## page was copied from ARM/Meeting/2011/20110825 ## page was copied from ARM/Meeting/2011/20110818 ## page was copied from ARM/Meeting/2011/20110811 ## page was copied from ARM/Meeting/2011/20110804 <> ||<>|| '''September 9th, 2011, 15:00 UTC''' in '''#ubuntu-meeting'''.<
> = Agenda = == Meeting Links == * Link to previous meeting * [[ARM/Meeting/2011/20110901]] * Link to next meeting * [[ARM/Meeting/2011/20110915]] == Action Items from last meeting == == Standing Items == * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-2.html * ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey) * Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati) * ARM Porting/FTBFS status ([[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]], janimo) * ARM Image Status ([[OliverGrawert|ogra]], [[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]]) * QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) * Linaro Updates (rsalveti) * Any Other Business = Meeting Outcome = {{{ [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started Thu Sep 8 15:00:15 2011 UTC. The chair is ogra_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [15:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110908 [15:00] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110908 [15:00] pfft [15:00] who is here ? [15:00] * ogra_ fears only GrueMaster and me [15:01] * rbasak is here [15:01] Zzzzz [15:01] heh [15:01] Daviey: ? [15:01] me to watch ogra_ chair another meeting! [15:01] * mrjazzcat lurks [15:02] well, lets make this a quick one then, many team members are traveling (plumbers) or on vacation [15:02] * cmagina waves [15:02] #topic action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: action items [15:02] there were none i could find on the wikipages [15:02] eirther michael didnt update that or we had none :) [15:02] * ogra_ just assumes the latter for now [15:03] #standing items [15:03] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html [15:03] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-2.html [15:04] hmm, there are two persia items [15:04] GrueMaster, any idea if he will work on them ? [15:05] Let me look at them. [15:05] hmm, i thought LTSP and NBD were assigned to me [15:05] Not seeing any for persia. [15:05] i wonder why they show up there [15:05] GrueMaster, on the beta-2 page [15:05] LUKS and LVM testing [15:06] anyway, that seems all wrong all over [15:06] Refresh or something. I already completed the LVM and LUKS testing. [15:06] [action] ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker [15:06] ACTION: ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker [15:06] BAH !!!!! [15:06] * ogra_ kicks chroimum [15:07] the url came out of the cache ... i'm on ubuntu-armel [15:07] I'm looking at the same links. You have the LTSP & NBD items. [15:07] sigh [15:07] yeah, that looks better, sorry, my browser tricked me [15:07] heh [15:08] and imho it all looks fine [15:08] * ogra_ moves on [15:08] I'm not sure what to do for SELinux. [15:08] #topic server status NCommander, Daviey === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: server status NCommander, Daviey [15:08] GrueMaster, given we generally treat it as a nice to have in ubuntu i think that could slip to P as long as apparmor is fine [15:08] * GrueMaster will come back to WI issues in QA section. [15:09] * rsalveti just noticed that the linaro related topic is not at the wiki [15:09] do we have anything for server status [15:09] rsalveti, feel free to add it :) just tell me when to reload [15:09] What needs doing for ARM server and how can I help? [15:09] rbasak: Mainly testing. [15:09] rbasak, well, the gusy caring for it seem to not be around, but generally we can need help with QA and the like [15:10] apart from testing is there anything else? [15:10] there are so many server apps ... [15:10] and while GrueMaster does an awesome job, he cant test all of it alone [15:10] ogra_: done [15:10] NCommand1r, anything from you to add for the server topic ? (since you are around) [15:11] doesnt look like [15:11] So to help with testing, I'll speak to GrueMaster about what I can do later shall I? [15:11] Or if not, who? [15:11] rbasak, well, generally we are all available in #ubuntu-arm in our awake hours [15:11] lets carry that to there after the meeting === lan3y is now known as Laney [15:12] OK [15:12] * ogra_ moves on [15:12] rbasak: Take a look at http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/u/gruemaster.html and feel free to pull any open WI (just let me know which). [15:12] #topic kernel status ppisati, cooloney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: kernel status ppisati, cooloney [15:12] hmm, neitrher of them is around [15:13] rsalveti, any intresting kernel bits on your side we should know about ? [15:13] * ogra_ saw someone is fiddling with sound stuff [15:13] It would appear that the USB SMP issue has been resolved. I am doing testing on the new kernel now. [15:13] gah! [15:13] Daviey, shoudl we re-visit ? [15:13] ogra_: sound should be sorted at the current omap 4 package [15:13] rsalveti, including userspace ? [15:13] ogra_: yeah, someone updated the alsa ucm configs [15:13] i think i read thats still missing [15:13] ogra_: will check what is needed to make it work later today [15:14] thanks, if you need anything on our side feel free to chase me down :) [15:14] ogra_: and I'm now just waiting the TI update on the SGX side [15:14] ogra_: It really needs to be NCommander and GrueMaster providing an update.. I'm empty ;( [15:14] Cool. Will keep an eye out for it on the next desktop image. === Guest98499 is now known as Zic [15:14] to see if we're still missing any related patch to make it work properly with latest kernel [15:14] yeah [15:15] ac100 kernel is still pending an update to the latest tree tip btw [15:15] (it carries the USB patch too, and apparently USB throughput went from 7M/s to over 20) [15:15] any more stuff for kernel ? [15:15] yup :-) [15:15] ogra_: nops [15:16] Daviey, GrueMaster will give a QA update, does that suffice ? NCommand1r is on vac. he would give updates i fear [15:16] #topic ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:16] ftbfs page looks good :) [15:17] nothing pressing [15:17] nops, lot of help from folks to get the ftbfs related bugs fixed [15:17] * ogra_ dug a bit into the vlc issues the last days ... that will be fixded once Qt is updated [15:17] ogra_, it's not complete ;) [15:18] doko, according to nokia it is fixed in the version we plan to pull [15:18] or is there anything required on the vlc side ? [15:18] rsalveti, did you tag gcc ICE's too? [15:19] doko: afaik, yes [15:19] will double check [15:19] anything else for ftbfs ? [15:19] rsalveti (and janimo): please open a gcc-4.x task for those too, and best attach the preprocessed source [15:20] doko: sure, fair enough [15:20] jani is on vacation [15:20] like nearly everyone in the arm team atm [15:20] interesting time to have vacations [15:20] before the release hehe :-) [15:20] well ... i'm not granting them, dont complain to me :) [15:20] * ogra_ moves on [15:20] sure, just saying :-) [15:21] #topic ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:21] failed today once again due to archive skew [15:21] (ubiquity was just building on armel when the images attempted to build) [15:21] yep, noticed. [15:21] generally they should be fine [15:21] ac100 has an issue with initrd size i hopefully have fixed now [15:21] * rsalveti hates launchpad search [15:22] oh, and ac100 is now semi official [15:22] we can blog about it etc [15:22] other than that, i'm a bit desparate with the mx5 images [15:22] while i can finish the livefs building, i dont have the HW and no clue what code we need to make it bootable [15:23] * GrueMaster wonders if they will happen this cycle. [15:23] GrueMaster, i wasnt aware that jani is off this week [15:23] that indeed puts us way behind === lynxman- is now known as lynxman [15:23] i would have needed him for finishing it [15:23] Well, we "should" have had them shortly after the rally. Just saying. [15:24] we didnt have the HW at any place where someone had time to work on it [15:25] it wont take more than one or two days to implement it ... effectively we only need to add the arch to the config [15:25] ogra_: what else is needed to publish images for imx53? [15:25] buit it will need plenty testbuilds which is time consuming [15:25] rsalveti, only the debian-cd bits and editing a config file for cdimage, we have the livefs builds ready [15:26] its just the post-processing for u-boot or whatever bootloader [15:26] hm, ok [15:26] mkimage calls etc [15:26] sounds like 1, 2 days of work [15:26] irts really trivial if i have the HW [15:26] less [15:27] ok [15:27] 1/2 day but 3 days for testbuilds etc [15:27] yeah... [15:27] which is mainly blocking due to archive skew [15:28] i usually fix more archive skew than i actually do anything on the images if i need to testbuild :P [15:28] anyway [15:28] thast all from me for images [15:28] anything else ? === noy_ is now known as noy [15:28] #topic QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh) [15:28] * ogra_ leans back [15:29] Still being bogged down by bug 806751. With it, I have to manually create a netboot image to get through install. [15:29] iSCSI working to a point. Now blocked by bug 838809 (as are all other archs). [15:29] AoE tested fine as remote disk. No information on how to setup for diskless boot. [15:29] hrm, where is the bugbot [15:29] * GrueMaster wakes bugbot. [15:30] ubottu: hello? [15:30] well, the first should be fixed if michael is back [15:30] Heh, sure. [15:30] * ogra_ just uses #ubuntu-arm's bugbot :) [15:31] i doubt we have any initrd support for AOE booting [15:31] so that should all be fine [15:31] Well, other than those, I am still steamrollering through the server test workitems. [15:31] Daviey, what else do you want from GrueMaster ? [15:32] Oh, I also ran into a curious issue with SD cards that are used only for bootloader/kernel. Seems that once they have been booted off of, they can not be removed from the system without the system going wonky. [15:33] I.e. you can't swap SD cards and expect to be able to read them. The kernel refuses to refresh the partition tables. [15:34] yeahm, thats a very weird behavior [15:34] and not easy to explain, did you talk to any bootloader guys (jcrigby, sakoman etc) ? [15:34] Not sure if it is a kernel issue or a u-boot issue. Kind of leaning to the u-boot, as I have seen this when doing netinstall over pxe, and only using SD for MLO/u-boot.bin. [15:34] Not yet. [15:35] would be intresting to know if it happens in the other case too [15:35] i.e. with root on SD [15:35] how do you copy the SD ? binary (dd) or do you format the vfat by hand etc [15:35] With root on SD it is bound to happen. Linux doesn't like swapping out the rootfs. [15:36] well, yeah for a comparison you would have to copy the rootfs too [15:36] Because of bug 806751, I have to manually format the SD. [15:36] ah, indeed [15:37] well, definitely worth filing a bug for ... even though i fear it wont be high prio [15:37] And the netboot images are so off as far as CHS goes, that I have to completely blast the SD and repartition/reformat from a different system. [15:37] ogra_: Really, want to look at automating the tests [15:37] I already have filed a bug on this. [15:37] Daviey, well, implement kvm or libvirt support in arm kernels [15:38] ogra_: GrueMaster has done a nice job of creating some complex test cases which we would find useful on tadional arches aswell. [15:38] seems our testsuites cant eat anything else [15:38] ogra_: But not much use, until ARM can be part of the automated testing infrastructure. [15:38] Daviey: I am more than wanting to automate them. Unfortunately, I have to do a ton of research for each test usually just to get them to work. [15:38] Daviey, right, buit due to missing kvm its hard to automate them [15:38] ogra_: No, using linvirt and kvm is the wrong approach :) [15:38] I agree with that. [15:39] i think we should put the automating on our plate for the P cycle and move that stuff to generic qemu [15:39] with a joined tream effort [15:39] *team [15:39] We need to make sure all of our server tests can run on raw systems as well as kvm. [15:39] ogra_: The same functionality needs to be created external to libvirt to support it for bare metal [15:39] GrueMaster, well, kvm is essential qemu with kernel support [15:40] so it should be possible to switch to plain qemu [15:40] ogra_: it requires collaboration between the arm team, server team and QA. [15:40] yes [15:40] Daviey, i think thats a good P target :) [15:40] :) [15:40] hello ubott2 and ubottu [15:40] :) [15:40] bug 12345 [15:40] hmm [15:40] * GrueMaster will add a spec for joint collaboration. [15:41] ogra_ / GrueMaster: we'll need to get our thinking caps on for UDS. [15:41] GrueMaster, hmm, that did come out differently than intended, but i wont complain [15:41] What about the discussion about having nova support instantiating metal? [15:41] Daviey, well, we have a wikipage to collect such stuff :) [15:42] anything else for QA ? [15:42] GrueMaster: I'm expecting QA to drive it, with you offering ARM guidance (and rbasak), with jamespage offering Jenkins help. [15:42] Sounds good. [15:42] I have nothing else. [15:42] * ogra_ moves [15:42] If we want openstack support then it needs to be discussed at this upcoming ODS doesn't it? [15:42] * Daviey dances [15:43] rbasak: in part, yes [15:43] #topic linaro (rsalveti) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: linaro (rsalveti) [15:43] rbasak, i think the basics are there already [15:43] updated list for 11.09 https://launchpad.net/linaro-ubuntu/+milestone/11.09 [15:43] NCommander worked on getting LXC working on arm [15:44] so openstack on top of that should not be to much work [15:44] we should be updating the linux-linaro packages at oneiric probably next week [15:44] great [15:44] and hopefully trying a FFe for libjeg-turbo [15:44] at least for universe [15:44] what do we have to expect from the upstream sync of u-boot ? [15:45] any possible issues [15:45] ogra_: we don't expect any major changes [15:45] good [15:45] just basically syncing our own modifications [15:45] rsalveti: Does the usb smp patch need to be applied to u-boot? [15:45] whats that android components for ubuntu ? [15:46] GrueMaster: not that I know [15:46] adb shell ? [15:46] ogra_: yup [15:46] cool [15:46] for u-boot, we may need a package update for blaze [15:46] PXE on more platforms interests me. [15:46] yeah [15:46] just saw sebastian posted some patches for fixes [15:47] how about multiarch ? any breakage we need to be prepared for ? [15:47] * GrueMaster would like to see omap first, then others (mx53, etc). [15:47] ogra_: not atm, just small bug fixes [15:47] good [15:47] for major changes we're just pushing to debian [15:47] to sync at P [15:47] thats a good idea [15:48] bug 827705 seems to be a linaro task, how is that going? [15:48] urgh [15:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-linaro/+bug/827705 [15:48] Launchpad bug 827705 in u-boot-linaro (Ubuntu) "PXE boot requests non-standard config filename" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827705 [15:48] * ogra_ hopes asac will hold a talk at UDS "what is star rating" :) [15:48] and we'll have gcc-linaro packages too, but not for oneiric === bdmurray_ is now known as bdmurray [15:49] that's all from my side [15:49] any comment for Daviey ? [15:49] let me check [15:49] seems lool alerady added a patch [15:50] I think that's fixed already [15:50] will check [15:50] yeah, likely slipped the papaerwork [15:50] I did, yes [15:51] doesnt sound like it would boot with that bug still in place [15:51] I sent it to upstream and to John; I think it's in? [15:51] I think so, will check with john [15:51] Shows as Fix Committed as of 8/18 [15:51] GrueMaster, not in ubuntu [15:52] but i think thats just an oversight [15:52] In u-boot-linaro. [15:52] http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=boot/u-boot-linaro-stable.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/Linaro-u-boot-2011.08 [15:52] yup, seems to be in [15:52] great, can someone close it [15:52] Daviey, you happy ? [15:52] 2011.08.6-0ubuntu2 [15:52] I can close it. [15:52] ubuntu is using the latest tag already [15:53] * ogra_ thought so [15:53] i wonder if we should just drop the upstream/downstream distinction for linaro packages that fully live in ubuntu anyway [15:53] What about the u-boot and u-boot (ubuntu) tags? Isn't that an old tree? [15:53] seems to add confusion [15:55] Ok. Marked them as invalid, and marked Linaro U-Boot & u-boot-linaro (ubuntu) as Fix Released. [15:55] greaqt [15:55] anything else ? [15:55] ogra_: over the mon [15:55] * ogra_ moves then [15:55] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [15:55] * ogra_ has nothing [15:55] anyone ? [15:56] sounds like not ... [15:56] going once [15:56] going twice [15:56] * GrueMaster remains silent. [15:56] sold to the man with the funny hat [15:56] #ednmeeting [15:56] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:56] Meeting ended Thu Sep 8 15:56:35 2011 UTC. [15:56] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-08-15.00.moin.txt }}} == Action Items == * ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker