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Agenda

  1. Introductions
  2. Team Reports

    1. [:ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education:Education Team]

    2. [:ArizonaTeam/Teams/Server:Server Team]

Log

This will be posted after the meeting. 

[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:34]     * johnc4510 greetings, is everyone ready for the meeting?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:42] <tyche>    _NoX_ is a Xerox copy, slightly stretched in various directions and only in black and white, to avoid being a direct copy.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:44] <tyche>    Yep
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:45] <enigmastrat>      ready
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:20] <paul928>  and I'm actually on time tonight
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:26]     * johnc4510 needs more spirit
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:28] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:39] <tyche>    READY, SIR!!!
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:43] <tyche>    That better?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:47] <johnc4510>        much
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:50] <johnc4510>        LOL
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:54] <jsonder>  let's go
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:54] <johnc4510>        ok
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:56] <tyche>    SIR, YES SIR
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:03]     * johnc4510 meeting is on
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:15] <johnc4510>        any new members to introduce?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:49] <johnc4510>        doesn't look like it
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:50] <tyche>    We could always introduce _NoX_'s pale copy
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:53] <johnc4510>        so
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:59] <johnc4510>        team this is _NoX_
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:02] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:08] <johnc4510>        anyway
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:13] <johnc4510>        announcements
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:28]     * johnc4510 I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:30] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:38] <johnc4510>        lots of family and friends
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:42] <johnc4510>        and food
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:12] <johnc4510>        ok, lets talk about the main server page
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:14] <johnc4510>        please
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:29] <johnc4510>        enigmastrat: have you made any revisions yet?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:36] <enigmastrat>      no... :(
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:47] <johnc4510>        kk
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:48] <enigmastrat>      I hosted thanksgiving this year
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:54] <johnc4510>        http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:02] <johnc4510>        i put what we had up on the server
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:04] <johnc4510>        and
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:12] <johnc4510>        did some page revision
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:16] <johnc4510>        and add the links
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:33] <johnc4510>        so everyone take a couple of minutes to look over
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:47] <johnc4510>        then we can discuss what your thoughts are
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:48] <enigmastrat>      I'm glad you could decode my code
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:54] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:10] <johnc4510>        i just added things
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:15] <johnc4510>        not too hard
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:42] <mindrape> what's all this?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:51] <johnc4510>        mindrape: team meeting
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:00] <enigmastrat>      I'll be changing it to 1000 wide and modifying the right border
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:16] <johnc4510>        mindrape: you are new, so we'd like you to introduce yourself please
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:27] <johnc4510>        just a couple of lines    basics
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:33] <mindrape> My name is mindrape...  :::waves:::
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:35] <johnc4510>        enigmastrat: cool
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:40]     * tyche waves back
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:41]     * johnc4510 waves back
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:06] <johnc4510>        mindrape: how long have you been using Ubuntu?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:17] <mindrape> I've been a linux user for over 10 years... Ubuntu for the past 2-ish years
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:23] <johnc4510>        nice
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:25] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:37] <enigmastrat>      what part of az you from?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:43] <mindrape> I'm near downtown Phoenix.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:49] <johnc4510>        excellent
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:55] <mindrape> about 10-15 to the airport depending on traffic.  :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:56] <johnc4510>        tyche: he's for you
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:14] <tyche>    I see that.  Welcome mindrape
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:16] <johnc4510>        mindrape: welcome to the team
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:19] <enigmastrat>      we've got this valley covered
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:24] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:40] <johnc4510>        enigmastrat: what are you thoughts about what i added?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:45] <mindrape> nice... I also work in North Phoenix and am often in Ahwatukee and the Easy Valley (Mesa/Gilbert/Queen Creek) visiting family and friends.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:53] <johnc4510>        and changed
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:12] <johnc4510>        mindrape: cool
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:31] <enigmastrat>      so... content is just fine
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:38] <johnc4510>        mindrape: our new server is what we are discussing: http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:54] <johnc4510>        enigmastrat: any ideas on further content?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:20] <enigmastrat>      hmmm... I'm not the content go to guy, but any and all info is good
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:38] <johnc4510>        kk
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[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:57] <johnc4510>        i was wondering if we should add some web buttons
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:02] <tyche>    johnc4510: I know we aren't on track for being a recognized Team, yet, but what else do we need to do?  Should that be listed on the page?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:13] <johnc4510>        like: spread firefox and thunderbird
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:15] <johnc4510>        etc
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:34] <enigmastrat>      ahh
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:37] <johnc4510>        tyche: not on that page
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:40] <johnc4510>        but
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:47] <enigmastrat>      I just deleted my question because you answered it
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:54] <enigmastrat>      that would be great
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:13:03] <johnc4510>        i had already planned to start bringing the wiki up to date this next wk
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:13:41] <tyche>    I just thought that it would be a bit of a reminder to the team of where we are, and where we need to go.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:10] <johnc4510>        kk, I'm not against it
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:30] <tyche>    After all, web pages aren't cast in concrete.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:41] <enigmastrat>      I guess it comes down to what we want the purpose of this page to be
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:46] <tyche>    (Though I've seen some that should be sunk with concrete.  Hee hee)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:52] <johnc4510>        how about once i get the wiki page straightened out we link to it from the server page?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:56] <enigmastrat>      it can point to the wiki for team info
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:03] <tyche>    I see it as an introduction to the Team.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:37] <johnc4510>        and with the link an explanation of the purpose of team approval
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:38] <johnc4510>        ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:53] <tyche>    Yea, that would be good, too
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:19] <johnc4510>        it would be like another paragraph below what we have, with a link
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:20] <johnc4510>        ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:42] <tyche>    Paragraph, or just lines with check boxes showing what's done.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:55] <johnc4510>        kk, that's a thought too
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:56] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:58] <johnc4510>        ty
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:17:03] <tyche>    NP
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:17:33] <johnc4510>        tyche: what are your thoughts about the web buttons i mentioned above?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:17:52] <johnc4510>        there are all kinds of them out there
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:16] <johnc4510>        gnome, firefox, thunderbird, etc
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:22] <johnc4510>        xfce
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:22] <enigmastrat>      apache
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:26] <johnc4510>        sure
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:38] <tyche>    (Why do I get the feeling that I just got myself another job?  LOL)  That's not bad, either.  Also OO.o.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:54] <johnc4510>        nope on the extra work
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:55] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:18] <johnc4510>        slofgren or myself can handle that
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:27] <tyche>    Like, "Try it, you'll like it!"
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:28] <mindrape> lol... why do I feel this girl I made out with for 3 hours last night isn't returning my calls and hates me?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:48] <tyche>    mindrape: techique
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:54] <tyche>    Hee hee
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:14] <mindrape> seriously... my game is seriously lacking.  I can easily get a first, second, and third date... hitting the nani just is not in my bag of tricks.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:22] <johnc4510>        http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:35] <johnc4510>        they have a few there to give you an idea
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:58] <johnc4510>        image links
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:21] <enigmastrat>      those are good to have
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:23] <johnc4510>        they give the page some peezaz i think
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:27] <tyche>    Image links are good.  You need to keep the graphics the same size, relative to eachother.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:42] <johnc4510>        we can gimp them
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:53] <tyche>    Yep
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:13] <enigmastrat>      I especially want the Ohio Linuxfest on our page
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:15] <tyche>    If you're going that route, you could add the Ubuntu one(s) too.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:49] <tyche>    I see Ohio is behind the times. (Oh, shoot!  Vorian isn't in channel tonight.  hee hee)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:51] <johnc4510>        enigmastrat: you and me both, i've had some ideas on an AZ LinuxFest for the future :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:23:05] <johnc4510>        tyche: :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:23:50] <johnc4510>        kk, any other ideas
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:23:51] <johnc4510>        ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:24:12] <enigmastrat>      I think we're on the right track
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:24:32] <johnc4510>        kk, then on to the ed team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:24:37] <johnc4510>        now
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:13] <johnc4510>        tyche and I didn't do anything this wk, because we about killed ourselves last wk getting some of it up to date
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:17] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:20] <johnc4510>        but
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:40] <johnc4510>        we still need to do something about the email support we discussed
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:55] <johnc4510>        we had talked about gmail
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:56] <johnc4510>        and
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:01] <johnc4510>        the team mailing list
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:17] <tyche>    johnc4510: How do other teams handle it?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:25] <johnc4510>        hmmmm
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:45] <johnc4510>        we should check out ohio, they have a support deal going
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:57] <johnc4510>        let me look for the page real quick
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:00] <tyche>    maybe some of the others, too.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:17] <enigmastrat>      man, you and I are on the same wavelength tonight john
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:35] <jsonder>  not reinventing the whell sounds good
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:44] <tyche>    You bet
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:50] <johnc4510>        http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/locosupport/add
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:10] <tyche>    They've got a call back system
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:36] <johnc4510>        i just invited vorian
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:39] <johnc4510>        to channel
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[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:03] <johnc4510>        hey hey
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:06] <vorian>   hello
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:07] <vorian>   :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:21] <johnc4510>        vorian: how does your team handle the support
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:24] <johnc4510>        email wise
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:33] <vorian>   via mailing list
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:36] <johnc4510>        i know you use phone support
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:00] <johnc4510>        so this:http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/locosupport/add is tied into team mail list?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:01] <vorian>   no one ever submits request for help, so it's kind of hard to know really :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:10] <johnc4510>        ah
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:30] <vorian>   we did have a team set up to channel the requests
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:56] <johnc4510>        so, why no requests do you think?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:01] <vorian>   but with a lack of support requests, the idea has really lost focus
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:10] <vorian>   hmm
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:17] <tyche>    How about other teams?  Do they have the same lack of requests?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:19] <johnc4510>        exposure?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:28] <vorian>   at the end of the day, people don't want to be blabbing on the phone
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:37] <johnc4510>        ah
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:47] <vorian>   tyche: jacob from our team wrote that module for our site
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:48] <enigmastrat>      what if you speak in an indian accent?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:53] <johnc4510>        would straight email be better vorian ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:01] <vorian>   then that's extra $$ enigmastrat
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:10] <vorian>   yeah, mailing list
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:12] <vorian>   irc
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:12] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:13] <tyche>    johnc4510: We may be over-working this then.  Maybe what we need to do is just direct them to the forums.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:30] <johnc4510>        or use it for in house direction
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:35] <johnc4510>        in team that is
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:01] <johnc4510>        vorian: does KY have a support arm of their team? if you know
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:22] <vorian>   no idea
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:24] <vorian>   sorry
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:36] <johnc4510>        kk ty for your knowledge :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:48] <tyche>    Yes, thanks for your help
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:20]     * johnc4510 ok, well i see nothing wrong with providing some team support for new members with this do you?
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[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:54] <johnc4510>        but maybe pull back a bit on the original idea
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:55] <johnc4510>        ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:57] <johnc4510>        tyche: ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:15] <tyche>    Team members can always jump on IRC and get us.  It was outsiders that I was originally thinking about.  But it looks like I was looking for something that isn't there.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:47] <johnc4510>        maybe, but let's not scrap it all just yet
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:53] <paul928>  outsiders might have a problem finding the page
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:54] <johnc4510>        do some thinking on it maybe
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:00] <johnc4510>        paul928: true
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:12] <tyche>    Nope.  But definitely think about it.  We could put up a link to the Forum main page.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:18] <johnc4510>        that's why I asked if exposure was a problem
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:41] <johnc4510>        i wonder if ohio linked it on the forum page with a sticky
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:46] <paul928>  just googled ubuntu arizona, doesn't show the page yet
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:54] <johnc4510>        we get a lot of lookers on that site
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:27] <johnc4510>        paul928: probably not until we set the domain name to azloco like we want
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] <jsonder>  ArizonaTeam - Ubuntu Wiki
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] <jsonder>  They will assist you in registering at launchpad, to the ubuntu-us-az ... We have completed our first goal of getting the Ubuntu-Arizona LoCo Team up and ...
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] <jsonder>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam - 18k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] <paul928>  the server site/
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:51] <jsonder>  it's there
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:54] <tyche>    We need to let people know that they're not alone, but maybe the forums is the best place to send them.  More people available, and more expertise.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:00] <jsonder>  ubuntu arizona
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:18] <johnc4510>        jsonder: yes, i was meaning we should add the support portion of the ed team stuff
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:26] <paul928>  but not the server site
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:34] <jsonder>  I'll take calls fron the Tucson area
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:45] <johnc4510>        jsonder: kk
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:54] <johnc4510>        ty
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:20] <johnc4510>        ok, lets all think about this for another wk, and see what comes to mind then OK?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:46] <johnc4510>        paul928: yes we can link it on the server site too if we want
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:47] <tyche>    OK
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:53] <jsonder>  I generally get ~2 call per monthh about linux from the Green Valley guys
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:40:00] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:40:27] <johnc4510>        kk, does anyone have anything else they want to bring up ??
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:40:59] <jsonder>  memory is cheap; I got 2 gig for my notebook for under $60 from Crucial
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:04] <johnc4510>        k, enigmastrat let me know when you've got any revisions for the server
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:14] <enigmastrat>      ok
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:18]     * johnc4510 meeting over and thanks folks
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:20] <johnc4510>        !!
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:22] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:48] <jsonder>  johnc4510, have we had calls for help?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:02] <johnc4510>        no
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:16] <johnc4510>        we really haven't started it yet
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:47] <johnc4510>        these are just opening dicussions now that we have the ed team pages started
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:51] <jsonder>  I've tried to talk people thru installlation questions
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:17] <jsonder>  I'll do the installation on a "spare" desktop
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:23] Quit       enigmastrat has left this server ("Ex-Chat").
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:26] <johnc4510>        jsonder: i put a good link to installing on the main ed team page
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:38] <johnc4510>        check it out
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:43] <johnc4510>        please
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:43] <jsonder>  OK
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:44:52] <johnc4510>        http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu_gutsy_gibbon
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:44:56] <jsonder>  that assumes that ubuntu is already installed
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:04] <johnc4510>        screenshots and everything
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:15] <johnc4510>        not the upgrade one
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:19] <johnc4510>        the install one
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:34] <jsonder>  whoopsie: I was here:  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:45] <johnc4510>        ah
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:46] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:52] <johnc4510>        that's the upgrade one
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:46:54] <jsonder>  Now is this from the wiki?  The web page seems to be all links, which is good
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:01] <johnc4510>        jsonder: look around at what tyche and i did to the ed team page when you get a chance. give us some ideas
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:10] <johnc4510>        jsonder: no
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:12] <jsonder>  OK
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:33] <johnc4510>        we used some already in place things where they were better
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:48:29] <johnc4510>        and if they saved us some time also
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:49:29] <jsonder>  I'm bloody lost, as usual.  The wiki az page I can get to; is this where you changed links ?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:02] <johnc4510>        no
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:22] <johnc4510>        here:http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:23] <jsonder>  Arg!
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:49] <jsonder>  OK
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:51:02] <tyche>    Two different jobs, jsonder.  The link johnc4510 just gave you is the Team Server page.  the one we were talking about that johnc4510 and I changed was the Edu page.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:51:13] <johnc4510>        we did a lot of changes also to the ed team pages here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:51:37] <johnc4510>        added a bunch of sub pages to it
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:18] <paul928>  johnc4510-why the strange url...http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com//
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:37] <tyche>    Because we aren't DNS'ed yet
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:38] <johnc4510>        paul928: it's just a temp set up
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:55] <johnc4510>        until domain name is set up
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:01] <johnc4510>        azloco.org
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:07] <johnc4510>        is what it will be
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:38] <jsonder>  OK, but, when I go there, I get linked to the wiki for ed, etc.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:41] <paul928>  just checked....ubuntuaz.com.org.net,etc are all available
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:08] <vorian>   how about postmyplates.com?
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:22] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:37] <johnc4510>        jsonder: i guess i'm not understanding then
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:40] <johnc4510>        :(
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:42] <johnc4510>        sorry
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:49] <tyche>    vorian: What plates?  You in the counterfitting business?? LOL
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:55] <vorian>   lol
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:57] <johnc4510>        we haven't put in any links for support yet
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:04] <vorian>   no
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:10] <johnc4510>        jsonder: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:21] <jsonder>  The links from the selfip web page go to the az wiki pages
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:30] <johnc4510>        yes
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:38] <jsonder>  we agree
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:49] <johnc4510>        so the server page ties into the wiki pages
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:57] <johnc4510>        kk
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:59] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:11] <jsonder>  motorcycles are easier
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:13] <johnc4510>        IRC is sometimes confussing:)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:15] <johnc4510>        yes
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:17] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:28] <jsonder>  fussing?  OK
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:34] <johnc4510>        sure
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:43] <johnc4510>        we like fussing
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:07] <jsonder>  I'll peak and send an e-mail to both of you once I've actually had time to look at things.
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:13] <tyche>    And johnc4510 is the fussiest here.  Hee hee
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:29] <johnc4510>        jsonder: great
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:32] <johnc4510>        :)
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:37] <jsonder>  good night
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:42] <johnc4510>        night
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:46] <johnc4510>        and ty
[Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:58:02] Quit       vorian has left this server.

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