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 {{{[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:22] * johnc4510-laptop asks who is here for meeting?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:22] <Wolf_45> I usually just save the scrap from my woodworking projects and use that. I tend to have a "lot" of scrap! "Oooops, cut that one a half inch too short..."
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:22] <xHans> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:37] <Wolf_45> +1
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:59:29] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: word azteech slofgren soldats meeting is starting
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:00:50] <johnc4510-laptop> hmmm, not very many around. we'll wait a few if that's ok??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:18] <Wolf_45> I'm not going anywhere - at least, not unless there's a big *boom*!
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:31] <johnc4510-laptop> right, same could happen here
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:42] <johnc4510-laptop> you getting any rain
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:55] <johnc4510-laptop> had a good one on the west side
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:03:10] <Wolf_45> Mid-town never gets any rain.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:03:45] <johnc4510-laptop> west side has had a great monsoon this yr. for a change
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:27] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: any Free Software classes at unis or CCs in Tucson?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:43] <Wolf_45> we got maybe a dozen little drops when I was taking the trash out earlier - most of those found my bald-spot though!
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:47] <johnc4510-laptop> i'd have to check not sure
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:54] <johnc4510-laptop> pima should have some
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:13] <johnc4510-laptop> i know a prof there that is into linux
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:23] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: would you check into it?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:27] <johnc4510-laptop> sure
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:35] <xHans> we need to promote the classes :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:38] <xHans> danke
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:39] <kennymc0> ok im here sorry that im late
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:45] Away You are no longer marked as being away.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:49] <Wolf_45> which campus, johnc4510-laptop?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:49] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: evening
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:55] <xHans> same question for other places in the state
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:56] <johnc4510-laptop> west
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:28] <johnc4510-laptop> they host the tfug meetings so they have wifi
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:33] <johnc4510-laptop> or use to
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:51] <Wolf_45> that'd be cool, I'd even look into taking some. :-)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:52] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: thx for showing, not many here
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:56] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:59] <kennymc0> np
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:08] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: tyche had a cat emergency
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:09] <kennymc0> family was over so i was a little late
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:14] <slofgren> howdy
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:15] * xHans rouses the rabble.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:18] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:20] <johnc4510-laptop> !!
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:23] <slofgren> haha
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:27] <slofgren> finally able
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:30] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: how's the wife
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:36] <slofgren> ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:42] <Wolf_45> Hey kennymc0 , hi slofgren
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:44] <slofgren> not doing any better
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:45] <johnc4510-laptop> oh good, i was concerned
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:50] <johnc4510-laptop> oh
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:54] <johnc4510-laptop> :/
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:54] <xHans> slofgren: Free Software classes in Prescott or Flagstaff?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:54] <slofgren> yeah
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:03] <slofgren> ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:09] <slofgren> xHans: ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:16] <johnc4510-laptop> are there any at the CC
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:17] <xHans> slofgren: asking if you know of any :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:27] <slofgren> I don't know of any
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:29] * xHans wishes Mrs. slofgren well.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:35] <slofgren> I live in Chino out in the sticks
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:43] <slofgren> xHans: thanks
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:01] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, since there are so few tonight lets keep it informal
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:03] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:14] <kennymc0> sounds like a plan
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:26] <slofgren> Mrs. slofgren says thank you
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:29] <slofgren> ;)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:33] Join azteech1 has joined this channel (n=stevan@0-1pool121-251.nas9.tucson1.az.us.da.qwest.net).
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:41] <johnc4510-laptop> so, xHans along with the list has picked a conference name
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:44] <johnc4510-laptop> i think
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:47] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:59] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: ablecon<-----is that right
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:10] <azteech1> okay, will see how long I last ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:15] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:17] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:20] <azteech1> see my twin is here ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:23] <johnc4510-laptop> yes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:25] <johnc4510-laptop> ghost
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:28] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: ableconf
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:30] <azteech1> yep
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:38] <johnc4510-laptop> acronym for ??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:45] <Wolf_45> Hi azteech1
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:54] <slofgren> ablecon...nice
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:56] <xHans> able+con becomes a positive negative :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:09] <johnc4510-laptop> all about linux enpowerment??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:11] <xHans> Arizona Business Liberty Expo
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:15] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:16] <johnc4510-laptop> nice
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:18] <azteech1> darn az storms
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:33] <xHans> or Arizona Business Liberty Experience, but tyche isn't here to get credit for that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:35] <slofgren> azteech1: fo shizz
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:41] <azteech1> wolf_45 evening ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:43] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:04] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: can i ask about the wiki page for conference and the calendar
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:05] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:11] <xHans> slofgren: yeah, I figure we can do lots with that, e.g.: enABLE, sustainABLE, capABLE, etc.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:13] <slofgren> oops
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:16] * slofgren hides
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:20] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:27] <slofgren> maybe this week
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:27] <azteech1> slofgren: evening
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:31] <slofgren> azteech1: hi
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:33] <johnc4510-laptop> it's xHans you have to hide from
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:49] <slofgren> mayb eit would be best for someone else to help get it running
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:54] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: we want to put the wiki on the ableconf domain, but wiki.ableconf.tld could be anywhere
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:02] <slofgren> I will be out of tow half on next week
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:08] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: read the email I haven't yet sent :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:09] <slofgren> town
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:14] <johnc4510-laptop> lol k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:39] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: who could set it up do you think??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:42] <slofgren> I am temp on one of those split keyboards sop my typing is even worse
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:48] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:53] * slofgren looks over at xHans
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:59] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:02] <johnc4510-laptop> or kennymc0 ??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:10] <slofgren> yeah
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:13] <slofgren> I dunno
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:18] <johnc4510-laptop> me either
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:20] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: ping
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:25] <slofgren> work is killing me plus all the traveling
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:30] <johnc4510-laptop> sure
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:37] <kennymc0> sorry long weekend fell asleep there for a sec
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:38] <kennymc0> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:42] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: mail is in the ether
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:43] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:47] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: kk
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:03] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: did you install what was needed?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:14] <johnc4510-laptop> does it just need configuring?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:25] <slofgren> well...I worked on the wiki then uninstalled it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:29] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:30] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:32] <slofgren> I ran into some issues
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:43] * xHans hands slofgren a subscription.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:49] <slofgren> it is not clear instructions
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:57] <slofgren> haha
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:57] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: slofgren was installing moinmoin and ran into some problems
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:13] <johnc4510-laptop> you ever install and configured moinmoin??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:14] <slofgren> plus there are some security concerns if not installed correctly
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:23] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: on every email :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:35] <johnc4510-laptop> you want to do this one??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:35] Quit azteech has left this server (Connection timed out).
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:37] <slofgren> xHans: lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:02] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: let's see if we get a bite on the email I just sent
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:06] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:16] <johnc4510-laptop> well, the space is there
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:20] <johnc4510-laptop> if needed
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:56] <xHans> ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:58] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, xHans i wanted to talk to you about one of the topics i'm interested in
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:06] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: shoot
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:09] <johnc4510-laptop> Community
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:13] <xHans> or add it to the topic thread
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:13] <johnc4510-laptop> and support
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:27] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: community is one of the tracks I'm going to push for
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:40] <johnc4510-laptop> i'd like to give that talk if possible :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:49] <johnc4510-laptop> and you think i'd be ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:15] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: I want a couple of talks on that, so that would be awesome if you did one
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:23] <johnc4510-laptop> kk,
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:34] <johnc4510-laptop> it would be something i'm interested in
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:41] <johnc4510-laptop> and could handle i think
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:43] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:50] <kennymc0> of course you could handle it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:59] <kennymc0> if you can handle tyche you can handle anything
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:00] <kennymc0> ROFL
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:05] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:05] <xHans> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:51] <xHans> . social and community building
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:21:07] <xHans> I did forget support
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:21:54] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: all three mesh, and i would love to hype up the coming together of the state user groups
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:22:28] <johnc4510-laptop> try to bring everyone together
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:23:05] <johnc4510-laptop> i have some drupal experience too, in answer to your email
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:01] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: have you seen the suggested tracks for the conference?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:09] <kennymc0> not yet
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:19] <johnc4510-laptop> have you joined the mailing list?/
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:38] <kennymc0> i tried once but i screwed up somehow and it was on my way out to work so i didnt get a chance to try it again
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:43] * johnc4510-laptop hits kennymc0 with 2x4 hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:45] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:20] * kennymc0 takes the blow from the 2x4 and says "thank you sir may i have another"
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:24] <kennymc0> ROFLMAOPMP
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:34] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yeah, most of us have used drupal
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:34] <johnc4510-laptop> just send a blank email to the subscribe addy with "subscribe" as the subject
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:45] <kennymc0> ah that was the problem
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:53] <kennymc0> what was the addy again?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:58] <johnc4510-laptop> hang on
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:08] <kennymc0> what am i hanging on to?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:13] <kennymc0> my keyboard?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:18] <xHans> borg+subscribe@stilyagin.com, I think
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:32] <azteech1> not familiar with it ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:42] <azteech1> drupal, that is ..
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:45] <johnc4510-laptop> mailto:borg+subscribe@stilyagin.com
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:05] <xHans> azteech1: it's an easy to use web content mgt system
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:24] * johnc4510-laptop encourages all the members to subscribe to the mail list
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:24] <kennymc0> ok hopefully that worked
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:37] <xHans> kennymc0: see my previous mail to the list on how to read previous mails to the list :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:44] <xHans> or ask johnc4510-laptop for how to do that
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:53] <kennymc0> ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:53] <azteech1> ah, something I need to look into ... since I do play with web design for a company .... from time to time ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:58] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll forward my instructions on that to kennymc0
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:28:03] <kennymc0> kk thx
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:28:35] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: sent
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:28:42] <xHans> azteech1: look at the most recent version rather than the one that's in whatever distro you use
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:26] <azteech1> xHans: am on 8.04
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:31] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: we still need to work on the prescott demo when you get some free time later
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:35] <johnc4510-laptop> no hurry
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:41] <kennymc0> ok i think i just confirmed the subscription
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:56] <xHans> kennymc0: yes, you did
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:30:09] <kennymc0> cool
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:30:30] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:30:36] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:15] <azteech1> will subscribe after this storm is over ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:24] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: i'm going to MO from aug.14th - sept.4th, but will be around everyday here
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:31] <johnc4510-laptop> azteech1: thx
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:37] <azteech1> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:45] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: sounds like fun
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:53] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: nope
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:54] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:06] <kennymc0> ah you're just saying that because it's true
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:07] <kennymc0> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:11] <johnc4510-laptop> hot, humid, in laws etc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:20] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:44] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: you have any announcements??
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:17] * johnc4510-laptop thinks for sure he will have at least the open office class announcement hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:32] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yup :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:40] <xHans> PLUG-devel is Thursday. http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/506
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:48] <xHans> I don't know what the topic will be.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:15] <xHans> As johnc4510-laptop already mentioned, the Free Software conference is now named ABLE Conf. It's Saturday, 2008Sep20 at UAT. We'll be looking for more volunteers starting sometime this week.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:26] <xHans> We need to fill the online OpenOffice.org class through MCC. Any suggestions on
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:26] <xHans> how to promote it? Any contacts for marketing the class?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:44] <johnc4510-laptop> gutsy geeks
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:00] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yup, still waiting to hear back from Michael
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:06] <johnc4510-laptop> i can blog it if that will help
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:15] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: that would be great
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:25] <johnc4510-laptop> link to info please?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:28] <xHans> http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/BPC110.html
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:29] <johnc4510-laptop> i can put it on the tfug mailing list too
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:35] <xHans> excellent
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:36] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, thx
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:37:44] <xHans> it's a great opportunity to get an OOo class in, so we need to fill it. failing to fill it will likely mean it'll be years before we can try it again
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:37:53] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:09] <xHans> maybe ask on the TFUG list if anyone knows of companies using OOo internally
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:15] * xHans will do that on PLUG.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:16] <johnc4510-laptop> not sure what other ways i can advertise it
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[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:23] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:48] <xHans> ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:58] <johnc4510-laptop> storm must be hitting soldats part of town
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:00] <johnc4510-laptop> it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:03] <xHans> I'm trying the KJZZ events calendar
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:09] <johnc4510-laptop> it's all around us
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:12] <xHans> need to find other such resources as well
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:17] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:42] <xHans> Aside from my shell scripting class we should soon have listings of lots more Free Software classes for the fall semester. There will be posts to PLUG discuss a
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:42] <xHans> nd the PLUG web site in the near future. Classes at least at MCC, EMCC, PVCC and
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:42] <xHans> SCC.
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:05] <xHans> just got info on PVCC this weekend
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:09] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:18] <xHans> if anyone has info on classes elsewhere in the state please let me know
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:20] <johnc4510-laptop> online classes?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:29] <xHans> most are not online classes
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:32] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:32] <azteech1> can name at least one company that is using OOo internally .....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:43] <johnc4510-laptop> name it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:45] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:47] <xHans> azteech1: in US-AZ?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:59] <azteech1> Yep .... my company ....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:14] <xHans> azteech1: cool
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:18] <azteech1> Pool Water Products ....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:29] <xHans> any chance on anybody needing an OOo class?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:37] <johnc4510-laptop> this is bad form but...this song has the best guitar solo ever done
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:41] * johnc4510-laptop np: Uriah Heep - Salisbury - Salisbury (MP3/16:01)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:52] <azteech1> 19 branches, plus corporate ... use it, and lots of open source ... including pidgin .....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:57] * johnc4510-laptop chastises himself
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:58] * xHans is listening to a bagpipe solo :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:03] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:10] <johnc4510-laptop> squak
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:11] <xHans> azteech1: most awesome
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:14] <azteech1> Unfortunately, nope, all trained up xHans ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:36] <xHans> BTW, that's another track for ABLEconf, US-AZ companies that use Free Software
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:46] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:51] <azteech1> lol johnc4510-laptop ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:52] <xHans> azteech1: you're in Tucson?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:14] <johnc4510-laptop> yes he is
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:40] <azteech1> Yep
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:40] <xHans> azteech1: if you're ever going to be in Phoenix on the 2nd Tuesday of the month or the 4th Tuesday of the month let me know ;-)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:40] <azteech1> and two branches in Phx .....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:56] <azteech1> I will do so, xhans ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:44:45] <xHans> and feel free to point those at the Phx offices at PLUG :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:11] <johnc4510-laptop> azteech1: yes, plug them in please :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:14] <johnc4510-laptop> boooo
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:19] <kennymc0> I had a friend that was trying to get his office to switch to OOo when the contract for office had to be renewed
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:29] <azteech1> Hee Hee, talk up open source all I can to them, but shall keep plugging away at them ...... no pun intended ....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:43] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:46] <kennymc0> he works for a lab that is part of that whole banner health thing so that would have probably been a big deal
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:51] <xHans> bad puns are OK, keeps tyche's attention :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:57] <kennymc0> too bad they didnt agree with him
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:46:04] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:46:40] <xHans> banner health was looking for someone with GNU/Linux experience several years ago
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:22] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: are we going to record and podcast any of the talks at the conference
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:43] <johnc4510-laptop> that's a big undertaking
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:48] <johnc4510-laptop> if we are
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:51] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: that would be awesome, but I'm not counting on it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:56] <johnc4510-laptop> right
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:05] <xHans> yeah, tons of work, which is why I won't count on it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:11] * johnc4510-laptop nods
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:18] <johnc4510-laptop> was just thinking out loud
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:26] * xHans will likely record some of them in super-slowmotion on his new camera, though :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:33] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:51] <xHans> at high slow speed oncoming traffic on the freeway isn't moving
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:00] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:21] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, any other items to discuss? xHans or anybody
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:22] <kennymc0> it would be cool to try to record the talks at the conference
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:55] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: it would, but with several talks going at once, i'm not sure how we could pull that off
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:13] <johnc4510-laptop> maybe we could pick a few to highlight
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:15] <azteech1> well, someone get a cam set up, record and post them at later date ....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:17] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: I'm fresh out
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:35] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: ok, thx a bunch
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:37] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:53] <xHans> I figure much of the conference will be ad hoc
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:59] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:05] <xHans> that's fine the first time we do it
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:18] <johnc4510-laptop> i plan on hoc'ing up big ones if i speak
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:20] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:25] <johnc4510-laptop> at least before hand
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:28] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:30] <xHans> but I want to make sure the outward facing ( non-geek ) stuff is well organized
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:39] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:40] <azteech1> ewwwwwwww .... TMI
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:48] <Thugal> we gonna have a projector for the talks?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:58] <Thugal> something like that?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:05] <xHans> BTW, there's a nice pub not too far from UAT for the post-conf party...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:06] <johnc4510-laptop> i think the tech talks and people will fall in line easier
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:17] <johnc4510-laptop> Thugal: i believe so
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:20] <xHans> Thugal: yeah, we need to make sure we have projectors for each room *and* spares
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:34] <kennymc0> where is UAT again?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:40] * johnc4510-laptop plays air guitar to the max
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:47] <xHans> kennymc0: 48th St and Baseline
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:55] <kennymc0> ok
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:04] <johnc4510-laptop> http://www.uat.edu/
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:13] <xHans> it's a good location for those coming up from the south
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:24] <azteech1> yeah, agreed ....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:33] <azteech1> at least I know where Baseline is ... hehe ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:34] * johnc4510-laptop nods
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:51] <xHans> azteech1: at the bottom of the key where the basket is
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:59] <Wolf_45> wait, wait. wouldn't people fall in line a lot easier if you pub first, *then* conf?
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:21] <johnc4510-laptop> lol, they'd never leave the pub
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:25] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:30] * xHans == johnc4510-laptop
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:45] <xHans> besides, we'll make the last task be "cd /pub"
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:58] <johnc4510-laptop> ah nice
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:02] <azteech1> and we don't want any public jaywalkers .... stopped for public intox ....
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:11] <azteech1> not a way to make headlines ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:32] <johnc4510-laptop> no, especially since i have to drive back to tucson
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:38] <Wolf_45> well, yeah. they probably couldn't walk a straight line, let alone fall "in line". heehee
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:38] <johnc4510-laptop> unless i stay overnight
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:47] <azteech1> yep, agreed ...
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:56:04] <Thugal> beer = new beer(); beer.drink("glug glug");
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:56:28] <kennymc0> lol
[Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:56:29] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, meeting adjourned }}}

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Agenda

  1. Introductions
  2. Announcements
  3. TBA
  4. TBA
  5. TBA
  6. Agenda for next week

Log

  • {{{[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:22] * johnc4510-laptop asks who is here for meeting?

[Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:22] <Wolf_45> I usually just save the scrap from my woodworking projects and use that. I tend to have a "lot" of scrap! "Oooops, cut that one a half inch too short..." [Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:22] <xHans> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:58:37] <Wolf_45> +1 [Sun Aug 3 2008] [20:59:29] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: word azteech slofgren soldats meeting is starting [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:00:50] <johnc4510-laptop> hmmm, not very many around. we'll wait a few if that's ok?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:18] <Wolf_45> I'm not going anywhere - at least, not unless there's a big *boom*! [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:31] <johnc4510-laptop> right, same could happen here [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:42] <johnc4510-laptop> you getting any rain [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:02:55] <johnc4510-laptop> had a good one on the west side [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:03:10] <Wolf_45> Mid-town never gets any rain. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:03:45] <johnc4510-laptop> west side has had a great monsoon this yr. for a change [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:27] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: any Free Software classes at unis or CCs in Tucson? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:43] <Wolf_45> we got maybe a dozen little drops when I was taking the trash out earlier - most of those found my bald-spot though! [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:47] <johnc4510-laptop> i'd have to check not sure [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:04:54] <johnc4510-laptop> pima should have some [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:13] <johnc4510-laptop> i know a prof there that is into linux [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:23] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: would you check into it? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:27] <johnc4510-laptop> sure [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:35] <xHans> we need to promote the classes Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:38] <xHans> danke [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:39] <kennymc0> ok im here sorry that im late [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:45] Away You are no longer marked as being away. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:49] <Wolf_45> which campus, johnc4510-laptop? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:49] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: evening [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:55] <xHans> same question for other places in the state [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:05:56] <johnc4510-laptop> west [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:28] <johnc4510-laptop> they host the tfug meetings so they have wifi [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:33] <johnc4510-laptop> or use to [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:51] <Wolf_45> that'd be cool, I'd even look into taking some. Smile :-) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:52] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: thx for showing, not many here [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:56] <johnc4510-laptop> kk [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:06:59] <kennymc0> np [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:08] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: tyche had a cat emergency [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:09] <kennymc0> family was over so i was a little late [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:14] <slofgren> howdy [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:15] * xHans rouses the rabble. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:18] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: yes [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:20] <johnc4510-laptop> !! [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:23] <slofgren> haha [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:27] <slofgren> finally able [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:30] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: how's the wife [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:36] <slofgren> ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:42] <Wolf_45> Hey kennymc0 , hi slofgren [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:44] <slofgren> not doing any better [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:45] <johnc4510-laptop> oh good, i was concerned [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:50] <johnc4510-laptop> oh [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:54] <johnc4510-laptop> :/ [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:54] <xHans> slofgren: Free Software classes in Prescott or Flagstaff? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:07:54] <slofgren> yeah [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:03] <slofgren> ? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:09] <slofgren> xHans: ? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:16] <johnc4510-laptop> are there any at the CC [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:17] <xHans> slofgren: asking if you know of any Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:27] <slofgren> I don't know of any [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:29] * xHans wishes Mrs. slofgren well. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:35] <slofgren> I live in Chino out in the sticks [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:08:43] <slofgren> xHans: thanks [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:01] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, since there are so few tonight lets keep it informal [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:03] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:14] <kennymc0> sounds like a plan [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:26] <slofgren> Mrs. slofgren says thank you [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:29] <slofgren> Wink ;) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:33] Join azteech1 has joined this channel (n=stevan@0-1pool121-251.nas9.tucson1.az.us.da.qwest.net). [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:41] <johnc4510-laptop> so, xHans along with the list has picked a conference name [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:44] <johnc4510-laptop> i think [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:47] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:09:59] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: ablecon<


is that right [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:10] <azteech1> okay, will see how long I last ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:15] <johnc4510-laptop> k [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:17] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:20] <azteech1> see my twin is here ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:23] <johnc4510-laptop> yes [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:25] <johnc4510-laptop> ghost [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:28] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: ableconf [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:30] <azteech1> yep [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:38] <johnc4510-laptop> acronym for ?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:45] <Wolf_45> Hi azteech1 [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:54] <slofgren> ablecon...nice [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:10:56] <xHans> able+con becomes a positive negative Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:09] <johnc4510-laptop> all about linux enpowerment?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:11] <xHans> Arizona Business Liberty Expo [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:15] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:16] <johnc4510-laptop> nice [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:18] <azteech1> darn az storms [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:33] <xHans> or Arizona Business Liberty Experience, but tyche isn't here to get credit for that [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:35] <slofgren> azteech1: fo shizz [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:41] <azteech1> wolf_45 evening ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:11:43] <johnc4510-laptop> yep [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:04] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: can i ask about the wiki page for conference and the calendar [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:05] <johnc4510-laptop> ? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:11] <xHans> slofgren: yeah, I figure we can do lots with that, e.g.: enABLE, sustainABLE, capABLE, etc. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:13] <slofgren> oops [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:16] * slofgren hides [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:20] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:27] <slofgren> maybe this week [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:27] <azteech1> slofgren: evening [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:31] <slofgren> azteech1: hi [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:33] <johnc4510-laptop> it's xHans you have to hide from [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:49] <slofgren> mayb eit would be best for someone else to help get it running [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:12:54] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: we want to put the wiki on the ableconf domain, but wiki.ableconf.tld could be anywhere [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:02] <slofgren> I will be out of tow half on next week [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:08] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: read the email I haven't yet sent Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:09] <slofgren> town [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:14] <johnc4510-laptop> lol k [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:39] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: who could set it up do you think?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:42] <slofgren> I am temp on one of those split keyboards sop my typing is even worse [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:48] <johnc4510-laptop> ah [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:53] * slofgren looks over at xHans [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:13:59] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:02] <johnc4510-laptop> or kennymc0 ?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:10] <slofgren> yeah [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:13] <slofgren> I dunno [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:18] <johnc4510-laptop> me either [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:20] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: ping [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:25] <slofgren> work is killing me plus all the traveling [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:30] <johnc4510-laptop> sure [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:37] <kennymc0> sorry long weekend fell asleep there for a sec [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:38] <kennymc0> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:42] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: mail is in the ether [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:43] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:14:47] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: kk [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:03] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: did you install what was needed? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:14] <johnc4510-laptop> does it just need configuring? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:25] <slofgren> well...I worked on the wiki then uninstalled it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:29] <johnc4510-laptop> ah [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:30] <johnc4510-laptop> k [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:32] <slofgren> I ran into some issues [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:43] * xHans hands slofgren a subscription. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:49] <slofgren> it is not clear instructions [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:57] <slofgren> haha [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:15:57] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: slofgren was installing moinmoin and ran into some problems [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:13] <johnc4510-laptop> you ever install and configured moinmoin?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:14] <slofgren> plus there are some security concerns if not installed correctly [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:23] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: on every email Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:35] <johnc4510-laptop> you want to do this one?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:35] Quit azteech has left this server (Connection timed out). [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:16:37] <slofgren> xHans: lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:02] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: let's see if we get a bite on the email I just sent [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:06] <johnc4510-laptop> kk [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:16] <johnc4510-laptop> well, the space is there [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:20] <johnc4510-laptop> if needed [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:56] <xHans> ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:17:58] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, xHans i wanted to talk to you about one of the topics i'm interested in [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:06] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: shoot [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:09] <johnc4510-laptop> Community [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:13] <xHans> or add it to the topic thread [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:13] <johnc4510-laptop> and support [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:27] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: community is one of the tracks I'm going to push for [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:40] <johnc4510-laptop> i'd like to give that talk if possible Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:18:49] <johnc4510-laptop> and you think i'd be ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:15] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: I want a couple of talks on that, so that would be awesome if you did one [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:23] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:34] <johnc4510-laptop> it would be something i'm interested in [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:41] <johnc4510-laptop> and could handle i think [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:43] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:50] <kennymc0> of course you could handle it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:19:59] <kennymc0> if you can handle tyche you can handle anything [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:00] <kennymc0> ROFL [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:05] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:05] <xHans> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:20:51] <xHans> . social and community building [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:21:07] <xHans> I did forget support [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:21:54] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: all three mesh, and i would love to hype up the coming together of the state user groups [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:22:28] <johnc4510-laptop> try to bring everyone together [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:23:05] <johnc4510-laptop> i have some drupal experience too, in answer to your email [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:01] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: have you seen the suggested tracks for the conference? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:09] <kennymc0> not yet [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:19] <johnc4510-laptop> have you joined the mailing list?/ [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:38] <kennymc0> i tried once but i screwed up somehow and it was on my way out to work so i didnt get a chance to try it again [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:43] * johnc4510-laptop hits kennymc0 with 2x4 hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:24:45] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:20] * kennymc0 takes the blow from the 2x4 and says "thank you sir may i have another" [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:24] <kennymc0> ROFLMAOPMP [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:34] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yeah, most of us have used drupal [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:34] <johnc4510-laptop> just send a blank email to the subscribe addy with "subscribe" as the subject [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:45] <kennymc0> ah that was the problem [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:53] <kennymc0> what was the addy again? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:25:58] <johnc4510-laptop> hang on [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:08] <kennymc0> what am i hanging on to? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:13] <kennymc0> my keyboard? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:18] <xHans> borg+subscribe@stilyagin.com, I think [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:32] <azteech1> not familiar with it ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:42] <azteech1> drupal, that is .. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:26:45] <johnc4510-laptop> mailto:borg+subscribe@stilyagin.com [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:05] <xHans> azteech1: it's an easy to use web content mgt system [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:24] * johnc4510-laptop encourages all the members to subscribe to the mail list [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:24] <kennymc0> ok hopefully that worked [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:37] <xHans> kennymc0: see my previous mail to the list on how to read previous mails to the list Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:44] <xHans> or ask johnc4510-laptop for how to do that [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:53] <kennymc0> ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:53] <azteech1> ah, something I need to look into ... since I do play with web design for a company .... from time to time ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:27:58] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll forward my instructions on that to kennymc0 [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:28:03] <kennymc0> kk thx [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:28:35] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: sent [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:28:42] <xHans> azteech1: look at the most recent version rather than the one that's in whatever distro you use [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:26] <azteech1> xHans: am on 8.04 [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:31] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: we still need to work on the prescott demo when you get some free time later [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:35] <johnc4510-laptop> no hurry [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:41] <kennymc0> ok i think i just confirmed the subscription [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:29:56] <xHans> kennymc0: yes, you did [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:30:09] <kennymc0> cool [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:30:30] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:30:36] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:15] <azteech1> will subscribe after this storm is over ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:24] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: i'm going to MO from aug.14th - sept.4th, but will be around everyday here [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:31] <johnc4510-laptop> azteech1: thx [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:37] <azteech1> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:45] <slofgren> johnc4510-laptop: sounds like fun [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:53] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: nope [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:31:54] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:06] <kennymc0> ah you're just saying that because it's true [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:07] <kennymc0> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:11] <johnc4510-laptop> hot, humid, in laws etc [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:20] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:32:44] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: you have any announcements?? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:17] * johnc4510-laptop thinks for sure he will have at least the open office class announcement hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:32] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yup Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:40] <xHans> PLUG-devel is Thursday. http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/506 [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:33:48] <xHans> I don't know what the topic will be. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:15] <xHans> As johnc4510-laptop already mentioned, the Free Software conference is now named ABLE Conf. It's Saturday, 2008Sep20 at UAT. We'll be looking for more volunteers starting sometime this week. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:26] <xHans> We need to fill the online OpenOffice.org class through MCC. Any suggestions on [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:26] <xHans> how to promote it? Any contacts for marketing the class? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:34:44] <johnc4510-laptop> gutsy geeks [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:00] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yup, still waiting to hear back from Michael [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:06] <johnc4510-laptop> i can blog it if that will help [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:15] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: that would be great [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:35:25] <johnc4510-laptop> link to info please? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:28] <xHans> http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/BPC110.html [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:29] <johnc4510-laptop> i can put it on the tfug mailing list too [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:35] <xHans> excellent [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:36] <johnc4510-laptop> kk, thx [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:36:48] Quit Vincent_P has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:37:44] <xHans> it's a great opportunity to get an OOo class in, so we need to fill it. failing to fill it will likely mean it'll be years before we can try it again [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:37:53] <johnc4510-laptop> kk [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:09] <xHans> maybe ask on the TFUG list if anyone knows of companies using OOo internally [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:15] * xHans will do that on PLUG. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:16] <johnc4510-laptop> not sure what other ways i can advertise it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:23] Quit soldats has left this server (Connection timed out). [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:23] <johnc4510-laptop> kk [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:48] <xHans> ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:38:58] <johnc4510-laptop> storm must be hitting soldats part of town [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:00] <johnc4510-laptop> it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:03] <xHans> I'm trying the KJZZ events calendar [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:09] <johnc4510-laptop> it's all around us [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:12] <xHans> need to find other such resources as well [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:17] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: k [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:42] <xHans> Aside from my shell scripting class we should soon have listings of lots more Free Software classes for the fall semester. There will be posts to PLUG discuss a [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:42] <xHans> nd the PLUG web site in the near future. Classes at least at MCC, EMCC, PVCC and [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:39:42] <xHans> SCC. [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:05] <xHans> just got info on PVCC this weekend [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:09] <johnc4510-laptop> kk [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:18] <xHans> if anyone has info on classes elsewhere in the state please let me know [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:20] <johnc4510-laptop> online classes? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:29] <xHans> most are not online classes [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:32] <johnc4510-laptop> k [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:32] <azteech1> can name at least one company that is using OOo internally ..... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:43] <johnc4510-laptop> name it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:45] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:47] <xHans> azteech1: in US-AZ? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:40:59] <azteech1> Yep .... my company .... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:14] <xHans> azteech1: cool [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:18] <azteech1> Pool Water Products .... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:29] <xHans> any chance on anybody needing an OOo class? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:37] <johnc4510-laptop> this is bad form but...this song has the best guitar solo ever done [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:41] * johnc4510-laptop np: Uriah Heep - Salisbury - Salisbury (MP3/16:01) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:52] <azteech1> 19 branches, plus corporate ... use it, and lots of open source ... including pidgin ..... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:57] * johnc4510-laptop chastises himself [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:41:58] * xHans is listening to a bagpipe solo Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:03] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:10] <johnc4510-laptop> squak [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:11] <xHans> azteech1: most awesome [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:14] <azteech1> Unfortunately, nope, all trained up xHans ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:36] <xHans> BTW, that's another track for ABLEconf, US-AZ companies that use Free Software [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:46] <johnc4510-laptop> yep [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:51] <azteech1> lol johnc4510-laptop ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:42:52] <xHans> azteech1: you're in Tucson? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:14] <johnc4510-laptop> yes he is [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:40] <azteech1> Yep [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:40] <xHans> azteech1: if you're ever going to be in Phoenix on the 2nd Tuesday of the month or the 4th Tuesday of the month let me know Wink ;-) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:40] <azteech1> and two branches in Phx ..... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:43:56] <azteech1> I will do so, xhans ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:44:45] <xHans> and feel free to point those at the Phx offices at PLUG Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:11] <johnc4510-laptop> azteech1: yes, plug them in please Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:14] <johnc4510-laptop> boooo [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:19] <kennymc0> I had a friend that was trying to get his office to switch to OOo when the contract for office had to be renewed [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:29] <azteech1> Hee Hee, talk up open source all I can to them, but shall keep plugging away at them ...... no pun intended .... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:43] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:46] <kennymc0> he works for a lab that is part of that whole banner health thing so that would have probably been a big deal [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:51] <xHans> bad puns are OK, keeps tyche's attention Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:45:57] <kennymc0> too bad they didnt agree with him [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:46:04] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:46:40] <xHans> banner health was looking for someone with GNU/Linux experience several years ago [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:22] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: are we going to record and podcast any of the talks at the conference [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:43] <johnc4510-laptop> that's a big undertaking [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:48] <johnc4510-laptop> if we are [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:51] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: that would be awesome, but I'm not counting on it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:47:56] <johnc4510-laptop> right [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:05] <xHans> yeah, tons of work, which is why I won't count on it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:11] * johnc4510-laptop nods [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:18] <johnc4510-laptop> was just thinking out loud [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:26] * xHans will likely record some of them in super-slowmotion on his new camera, though Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:33] <johnc4510-laptop> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:48:51] <xHans> at high slow speed oncoming traffic on the freeway isn't moving [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:00] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:21] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, any other items to discuss? xHans or anybody [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:22] <kennymc0> it would be cool to try to record the talks at the conference [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:49:55] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: it would, but with several talks going at once, i'm not sure how we could pull that off [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:13] <johnc4510-laptop> maybe we could pick a few to highlight [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:15] <azteech1> well, someone get a cam set up, record and post them at later date .... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:17] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: I'm fresh out [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:35] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: ok, thx a bunch [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:37] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:53] <xHans> I figure much of the conference will be ad hoc [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:50:59] <johnc4510-laptop> yep [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:05] <xHans> that's fine the first time we do it [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:18] <johnc4510-laptop> i plan on hoc'ing up big ones if i speak [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:20] <johnc4510-laptop> Smile :) [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:25] <johnc4510-laptop> at least before hand [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:28] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:30] <xHans> but I want to make sure the outward facing ( non-geek ) stuff is well organized [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:39] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:40] <azteech1> ewwwwwwww .... TMI [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:48] <Thugal> we gonna have a projector for the talks? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:51:58] <Thugal> something like that? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:05] <xHans> BTW, there's a nice pub not too far from UAT for the post-conf party... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:06] <johnc4510-laptop> i think the tech talks and people will fall in line easier [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:17] <johnc4510-laptop> Thugal: i believe so [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:20] <xHans> Thugal: yeah, we need to make sure we have projectors for each room *and* spares [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:34] <kennymc0> where is UAT again? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:40] * johnc4510-laptop plays air guitar to the max [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:47] <xHans> kennymc0: 48th St and Baseline [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:52:55] <kennymc0> ok [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:04] <johnc4510-laptop> http://www.uat.edu/ [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:13] <xHans> it's a good location for those coming up from the south [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:24] <azteech1> yeah, agreed .... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:33] <azteech1> at least I know where Baseline is ... hehe ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:34] * johnc4510-laptop nods [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:51] <xHans> azteech1: at the bottom of the key where the basket is [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:53:59] <Wolf_45> wait, wait. wouldn't people fall in line a lot easier if you pub first, *then* conf? [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:21] <johnc4510-laptop> lol, they'd never leave the pub [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:25] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:30] * xHans == johnc4510-laptop [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:45] <xHans> besides, we'll make the last task be "cd /pub" [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:54:58] <johnc4510-laptop> ah nice [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:02] <azteech1> and we don't want any public jaywalkers .... stopped for public intox .... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:11] <azteech1> not a way to make headlines ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:32] <johnc4510-laptop> no, especially since i have to drive back to tucson [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:38] <Wolf_45> well, yeah. they probably couldn't walk a straight line, let alone fall "in line". heehee [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:38] <johnc4510-laptop> unless i stay overnight [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:55:47] <azteech1> yep, agreed ... [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:56:04] <Thugal> beer = new beer(); beer.drink("glug glug"); [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:56:28] <kennymc0> lol [Sun Aug 3 2008] [21:56:29] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, meeting adjourned }}}


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