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Agenda

  1. Introductions
  2. Announcements
  3. TBA
  4. TBA
  5. TBA
  6. Agenda for next week

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[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:01:50] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, lets go then
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:01:55] <johnc4510-laptop> Welcome to the Ubuntu Arizona LoCo meeting!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:01:58] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:02:31] <johnc4510-laptop> First up, we have a new member here. lenards could you intro yourself please
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:03] <lenards>  Hi - I'm Andy Lenards, I live in Tucson, I'm a programmer and work for the University of Arizona
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:26] <lenards>  I code in Java/C# - and play with dynamic languages like python and groovy
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:34] <johnc4510-laptop> nice
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:38] <johnc4510-laptop> a techie
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:42] <kennymc0_laptop>  cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:46] <tyche>    Welcome, lenards
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:54] <johnc4510-laptop> welcome to the group
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:58] <johnc4510-laptop> !!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:03:59] <kennymc0_laptop>  and johnc4510-laptop word is sitting here watching the movie
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:00] <lenards>  anything I forgot is at https://launchpad.net/~lenards
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:05] <lenards>  thanks everyone
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:07] <kennymc0_laptop>  had to drag my laptop out quick
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:09] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: kk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:13] <kennymc0_laptop>  and welcome lenards
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:15]     * FernHans gives lenards a shag, snakeskin coffee cup
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:17] <johnc4510-laptop> it was close
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:18] <lenards>  I appreciate the quick welcome everyone has given me
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:24] Join       soldats has joined this channel (n=soldats@unaffiliated/soldats).
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:31] <johnc4510-laptop> soldats: wb
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:33] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:35] <kennymc0_laptop>  morning soldats
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:37] <soldats>  hello
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:38] <johnc4510-laptop> meeting is on
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:46] <soldats>  just got home from tour and i feel like crap
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:04:52] <johnc4510-laptop> announcements then
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:04] <johnc4510-laptop> Intrepid Alpha 2 released
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  * Ubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-2/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  * Kubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-2/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  * Edubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-2/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  * Xubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-2/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:17] <johnc4510-laptop> You shouldn't try these unless you're comfortable with breakage!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:23] <johnc4510-laptop> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:45] <kennymc0_laptop>  ah so if you are used to windows you will feel like you are using a superior product then?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:55] <tyche>    Yep
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:58]     * lenards laughs 
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:05:59] <johnc4510-laptop> i will say that i installed it on the lappy with no problems other than i couldn't get wireless to work
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:06:20] <kennymc0_laptop>  cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:06:24] <johnc4510-laptop> some are having problems with the installer though
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:06:32] <johnc4510-laptop> and
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:06:38] <kennymc0_laptop>  i might try it out on my desktop later
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:06:42] <johnc4510-laptop> these are _not_ live CDs
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:06:57] <johnc4510-laptop> next
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:01] <johnc4510-laptop> Kubuntu has redesigned their website: http://www.kubuntu.org/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:09] <johnc4510-laptop> It's very bluish
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:11] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:23] <FernHans> any torrents of those images?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:23] <kennymc0_laptop>  kubuntu is very bluish in the first place
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:25] <johnc4510-laptop> nice looking though
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:25] <tyche>    I like blue, but that was a bit much.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:44] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: i think so, but i'll have to find the page
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:07:53] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll look after the meeting
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:07] <johnc4510-laptop> next
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:08] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: ok, whenever, I won't be able to play until tomorrow night
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:28] <johnc4510-laptop> ok we've been talking some about bug fixing for the global jam
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:34] <johnc4510-laptop> How to fix bugs videos I thought we should look over:
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:36] <Thugal>   the torrents are on right there in the file list
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  * http://youtube.com/ubuntudevelopers
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  * http://videos.ubuntu.com/motuvideos
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:08:53] <FernHans> Thugal: ok, I should look next time :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:01] <johnc4510-laptop> there are a couple of bug fixing videos
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:08] <johnc4510-laptop> for us noobs
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:10] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:20] <kennymc0_laptop>  lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:23] <johnc4510-laptop> maybe we can look those over and get a better idea
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:35] <johnc4510-laptop> i'd like to get us in on this
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:36] <johnc4510-laptop> but
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:39] <lenards>  packaging 101 in there - COOL
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:44] <johnc4510-laptop> i'm not one to lead the way
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:56] <johnc4510-laptop> since i have no juice in bug fixing
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:09:57] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:04] <johnc4510-laptop> so
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:14] <kennymc0_laptop>  a can of deet should do it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:21] <kennymc0_laptop>  oh wait different kinda bug
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:22] <kennymc0_laptop>  lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:31] <azteech>  lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:32] <johnc4510-laptop> lets look the vids over and talk about them during the week and at next weeks meeting please
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:40] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:41] <kennymc0_laptop>  ok
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:50]     * johnc4510-laptop smacks kennymc0 
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:51] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:10:57] <kennymc0_laptop>  lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:12] <kennymc0_laptop>  glad im not in tucson otherwise that would have hurt
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:12] <lenards>  guess I'll need to get my flash problem fixed (ha)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:21] <johnc4510-laptop> lol, next then
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:25] <johnc4510-laptop> You can see what the devs are planning for Intrepid here:
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  * general track-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid/Report/Summary
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  * more specific-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid/Report/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:39] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:46] <johnc4510-laptop> now, these are outlines
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:11:57] <johnc4510-laptop> but should be close to the finished product
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:12:11] <FernHans> lenards: use DownloadHelper or unplug to grab the video, then ffmpeg to convert it to another format
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:12:14] <johnc4510-laptop> but no one knows for sure
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:12:24] <FernHans> mplayer can sometimes play .flv files as well
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:12:40] <johnc4510-laptop> next
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:12:45] <johnc4510-laptop> New Launchpod episode #7 here:
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:12:55] <johnc4510-laptop> http://news.launchpad.net/podcast/launchpod-episode-7-new-launchpad-ui-community-agile
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:09] <johnc4510-laptop> several things there to look over
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:15] <johnc4510-laptop> for launchpad stuff
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:20] <kennymc0_laptop>  cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:37] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, FernHans you have any lug annoucements?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:49]     * johnc4510-laptop takes a break
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:50] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:54] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: sure, a couple
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:13:59] <johnc4510-laptop> go go
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:03] <FernHans> we have Stammtische Tuesday
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:03] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:22]     * FernHans looks around to see if there's an announcement for a Tucson Stammtisch ;-)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:29] <FernHans> http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/402
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:42] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: can you explain what Stammtische is again
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:45] <johnc4510-laptop> please
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:14:48] <FernHans> especially for those on the west side of Phoenix, please come out to the Stammtisch
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:15:03] <FernHans> it's in Avondale, so a ways, but it's right off the freeway and easy to get to
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:15:08] <johnc4510-laptop> is it a braut fest
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:15:32] <FernHans> a Stammtisch is a regular meeting, in the case of the Free Software Stammtische we're focused on Free Software :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:15:34] <johnc4510-laptop> jk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:15:42] <johnc4510-laptop> ah nice
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:00] <FernHans> essentially it's a bunch of people hanging out at a restaurant/bar on a regular basis, which for us is once a month
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:07]     * johnc4510-laptop urges the phoenix folks to attend
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:14] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:21] <johnc4510-laptop> sounds like fun
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:25] <FernHans> our next west side meeting is a week from Wed
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:32] <FernHans> http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/365
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:47] <FernHans> we'll be covering Hobbit monitoring and continuing with the Ubuntu Desktop class
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:52] <FernHans> Hobbit is a great monitoring package that also does history graphing
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:16:56] <FernHans> The Ubuntu Desktop class will be covering networking this time around
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:17:07] <johnc4510-laptop> a good subject
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:17:11] <lenards>  cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:17:12] <FernHans> yup :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:17:28] <FernHans> the next InstallFest is a week from Saturday in Tempe
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:17:50] <FernHans> hopefully we'll be announcing a regular security lab sometime this week
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:00] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: i sent some ubuntu CDs to a Lisa for installfests
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:01] <kennymc0_laptop>  cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:12] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: excellent!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:12] <johnc4510-laptop> you know her
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:19] <FernHans> she's also the one doing the security lab
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:34] <johnc4510-laptop> also sent some ubuntu case badges
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:43] <johnc4510-laptop> if you want one ask her
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:49] <johnc4510-laptop> or i can give you some
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:18:56] <FernHans> we'll want some for KidComputers and some other stuff. I'll contact you when those get closer to being ready
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:19:20] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, please keep in mind we have a limited supply
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:19:23] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:19:36] <johnc4510-laptop> but i'll accomodate you as we can
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:19:37] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:19:45]     * FernHans runs out of things to advertise except for the BugSquashing party and the debian birthday and the Free Software conference ...  :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:19:57] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:20:03] <FernHans> yeah, I know it's not unlimited, but I would like to have some for KidComputers
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:20:09] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:20:19] <FernHans> if that works out I bet we can petition for more specifically for that program
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:20:30]     * FernHans hands the mike back to johnc4510-laptop 
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:20:31] <johnc4510-laptop> the bugsquashing i want to do, if we can get a handle on it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:20:42] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:06] <johnc4510-laptop> lots of good announcements tonight
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:09] <johnc4510-laptop> moving on
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:12] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:18] <johnc4510-laptop> Team Branding:
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:28] <johnc4510-laptop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809290
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:42] <johnc4510-laptop> it seems no one is responding to the thread
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:44] <johnc4510-laptop> ???
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:21:53] <johnc4510-laptop> not like you people
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:02] <johnc4510-laptop> especially when you don't like something
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:03] <johnc4510-laptop> hee hee
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:16] <johnc4510-laptop> get in there and give us some ideas
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:21] <kennymc0_laptop>  ok
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:29] <johnc4510-laptop> i put a new theme up there a couple of wks ago
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:32] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:36] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche hated it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:38] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:39] <azteech>  given my feedback ... just not on thread
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:49] <tyche>    Likewise
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:22:53] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:07] <johnc4510-laptop> i want it in writing that you hate my stuff
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:08] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:24] <tyche>    OK, I'll give a detailed critique.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:27] <FernHans> I personally would like to see a color from US-AZ such as the red earth or our desert's brown
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:28] <johnc4510-laptop> of course everyone is welcome to try it themselves
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:39] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: great
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:47] <johnc4510-laptop> it's pretty easy to do
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:50] <br24>     johnc4510-laptop: I might put the logo in a different location
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:53] <FernHans> I like the desert landscaping, of course :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:23:57] <kennymc0_laptop>  ill have a detailed critique as well
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:00] <johnc4510-laptop> br24: kk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:07] <br24>     oh yeah, greetings
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:12] <br24>     been here last 15 min
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:21] <tyche>    FernHans: See http://www.flickr.com/photos/22090195@N03/2527276691/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:24] <johnc4510-laptop> just customize a theme and take some screeny shots
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:28] <tyche>    Ignore the wallpaper.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:36] <johnc4510-laptop> and the theme
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:38] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:47] <FernHans> how about a roadrunner in the same style as the heron?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:51] <johnc4510-laptop> he does have the copper affect
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:52] <tyche>    I HEARD THAT!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:24:58] <azteech>  lol ...
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:25:00] <johnc4510-laptop> for color
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:25:06] <johnc4510-laptop> you were suppose to
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:25:10] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:25:18] <kennymc0_laptop>  yeah i think it does need some more color
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:25:36] <johnc4510-laptop> anyway, get in there and comment or add a new idea please
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:25:37] <tyche>    A roadrunner, huh?  I'll work on it.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:02] <FernHans> tyche: it would be cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:10] <FernHans> what's intrepid's animal?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:14] <johnc4510-laptop> also, azteech has volunteered to look into a team theme for firefox3 for us
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:27] <kennymc0_laptop>  cool
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:34] <johnc4510-laptop> it's just a priliminary look see
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:41] <johnc4510-laptop> but we have hopes
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:42] <br24>     looks like you guys are doing some good stuff
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:45] <azteech>  will see what I can come up with ... :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:26:47] <johnc4510-laptop> br24: thx
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:04] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, next
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:05] <tyche>    And Ibex
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:05] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:07] <lenards>  intrepid is ibex
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:23] <johnc4510-laptop> btw, i have an ibex pic that is really good
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:28] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll post it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:29] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:37] <johnc4510-laptop> huge horns
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:41] <lenards>  it's a wild mountain goat?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:49] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:27:56] <FernHans> we could do a navajo sheep for intrepid
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:00] <johnc4510-laptop> looks a lot like tyche
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:07]     * johnc4510-laptop runs and hides
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:07] <lenards>  I thought all the animals were bird/dragon related for some reason
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:18] <FernHans> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:28] <tyche>    Naw. The first one was a warthog.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:33] <johnc4510-laptop> it's up to mark as to what the next animal and name will be
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:45] <johnc4510-laptop> he does all the choosing on that
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:56] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, next
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:28:59] <johnc4510-laptop> conference
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:01] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:13] <johnc4510-laptop> we have been lax the last couple of wks
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:14] <johnc4510-laptop> or
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:16] <FernHans> m needs to be magnificent meerkat!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:22] <johnc4510-laptop> i should say i have been lax
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:25] <johnc4510-laptop> :(
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:32] <kennymc0_laptop>  hey i showed up this weekend
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:34] <johnc4510-laptop> been really busy
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:39] <johnc4510-laptop> so
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:29:57] <johnc4510-laptop> i'm still trying to get location set for sure
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:30:10] <johnc4510-laptop> hopefully this wk, i'll have an answer
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:30:46] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: i've seen nothing from the mailing list, am i missing out or have we started using it yet?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:00] <FernHans> http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=1262
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:06] <johnc4510-laptop> i know her
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:10] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: several posts, including one today
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:30] <FernHans> I didn't see an email addy for you, which is why I asked
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:39] <FernHans> tyche is on the list, so blame him for not sharing :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:39] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: hmmm, maybe i'm not see any
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:31:48] <johnc4510-laptop> i confirmed
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:32:04] <johnc4510-laptop> well, i'll look up the confirm and send it too you
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:32:10] <FernHans> ok
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:32:10] <azteech>  tyche is hording all the good stuff again ..... forrrrrrr shame
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:32:39] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: good link i should have had that one as i knew about it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:32:41] <johnc4510-laptop> :/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:13] <tyche>    It's not my fault.  johnc4510-laptop didn't tell me he wasn't getting them.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:18] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: can you email me the stuff already sent to the list?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:20] <kennymc0_laptop>  uh oh johnc4510-laptop is jelous now
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:23] <kennymc0_laptop>  lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:25] <tyche>    It's johnc4510-laptop's fault
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:25] <lenards>  I linked the bestbuy.com listing in here the other day
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:43] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: I'll email you how to ask the list server for it :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:51] <johnc4510-laptop> it was in the UWN today, i wrote it up
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:33:59] <johnc4510-laptop> no i didn't
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:03] <johnc4510-laptop> but i read it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:03] <tyche>    WHO wrote it up?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:04] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:08] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: just getting to some news from the last week and that was the next thing :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:09] <tyche>    Hee hee
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:11] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: kk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:37] <azteech>  lol ...
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:34:39] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: ok, go with it please
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:35:12] <FernHans> wow, BB wants $130 to install Ubuntu
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:35:19] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:35:23] <FernHans> http://blogs.computerworld.com/ubuntu_linux_goes_retail
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:35:33] <johnc4510-laptop> i'd do it for a lot less
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:35:35] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:35:43] <johnc4510-laptop> and give support
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:08] <johnc4510-laptop> well, any advertising is better than nothing
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:08] <kennymc0_laptop>  heck doing it for $20 would still make a lot of money if you did it enough
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:22] <johnc4510-laptop> ah, but gas!!
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:37] <kennymc0_laptop>  they pay the gas to bring the computer to you to install it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:44] <kennymc0_laptop>  gotta think these things through
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:52] <kennymc0_laptop>  have to make them do as much work as possible
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:36:56] <azteech>  maybe we ought to adverse the fact that there are folks in az, that will do it better, and cheaper ... lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:04] <word>     :p
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:14] <johnc4510-laptop> so, FernHans, what's been going on in the mail list
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:29] <azteech>  maybe get some fliers up, in the tech shops ...
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:32] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: ah, sorry, didn't realize what you were asking
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:36] Join       jsonder has joined this channel (n=jsonder@ip70-162-30-143.ph.ph.cox.net).
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:37] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:42] <johnc4510-laptop> jsonder: welcome
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:44] <azteech>  if they would allow the competition ...
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:37:56] <FernHans> the conference list has been mostly been working on date and location
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:11] <jsonder>  I'm late.
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:17] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:26] <johnc4510-laptop> how many people are subscribed?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:33] <johnc4510-laptop> if you know
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:37] <FernHans> we've decided to go with Software Freedom Day, http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:46] <kennymc0_laptop>  subscribed to what?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:47] <FernHans> I think we have 10 or 15
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:38:52] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:02] <kennymc0_laptop>  im lost now probalby because i have missed a couple of meetings
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:06] <kennymc0_laptop>  :S
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:13] <FernHans> kennymc0_laptop: mailing list for organizing the Free Software conference
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:22] <kennymc0_laptop>  ah
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:25] <kennymc0_laptop>  ok
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:33] <FernHans> we need to figure out where to host it
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:42] <FernHans> I've been waiting on word about ASU
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:44] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: SFD for the conference theme?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:39:54] <FernHans> I will try to contact UAT at the beginning of the week
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:40:15] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: we'll make it a combined event
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:40:18] <word>     FernHans: i'm starting at asu on the 25th of august o.O maybe i can figure it out then :-/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:40:22] <johnc4510-laptop> sounds good
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:40:43] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: do we want to sign up the event at SFD website?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:40:49] <FernHans> word: SFD is 20 Sep, we need to book a place soon
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:04] <word>     were you looking at the place being at asu?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:04] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: Dennis has a Phoenix group, we'll piggy back with that for now
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:11] <FernHans> there's also a Tucson group
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:18] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:37] <FernHans> word: it'd likely be at the MU, but maybe one of the off-campus places on Mill or even better a downtown Phoenix location
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:48] <FernHans> UofA has digs in downtown Phoenix as well, I think
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:41:59] <lenards>  they do
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:42:03] <lenards>  the joint campus
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:42:27] <FernHans> http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/teams/northamerica/AZ/teamtucson
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:42:34] <FernHans> lenards: a joint campus?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:42:47] <FernHans> cool, that would be a good location if they have the right facilities
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:42:54] <word>     FernHans: ooo the MU will be all nice and shiny by september with the reconstruction finished after the fire :P
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:43:05] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: who is mrapples, do you know?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:43:26] <word>     i thought it was hilarious that at the orientation they said the MU was being 'renovated' and made no mention of a fire :P
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:43:30] <FernHans> word: I forgot about the fire
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:43:59] <lenards>  FernHans: there is a complex they were building - thought it was done, all three universities have facility together downtown
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:03] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: don't know him, I was hoping someone in Tucson would
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:24] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i'm kind of lost now, are we going with MU location for the conference?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:27] <word>     one of my old teacher's sons  is in asu's IT department and he's the guy that had to run over and try to remotely shut down the servers they have in the MU ;p
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:32] <FernHans> lenards: can you check on that and whether it would be able to host an event?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:36] <johnc4510-laptop> should i still contact ASU?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:39] <johnc4510-laptop> again
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:52] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: it hasn't yet been decided, yes, please try ASU again
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:44:57] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:45:16] <FernHans> word: the ones up top that have keystroke loggers or down in the basement?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:45:51] <word>     they have a server room on the top floor where the fire was
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:45:57] <lenards>  FernHans: I can see what the situation is
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:46:09] <word>     pretty much their main servers
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:46:35] <FernHans> lenards: danke
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:47:27] <FernHans> essentially we need several rooms that can be used for presentations and a larger room that can be used for demos and vendor booths
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:47:36] <johnc4510-laptop> right
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:47:45] <FernHans> it would also be cool to have a large room for a keynote
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:47:51] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:47:58] <FernHans> we also need lots of power connections and good networking, of course :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:48:05] <kennymc0_laptop>  of course
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:48:17] <johnc4510-laptop> we need at least one room big enough for 200-300 people? for keynote
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:48:19] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:48:32] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: if we do a keynote, that's what we should plan for
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:48:44] <FernHans> if we can't get the big room we can skip the keynote
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:48:45] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:49:02] <FernHans> I'd like to get someone cool for a keynote, but it's not essential
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:50:02] <FernHans> if you're interested in working to help get the conf organized as me, johnc4510-laptop or tyche for info on joining the mailing list
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:50:18]     * johnc4510-laptop nods
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:50:26] <FernHans> well, maybe just me and tyche since johnc4510-laptop's info is faulty :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:50:56] <johnc4510-laptop> yeah, i don't know what happened
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:50:58] <johnc4510-laptop> :/
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:51:36] <kennymc0_laptop>  well tyche should be able to straighten you out
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:51:41] <kennymc0_laptop>  no worries
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:51:43] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:51:45] <kennymc0_laptop>  :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:01] <tyche>    Oh, goodie!  I get to straighten out johnc4510-laptop
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:08] <johnc4510-laptop> :(
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:13] <tyche>    Hee hee
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:14] <kennymc0_laptop>  yep i give you permission and everything
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:16] <kennymc0_laptop>  hee hee
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:27] <kennymc0_laptop>  muahahahahahahahaha
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:32] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, FernHans anything else on the conference ??
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:38] <azteech>  lol,
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:47] <azteech>  boy was there a anchor there or something?
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:48] <azteech>  lol
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:52:54] <FernHans> johnc4510-laptop: just that we need to get it going :)
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:00]     * johnc4510-laptop puts on his noob hat
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:04] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:13] <johnc4510-laptop> ok
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:42] <johnc4510-laptop> i think that's about it then, remember meetings lol, and the threads
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:45] <johnc4510-laptop> and the conference
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:50] <kennymc0_laptop>  of course
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:54] <johnc4510-laptop> nice job everyone thx
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:53:58] <kennymc0_laptop>  np
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:00] <johnc4510-laptop> good meeting
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:04] <kennymc0_laptop>  yep
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:08] <johnc4510-laptop> adjourned
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:08] <kennymc0_laptop>  lot longer than the last one
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:17] <tyche>    yep
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:25] <lenards>  thanks
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:35] <johnc4510-laptop> FernHans: thx
[Sun Jul 13 2008] [21:54:38] <azteech>  lol, sure was, and more productive than last two hehe 


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