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If you have additions to the Agenda, please post them here after confirming with JohnCrawford or CraigAEddy

Agenda

  1. Introductions
  2. Announcements
  3. Team Approval: Approval Application

  4. Open Source Conference Planning: Open Source Conference Planning

  5. Intrepid Ibex Planning: Intrepid Ibex Planning

  6. Agenda for next week

Log

 [Sun Jun 8 2008] [20:59:48]     * johnc4510-laptop asks if everyone is ready??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [20:59:51] <paul928>   Never leave /home without it.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:00] <tyche>     +1
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:05] <jsonder>   ok
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:05] <paul928>   +1
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:06] <kennymc0_laptop>   +1ish
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, lets start then
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Meetings/08June08
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  agenda
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  ,
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:00:55] <johnc4510-laptop>  The Prescott Computer Society has invited us to give an Ubuntu Demo in September. This is thanks to slofgren, he will be in charge of the details. We will be discussing this as we get closer to the time.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:01:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:01:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  shane email a bunch of his lug contacts and we got this hit in return
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:01:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  a good chance to make a presentation
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:01:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:01:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  In case someone has been living in cave, the Arizona Team went before the Americas LoCo Board last wednesday and we are now an officially recognized "Ubuntu Approved LoCo Team."
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  w00t
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  !!
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:15] <tyche>     Yeeeeeee-Hawwwww
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  Great work everyone!! I a _VERY_ happy to be a part of this LoCo and all the great work going on.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:22] <xHans>     congrats
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  hey x
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  hans
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:43] <xHans>     oops, was that my ouside voice? :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  The log of the meeting is posted here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplication
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:02:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:03:01] <xHans>     s/ous/outs/
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:03:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  One of the perks for approved loco teams is bulk shipments of Ubuntu CDs. I send in our request for our allotment. I'm assuming it will take 4-6 weeks to receive them. Between now and then we need to discuss how best to utilize them.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:03:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  the wiki says we get 400 assorted flavors of cds
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:03:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  :-)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:03:48] <paul928>   donate many to public and school libraries
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:04:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  that is one of the areas we hope to   yes
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:04:12] <kennymc0_laptop>   that sounds like a good idea
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:04:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  there is a new program forming up on open source in libraries
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:04:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  i will consult that for ideas
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:04:50] <xHans>     are you interested in working with Kid Computers and maybe giving the CDs wtih the computers?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:05:11] <xHans>     http://www.kidcomputers.org/
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:05:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: sure
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:05:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  that sounds like a great idea
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:06:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: do you have contacts there?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:06:08] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: cool
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:06:12] <paul928>   xHans, do you know if that program is being implemented in Yuma?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:06:27] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: yes, another community college instructor and the guys at Red Seven
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:06:58] <jsonder>   No kids computers drop off in Tucson!
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:06:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice, would they be receptive to us donating some cds?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:07:04] <xHans>     paul928: it's Phoenix area only for now, but if you can find someone in Yuma to help organize it we can probably expand
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:07:18] <xHans>     jsonder: see what I just said to paul928 :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:07:40] <jsonder>   yayayaya
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:07:48] <xHans>     ENOSGTBLACK: Sierra Vista is out :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:08:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  I'll use the contact info there inquire if they would like us to help out with cds
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:08:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  so libraries, and kid computers then
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:09:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  how about college book stores? for their counters?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:09:28] <tyche>     Don't forget senior centers
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:09:30] <xHans>     maybe some retail establishments
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:09:40] <xHans>     Red Seven already gives out stuff
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: we tried some tucson computer stores and they wanted nothing to do with open source :(
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:05] <xHans>     there's a place in Mesa that wants to start selling GNU/Linux boxen and is mostly sold on Kubuntu
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:14] <word>      kubuntu ftw
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:32] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: we'll get one and send them business and then the others will fall in line :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: name of store?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol   i likey
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:48] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: I'm trying to remember, ah, got it
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:10:54] <xHans>     motherboards and upgrades
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, when you do just let us know
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:20] <xHans>     a friend knows the owner and the owner keeps asking more and more about GNU/Linux
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, a good start i think, we can expand later
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  nexit
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  next
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:11:55] <johnc4510-laptop>  Another perk is an web address on the Ubuntu servers. We are still going to set up our own server, but this is an added way to gain web exposure for our team. In addition to the webpage we will be able to have out own planet syndicated.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  That means that we can have a blog page that every member with a blog can publish to. I'll have detailed instructions for the next meeting on how it works. Members can use it for team announcements, tutorials, etc. Note: This would be a monitored planet and content would have to be acceptable!!
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:31] <xHans>     do Ubuntu or Canonical have a program for helping small computer retailers to start selling with Ubuntu pre-installed?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: not that i know of
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:52] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: ok
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  Examples of team web site on the Ubuntu servers
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  Ubuntu Solar System: http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:12:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  Florida Team Blog: http://florida.ubuntu-us.org/planet/
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  Florida Team Website on Ubuntu servers: http://florida.ubuntu-us.org/
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  kennymc0_laptop: you interested in having a blog page?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche:  and i already have ours
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  jsonder: ??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:13:57] <kennymc0_laptop>   i dont have time for a blog right now
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:01] <jsonder>   I've doone too much on LJ
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:27] <johnc4510-laptop>  this isn't a pressing thing, i am just trying to get a feel from the team
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'll send an email to the list to see if we get any hits
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:58] <word>      i want a blog page >.>
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:14:59] <xHans>     can the blog engine take feeds from other blog engines?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:15:33] <xHans>     e.g. could jsonder tag certain posts in LimeGerbil for use in the Ubuntu blog and have the Ubuntu blog automagically pick them up?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:15:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: maybe, not sure, i know the ubuntu members blog on the planet takes from blog sites
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:15:41] <tyche>     Well, the Planet Ubuntu does.  And I think Ohio did it that way
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:15:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  like tyche and mine are on wordpress
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:12] <xHans>     ok, then it should take feeds somehow
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:16] <jsonder>   I'd need a life, first
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:21] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:32] <tyche>     Naw.  Life isn't necessary, jsonder
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:34] <tyche>     Hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  to me, it's just another way of getting the team out front in exposure in Arizona
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:16:48] <jsonder>   blog about what then?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:15] <jsonder>   Ah, OK, but the Rosemont mine might get some attention
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:20] <tyche>     Well, you could blog about your experiences with Ubuntu
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  sure
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:32] <jsonder>   I installed Lenny today
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  that too
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:46] <jsonder>   it's debian
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:49]      * xHans installs squiggy
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:17:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok next then is the open source conference
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:13] <tyche>     xHans needs Sugar
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  I sent emails the tucson lugs this week, and also to the google representative in charge of open source in CA. It was friday when I sent these and I haven't yet received responses.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:51] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: got any Phx GOOG contacts?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:51] <tyche>     You might not get any till the first part of the week
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  as soon as i do i'll be letting everyone know
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:18:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  and slofgren sent emails to all the lugs he is associated with
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: i don't
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:05] <jsonder>   I downloaded it way back when and have it on my OLPC
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:20] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: ok, I'll talk to those I know here
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: i was hoping the California guy with google might smooth the way for us
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:33] <xHans>     there will likely be a few googlians at paintball Saturday
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah great
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:19:58] <xHans>     my contact with DeLUG is contacting them, but no response thus far
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:20:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:20:28] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: I've met the community relations person for Phx and know someone that works with her all the time
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:20:30] <jsonder>   xHans:  isn't Sugar still available?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:20:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  well, the sooner we get a few more of the lugs on board, the sooner we can start some real planning
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:20:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: great
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:20:56] <xHans>     jsonder: it should be
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:21:22] <xHans>     one Red Hat person has expressed some support, waiting to hear back from the one in Flagstaff
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:21:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: i was thinking that once we get 4 or so of the lugs on line with the idea, we should have a irc meetup to hack out some plans??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:22:00] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: sounds good to me
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:22:12] <jsonder>   I just followed links after a google search, my green machine is still current
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:22:18] <xHans>     and we already hit it as slofgren and I represent 4 groups ;-)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:22:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: you have more experience with this stuff than me, do you have ideas on topics ??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:22:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  and good speakers?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:23:30] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: we're going through topic ideas for LOPSA to use with OLF and SCaLE, I can bring in that list
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:23:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  great
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:23:54] <tyche>     Richard Stallman or "Mad Dog" might be good.  But they'd be a bit hard to get on short notice (short=less than 6 months)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:24:11] <xHans>     I can also bring in some speaker ideas, but I think we need to really get lots of locals involved, especially the first time out
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:24:29] <xHans>     do we have a source of funding to bring someone in?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:24:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: agreed   this time around local talent
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:24:39] <kennymc0_laptop>   yeah if this turns into a anual thing we could make it bigger and better each year
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:24:56] <xHans>     kennymc0_laptop: that's my hope :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: not really, i was hoping this first one could be a free conference
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  free to come and free speakers
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  to encourage a good turnout
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:26] <xHans>     OK, funding would be for paying for some speakers to come in
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:28] <tyche>     We've definitely got to stay local, then
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  in the state
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:37] <xHans>     sponsors can pay that part
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  yeah, that's an idea
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:25:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  we could use any donated funds for outside speakers
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:26:00] <xHans>     we might be able to get one of my suggested speakers since you're now an official team :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:26:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  maybe the keynote at least
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:26:11] <paul928>   Any suggestions for sponsors?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:26:12] <tyche>     And next year, we can call it the Phoenix Open.  Hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:26:37]      * xHans smacks tyche with a putter
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:26:43] <tyche>     ROFL
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  google, ubuntu, debian, monster.com and any others we can bring in
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  ??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:21] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: smacks tyche
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  redhat, etc
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:45] <xHans>     sponsors to talk to: GOOG, RedSeven, Motherboards and Upgrades, Motorola, Intel, some of the Mot spinoffs
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:27:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah nice
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:28:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:28:14] <xHans>     someone else can talk to txtmaster because I won't
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:28:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: you thinking we should have booths for anyone wanting one??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:28:35] <paul928>   maybe AutoZone, they use RedHat in their stores
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:28:49] <xHans>     we need to know location before we can plan for booths
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:29:04] <xHans>     AuitoZone is CMK Automotive?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:29:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  well, i'm pretty sure it will be ASU
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:29:28] <xHans>     we need to know if booths would be allowed and how much they'd cost and how many we'd have room for
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:30:09] <paul928>   xHans, not sure if the're CMK or not.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:30:20] <xHans>     well, we could likely get interest from UAT, community colleges, a few high schools and maybe a business or two
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:30:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  k on checking if allowed, shouldn't they set up their own at their cost, or are you suggesting charging for booth space
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:30:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  ??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:30:40] <xHans>     paul928: OK, well I know one of the sysadms over at CMK :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:30:57] <paul928>   xHans, great
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:31:10] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: depending on where we go,  the facility might have requirements on booths, especially booths for pay
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:31:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:31:38] <xHans>     the civic center requires $50 per booth to hook up electricity or something like that
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:31:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  when the pres. of ASU gets back off vacation i'll find those things out
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:31:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm hoping the university won't want that
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:10] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: you're talking directly to ASU's prez?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  but we'll find out
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  the pres of the lug
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  i think he is a professor there
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:43] <xHans>     ah, ok, being a prof can help
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  sure
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:32:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:33:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'll find out for sure
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:33:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  :->
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:33:09] <xHans>     ASU's still a pain, but there are a few locations that can work out just fine
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:33:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  k, well, if we can get a central space like that for free, i think we should maybe use it for this first conference
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:34:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  being as how we're trying to make it free
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:34:09] <xHans>     ok
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:34:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  then maybe next yr we can expand it and make it a really big deal
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:34:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  i hope
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:34:52] <tyche>     UoP Stadium?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:35:00] <xHans>     let's get good presenters and fill a few specific tracks this time around
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:35:03] <jsonder>   Open source is just beginning to resonate with the retirees down here.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:35:28] <xHans>     jsonder: down here is where?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:35:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  i was also thinking if we could get some merchandise donations, we could run a games booth and use the money to donate to a charity of some kind
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:35:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  ??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:35:36] <jsonder>   Green Valley
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:36:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: agreed with yours above
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:36:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  on specific tracks
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:36:33] <xHans>     speaking of games, good demos is also a must
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:36:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  yep
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:36:59] <jsonder>   Mint for movies?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:37:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:37:09] <xHans>     myth, asterisk, gaming boxen ( mame, ddr, mahjohng )
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:37:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:37:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, can anyone think of anything else on the conference we need to throw out there at this time?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:38:03] <xHans>     we need to start thinking about where to advertise it
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:38:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:38:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:38:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  radio, print, flyers, on all lug and team web sites
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:38:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  where else
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:38:53] <xHans>     I think I can cover KJZZ, I should be able to get contacts at phx new times, azcentral/republic, mesa tribune, west valley view and maybe az daily star
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:07] <xHans>     do you have anyone for doing graphics?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  not yet
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:23] <tyche>     What do you mean by graphics, xHans
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  well, tyche is working on a flyer
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  sorry forgot that
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:39:45] <xHans>     ok, that, in my experience, is one of the hardest things for geeks to do and graphics are especially important for marketing
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:19] <tyche>     I've had some limited experience with a previous employer
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  so are you thinking a logo for the conference?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:27] <xHans>     tyche: I mean ad banners, flyers, graphics for advertising presentations
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:51] <tyche>     Yea, I did brochures, and was webmaster for the company.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:40:54]      * xHans watches tyche build 3D flyers in CAD and then export them to 2D space :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:05] <kennymc0_laptop>   lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:11] <tyche>     I wish.  But AutoCAD won't run under WINE
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:22] <tyche>     Otherwise, I could do it.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:46] <xHans>     tyche: there are several Free Software CAD programs, but I think most are only for circuit boards
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:41:56] <jsonder>   I have windows boxen
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:00] <tyche>     That, or they're only 2d
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:01]      * xHans introduces tyche to Inkscape and Blender :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:17] <tyche>     and DON'T mention BLENDER.  It's the worst disaster I've ever seen
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm sitting this one out, and glad i am   hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:34] <jsonder>   you ever use xfig/
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:35] <xHans>     tyche: really? I know a few people who really like it
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:40] <tyche>     johnc4510-laptop: COWARD!!!
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:42:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:43:04]      * xHans notes to talk to tyche about Blender sometime, but not during the mtg
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:43:14] <tyche>     Maybe they know something I don't know (likely).  Why don't we talk later.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:43:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  well, we need some kind of logo emblem to build around??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:43:53] <jsonder>   Phoenix rising from ashes?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:43:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:44:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  a saruaha in the sunset with a computer screen embedded   hee heee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:44:32] <xHans>     hmmm, we also need to tie in lots of education stuff
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:44:59] <xHans>     might be able to get some interest from the astronomy group and maybe the dude with the kicking flight simulator
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  education as in ??   for schools??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:23] <xHans>     and then there are those people who throw really expensive electronics at other planets...
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  i know there is a astro program of some kind
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:31] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: yes
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:53] <xHans>     the astronomy group takes a telescope controlled by GNU/Linux boxen to SCaLE
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:45:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  right
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:19] <xHans>     there are also just fun edu programs like all the space ones like kstars
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:21] <tyche>     How about the crew from Tucson that just dropped a lander on Mars?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:21] <johnc4510-laptop>  wonder is u of a and the mars project uses open source software??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:30] <xHans>     tyche: exactly
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:43] <xHans>     2 friends are sysadms that work with that project :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:46:58] <tyche>     As I understand it, it's using a stripped down version of Linux
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:12] <xHans>     they're a bit busy right now, but things should calm down for them soonish
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  maybe they'd like to talk about open source use in outerspace projects and give an update on what
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:30] <tyche>     I can't imagine why they should be busy.  Hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  s going on there on mars
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  right
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  those are great ideas
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:47:50] <xHans>     someone else is tracking the contacts I've volunteered to make?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:06] <tyche>     I've got the log rolling, xHans
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  right
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:12] <xHans>     BTW, 45 minute ping times to Mars
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  not bad really
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:25] <tyche>     I'll pull the information out for the Newsletter.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:37] <xHans>     tyche: cool, danke :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:44] <tyche>     45 minute ping.  Sounds like Vista
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:48:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: we need to put these ideas on the planning page too
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:05] <tyche>     Let me pull it together, first.  then we can steal from there.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok what else ??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:10] <xHans>     jsonder: we have a mostly retiree group in Apache Junction going through the Ubuntu class and loving it
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:19] <xHans>     they're adding a bunch of other stuff as well
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:49:48] <jsonder>   I have trouble keeping them motivated.  Any suggestions?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:50:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, we seem to have a bunch of ideas to work on   :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:50:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  anything else folks
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:50:15] <xHans>     I can definitely get us time on the gutsy geeks radio show
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:50:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  cool
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:50:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  that's the kind of exposure we need
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: any idea how many people we might draw??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  i know that's a crap shoot
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  but
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:38] <xHans>     we could easily draw a couple hundred people, but only if we're successful in getting the word out
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  cool, i was hoping maybe 300
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:52] <xHans>     no advertising and we'll be lucky to get a dozen
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:51:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  sure
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, xHans has some annoucements
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:14] <xHans>     speaking of getting the word out...
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:21] <word>      ?
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:27] <johnc4510-laptop>  not you
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:30] <xHans>     paintball this Saturday in Phx, let me know if you're interested
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:35] <word>      :(
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:52:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  wish i could be there
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:03] <xHans>     this Thursday PLUG will be starting the Ubuntu desktop class at our east side meeting, we'lll also be covering installing Linux on a PS3
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  i would take tyche and destroy him
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  oh nice
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:18] <kennymc0_laptop>   ROFL
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:46]      * tyche ignores johnc4510-laptop's snide remarks, except to note that they should be placed in the Newsletter.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:48] <xHans>     in the fall we'll have Free Software classes at the community colleges
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:53:59] <xHans>     there will be an online OpenOffice.org class
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:09] <xHans>     I will be teaching a shell scripting class
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  how are you holding the online class    in irc??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  oh, nice
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:28] <xHans>     both of those will be getting more details published when I get my notes organized
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'd like to attend the shell class, if it's online
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:43] <xHans>     I think the class is using a flash thingy and a local install of OO.o
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:54] <xHans>     the shell class will not be online this time around
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:54:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  bummer
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  :(
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  hee hee
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:13] <xHans>     come up to Mesa twice a week for 8 weeks :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  with gas at $4 and rising
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:46]      * johnc4510-laptop shakes his head in the negative
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:55:54] <paul928>   I also vote forputting the shell scripting class online.
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:56:21] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: is that all??
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:56:28] <xHans>     PLUG has upciming presentations on MythTV, high availability, Hobbit Monitoring and surviving a DDoS
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:56:49]      * xHans is now done  with his ads :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <xHans>     thanks for letting me bring them up
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  and thx for coming
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  how was flag
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  cool i bet
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  anytime
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:32] <xHans>     for those with events in the Phx area, please let me know about them, so I can mention them at PLUG meetings
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:57:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  cool
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:58:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, i think that's it, thx all for a great meeting     :)
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:58:07] <xHans>     Flag was nice, but cold stone was gone so we had to settle for yummy chocolates
[Sun Jun 8 2008] [21:58:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  adjourned 


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