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[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:00:51] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, lets get going
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:07] <johnc4510-laptop> for the new folks here tonight, Mauricio and urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:37] <johnc4510-laptop> we usually have the new folks type a short line or 2 introducing yoursleves
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:40] <johnc4510-laptop> so
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:55] <johnc4510-laptop> Mauricio: could you tell us a little about you?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:02:00] <johnc4510-laptop> nothing big
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:02:00] <Mauricio> Sure
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:02:03] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:03:17] <Mauricio> I am Mauricio Martinez, I come from Chihuahua, Mexico, I have almost 4 months at Phoenix, I am an IT Proffesional and have 6 months knowing Ubuntu
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:03:44] <johnc4510-laptop> nice
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:03:53] <tyche> Welcome, Mauricio
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:01] <Mauricio> Thanks
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:11] <johnc4510-laptop> welcome to the team
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:11] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:25] <johnc4510-laptop> always nice to have IT folks around
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:39] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, urugTON, how about you?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:46] <johnc4510-laptop> a little info if you please
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:58] <urugTON> degree in CS from 1970, worked on mainframes, PCs, servers, networks - currently i manage a DR site
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:11] <johnc4510-laptop> nice, another pro
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:17] <sloggerkhan> what's a DR site?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:21] <tyche> If I may ask, what's a DR site?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:23] <johnc4510-laptop> welcome to you too
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:30] <tyche> And Welcome urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:37] <johnc4510-laptop> one at a time guys hee hee
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:41] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:42] <Mauricio> Welcome urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:43] <tyche> LOL
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:07] <xHans> urugTON: a DR site in Phoenix?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:32] <urugTON> disaster recovery, our data center does everything thing that a bank on the other side of the san andres(sp?) does, just in case . . .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:51] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:52] <johnc4510-laptop> nice
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:56] <tyche> Oh, My.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:06] <johnc4510-laptop> bet that involved at times
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:24] <sloggerkhan> cool
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:26] <urugTON> xHans: ya they' re pretty popular here with folks who have earth quakes, hurricanes and other local fun
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:45] Join [R] has joined this channel (n=rbox@unaffiliated/rbox).
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:49] <xHans> urugTON: so when do you want to do a presentation for PLUG? :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:54] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, we welcome our new folks and let them know that we're always here and you are free to hang out anytime, not just during meetings
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:01] <xHans> urugTON: and well they should be
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:06] <tyche> Sounds like the kind of company that should be named "Crash and Burn Recovery Center"
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:08] <johnc4510-laptop> feel free to ask questions etc
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:26] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, a couple of announcements from me
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:28] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:45] <johnc4510-laptop> even though Ubuntu just release Intrepid
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:50] <urugTON> good name - not popular in higher IT echelons however
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:02] <johnc4510-laptop> Jaunty jack the next version is now open for development
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:04] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:12] <johnc4510-laptop> so a new cycle starts
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:19] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:38] <johnc4510-laptop> there is a new app out there called "Ultamatix"
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:45] <johnc4510-laptop> it should be avoided
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:53] <SlickMcRunfast> just like auto?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:54] <johnc4510-laptop> it's a third party app
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:59] <johnc4510-laptop> SlickMcRunfast: yes
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:08] <johnc4510-laptop> it's a spinoff of automatix
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:10] <tyche> It's the successor to "Automatix".
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:15] <SlickMcRunfast> automatix messed my system up once
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:17] <johnc4510-laptop> and it's dangerous to use
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:17] <tyche> Which was a disaster.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:30] <johnc4510-laptop> the script uses a lot or root commands
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:41] <tyche> And Force flags
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:46] <johnc4510-laptop> and can leave your system dead or vulnerable
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:51] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: right thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:58] <johnc4510-laptop> so please avoid this app
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:11:01] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:11:39] <johnc4510-laptop> last wk we discussed my problems installing intrepid
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:11:57] <johnc4510-laptop> i'm happy to report that i have installed it on both boxes now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:08] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: are they listed on the updates page now?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:13] <johnc4510-laptop> i finally got the alt cd to work on the desktop box
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:40] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: ? is what listed
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:42] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:59] <tyche> The problems you had installing
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:10] <johnc4510-laptop> for the laptop i had to do a net upgrade, but it was flawless
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:12] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:35] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: your boot probs
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:40] <johnc4510-laptop> not yet, but i documented everything as i went and plan to update shortly
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:49] <johnc4510-laptop> to let devs know
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:57] <johnc4510-laptop> just haven't had time yet
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:00] <johnc4510-laptop> but will
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:01] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:11] <johnc4510-laptop> anyway it's working great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:22] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: "Boot failures on systems with Intel D945 motherboards"
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:23] <johnc4510-laptop> love several new things
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:26] <xHans> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:31] <xHans> about halfway down that page
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:32] <johnc4510-laptop> thx xHans
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:34] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:40] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, next
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:41] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:04] <johnc4510-laptop> this wk i received our shipit order of bulk cds from ubuntu
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:16] <johnc4510-laptop> this time instead of 400, we got 350
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:23] <johnc4510-laptop> the difference was
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:36] <johnc4510-laptop> we didn't get any 64bit desktop cds
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:40] <johnc4510-laptop> not sure why
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:57] <johnc4510-laptop> but i rechecked the wiki page and we got what we were suppose to
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:03] <johnc4510-laptop> if i had to guess
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:17] <johnc4510-laptop> it's economic related
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:26] <johnc4510-laptop> but we have our supply
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:27] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:02] <johnc4510-laptop> ok i'm going to let xHans give his announcements now before we get on to the installfest party
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:09] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: if you please
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:10] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:12] <xHans> ok
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:18] <xHans> PLUG east side this Thursday
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:26] <xHans> Anyone want to cover Intrepid features for us?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:50] <johnc4510-laptop> i have had no luck there xHans
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:51] <johnc4510-laptop> sorry
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:24] Join paul928_laptop has joined this channel (n=paul928_@unaffiliated/paul928).
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:31] * xHans sentences johnc4510-laptop to sharing a hotel room with tyche for some as yet unnamed conference ;-)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:35] <tyche> Morning, paul928_laptop
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:35] <johnc4510-laptop> paul928_laptop: welcome
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:43] <paul928_laptop> hello
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:45] <johnc4510-laptop> god, a fate worse than death
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:52] <johnc4510-laptop> please shoot me now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:58] <tyche> xHans: Why do you want to torture ME? Hee hee
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:09] <xHans> well, it looks like I will be covering Intrepid for our meeting this Thursday
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:15] <xHans> tyche: just because :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:19] <tyche> LOL
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:25] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:39] <xHans> if someone else wants to volunteer, please let me know
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:46] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:02] <xHans> in any case, please point people at the meeting where we'll go over Intrepid
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:12] <johnc4510-laptop> nods
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:12] <xHans> the Hackfest was moved to this Saturday at Estrella Mountain Community College
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:27] <Mauricio> xHans, can you tell me where is going to be the meeting?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:34] <xHans> still noon to 15:00ish, but a week late and on the other side of town
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:56] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: Mauricio is new to team and somewhat new to phoenix area
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:00] <xHans> Mauricio: the east side meeting? It's in Mesa near Stapley and the US 60
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:26] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yeah, just needed an extra reminder to realize that means he doesn't know where things are
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:35] <urugTON> Mauricio: http://plug.phoenix.az.us/
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:44] <Mauricio> Ok, thanks
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:00] <xHans> Mauricio: what urugTON said :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:15] <johnc4510-laptop> Mauricio: xHans is our local contact for the LUGs in AZ. we have been working with him to improve the working relations between the groups
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:16] <xHans> the meetings page has times, locations and links to maps
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:49] <xHans> the OpenOffice.org class is running again in January
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:56] <Mauricio> Sure, I am checking...thanks urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:23:09] <xHans> it's an online class and I'm pretty certain it's the same price for Pima county residents
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:23:38] <johnc4510-laptop> good teacher too
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:23:45] <xHans> Mauricio: we usually go from 19:00 to no later than 21:00 and then head to a local Bertos for food
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:24:03] <xHans> we need to make sure the OOo class gets filled again
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:24:16] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:24:54] <xHans> our Free Software classes at MCC are doing really well, but we need to keep filling them, especially new classes like OOo and especially non-OS classes like OOo, so let's fill it :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:01] <Mauricio> Thanks xHans
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:07] <xHans> it should be open for signing up
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:14] <johnc4510-laptop> great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:36] <xHans> now that the election is over, we will soon be opening work on the next ABLEconf
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:45] <johnc4510-laptop> cool
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:18] <johnc4510-laptop> you think we can get much done with the holidays coming up?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:28] <johnc4510-laptop> not that i'm resisting
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:29] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:38] <xHans> http://lists.ableconf.com/listinfo.cgi/discuss-ableconf.com
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:41] <tyche> We can get a start on it.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:48] <xHans> please join the discuss list if you want to participate
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:12] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: yeah, a bunch of things can be done now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:25] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:29] <johnc4510-laptop> i'm open
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:32] <johnc4510-laptop> and up for it
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:46] <xHans> ideally we'll run in late March
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:49] <xHans> cool
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:56] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:42] <johnc4510-laptop> for new folks ABLEconf is a opensource conference hosted by the state lugs and user groups and of course our group
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:43] <xHans> the Stammtische are in a week and a half
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:52] <xHans> www.ABLEconf.com
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:59] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:29:32] <xHans> http://www.LuftHans.com/Free_Software_Stammtisch
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:29:33] <Mauricio> Thanks I appreciate
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:29:56] <xHans> I think that's it from me
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:26] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: thx for all the great info on happening in the opensource world in AZ
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:29] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:33] <johnc4510-laptop> ok
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:38] <johnc4510-laptop> installfest
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:38] * slofgren is late
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:43] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: I'll pay attention in order to get InstallFest updates so we can coordinate the regular Installfest and the LoCo's release party/Installfest
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:53] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: hey
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:59] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: glad to participate
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:02] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:05] * slofgren waves
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:08] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:16] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: any news on the server?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:18] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:19] <xHans> slofgren: Hackfest is this coming Saturday and might almost be closer for you
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:26] <johnc4510-laptop> pushy tyche wants to know
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:28] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:34] <tyche> ROFL
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:44] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:50] * johnc4510-laptop hides
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:13] <slofgren> xHans: I am so glad it was delayed
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:13] <xHans> Mauricio: if you show up to PLUG please say hi
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:25] <xHans> same to you urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:28] <slofgren> I wil be working on the server all day tomorrow
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:35] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren: great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:36] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:37] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:41] <slofgren> I hope to have it working
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:51] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll tell tyche to ease off then
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:53] <xHans> slofgren: I'm not, but stuff happens
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:55] <slofgren> If not then...I suck
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:02] <johnc4510-laptop> nah
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:05] <johnc4510-laptop> you the man
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:06] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:12] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, installfestr
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:18] <johnc4510-laptop> is azteech around
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:19] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:27] <slofgren> xHans: is the move to a new location a positive thing?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:43] <johnc4510-laptop> he and i were talking and he is working on a demo for the installfest
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:04] <johnc4510-laptop> but since he's not around to report we'll have to table that till next wk
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:06] <xHans> slofgren: I think it'll bring less people from PLUG, but maybe it'll get more of Randy's students
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:11] <johnc4510-laptop> so
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:15] <johnc4510-laptop> times and locals
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:34] <johnc4510-laptop> i have emailed my contacts, but i haven't heard back yet
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:50] <xHans> johnc4510-laptop: talk to Zach and get the ASULUGgers to bring in their gaming systems
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:51] <johnc4510-laptop> i re-emailed and hope to have an answer by mon. or tues
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:56] <tyche> I've heard that one before, johnc4510-laptop
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:02] <johnc4510-laptop> xHans: that would be great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:10] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll be sure to ask him
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:17] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: sorry
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:21] <johnc4510-laptop> not my fault
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:43] <johnc4510-laptop> anyway
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:53] <johnc4510-laptop> i let them know the 7th of dec
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:00] <johnc4510-laptop> from 2-5
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:03] <johnc4510-laptop> pm
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:15] <johnc4510-laptop> we are all set on planning i think
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:25] <johnc4510-laptop> but we need the local and times for the flyers
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:48] <tyche> Yep
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:49] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: i promise, once i get the info, i'll give it too you
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:53] <tyche> Thanks
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:10] <tyche> And as soon as you do, I'll update the flier and put it back up on the Forum
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:15] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:36] <johnc4510-laptop> the game server would be a great thing to promote for the phoenix installfest i think
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:58] <johnc4510-laptop> and we'll promote the demos if azteech comes thru
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:08] <johnc4510-laptop> other than that, i
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:22] <johnc4510-laptop> am not sure what else we can do now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:22] <johnc4510-laptop> ??
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:24] <johnc4510-laptop> anyone
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:45] <tyche> johnc4510-laptop: You and I need to coordinate a way to get disks up here.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:45] <johnc4510-laptop> ok
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:52] <johnc4510-laptop> tyche: right
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:56] <johnc4510-laptop> good thinking
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:20] <tyche> That can be dealt with outside of the meeting, though.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:23] <johnc4510-laptop> i think with the price of gas, it will be cheapest to mail them
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:23] <johnc4510-laptop> ??
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:37] <tyche> Possibly. up to you.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:41] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:47] <tyche> I'll split the cost with you, if you like.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:20] <tyche> After all, I know that you're a starving accountant. Hee hee
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:36] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, well that's all i have tonight except to welcome the new guys again. Mauricio & urugTON thanks for coming, your welcome anytime and feel free to use the channel anytime
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:40] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:41] <johnc4510-laptop> thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:57] <johnc4510-laptop> ask any questions
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:03] <Mauricio> Sure, thanks to all
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:14] <johnc4510-laptop> use tyche for dart pratice or whatever
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:15] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:22] <johnc4510-laptop> Mauricio: great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:30] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, meeting adjourned then
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:31] <urugTON> nice meeting u folkd - head hurts tho - ABLEconf, PLUGs, cloaks . . .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:32] <johnc4510-laptop> thx to all
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[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:00:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, lets get going
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  for the new folks here tonight, Mauricio and urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  we usually have the new folks type a short line or 2 introducing yoursleves
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  so
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:01:55] <johnc4510-laptop>  Mauricio: could you tell us a little about you?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:02:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  nothing big
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:02:00] <Mauricio>  Sure
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:02:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:03:17] <Mauricio>  I am Mauricio Martinez, I come from Chihuahua, Mexico, I have almost 4 months at Phoenix, I am an IT Proffesional and have 6 months knowing Ubuntu
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:03:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:03:53] <tyche>     Welcome, Mauricio
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:01] <Mauricio>  Thanks
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  welcome to the team
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  always nice to have IT folks around
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, urugTON, how about you?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  a little info if you please
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:04:58] <urugTON>   degree in CS from 1970, worked on mainframes, PCs, servers, networks - currently i manage a DR site
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice, another pro
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:17] <sloggerkhan>       what's a DR site?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:21] <tyche>     If I may ask, what's a DR site?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  welcome to you too
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:30] <tyche>     And Welcome urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  one at a time guys   hee hee
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:42] <Mauricio>  Welcome urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:05:43] <tyche>     LOL
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:07] <xHans>     urugTON: a DR site in Phoenix?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:32] <urugTON>   disaster recovery, our data center does everything thing that a bank on the other side of the san andres(sp?) does, just in case . . .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:06:56] <tyche>     Oh, My.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  bet that involved at times
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:24] <sloggerkhan>       cool
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:26] <urugTON>   xHans: ya they' re pretty popular here with folks who have earth quakes, hurricanes and other local fun
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[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:49] <xHans>     urugTON: so when do you want to do a presentation for PLUG?  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:07:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, we welcome our new folks and let them know that we're always here and you are free to hang out anytime, not just during meetings
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:01] <xHans>     urugTON: and well they should be
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:06] <tyche>     Sounds like the kind of company that should be named "Crash and Burn Recovery Center"
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  feel free to ask questions etc
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, a couple of announcements from me
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  even though Ubuntu just release Intrepid
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:08:50] <urugTON>   good name - not popular in higher IT echelons however
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  Jaunty jack the next version is now open for development
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  so a new cycle starts
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  there is a new app out there called "Ultamatix"
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  it should be avoided
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:53] <SlickMcRunfast>    just like auto?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  it's a third party app
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:09:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  SlickMcRunfast: yes
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  it's a spinoff of automatix
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:10] <tyche>     It's the successor to "Automatix".
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:15] <SlickMcRunfast>    automatix messed my system up once
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  and it's dangerous to use
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:17] <tyche>     Which was a disaster.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  the script uses a lot or root commands
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:41] <tyche>     And Force flags
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  and can leave your system dead or vulnerable
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: right thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:10:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  so please avoid this app
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:11:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:11:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  last wk we discussed my problems installing intrepid
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:11:57] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm happy to report that i have installed it on both boxes now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:08] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: are they listed on the updates page now?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  i finally got the alt cd to work on the desktop box
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: ?   is what listed
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:12:59] <tyche>     The problems you had installing
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  for the laptop i had to do a net upgrade, but it was flawless
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:35] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: your boot probs
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  not yet, but i documented everything as i went and plan to update shortly
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  to let devs know
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:13:57] <johnc4510-laptop>  just haven't had time yet
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  but will
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  anyway it's working great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:22] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: "Boot failures on systems with Intel D945 motherboards"
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  love several new things
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:26] <xHans>     http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:31] <xHans>     about halfway down that page
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx xHans
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, next
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:14:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  this wk i received our shipit order of bulk cds from ubuntu
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  this time instead of 400, we got 350
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  the difference was
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  we didn't get any 64bit desktop cds
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  not sure why
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:15:57] <johnc4510-laptop>  but i rechecked the wiki page and we got what we were suppose to
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  if i had to guess
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  it's economic related
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  but we have our supply
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:16:27] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok i'm going to let xHans give his announcements now before we get on to the installfest party
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: if you please
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:12] <xHans>     ok
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:18] <xHans>     PLUG east side this Thursday
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:26] <xHans>     Anyone want to cover Intrepid features for us?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  i have had no luck there xHans
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:17:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  sorry
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[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:31]      * xHans sentences johnc4510-laptop to sharing a hotel room with tyche for some as yet unnamed conference ;-)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:35] <tyche>     Morning, paul928_laptop
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  paul928_laptop: welcome
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:43] <paul928_laptop>    hello
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  god, a fate worse than death
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  please shoot me now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:18:58] <tyche>     xHans: Why do you want to torture ME?  Hee hee
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:09] <xHans>     well, it looks like I will be covering Intrepid for our meeting this Thursday
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:15] <xHans>     tyche: just because :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:19] <tyche>     LOL
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:39] <xHans>     if someone else wants to volunteer, please let me know
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:19:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:02] <xHans>     in any case, please point people at the meeting where we'll go over Intrepid
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  nods
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:12] <xHans>     the Hackfest was moved to this Saturday at Estrella Mountain Community College
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:27] <Mauricio>  xHans, can you tell me where is going to be the meeting?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:34] <xHans>     still noon to 15:00ish, but a week late and on the other side of town
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:20:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: Mauricio is new to team and somewhat new to phoenix area
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:00] <xHans>     Mauricio: the east side meeting? It's in Mesa near Stapley and the US 60
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:26] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: yeah, just needed an extra reminder to realize that means he doesn't know where things are
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:35] <urugTON>   Mauricio: http://plug.phoenix.az.us/
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:21:44] <Mauricio>  Ok, thanks
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:00] <xHans>     Mauricio: what urugTON said :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  Mauricio: xHans is our local contact for the LUGs in AZ. we have been working with him to improve the working relations between the groups
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:16] <xHans>     the meetings page has times, locations and links to maps
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:49] <xHans>     the OpenOffice.org class is running again in January
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:22:56] <Mauricio>  Sure, I am checking...thanks urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:23:09] <xHans>     it's an online class and I'm pretty certain it's the same price for Pima county residents
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:23:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  good teacher too
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:23:45] <xHans>     Mauricio: we usually go from 19:00 to no later than 21:00 and then head to a local Bertos for food
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:24:03] <xHans>     we need to make sure the OOo class gets filled again
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:24:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:24:54] <xHans>     our Free Software classes at MCC are doing really well, but we need to keep filling them, especially new classes like OOo and especially non-OS classes like OOo, so let's fill it :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:01] <Mauricio>  Thanks xHans
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:07] <xHans>     it should be open for signing up
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:36] <xHans>     now that the election is over, we will soon be opening work on the next ABLEconf
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:25:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  cool
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  you think we can get much done with the holidays coming up?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  not that i'm resisting
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:38] <xHans>     http://lists.ableconf.com/listinfo.cgi/discuss-ableconf.com
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:41] <tyche>     We can get a start on it.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:26:48] <xHans>     please join the discuss list if you want to participate
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:12] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: yeah, a bunch of things can be done now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm open
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  and up for it
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:46] <xHans>     ideally we'll run in late March
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:49] <xHans>     cool
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:27:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  for new folks ABLEconf is a opensource conference hosted by the state lugs and user groups and of course our group
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:43] <xHans>     the Stammtische are in a week and a half
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:52] <xHans>     www.ABLEconf.com
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:28:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:29:32] <xHans>     http://www.LuftHans.com/Free_Software_Stammtisch
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:29:33] <Mauricio>  Thanks I appreciate
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:29:56] <xHans>     I think that's it from me
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: thx for all the great info on happening in the opensource world in AZ
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  installfest
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:38]      * slofgren is late
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:43] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: I'll pay attention in order to get InstallFest updates so we can coordinate the regular Installfest and the LoCo's release party/Installfest
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  slofgren: hey
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:30:59] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: glad to participate
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:05]      * slofgren waves
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  slofgren: any news on the server?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:19] <xHans>     slofgren: Hackfest is this coming Saturday and might almost be closer for you
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  pushy tyche wants to know
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:34] <tyche>     ROFL
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:31:50]      * johnc4510-laptop hides
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:13] <slofgren>  xHans: I am so glad it was delayed
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:13] <xHans>     Mauricio: if you show up to PLUG please say hi
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:25] <xHans>     same to you urugTON
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:28] <slofgren>  I wil be working on the server all day tomorrow
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  slofgren: great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:41] <slofgren>  I hope to have it working
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'll tell tyche to ease off then
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:53] <xHans>     slofgren: I'm not, but stuff happens
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:32:55] <slofgren>  If not then...I suck
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  nah
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  you the man
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, installfestr
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  is azteech around
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  ?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:27] <slofgren>  xHans: is the move to a new location a positive thing?
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:33:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  he and i were talking and he is working on a demo for the installfest
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  but since he's not around to report we'll have to table that till next wk
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:06] <xHans>     slofgren: I think it'll bring less people from PLUG, but maybe it'll get more of Randy's students
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  so
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  times and locals
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  i have emailed my contacts, but i haven't heard back yet
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:50] <xHans>     johnc4510-laptop: talk to Zach and get the ASULUGgers to bring in their gaming systems
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  i re-emailed and hope to have an answer by mon. or tues
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:34:56] <tyche>     I've heard that one before, johnc4510-laptop
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  xHans: that would be great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'll be sure to ask him
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: sorry
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:21] <johnc4510-laptop>  not my fault
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  anyway
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:35:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  i let them know the 7th of dec
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  from 2-5
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:03] <johnc4510-laptop>  pm
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  we are all set on planning i think
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  but we need the local and times for the flyers
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:48] <tyche>     Yep
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: i promise, once i get the info, i'll give it too you
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:36:53] <tyche>     Thanks
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:10] <tyche>     And as soon as you do, I'll update the flier and put it back up on the Forum
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  the game server would be a great thing to promote for the phoenix installfest i think
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:37:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  and we'll promote the demos if azteech comes thru
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  other than that, i
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  am not sure what else we can do now
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  ??
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  anyone
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:45] <tyche>     johnc4510-laptop: You and I need to coordinate a way to get disks up here.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: right
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:38:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  good thinking
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:20] <tyche>     That can be dealt with outside of the meeting, though.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  i think with the price of gas, it will be cheapest to mail them
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  ??
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:37] <tyche>     Possibly.  up to you.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:39:47] <tyche>     I'll split the cost with you, if you like.
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:20] <tyche>     After all, I know that you're a starving accountant.  Hee hee
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, well that's all i have tonight except to welcome the new guys again. Mauricio & urugTON thanks for coming, your welcome anytime and feel free to use the channel anytime
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:40:57] <johnc4510-laptop>  ask any questions
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:03] <Mauricio>  Sure, thanks to all
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  use tyche for dart pratice or whatever
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  Mauricio: great
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, meeting adjourned then
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:31] <urugTON>   nice meeting u folkd - head hurts tho - ABLEconf, PLUGs, cloaks  . . .
[Sun Nov 9 2008] [21:41:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx to all


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