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  1. Introductions
  2. Announcements
  3. TBA
  4. TBA
  5. TBA
  6. Agenda for next week

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Feb 13 21:00:46 toddc Welcome to AZLOCO IRC Meeting Please sign in with a +1

Feb 13 21:00:57 toddc +1

Feb 13 21:01:04 kennymc0 +1.142367

Feb 13 21:01:07 kennymc0 :)

Feb 13 21:01:08 LostPenguin +1

Feb 13 21:01:22 toddc Our Team leader is johnc 4510 but he is unavailable for a while so I am filling in on nights when I am available.

Feb 13 21:01:38 toddc If any one else would like to help and fill in or take over or??? please step up we are behind on the web page, launchpad and should be doing more events/ party's

Feb 13 21:01:52 toddc any new news to bring up?

Feb 13 21:02:06 toddc our launch pad site

Feb 13 21:02:08 toddc https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arizona

Feb 13 21:02:09 toddc our web site is azloco.com

Feb 13 21:02:18 kennymc0 if anyone would like to work on the site and needs access or has questions i can help with that when i have time

Feb 13 21:02:34 toddc anyone here new tonight please introduce yourself  and tell us a little about yourself?

Feb 13 21:03:23 toddc I think I have some access but no Idea how to do any if it

Feb 13 21:03:55 LostPenguin who has aqccess to the topic?

Feb 13 21:04:02 toddc if you have time I am willing to learn

Feb 13 21:04:05 LostPenguin for the chanel I mean

Feb 13 21:04:25 kennymc0 anyone who has ops would have access to the topic

Feb 13 21:04:35 kennymc0 i believe scott_ev can change it

Feb 13 21:04:47 toddc scott_ev will be updating but is out sickATM

Feb 13 21:05:06 toddc here is new news from ubuntu news

Feb 13 21:05:16 toddc ubuntu 11.04 Drops release candidate

Feb 13 21:05:33 toddc http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-11.04-Drops-Release-Candidate

Feb 13 21:05:52 toddc PC PRO to run on ubuntu

Feb 13 21:05:57 toddc http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/09/can-we-run-pc-pro-on-ubuntu/

Feb 13 21:06:10 toddc Install iTunes on Ubuntu

Feb 13 21:06:22 toddc http://linuxkommando.com/2011/02/install-itunes-on-ubuntu.html

Feb 13 21:06:33 toddc Ubuntu One: Ubuntu's cloud platform and its benefits explained

Feb 13 21:06:44 toddc http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2011/02/5-new-features-in-ubuntu-1104.html

Feb 13 21:06:55 toddc Set Up Your Own Ubuntu Repository using apt-mirror

Feb 13 21:07:05 toddc http://www.ajatus.in/2011/02/set-up-your-own-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror/

Feb 13 21:07:15 toddc 5 New Features in Ubuntu 11.04

Feb 13 21:07:23 toddc http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=7041

Feb 13 21:07:37 toddc Are there any interests in doing any other group projects--installfests or server projects?

Feb 13 21:07:55 toddc east side free software Stammtisch Tuesday at Iguana Macks 7:00PM

Feb 13 21:08:07 toddc west side free software Stammtisch Thursday at Sals Tusan Grill 7:00PM

Feb 13 21:08:16 toddc team hack-fest Saturday at 12:00 noon at Gangplank in chandler

Feb 13 21:08:30 toddc he last installfest had a great showing and a lot of new users showed up for installs and help

Feb 13 21:08:31 toddc we even put Mr. Wong from MS to work which lead to interesting conversations

Feb 13 21:08:49 toddc The last several installfests have been very busy so if you have time or want to meet any of us or have problems feel free to show up.

Feb 13 21:09:17 toddc Installfests are last Saturday of the month at UAT 48st and baseline in Tempe right off the I10 and across from Fry's electronics from 10am to 4pm

Feb 13 21:09:19 LostPenguin so no one hre from tucson that goes to those?

Feb 13 21:10:39 toddc john used to come up and we used to do one at UOA but we need a local person to make arrangements--local contact interested?

Feb 13 21:10:59 xHans toddc: thanks for getting the PLUG events as well!

Feb 13 21:11:12 LostPenguin only place I can probably set up is the Arivaca library

Feb 13 21:11:30 toddc we have several people that would drive down to help with a event

Feb 13 21:11:35 LostPenguin I do not live in tucson, but it is the clocest city to me

Feb 13 21:12:27 toddc UofA has hosted us before and I can get contacts there and a lot of students came to the last event

Feb 13 21:12:56 toddc they use ubuntu on all of there servers and recommend ubuntu desktops

Feb 13 21:13:13 kennymc0 cool

Feb 13 21:13:30 LostPenguin if you could get some of their contact info, please let me know so I can try and bum a ride

Feb 13 21:14:07 toddc I only recommend them since I know them and it would draw a large crowd

Feb 13 21:14:56 toddc give me a couple of days and I will get you the contacts name and numbers

Feb 13 21:15:22 LostPenguin thanks, it's the only way I'll ever get to go

Feb 13 21:15:26 toddc then we can set up a date and time

Feb 13 21:15:47 toddc last one drew around 30

Feb 13 21:16:16 toddc xHans if you are here do you have any news for us?

Feb 13 21:18:17 xHans toddc: you already did a great job covering them

Feb 13 21:18:35 xHans hmm, guess I could add some URLs

Feb 13 21:18:40 xHans http://www.LuftHans.com/Free_Software_Stammtisch#East_Valley

Feb 13 21:18:44 xHans http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/hackfest

Feb 13 21:18:44 toddc I was not sure if you could make it tonight

Feb 13 21:18:48 xHans http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/node/218

Feb 13 21:18:56 xHans I should not have :)

Feb 13 21:21:36 toddc Thanks xHans

Feb 13 21:21:52 toddc if there is nothing else?

Feb 13 21:22:04 toddc Thank you for coming here this evening and have a great week!

Feb 13 21:22:18 LostPenguin thanks, I'll be around

Feb 13 21:22:20 kennymc0 you to

Feb 13 21:22:49 toddc I will also talk to plug and see if they can help with a Tucson installfest

Feb 13 21:23:30 LostPenguin I can hich hike to tucson, but I don't know anyone there naymore

Feb 13 21:24:32 toddc we just need wifi or network access to hold a installfest I have a small server with distros to burn as we may need them

Feb 13 21:24:35 xHans maybe an Arizona BoF at SCaLE again this year to find Tucsonians

Feb 13 21:26:10 toddc and will dig out my contact notes for UofA and maybe we can contact john4510 he may be able to help there also

Feb 13 21:26:30 LostPenguin Pima college, U of A and Tucson/Pima library will all probably be ok

Feb 13 21:28:14 toddc when I did tempe city we made flyers and spent a afternoon posting them around at library's

Feb 13 21:29:13 LostPenguin I can probably hitch hike up there, spend the day doing flyers, night in a wash, and hitchhike back

Feb 13 21:29:35 LostPenguin but I would need money for flyers and bus fare

Feb 13 21:31:27 toddc most library's and collages are happy to make room for this type of event --I should be able to make them I have a few templates and could mail them and maybe find someone to distribute them I know a few students there

Feb 13 21:31:45 toddc make the flyers

Feb 13 21:32:54 LostPenguin that would be better, I hate speeleing outside lol

Feb 13 21:33:06 LostPenguin sleeping*

Feb 13 21:34:16 toddc np if you make the calls I can do some  of the legwork

Feb 13 21:35:58 LostPenguin calls to who?  wherever we're gonna set up?

Feb 13 21:38:45 toddc yes I had some ITdept contacts at uoa that will find us a room and internet and put it in uni newsletter ifI can find it it will make setting up a event easy

Feb 13 21:40:00 toddc they alreay use ubuntu and want the students to use it and were really helpful and thanked us last time

Feb 13 21:40:30 LostPenguin And that was through IT or some club they had on campus?

Feb 13 21:41:39 toddc IT dept set it up then posted it in the newsletter and told the IT classes about the event

Feb 13 21:42:27 LostPenguin That should be a lot easier to track down over web/phone than a club

Feb 13 21:42:53 toddc we had students that already knew how to install helping those that wanted to learn and we just guided the whole thing

Feb 13 21:43:25 LostPenguin IDC what I have to do as long as I can get my DVB-s card running --;

Feb 13 21:44:12 LostPenguin I'm gonna look pretty silly walking around with a dish lol

Feb 13 21:44:49 toddc have you made a post in the ubuntu forum about that?

Feb 13 21:45:16 LostPenguin I have neer found forums helpful

Feb 13 21:45:20 LostPenguin never*

Feb 13 21:45:37 LostPenguin forums or ee-mail lists

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Feb 13 21:46:50 LostPenguin IRC and google are the only thngs that have ever helped me

Feb 13 21:47:30 toddc that would be the most likely place I can think of to find someone that knows that info but it would take some time to get a reply

Feb 13 21:49:11 LostPenguin seriosly, every forum I have ver posted on for anything has never helped me, I don't even bother any more.

Feb 13 21:49:19 soldats LostPenguin: are you trying to run mythtv or something

Feb 13 21:49:34 toddc that is a area that most techs do not deal with all the IT server guys I know work mostly in data centers with fiber but there must be someone that that uses SAT for remote connections

Feb 13 21:50:05 LostPenguin I'm trying to get my card to be recognised by linux, but the drivers I got from my hw provider are chinese crap that installed to the wrong place

Feb 13 21:50:40 soldats ahh

Feb 13 21:50:55 soldats ive never used one

Feb 13 21:51:02 soldats cant be much help sorry

Feb 13 21:51:04 LostPenguin meanwhile, their support department is taking the month off for the lunar new year

Feb 13 21:51:11 soldats haha

Feb 13 21:51:44 xHans don't know what DVB-s is, but look at kernel documentation for driver info

Feb 13 21:52:03 xHans it's a bit of a pain, but if the kernel has support for the device it should be in the kernel docs

Feb 13 21:52:23 LostPenguin http://www.mygica.com/down-eng/linuxforsatboxmini.zip

Feb 13 21:52:26 soldats mythtv apparently supports it

Feb 13 21:52:57 LostPenguin DVB-S is a fancy way of saying Sat TV

Feb 13 21:53:13 xHans as to installing on the wrong place, try soft links

Feb 13 21:53:27 xHans ah, don't watch TV, so I still don't know :)

Feb 13 21:53:45 xHans but, a grep through the kernel docs might pull up something useful for you

Feb 13 21:53:47 LostPenguin the problem is that if I use the stuff they have, I would lose all my USB support

Feb 13 21:54:25 LostPenguin I've been trying for weeks, nothing make any scence

Feb 13 21:54:36 LostPenguin I had it up and running in 2 seconds on windows --;

Feb 13 21:55:23 LostPenguin I tried kernel.org

Feb 13 21:55:31 LostPenguin and other variants

Feb 13 21:56:13 xHans LostPenguin: there is a kernel doc package

Feb 13 21:57:24 LostPenguin I have read lots of kernel docs, can you be more specific?

Feb 13 21:57:39 xHans nope, not really

Feb 13 21:57:57 soldats what type of card is it

Feb 13 21:58:03 xHans the kernel docs package puts a bunch of kernel documentation in one directory and below

Feb 13 21:58:13 xHans a recursive grep in that directory might pull up something

Feb 13 21:58:27 LostPenguin mygica satbox mini

Feb 13 21:58:36 xHans e.g. grep -ri dvb-s /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc/

Feb 13 21:59:12 LostPenguin I tried to read that, went over my head

Feb 13 21:59:38 * slfdstrct_ (~chatzilla@ip72-201-240-84.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #Ubuntu-US-AZ

Feb 13 22:00:18 xHans LostPenguin: if you can find relevant documentation we might be able to provide a translation

Feb 13 22:00:35 LostPenguin http://www.mygica.com/down-eng/linuxforsatboxmini.zip

Feb 13 22:00:40 LostPenguin that's the bad drivers

Feb 13 22:01:50 LostPenguin I can plug it in and tell you the hwid once I'm done in FFXI

Feb 13 22:06:58 LostPenguin 1f4d:2000

Feb 13 22:08:17 LostPenguin the driver it might be using is dvb-usb-cxusb

Feb 13 22:10:45 xHans looks like the Germans have been having problems with that device since at least 2007

Feb 13 22:11:13 soldats yup

Feb 13 22:11:22 soldats just saw a post about htat

Feb 13 22:11:28 soldats that

Feb 13 22:11:45 soldats http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/dvb-s-satbox-mini-auf-ubuntu/#post-2774126

Feb 13 22:11:50 soldats translate that

Feb 13 22:11:52 xHans http://www.vdrportal.de/board/thread.php?postid=922113

Feb 13 22:12:27 xHans the second poster there, Markus, says he got his working with the driver from Igor Liplianin, but the USB-ID had to be added

Feb 13 22:12:41 xHans the big box shows the change to add the USB-ID

Feb 13 22:12:59 soldats different cards though

Feb 13 22:13:18 LostPenguin that's 3000, not 2000, and it's S2 not S

Feb 13 22:13:22 soldats LostPenguin: how did you instll the drivers

Feb 13 22:13:31 LostPenguin sudo make install

Feb 13 22:13:45 LostPenguin puts it all in an old ass kernal directory

Feb 13 22:13:52 xHans ah, I was searching for the id, but didn't notice there was a change

Feb 13 22:14:01 xHans maybe Igor has a driver for your card as well

Feb 13 22:14:18 soldats LostPenguin: what does the makefile say

Feb 13 22:15:55 soldats LostPenguin: try running "make" instead of "make install"

Feb 13 22:16:09 soldats i havent read the README or Makefile

Feb 13 22:16:21 soldats should give some good clue

Feb 13 22:16:56 soldats also take a look at the link i posted, you need to google translate it or however you want to translate it

Feb 13 22:17:07 soldats it says unsolved but its recent

Feb 13 22:17:11 LostPenguin sudo make clean and sudo make do not work

Feb 13 22:17:32 LostPenguin I did look at it, it is not for my device

Feb 13 22:18:46 * SlickMcRunFast (~mark@host-86-116.aztegmo.clients.pavlovmedia.com) has joined #Ubuntu-US-AZ

Feb 13 22:24:22 LostPenguin but I can tell from that post I need tood code to compile and I 'm not going to get the device IDs I need associated without recompiling the kernel

Feb 13 22:24:48 LostPenguin so I'm fucked

Feb 13 22:28:47 soldats recompile the kernel then

Feb 13 22:28:54 soldats its pretty easy

Feb 13 22:29:02 LostPenguin I don;t have the soruce  need for my device

Feb 13 22:29:20 soldats ahh

Feb 13 22:29:31 soldats hope you get it figgured out son

Feb 13 22:29:56 LostPenguin no, it's not going to happen.  It's going to be the reason I give up on linux

Feb 13 22:30:14 soldats weak

Feb 13 22:30:23 soldats dual boot with windows

Feb 13 22:30:29 soldats and use it in windows

Feb 13 22:31:02 LostPenguin RQCS won't use anything but serial ports under windows

Feb 13 22:31:20 * sloggerkhan (~slogger@ip68-104-215-102.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #Ubuntu-US-AZ

Feb 13 22:31:43 soldats IMO it doesnt justify giving up on linux as a whole

Feb 13 22:31:54 sloggerkhan hi

Feb 13 22:31:56 soldats just me though

Feb 13 22:32:02 soldats hey

Feb 13 22:32:19 LostPenguin it's the same problem I was having 10 yeas ago, if your device isn;t already in the kernel, it can't be se

Feb 13 22:32:22 LostPenguin used*

Feb 13 22:32:58 soldats wait it out, you cant always rush the devs

Feb 13 22:33:26 sloggerkhan what's not working?

Feb 13 22:33:29 soldats it will eventually be if enough people are requesting it

Feb 13 22:33:48 soldats sat tv

Feb 13 22:33:51 xHans LostPenguin: so only buy devices that have support

Feb 13 22:34:01 soldats ^^^

Feb 13 22:34:07 soldats google first

Feb 13 22:34:08 LostPenguin people are requesting it, but the advice they're getting is "get a new device supported by linux"

Feb 13 22:34:34 soldats words of the wise

Feb 13 22:34:43 soldats unless youre a dev

Feb 13 22:34:48 sloggerkhan Sat TV? As in what, a satellite dish controller?

Feb 13 22:34:53 LostPenguin this is something I've been working on for weeks, I've gooled to the point where I don;t know what to google any more

Feb 13 22:35:02 LostPenguin yeah, DVB-S

Feb 13 22:35:29 sloggerkhan Did you know you can buy a satellite for under $15,000 and launch it for under $100 grand?

Feb 13 22:35:49 soldats i wish i had the money

Feb 13 22:35:50 sloggerkhan Instead of a luxury car you could get your own satellite!

Feb 13 22:35:57 sloggerkhan Yeah.

Feb 13 22:36:10 LostPenguin I don't even have a car let alone luxory --;

Feb 13 22:36:19 sloggerkhan I don't know anything about DVB-S, though. I'd never hear of it until just now.

Feb 13 22:36:27 soldats i only have a bicycle

Feb 13 22:36:46 LostPenguin <-- Golf Cart

Feb 13 22:36:55 SlickMcRunFast how was the meeting tonight?

Feb 13 22:36:56 soldats ha

Feb 13 22:37:10 soldats 30 min

Feb 13 22:37:12 LostPenguin un-eventful

Feb 13 22:52:44 xHans http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_USB_Devices

Feb 13 22:53:48 xHans LostPenguin: is this what you have? http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_S_USB

Feb 13 22:54:08 xHans ah, no, different USB ID

Feb 13 22:54:46 LostPenguin yeah, different ID

Feb 13 22:55:28 xHans looks like there are a few devices that are supported with a couple already in the kernel

Feb 13 22:56:33 LostPenguin yeah, the bad compile makes a dvb-usb-cxusb that might be compatible with the one in the kernel

Feb 13 22:56:48 xHans one is even advertising GNU/Linux support

Feb 13 22:56:52 xHans http://www.worlddvb.com.cn/product/htm/usbs.htm

Feb 13 22:58:51 LostPenguin http://www.mygica.com/pa/satboxmini.asp

Feb 13 22:58:54 LostPenguin http://www.mygica.com/pa/satboxmini.asp

Feb 13 22:59:03 LostPenguin akk

Feb 13 22:59:57 LostPenguin Linux driver available, Android 2.2 driver coming soon !

Feb 13 23:00:01 LostPenguin bullshit...

Feb 13 23:00:10 xHans http://www.mygica.com/pa/satboxmini.asp

Feb 13 23:00:24 xHans $63.16 and no cost shipping

Feb 13 23:00:43 xHans well, if the Linux group says there's support, that should be trustable

Feb 13 23:00:49 LostPenguin thta is what I have

Feb 13 23:00:54 xHans http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/385103260-DVBWorld-DVB-S-2102-USB2-0-Free-Shipping-wholesalers.html

Feb 13 23:00:59 xHans bah, bad paste :)

Feb 13 23:01:06 LostPenguin I can not afford to buy another tuner

Feb 13 23:01:54 xHans can you return the one you have in order to buy one that works?

Feb 13 23:02:00 LostPenguin no

Feb 13 23:02:04 fuzzyvader ^

Feb 13 23:02:25 LostPenguin I already asked

Feb 13 23:03:03 fuzzyvader (sorry wrong box)

Feb 13 23:03:17 * fuzzyvader goes back to lurking

Feb 13 23:15:52 * SlickMcRunFast has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

Feb 13 23:19:05 * soldats spots a lurker

Feb 13 23:19:17 soldats then lurks

Feb 13 23:24:01 LostPenguin I'm out, night all

Feb 13 23:24:05 * LostPenguin has quit ()

Feb 14 00:11:44 toddc night all 


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