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   1 Ubuntu AustralianTeam Meeting Summary
   2 Tuesday March 21st, 2006
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   4 Members Present
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   6 bimberi
   7 ctd
   8 covox
   9 elkbuntu
  10 Fujitsu
  11 jellyware
  12 Kamping_Kaiser
  13 manicka
  14 matthewv
  15 MistaED
  16 ndazza
  17 paul_2340
  18 Phlosten
  19 praetorian
  20 rob
  21 YukiCuss
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  23 If I have missed anyone please let me know. (andrew 'at' swinndesign.com)
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  26 INTRODUCTION
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  28 Welcome to the first meeting of AustralianTeam.
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  30 ===================
  31 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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  33 Changing to fortnight meetings instead of weekly meetings.
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  35 COMMENTS
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  37 Weekly meetings seem a bit excesive.
  38 Weekly meetings would be too much of a commitment to attend.
  39 Working with a fortnightly schedule would bring us inline with other Ubuntu teams.
  40 We should try out weekly meetings.
  41 Is there a need for weekly meetings? Will there be enough ideas for discussion in future?
  42 Some members may not attend every meeting if weekly meetings were the case.
  43 A few members suggested weekly meetings would be a good idea.
  44 A few members would be fine with either.
  45 A social meeting in between formal meetings might be a good idea.
  46 Use of the mailing list for people who cannot make the meetings.
  47 Fortnighly meetings would allow for fortnight of ideas.
  48 A dual listing on the main Presentations Wiki page would be encouraged.
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  50 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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  52 If was decided that fortnightly meetings were the more favourable idea.
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  56 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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  58 Addition of a 'Talks' section to the Wiki.
  59 This would list talks given by members of the team throughout the year.
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  61 COMMENTS
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  63 This would encourage members to give talks at local Linux user group meetings.
  64 It would help develop marketing initiatives.
  65 There are a couple of presentations on the Ubuntu website already.
  66 If people have content to put there then it would be a good idea.
  67 We should make an effort to get along to some of the talks.
  68 Would be nice to see what was being developed for Ubuntu in Australia.
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  70 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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  72 Members in favour of this section being added.
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  76 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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  78 Official LoCo Team confirmation.
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  80 COMMENTS
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  82 We are on the agenda for the next CommunityCouncil meeting.
  83 Mathias Ulrichs has been emailed regarding it.
  84 There is serious organisation and interest in an Australian LoCo team.
  85 Still waiting on official date/time for meeting. Fujitsu and YukiCuss are monitoring the webpage 
  86 for this information, so someone can be present at the meeting.
  87 Becoming official would be right due to current numbers of members.
  88 Would be good to have more projects as examples of our work.
  89 Maybe becoming official would be a bit soon, what is the criteria for acceptance?
  90 General feeling that acceptance wont be difficult.
  91 Being an active group would be enough for acceptance.
  92 If we are not accepted we should be advised why and what we can do to make it official.
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  94 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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  96 To be followed up at CommunityCouncil and steps taken to make group official.
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 100 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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 102 Develop Schools project
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 104 COMMENTS
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 106 Promoting Ubuntu to schools would be a good project idea.
 107 Fujistsu and YukiCuss are already looking into this area.
 108 The Linux Australia list has already had big discussion on a Schools project.
 109 A schools project would be a good idea for a few keen members.
 110 Need to work out what the project is aiming to achieve.
 111 Project could look at Ubuntu in school contracts.
 112 There is some close member association with teachers that would help this project.
 113 General aim is to get Ubuntu into schools.
 114 Suggestion that NSW school system is a closed shop, being contracted to Microsoft etc.
 115 A seperate page should be created for this project.
 116 A good demonstration system should be first step. Fujitsu and Yukicuss have been developing this for some time.
 117 Edubuntu would be good to look into.
 118 YukiCuss and Fujistsu have previously set up a Breezy LTSP server to boot a computer room from.
 119 YukiCuss and Fujistsu are looking at moving some services to Dapper in the near future.
 120 Perhaps the project should not aim to change too much instially. Concentrate on smaller introduction of Ubuntu.
 121 We should think about the concept of small networks and figure out exactly what 'playing' around with Ubuntu would entail.
 122 There should be room to allow a small collection of computers in schools to run non-Microsoft software.
 123 Convincing schools to setup one or two computers at first might be a good idea.
 124 The programming utilities in Ubuntu might be good for programming classes. Apache for web developing.
 125 Another idea is looking into open source library management systems.
 126 High schools might be the first to look at. Primary schools would be an entirely different and harder target.
 127 Handing out CD's to school is another idea.
 128 There are many schools with Apple machines which Ubuntu will be compatible with.
 129 Machine compatibility is a good selling point.
 130 Is the priority to get more students working with Linux/Ubuntu or providing a replacement for the Microsoft set of tools.
 131 Hook primary students into Linux while they are young.
 132 Replacing Windows may not be the best primary task.
 133 We need to offer a system that is easier for the school to manage.
 134 Schools also have non-Microsoft software that they use for various tasks that have had large amounts of money invested in them.
 135 We should start with simple ideas.
 136 Microsoft offer very good deals to schools these days.
 137 We could try distributing Ubuntu cd's through schools.
 138 Two angles of attack -  demonstration and small numbers of PC's, and open source software for Windows.
 139 It'll be hard to push FOSS into schools, at least to start with.
 140 If they spent their money on hardware instead of software they could provide a better computing environment.
 141 Demonstrate the power of FOSS along side managability of an actual network with demonstration, educate the schools about the benefits, and also about what they could expect to realistically lose.
 142 We should start a project Wiki to build on this discussion.
 143 Windows is the main desktop out there and people need experience with it when entering workforce.
 144 Apple schools like what they have already.
 145 Reference to schools in Taipei switching to open source linux systems for teaching.
 146 Switching to Ubuntu might be good realisitic goal for the future.
 147 The 'real world' after school needs to be considered.
 148 There is significant educational software that only runs under Windows.
 149 Holiday classes for students could be looked at.
 150 Should aim to replace servers in schools.
 151 Replacing Windows should be a long term goal.
 152 Some Windows titles could be tested under Wine.
 153 There are companies working on Linux only environments.
 154 Maybe we can nominate some leaders for these projects?
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 156 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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 158 We need to develop a project page with these ideas. To start small and develop on these 
 159 ideas later. No leaders for now, with anyone interested in helping out able to develop with this project. Having project leaders might be a bit non-Ubuntu.
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 163 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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 165 Business Project
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 167 COMMENTS
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 169 There are currently member(s) in the group with MBA experience who would be able to develop a Business Project.
 170 A lot of members in favour of a Business Project.
 171 A lot of members could contribute to this project.
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 173 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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 175 A Business Project should be created along with the Schools Project.
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 179 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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 181 Marketing Project
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 183 COMMENTS
 184 
 185 Could we make Marketing a seperate project?
 186 We need to discuss how to present ourselves to the public.
 187 Marketing could be develped throught the Business and Schools Projects.
 188 We could do trade shows and Linux user goup meetings.
 189 There have already been install fests with Ubuntu.
 190 A girls of Ubuntu calender (Maybe not?).
 191 A third project of Home User Marketing would be a good idea.
 192 A boys of Ubuntu calender (?)
 193 Marketing would round off a neat three projects to concentrate on.
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 195 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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 197 We should develop a third project looking at Home User Marketing that would also build marketing for the Schools and Business Projects.
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 201 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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 203 CD Distribution
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 205 COMMENTS
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 207 We need ShipIt to send a few hundred CD's to us.
 208 ndazza had previously organised 500 for a lug without hassles.
 209 We need to organise copies of the Dapper CD's as soon as they are released.
 210 Can we pre-order Dapper? Maybe a month before?
 211 If we can get copies early we can distribute with teh 'buzz'.
 212 We should discuss numbers of cd's we require. Further discussion needed.
 213 CD's should be ordered in good shipping quanities to ensure safe arrival. (Lots of 50)
 214 Maybe ordering x64 format cd's might deter users due to restricted format abilities.
 215 Official CD's are much better than home burnt versions. Not 'dodgy' looking.
 216 It can be discussed at next Community Council meeting.
 217 Maybe we can pre-organise things with a ShipIt contact?
 218 Have cd's posted through contact in ShipIt at no cost.
 219 Contact jdud about CD numbers
 220 Members can distribute to following areas. elkbuntu - albury/wodonga (hume/riverina), bustacap - brisbane, other areas to be worked out further.
 221 Can we start an initiative to promote in Perth/WA?
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 223 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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 225 CD numbers and distribution areas need to be discussed in more detail. Method of getting early copies of Dapper need to be worked out.
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 229 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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 231 Do we need a Website/Forum?
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 233 COMMENTS
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 235 Canonical is getting us a domain.
 236 What is happening with ubuntu.com.au? Still being chased up (YukiCuss).
 237 Maybe a blog type page with our goings on.
 238 Fujitsu waiting on reply about hosting.
 239 Everything we need could be wiki'd
 240 ubuntu.com.au would be more 'uniform'.
 241 Wiki might not be ideal format for information dissemination.
 242 Would need to be commercial entity to get .com.au, also need ABN.
 243 What about .net.au?
 244 ubuntu.com.au is owned by 'solutions first' 
 245 Maybe cononical could buy the domain.
 246 We might look at getting registered as some sort of official organisation.
 247 We could look at ways to get domain off 'solutions first'.
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 249 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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 251 Domain name and hosting still needs more information, and the forum is not yet needed. Postponed until further meetings.
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 255 TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
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 257 Logo for AustralianTeam.
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 259 COMMENTS
 260 
 261 Fujitsu has done a great job on current logo ideas.
 262 Three logo suggestions listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/.
 263 General request for members to choose their preferred logo.
 264 Logo with 'kangaroo' may have copyright concerns.
 265 General liking of second logo with larger stars.
 266 Lots of discussion of various other ways of doing the logo.
 267 Maybe selection of logo should be deferred until further meetings to allow time to develop further.
 268 Any suggestions can be messaged/emailed to Fujistu.
 269 Design could be taken to Community Council to ask.
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 271 GENERAL CONSENSUS
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 273 No clear favourite. Designs need to be further developed and will be discussed at next meeting.
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 276 =================
 277 Conclusion Of Meeting, Next Meeting At 20:00 AEST Tuesday April 4.
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 280 Any questions, or comments regarding these notes, please email me 'andrew 'at' swinndesign.com'.