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   1 13:46:35  <elkbuntu> ok... we ready?
   2 13:46:44  <Kamping_Kaiser> henno, quite likely. i'm still looking for su though. its the principle  of finding both :)
   3 13:46:46  <harrisony> yep
   4 13:46:48  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, sorta
   5 13:47:00  <Melchiorre> elkbuntu: yup
   6 13:47:10  <harrisony> me and Cyvros vented some sillyness so were ready\
   7 13:47:21  <Cyvros> harrisony: Treu, true.
   8 13:47:38  <harrisony> i still got some more
   9 13:47:58  <Cyvros> I think we need to get back to the room, bud.
  10 13:48:03  <harrisony> ok, ready
  11 13:48:15  <Cyvros> Not quite.
  12 13:48:18  <Cyvros> Almost there...
  13 13:48:19  * elkbuntu waits for the wiki page to load incase there's something on there
  14 13:48:26  <Cyvros> Ahhhhh...
  15 13:48:29  <Cyvros> Yeah, I'm done.
  16 13:48:51  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, i suppose 'wtfs gone wrong withour meetings' and 'what time for meetings' feature in the 'add to' incase tis blank
  17 13:49:13  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, was just typing that
  18 13:49:52  <harrisony> Melchior: any time i always have some in there
  19 13:49:53  <elkbuntu> basically, what is wrong with the meetings is that they got changed to a day on which my favourite TV show is on, and hence i often forget to show up and nobody else takes over
  20 13:50:19  <siccness> What TV show?
  21 13:50:22  <harrisony> elkbuntu: what was on
  22 13:50:25  <elkbuntu> siccness, NCIS
  23 13:50:31  <siccness> I saw that
  24 13:50:54  <elkbuntu> can anyone else offer reasoning?
  25 13:51:04  <elkbuntu> or is it pretty much accurate?
  26 13:51:12  <pschulz01> Evening.
  27 13:51:18  <Kamping_Kaiser> in part i agree, i also think it never 'got going' after lca though
  28 13:51:19  <harrisony> can you wait 2 secs i need to go too the toilet!!!
  29 13:51:23  <Kamping_Kaiser> ironically.
  30 13:51:56  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, that could be explained by the fact we changed the time right after LCA
  31 13:52:17  <harrisony> Ok im back!
  32 13:52:19  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, quite posably
  33 13:52:27  <elkbuntu> the day, it seems, is *not* the best one
  34 13:53:03  <Kamping_Kaiser> how many people here voted on having it today? (not directed to elkbuntu , but generally)
  35 13:53:09  <elkbuntu> let me find the decision table, and we'll consider changing it to the runner up
  36 13:53:18  <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone remember how many votes tehre were for today all up?
  37 13:53:20  <siccness> No idea, I just voted all of them I think
  38 13:53:30  <harrisony> did anyone else hear about the m$ and samsung patents deal thing
  39 13:53:50  <Kamping_Kaiser> harrisony, irrelevent to meeting. sae it for later
  40 13:54:13  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, about 8
  41 13:54:20  <harrisony> Kamping_Kaiser: we started,...oops!
  42 13:54:24  <elkbuntu> till hunting the page
  43 13:55:48  <elkbuntu> http://ubuntu.org.au/meeting-prefs/
  44 13:56:09  <siccness> why the hell is mine all -1?
  45 13:56:38  <elkbuntu> siccness, they're not all, wed is +1
  46 13:56:48  <siccness> wednesday is my worst day
  47 13:56:49  <siccness> lol
  48 13:56:55  <siccness> i must have gotten confused
  49 13:56:59  <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, you didnt read the man page properly :P
  50 13:57:02  <siccness> lol
  51 13:57:13  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, can i suggest we try thursday as the one with 2nd most votes?
  52 13:57:15  <elkbuntu> siccness, even if we reverse, thursday is still the next best day
  53 13:57:20  <siccness> yeah
  54 13:57:30  <Kamping_Kaiser> excluding the posability that lots of people did what siccness did
  55 13:57:31  * Kamping_Kaiser nearly did
  56 13:57:53  <harrisony> QUESTION:what is the official ubuntu-au link is it .org.au or .com.au or
  57 13:58:00  <siccness> org.au
  58 13:58:03  <Melchiorre> How do we know that the meeting failure is because people can't make it...? It could be that there are never any good agenda items...
  59 13:58:19  <siccness> Tis a good point
  60 13:58:31  <Kamping_Kaiser> Melchior, even when there are agenda items (good is a /very/ relative concept) people arnt showing
  61 13:58:32  <harrisony> thanks
  62 13:58:48  <elkbuntu> Melchiorre, it's mainly because I tend to forget. *anyone* can run them, but nobody else but me tends to
  63 13:58:50  <Melchiorre> Kamping_Kaiser: fair enough
  64 13:59:01  <siccness> harrisony wants to run them
  65 13:59:04  <siccness> :)
  66 13:59:12  <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, run or ruin? ;)
  67 13:59:16  <siccness> Heh
  68 13:59:29  <elkbuntu> siccness, be nice, the kid is still in the channel
  69 13:59:46  <siccness> Interesting how I get told off :P
  70 13:59:53  <henno> I was just thinking that
  71 13:59:55  <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. i think i did
  72 14:00:07  <elkbuntu> right, sorry, bad kampaz
  73 14:00:07  <Melchiorre> elkbuntu: how about you nominate some people who can take over from you if you're not around? (points at Kamping_Kaiser)
  74 14:00:20  <siccness> nah Kamping_Kaiser is useless
  75 14:00:24  <Kamping_Kaiser> </3
  76 14:00:24  <siccness> :)
  77 14:00:28  <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
  78 14:00:48  <siccness> I always think yama is good at this stuff
  79 14:00:50  <siccness> however he aint around
  80 14:00:56  <siccness> so that kinda gets thrown out the door
  81 14:00:58  <elkbuntu> Melchiorre, Kamping_Kaiser and fujitsu are the deputies
  82 14:01:05  <harrisony> :O!
  83 14:01:18  <Kamping_Kaiser> i never think about meetings, i can if its helpful though
  84 14:01:19  <harrisony> i can behave when i choose to
  85 14:01:23  <elkbuntu> yama`, is also unavailable on thursdays, and is currently /away
  86 14:01:24  * harrisony points at /me
  87 14:01:25  <Kamping_Kaiser> infact, i dont think they are in my calendar
  88 14:02:05  <harrisony> Fujitsu could do it
  89 14:02:23  <Kamping_Kaiser> i could to, its a matter of remembering
  90 14:02:29  <Melchiorre> ok then, all those in favour of Kamping_Kaiser and fujitsu running meetings when elkbuntu isn't here?
  91 14:02:43  <siccness> so now Melchiorre is running the meetings? :P
  92 14:02:43  <Kamping_Kaiser> or Melchior , he seems fairly authorative
  93 14:03:01  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, and there's 3 of him, many hands... ;)
  94 14:03:05  <harrisony> Melchior: +1
  95 14:03:10  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, hehehe
  96 14:03:11  <Melchiorre> lol
  97 14:03:41  <siccness> I can run a meeting if required, but don't expect me to sit on an agenda item for longer than 30 seconds
  98 14:03:56  <henno> unless it involves cricket somehow
  99 14:03:58  <harrisony> siccness: hehehe 30 seconds!
 100 14:04:01  <elkbuntu> siccness, that's why i didnt even suggest you :Þ
 101 14:04:03  <siccness> henno: yup
 102 14:04:05  <Melchiorre> siccness: I like the sound of that...
 103 14:04:06  <siccness> elkbuntu: heheheh
 104 14:04:22  <elkbuntu> Melchior, rushing a meeting is *never* productive
 105 14:04:32  <siccness> as opposed to not having a meeting? :P
 106 14:04:40  <henno> or having a meeting about meetings
 107 14:04:44  <harrisony> siccness meeting:ok lets go 1) day to do meeting .......Ok TImes up its sunday 2)do we like pie......yes..time up yes! lol
 108 14:04:46  * henno enters a meeting loop
 109 14:04:48  <harrisony> meeting over
 110 14:04:50  <Kamping_Kaiser> 900 UTC = 6.30pm Adelaide time
 111 14:04:54  <elkbuntu> siccness, rushed meetings usually may well have not have happened
 112 14:05:22  <siccness> im more along the lines of not allowing voting, but enforcing my preference
 113 14:05:27  <siccness> hence the 30sec rule
 114 14:05:36  <elkbuntu> siccness, another reason why you'll never run them :Þ
 115 14:05:52  <siccness> I like to consider myself the George Bush of IRC
 116 14:05:53  <Kamping_Kaiser> can i suggest 10.00UTC for meeting time?
 117 14:06:00  <Kamping_Kaiser> and i'm perfectly happy to run them as required
 118 14:06:04  <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, so dumb as shit?
 119 14:06:09  <Melchiorre> Kamping_Kaiser: what's that in CST?
 120 14:06:10  <siccness> yes
 121 14:06:13  <harrisony> um....10utc is yeah i guess
 122 14:06:16  <Kamping_Kaiser> Melchior, 7.30
 123 14:06:27  <siccness> what's 10UTC in melb time?
 124 14:06:27  <harrisony> @10:00
 125 14:06:34  <harrisony> siccness: 8pm i think
 126 14:06:47  <elkbuntu> no, 9
 127 14:06:48  <harrisony> siccness: 8pm
 128 14:06:54  <Kamping_Kaiser> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=24&year=2007&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
 129 14:06:57  <Kamping_Kaiser> look :P
 130 14:07:04  <harrisony> Ahhh dst!
 131 14:07:05  <Cyvros> 8pm without DST.
 132 14:07:13  <siccness> are we in DST?
 133 14:07:13  <cafuego> Depends on whether it's DST.
 134 14:07:14  <Cyvros> EST is UTC+10
 135 14:07:18  <Cyvros> siccness: Not anymore.
 136 14:07:25  <Cyvros> During DST, AEST is UTC+11
 137 14:07:31  <siccness> so its 8pm?
 138 14:07:36  <Cyvros> siccness: Yep.
 139 14:07:38  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=24&year=2007&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=0&continent=australasia is more effective
 140 14:08:01  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, talk about complicating things ;P
 141 14:08:48  <siccness> we should base the meeting time around tv shows
 142 14:08:57  <harrisony> siccness: yes
 143 14:08:58  <elkbuntu> argh so we've been supposed to have meetings in my dinner time. that explains it even better. i was blaming TV
 144 14:09:13  <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
 145 14:09:18  <harrisony> wed as long as i can watch heros
 146 14:09:26  <siccness> so by such logic, im free anytime before or after i decide to watch 24
 147 14:09:34  <harrisony> *heroes
 148 14:09:40  <Kamping_Kaiser> i suggest 10pm any night or after (works for me ;))
 149 14:09:47  <elkbuntu> siccness, are you even an ubuntu user yet? :Þ
 150 14:09:56  <siccness> wth is ubuntu?
 151 14:10:00  <harrisony> siccness: haha
 152 14:10:59  <harrisony> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/siccness
 153 14:11:12  <siccness> Ahh deeply informative
 154 14:11:27  <siccness> Sounds like every project I've ever done, "work in progress" and never leaves such
 155 14:11:27  <harrisony> last changed date :S
 156 14:11:48  <harrisony> siccness: j00blog?
 157 14:11:52  <siccness> indeed
 158 14:12:02  <siccness> and recently; mandrews.harrisony
 159 14:12:09  <siccness> so is the meeting still on?
 160 14:12:20  <harrisony> errr
 161 14:12:35  <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
 162 14:12:43  <harrisony> #ubuntu-meeting technical bored meeting some time soon
 163 14:12:46  <elkbuntu> siccness, yes, im mulling a bit
 164 14:12:54  <Kamping_Kaiser> also, agenda item for next meeting: stop our meetings degrading into random drivel
 165 14:13:10  <siccness> ahh yes
 166 14:13:16  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, in this channel, that would involve kicking people from the channel
 167 14:13:29  * harrisony is using launchpad beta
 168 14:13:33  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, +q should work, in a meeting its almost justifed
 169 14:14:05  <harrisony> what is q why not +m and then ask for opinion
 170 14:14:27  <Kamping_Kaiser> +m works too
 171 14:14:38  <elkbuntu> same thing, different letter
 172 14:14:53  <harrisony> ahh
 173 14:15:19  <Melchiorre> so, back to meeting time...
 174 14:15:30  <cafuego> Speaking of random drivel. Why does my machine really only ever crash or lock on tuesday evenings?
 175 14:16:15  <Kamping_Kaiser> Melchiorre, are you likely to attend more /keep attending if the time is changed ? what time suites you?
 176 14:18:05  <Melchiorre> Tuesday is perfect, but Thursday is also ok-ish
 177 14:18:25  <elkbuntu> do we want to keep trying tuesday at a later time for a while?
 178 14:18:36  <Kamping_Kaiser> i think so
 179 14:18:42  <Melchiorre> but it should also be noted that if not enough people are coming to the most popular day, (according to the vote) why will more people come to the less popular day?
 180 14:19:05  <Kamping_Kaiser> Melchiorre, because people 'forget' to vote, or just cbf.
 181 14:19:07  <elkbuntu> Melchiorre, they'd be even if i retracted my +1 from tuesday
 182 14:19:08  <Kamping_Kaiser> also, things change
 183 14:19:28  <Melchiorre> ok
 184 14:20:21  <Melchiorre> is there any way to make ubotu remind people about the meetings? like an hour before?
 185 14:20:30  <elkbuntu> Melchiorre, not ubotu, no
 186 14:21:07  <harrisony> Melchiorre: you could file a bug against ~ubuntu-bots asking for it too do that
 187 14:21:12  <siccness> if we vote on something, just +1 me, bbl
 188 14:21:14  <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll try and remember next time, putting it in my cal should do it
 189 14:21:20  <elkbuntu> harrisony, it wouldnt happen, trust me
 190 14:21:30  <Kamping_Kaiser> i want to propose we ban all gentoo/arch users (sic has +1 already) ;)
 191 14:21:38  <siccness> wont happen
 192 14:21:41  <siccness> cuz you ban half the channel
 193 14:21:42  <harrisony> lol /me bribes servas $100
 194 14:21:56  <harrisony> siccness: so you dont use ubuntu at all
 195 14:21:58  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, what about debian users too.. oh that'd eliminate me as well :Þ
 196 14:22:03  <siccness> harrisony: no
 197 14:22:11  <harrisony> siccness: so why are you here
 198 14:22:12  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, hehe. you upstream you
 199 14:22:18  <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, :Þ
 200 14:22:24  <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
 201 14:22:26  <siccness> harrisony: because the ubuntu (-au) community are nice people
 202 14:22:31  <siccness> not to mention, kampaz is here
 203 14:22:35  <siccness> and lovely elkz
 204 14:22:36  <Kamping_Kaiser> ;D
 205 14:22:39  <siccness> you get a few devils like harrisony tho
 206 14:22:46  <siccness> can't win em all but
 207 14:22:56  <harrisony> siccness: why dont you join in the wonderful operating system we all use
 208 14:22:56  <elkbuntu> being an ubuntu user is not about using ubuntu exclusively
 209 14:22:59  <harrisony> and ha ha ha!
 210 14:23:10  <siccness> harrisony: because i have arch
 211 14:23:18  <siccness> now shut up, 24 is on
 212 14:23:19  <siccness> :)
 213 14:23:27  <harrisony> arch? i  think i heard of that
 214 14:23:41  <Cyvros> harrisony: http://archlinux.org
 215 14:23:47  <Cyvros> Similar to Crux, I think.
 216 14:23:47  <harrisony> Cyvros: i have then
 217 14:23:57  <siccness> nown known as Ark or some shit
 218 14:24:06  <elkbuntu> ok, so vote time. Keep tuesdays, but move to 1000UTC?
 219 14:24:08  <Cyvros> siccness: I don't understand the merger, personally.
 220 14:24:14  * Melchiorre is going to get things moving as he needs to head off soon....
 221 14:24:25  <siccness> talk in 1hr, Cyvros
 222 14:24:28  <Melchiorre> all those in favour of keeping the meeting time on Tuesday?
 223 14:24:30  <siccness> 40mins sorry
 224 14:24:30  <Melchiorre> +1
 225 14:24:33  <siccness> +1
 226 14:24:35  <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, +1
 227 14:24:38  <Cyvros> siccness: Right.
 228 14:24:46  <elkbuntu> Melchiorre, keeping the meeting time on tuesday or keeping meeting *day* tuesday
 229 14:24:48  <Melchiorre> ok, all those against?
 230 14:24:57  <Melchiorre> elkbuntu: both
 231 14:24:58  <Kamping_Kaiser> Melchiorre, we dont do againt ;)
 232 14:25:02  <elkbuntu> Melchiorre, please. i dont need an echo
 233 14:25:17  <siccness> ill give you a print f :)
 234 14:26:02  <harrisony> +1
 235 14:26:12  <Kamping_Kaiser> any against elkbuntu 's proposal?
 236 14:26:22  <Cyvros> I'll go along with everyone else and say 'Aye'.
 237 14:26:58  <elkbuntu> ok, i think we lost everyone else. meeting closed. i'll mail the list