= Log of meeting on 11/4/08 = == General Agenda Items and Proposals == ||Who||What|| ||[[Rocket2DMn]]||Final wiki transition|| === Agenda discussion === (none) == Log == [Wed Nov 5 0:1:24] First, I would like to remind the team ... [Wed Nov 5 0:1:38] Your hard work and dedication is greatly appreciated [Wed Nov 5 0:1:42] blarg? [Wed Nov 5 0:1:55] thank you all, even if it makes you blarg :) [Wed Nov 5 0:2:0] honk :D [Wed Nov 5 0:2:4] You're welcome bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:2:8] st33med, can it! [Wed Nov 5 0:2:9] :P [Wed Nov 5 0:2:12] Agenda : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [Wed Nov 5 0:2:28] bodhi_zazen: I don't do anything but hang out on irc, thanks anyway [Wed Nov 5 0:2:37] incredibly short meeting today! [Wed Nov 5 0:2:39] +1 nathangrubb [Wed Nov 5 0:2:41] Rocket2DMn, you want to discuss the wiki first ? [Wed Nov 5 0:2:42] well then nathangrubb, join ##beginners-help [Wed Nov 5 0:2:46] morn [Wed Nov 5 0:2:47] back [Wed Nov 5 0:3:4] .ping Rocket2DMn [Wed Nov 5 0:3:4] pong [Wed Nov 5 0:3:11] .ping | Rocket2DMn [Wed Nov 5 0:3:11] Rocket2DMn: ping from Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:3:15] OK, while we wait for Rocket, [Wed Nov 5 0:3:22] Forums - [Wed Nov 5 0:3:31] !start [Wed Nov 5 0:3:31] Factoid start not found [Wed Nov 5 0:3:38] Forums look sweet, lots of activity in the last few weeks [Wed Nov 5 0:3:38] .start [Wed Nov 5 0:4:0] no real issues, but the stalkers have been silent [Wed Nov 5 0:4:1] bodhi_zazen: sweet is not the word I would use. I would say over loaded and broken [Wed Nov 5 0:4:2] drubin, please lets try not to "play" with bot features in public while the meeting is going ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:4:19] You're killing my log! [Wed Nov 5 0:4:20] Robb_M: when did the meeting start? [Wed Nov 5 0:4:21] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:4:23] yea, we are hoping for a new server :) [Wed Nov 5 0:4:28] can i put in a quick word about IRC? [Wed Nov 5 0:4:29] .factoids [Wed Nov 5 0:4:29] Factoids have been disabled. [Wed Nov 5 0:4:31] bodhi_zazen: We wouldn't be good stalkers if we were noisy... [Wed Nov 5 0:4:33] Do we know if the slowness is due to volume? [Wed Nov 5 0:4:37] bah [Wed Nov 5 0:4:43] drs305, yes [Wed Nov 5 0:4:44] well screw this I don't have anything to say anyyway [Wed Nov 5 0:4:48] I am hinting that we need to start [Wed Nov 5 0:4:53] :| [Wed Nov 5 0:4:54] drubin: We started [Wed Nov 5 0:4:55] +1 for new UF server [Wed Nov 5 0:5:21] shall we move to the Development team ? [Wed Nov 5 0:5:35] bodhi_zazen: paultag isn't here [Wed Nov 5 0:5:36] bodhi_zazen: paultag is not here [Wed Nov 5 0:5:37] paul is not here at the moment [Wed Nov 5 0:6:4] I have left the svn server on the old server, but I can migrate it [Wed Nov 5 0:6:25] bodhi_zazen: What is it currently being used for? [Wed Nov 5 0:6:48] There are a few small projects on it [Wed Nov 5 0:7:2] ---- [Wed Nov 5 0:7:6] bodhi_zazen: Is there a reason for using this instead of a bzr branch on LP? [Wed Nov 5 0:7:10] Education :) [Wed Nov 5 0:7:17] nhandler, not that I know of [Wed Nov 5 0:7:31] nhandler is just a bzr junkie ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:7:32] I like svn better [Wed Nov 5 0:7:36] I host all of my projects in +junk :) [Wed Nov 5 0:7:37] bodhi_zazen: Because now that we have a BT on LP, it would be easy to setup a bzr branch where all BT members could push to [Wed Nov 5 0:7:54] nhandler: yes, it would [Wed Nov 5 0:8:9] nhandler, that would be fine with me as well [Wed Nov 5 0:8:41] any other comments on Devel ? [Wed Nov 5 0:8:58] OK, Education :) [Wed Nov 5 0:9:3] not exactly on devel, but on votebot..... [Wed Nov 5 0:9:10] bodhi_zazen: PrivateVoid is not here [Wed Nov 5 0:9:23] geesh. It seems like all team leaders are missing [Wed Nov 5 0:9:28] I think we had a python session :) [Wed Nov 5 0:9:30] LOL [Wed Nov 5 0:9:40] they did bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:9:46] votebots shaping up nicely as of a few revisions ago ;) we need to really give our votebot developers a hand in that ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:9:52] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:9:55] thanks st33med for the python class [Wed Nov 5 0:9:56] =1 [Wed Nov 5 0:9:57] I posted the log on my server if anyone is interested [Wed Nov 5 0:10:7] bodhi_zazen: I thought st33med asked you to remove them. [Wed Nov 5 0:10:9] votevot is written in perl, right? [Wed Nov 5 0:10:10] sec ... [Wed Nov 5 0:10:13] Correct soulrider [Wed Nov 5 0:10:16] all except for Robb_M, i agree Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:10:17] soulrider: yes [Wed Nov 5 0:10:31] Welcome [Wed Nov 5 0:10:32] ajmorris: i agree with you actually, all i do is bug reports :P [Wed Nov 5 0:10:33] if it was written in py i could try and help [Wed Nov 5 0:10:36] didn't know about python class [Wed Nov 5 0:10:46] jamesrfla: It was this past saturday [Wed Nov 5 0:10:56] lol Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:11:1] soulrider, you can help by submitting bug reports ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:11:8] I was working that day. O well [Wed Nov 5 0:11:13] nhandler, I kept them. I decided to have them in case someone was curious how my class went or want to know more about Python [Wed Nov 5 0:11:22] Hi PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:11:24] there is PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:11:24] TARDY! [Wed Nov 5 0:11:27] Glad to hear that st33med [Wed Nov 5 0:11:28] Late [Wed Nov 5 0:11:33] soulrider, someone has already submitted one saying that VoteBot is written in the wrong language [Wed Nov 5 0:11:36] shall we discuss votebot now ? [Wed Nov 5 0:11:36] PrivateVoid: You are just in time to talk about the Education FG [Wed Nov 5 0:11:38] marks PV tardy on attendance list [Wed Nov 5 0:11:40] has secretly triaged that [Wed Nov 5 0:11:42] Tardy tardy go to principal bodhis office PrivateVoid ! [Wed Nov 5 0:11:44] ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:11:45] sorry... daughter was having a fit [Wed Nov 5 0:11:47] IRC bodhi_zazen? [Wed Nov 5 0:11:51] I like votebot, but I would ask the team ... [Wed Nov 5 0:12:5] I think votebot is getting a little too much abuse :) [Wed Nov 5 0:12:5] That is unexcused PrivateVoid, go to your seat! [Wed Nov 5 0:12:10] +1 bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:12:11] votebot fits the bill for me [Wed Nov 5 0:12:18] Vote [Wed Nov 5 0:12:23] can we try to cut back a bit on the blatent votebot abuse :) [Wed Nov 5 0:12:24] +1 bodhi, we can modify the ignore list if needed though ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:12:29] votebot can be abused it is our little bot. [Wed Nov 5 0:12:39] ignore list was my idea :) [Wed Nov 5 0:12:43] o/ [Wed Nov 5 0:12:46] go nhandler [Wed Nov 5 0:12:50] and put me on it :P [Wed Nov 5 0:12:52] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:13:4] For those of you who don't know, VoteBot is now an op in this channel. What are your feelings on this topic? [Wed Nov 5 0:13:15] Fine by me [Wed Nov 5 0:13:19] that is fine with me nhandler [Wed Nov 5 0:13:21] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:13:21] nhandler: I am not a fan of the bot having ops is it needed? [Wed Nov 5 0:13:25] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:13:25] does Robb_M have access now? :P [Wed Nov 5 0:13:29] I approve of it I like votebot [Wed Nov 5 0:13:32] +1 drubin [Wed Nov 5 0:13:34] Fine by me, but what features does it have that it Needs access for? [Wed Nov 5 0:13:37] How should VoteBot use these op powers? [Wed Nov 5 0:13:40] I do like votebot but bots are hackable [Wed Nov 5 0:13:41] Robb_M: Currently none [Wed Nov 5 0:13:42] nhandler, sure, seems fine [Wed Nov 5 0:13:43] As long as a human op can kick him if he goes insane. I think there are always human ops in the channel. [Wed Nov 5 0:13:45] Vote on VoteBot [Wed Nov 5 0:13:59] i say that unoless theya re really needed votebot shouldnt have ops, just in case [Wed Nov 5 0:14:6] bots can kick people joining quicker than me :/ [Wed Nov 5 0:14:12] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:14:15] nhandler: i see no reason for ops unless it has a REASON for them...like...actually having something to use the ops with. [Wed Nov 5 0:14:27] +1 Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:14:31] Robb_M: That is what I am asking. How should VoteBot use the op powers? [Wed Nov 5 0:14:32] +1 Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:14:33] +1 Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:14:34] well, i see there is some diversity here on this matter. Why not take a poll on it? [Wed Nov 5 0:14:42] is scared of bots that have access to ban me [Wed Nov 5 0:14:45] haha [Wed Nov 5 0:14:46] nhandler, it shouldnt as of right now [Wed Nov 5 0:14:48] drubin, like me? [Wed Nov 5 0:14:50] DrSmall: yes vote [Wed Nov 5 0:14:51] Robb_M, how about +m on meeting mode? [Wed Nov 5 0:14:57] ibuclaw: nice! [Wed Nov 5 0:15:4] OK ... [Wed Nov 5 0:15:5] ibuclaw: +m ? [Wed Nov 5 0:15:6] no [Wed Nov 5 0:15:6] ibuclaw: +1 on that [Wed Nov 5 0:15:9] we dont want +m [Wed Nov 5 0:15:15] +1 ajmorris [Wed Nov 5 0:15:16] otherwise the padawan cant speak [Wed Nov 5 0:15:17] .vote "should votebot have ops" [Wed Nov 5 0:15:17] We Are Now Voting On: should votebot have ops [Wed Nov 5 0:15:17] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:17] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Nov 5 0:15:21] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:21] also, we allow non members to talk [Wed Nov 5 0:15:22] ajmorris: yes. [Wed Nov 5 0:15:23] -1 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:23] As VoteBot is written perl, it may eventually become self aware. In that case, it may not be a good idea for it to have ops. [Wed Nov 5 0:15:23] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:24] -1 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:25] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:32] -1 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:32] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:33] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:33] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:36] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:40] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:41] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:41] If we give VoteBot ops, it would be like iRobot [Wed Nov 5 0:15:44] .vstatus [Wed Nov 5 0:15:44] -1 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:51] .... [Wed Nov 5 0:15:52] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:15:53] FAIL [Wed Nov 5 0:15:57] haha [Wed Nov 5 0:15:57] .vstatus [Wed Nov 5 0:16:2] -1 [Wed Nov 5 0:16:3] :P [Wed Nov 5 0:16:8] lol, lag [Wed Nov 5 0:16:9] .vote [Wed Nov 5 0:16:9] We Are Done Voting On: should votebot have ops [Wed Nov 5 0:16:9] 15 People Voted. 1 People For. 4 People Against. 10 People Neutral. [Wed Nov 5 0:16:21] heh [Wed Nov 5 0:16:26] .vstatus [Wed Nov 5 0:16:29] It probably does not like us voting on it not having ops [Wed Nov 5 0:16:29] we have 42 people in this channel. [Wed Nov 5 0:16:30] yeah, talk about lag [Wed Nov 5 0:16:43] st33med: Good thing it's not self aware yet then... [Wed Nov 5 0:16:50] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:16:54] Any other votebot issues ? [Wed Nov 5 0:16:56] brb - daughter yelling for me again... sorry [Wed Nov 5 0:17:3] np PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:17:4] Laggy VoteBot [Wed Nov 5 0:17:5] np PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:17:11] np PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:17:12] ok, next irc [Wed Nov 5 0:17:16] Maybe wait till we have ideas or blueprints that would use op for votebot before we worry about it having ops? [Wed Nov 5 0:17:18] sorry im late [Wed Nov 5 0:17:19] st33med, nah... the bot is fine receiving an processing data [Wed Nov 5 0:17:24] Saj0577: +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:17:25] I believe ajmorris has some news for us :) [Wed Nov 5 0:17:27] Saj0577: +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:17:36] Saj0577: It currently does not op itself. So we have nothing to worry about [Wed Nov 5 0:17:37] it's just the posting that seems to lack behind in the module [Wed Nov 5 0:17:46] ajmorris: you have the floor...so speak your mind! ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:18:6] Rocket2DMn, we can do wiki next :) [Wed Nov 5 0:18:12] not news.... just that IRC has been quite pathetic lately, people signed up to be on the focus group, but never frequent the channel, I have been sitting in there alone on many seperate occasions, when people enter the channel for help [Wed Nov 5 0:18:14] ok just say when [Wed Nov 5 0:18:17] some of this is due to timezone difference [Wed Nov 5 0:18:20] but a lot is not [Wed Nov 5 0:18:22] nhandler yeah im just saying because if it has no use for ops then we dont need to worry about deciding whether it should have ops till it needs/would be of use to have them. (hope make ssense) [Wed Nov 5 0:18:27] even when all you yanks are awake it happens [Wed Nov 5 0:18:53] im kinda guilty, i barely come in here or the forums anymore [Wed Nov 5 0:18:54] ajmorris, I do not hang on that channel, but if someone post in, ping me ? [Wed Nov 5 0:19:0] people do find the channel, from /list -- quite more requently these days [Wed Nov 5 0:19:13] I find if I am not careful I end up in like 70 channels [Wed Nov 5 0:19:14] ajmorris: I prefer working through the forums but whenever you find you need help just give a shout on here. [Wed Nov 5 0:19:20] ajmorris, what is that channel [Wed Nov 5 0:19:27] its the IRC focus group channel [Wed Nov 5 0:19:29] ##beginners-help [Wed Nov 5 0:19:42] helps people get help away from the busy channel of #ubuntu [Wed Nov 5 0:19:58] drs305, thats alright, its mainly at the people that signed up to the focus group... [Wed Nov 5 0:20:0] I will try to bring that up in this channel as well [Wed Nov 5 0:20:13] I know that I sit in it while I am on, but I don't always see when someone posts [Wed Nov 5 0:20:14] Hi the-stace meeting [Wed Nov 5 0:20:14] the-stace, your late :) [Wed Nov 5 0:20:20] and late [Wed Nov 5 0:20:22] and if more people wanna join the focus group, just ask :) [Wed Nov 5 0:20:24] ajmorris was also wording on getting a team cloak [Wed Nov 5 0:20:29] hi everyone [Wed Nov 5 0:20:30] yeah, thats on the way bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:20:34] sorry i was busy [Wed Nov 5 0:20:39] hey stace [Wed Nov 5 0:20:43] OK , Rocket2DMn wiki update [Wed Nov 5 0:20:43] no diffinitive answer from the UCC at the moment [Wed Nov 5 0:20:44] ajmorris: I will add it to my weechat config auto load. but cant login while at work. (so most of the day) [Wed Nov 5 0:20:45] Hey Alan [Wed Nov 5 0:20:46] hey the-stace [Wed Nov 5 0:20:47] they are 2 for, 1 against [Wed Nov 5 0:20:56] Hey the-joe [Wed Nov 5 0:21:25] ok, quick Wiki update - we finished moving pages from help.ubuntu.com to the team wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com [Wed Nov 5 0:21:38] Thank you for that Rocket2DMn [Wed Nov 5 0:21:39] Thank you for finishing moving the FG pages :) [Wed Nov 5 0:21:47] The team pages look nice [Wed Nov 5 0:22:2] Thanks everyone in wiki focus group, your help is appreciated! :) [Wed Nov 5 0:22:15] Next topic : Security [Wed Nov 5 0:22:16] yay! That is all. [Wed Nov 5 0:22:23] Rocket2DMn: link? [Wed Nov 5 0:22:24] the security section is boring [Wed Nov 5 0:22:27] that's about it [Wed Nov 5 0:22:30] =] [Wed Nov 5 0:22:36] soulrider, our wiki area is now at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam [Wed Nov 5 0:22:37] its all your fault! [Wed Nov 5 0:22:37] yeah [Wed Nov 5 0:22:41] Not much to report here, but I would like to encourage everyone to be more security aware [Wed Nov 5 0:22:42] we need some UF hacking challenges... [Wed Nov 5 0:22:54] we really need to come up with something better for the Security FG page [Wed Nov 5 0:22:54] ajmorris: ++1 [Wed Nov 5 0:22:55] like try2hack.nl but with UF members :D [Wed Nov 5 0:22:58] I just make them go to your page bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:23:0] ajmorris, DVL => DVU [Wed Nov 5 0:23:4] never run sudo rm -rf /! thats my security notice [Wed Nov 5 0:23:6] lol perlluver [Wed Nov 5 0:23:17] tronyx_ security is very import also with Ubuntu [Wed Nov 5 0:23:18] we could try to hack gwos [Wed Nov 5 0:23:26] launchpad ? [Wed Nov 5 0:23:26] we could try some RTB challenges :D [Wed Nov 5 0:23:37] launchpad is slow [Wed Nov 5 0:23:37] right [Wed Nov 5 0:23:37] hetirv, yea, but those images ... [Wed Nov 5 0:23:39] :/ [Wed Nov 5 0:23:49] bodhi_zazen, you get hacked back if you fail [Wed Nov 5 0:23:50] I hope to hold a meeting in the next week or so to discuss the direction of the LP FG [Wed Nov 5 0:23:50] damn, im at work, i have to go [Wed Nov 5 0:23:52] slow but doing nicely [Wed Nov 5 0:23:54] see you al around [Wed Nov 5 0:24:2] later soulrider [Wed Nov 5 0:24:4] cya Saj0577 [Wed Nov 5 0:24:6] o [Wed Nov 5 0:24:8] cu soulrider [Wed Nov 5 0:24:11] Cya soulrider [Wed Nov 5 0:24:12] nite [Wed Nov 5 0:24:12] We also have a BT on LP and a mailing list that all BT members should sign up for [Wed Nov 5 0:24:12] tries to listen to the meeting over the idle chatter [Wed Nov 5 0:24:22] Any other team issues b4 we vote on members ? [Wed Nov 5 0:24:28] I have some [Wed Nov 5 0:24:32] go PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:24:41] and I have one, after PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:24:46] kk [Wed Nov 5 0:24:54] Since our last meeting the Education and Padawan teams were merged and I redid the Education page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education [Wed Nov 5 0:25:6] and Padawan page -https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Padawan [Wed Nov 5 0:25:23] I would like to see more suggestions for 'courses' or 'education' material [Wed Nov 5 0:25:34] this can be written material or external links [Wed Nov 5 0:25:37] ooo, looks nice [Wed Nov 5 0:25:44] PrivateVoid: Is there a list on the wiki for these suggestions? [Wed Nov 5 0:26:0] We need to shore up our basic information education for prospective members with that type of material [Wed Nov 5 0:26:11] self- motivated material that they can read at their own pace [Wed Nov 5 0:26:21] +1 PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:26:39] I am happy with the 'live' courses we have had, but would like to see more material covered than programming... security would be fantastic [Wed Nov 5 0:26:50] interactive discussions on how to configure SSH, etc... [Wed Nov 5 0:27:5] ooo, that sounds awesome [Wed Nov 5 0:27:6] PrivateVoid, is there a page on "How to answer questions on the forums" [Wed Nov 5 0:27:10] I like ssh :) [Wed Nov 5 0:27:13] and screen [Wed Nov 5 0:27:15] PrivateVoid: i would like to do the SSH if no objections? [Wed Nov 5 0:27:16] PriceChild, that would be really great [Wed Nov 5 0:27:18] me to :) [Wed Nov 5 0:27:21] Please feel free to post your ideas on the class ideas page [Wed Nov 5 0:27:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Proposals [Wed Nov 5 0:27:27] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:27:39] Post suggestion on class and we can schedule [Wed Nov 5 0:27:46] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:27:58] I mean, i would like to be the instructor for it....or ill be your second hand man if you want to do it yourself.... [Wed Nov 5 0:27:59] very cool PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:28:1] anything else PrivateVoid ? [Wed Nov 5 0:28:7] We also now have a learning resources page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Resources [Wed Nov 5 0:28:17] that is broken down in to levels of knowledge [Wed Nov 5 0:28:18] sweet [Wed Nov 5 0:28:23] that is in dire need of content [Wed Nov 5 0:28:44] Let me know if there are any things I have not taken care of [Wed Nov 5 0:28:49] takes a breath [Wed Nov 5 0:28:51] all set [Wed Nov 5 0:28:56] PrivateVoid, I think "they" are sitll interested in having us use #ubuntu-classroom [Wed Nov 5 0:29:7] I agree Rocket2DMn [Wed Nov 5 0:29:24] If we move to #ubuntu-classroom I would like to be polished [Wed Nov 5 0:29:34] Rocket2DMn, yes... for live classes [Wed Nov 5 0:29:49] ubuntu-classroom...scares me [Wed Nov 5 0:29:51] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:29:57] I have to go and eat dinner. I hope the rest of the meeting goes well. [Wed Nov 5 0:29:58] I suggest we have a few team members go through a practice session, I would like the team to look strong [Wed Nov 5 0:30:17] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:30:18] practice? [Wed Nov 5 0:30:23] +1 bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:30:28] pushes st33med / python 101 => #ubuntu-classroom [Wed Nov 5 0:30:35] Ah [Wed Nov 5 0:30:38] 101 again [Wed Nov 5 0:30:39] I vote for a few informal training sessions before we go live in the main class_room [Wed Nov 5 0:30:45] sounds good [Wed Nov 5 0:30:48] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:30:53] yes st33med , teaching does not always go smooth, and it helps a lot to get feedback [Wed Nov 5 0:31:15] DrSmall, ??? [Wed Nov 5 0:31:20] +1 st33med [Wed Nov 5 0:31:22] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:31:27] tries to keep meeting on topic / moving :) [Wed Nov 5 0:31:32] when posting meeting times in UTC, please post them correctly in UTC! [Wed Nov 5 0:31:42] LOL [Wed Nov 5 0:31:42] +1 DrSmall [Wed Nov 5 0:31:43] 201 will have to wait for awhile, however, I would have to brush up on my Python once more [Wed Nov 5 0:31:50] oh yes DrSmall, we have a few here that do not know UTC STILL! [Wed Nov 5 0:31:52] *glare at bodhi* [Wed Nov 5 0:31:52] +1 DrSmall [Wed Nov 5 0:31:55] +1 - DST just ended, that may have been the cause of some confusion [Wed Nov 5 0:32:1] My bot knows UTC! [Wed Nov 5 0:32:2] this meeting was at 00:00 UTC, not 22:00 UTC :P [Wed Nov 5 0:32:17] Hey, I suggest gcal, times are always correct on gcal :) [Wed Nov 5 0:32:23] bodhi_zazen, ^^^iirc, i pointed that out a month ago, lol [Wed Nov 5 0:32:28] the other issue is DST ends and starts at different times in some countries (or at least that is my understanding) [Wed Nov 5 0:32:44] anyone else need access to the team gcal (in terms of editing / adding events) ? [Wed Nov 5 0:32:54] we need someone who is an expert in all time zones, converting and DST :P [Wed Nov 5 0:32:58] focus group meetings could go on there bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:33:6] I will bodhi_zazen as classes start to get scheduled [Wed Nov 5 0:33:7] I need help setting gcal up [Wed Nov 5 0:33:12] so focus group leads should get access also? [Wed Nov 5 0:33:14] Sorry guys I need to leave. I still have a small change to do on a project and it is very late. gnite. Will read the logs and pop back after I am finished [Wed Nov 5 0:33:20] OK, anyone who needs access to a gcal contact me and we can make it happen [Wed Nov 5 0:33:29] cya drubin [Wed Nov 5 0:33:30] I wish there was an easier way to use online calenders with offline apps [Wed Nov 5 0:33:38] gcal accounts automagically for all these time zone issues :) [Wed Nov 5 0:33:41] st33med: like...evolution [Wed Nov 5 0:33:43] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:33:52] bodhi_zazen: only if the gcal is updated [Wed Nov 5 0:33:53] what do you mean st33med? most calender apps for linux support loading gcal into them [Wed Nov 5 0:34:2] installs gcal from Arch Repositories [Wed Nov 5 0:34:2] That involves automatic downloading like email [Wed Nov 5 0:34:3] Any other team issues or shall we move on to membership [Wed Nov 5 0:34:4] wishes to add that to the agenda. [Wed Nov 5 0:34:16] move on i think bodhi [Wed Nov 5 0:34:20] LOL DrSmall not that gcal [Wed Nov 5 0:34:27] oh [Wed Nov 5 0:34:27] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:34:32] https://www.google.com/calendar/ [Wed Nov 5 0:34:38] g calculator :P [Wed Nov 5 0:35:0] OK, NEW MEMBERS \0/ [Wed Nov 5 0:35:1] wb nathangrubb_ [Wed Nov 5 0:35:9] WOOT! go for it bod! [Wed Nov 5 0:35:11] :) [Wed Nov 5 0:35:18] \O/ WHY DO WE LIKE CAPS LOCK!!!?!? [Wed Nov 5 0:35:21] turns music down [Wed Nov 5 0:35:22] jamesrfla, you are up first, you have been "in the wings" [Wed Nov 5 0:35:41] so how do we vote with VoteBot in private agian ? [Wed Nov 5 0:35:41] st33med, you dont like emphasis? [Wed Nov 5 0:35:44] just /msg it to him? [Wed Nov 5 0:35:52] yes grubby [Wed Nov 5 0:35:54] yes grubby [Wed Nov 5 0:35:57] I LOVE EMPHASIS [Wed Nov 5 0:36:4] I know there have been issues with jamesrfla , but PrivateVoid has been mentoring him and I think he has made progress [Wed Nov 5 0:36:8] Hey guys, please calm down and stay on topic [Wed Nov 5 0:36:17] calms down -_- [Wed Nov 5 0:36:20] He is now much more knowledgable and willing to learn [Wed Nov 5 0:36:35] .vote "James for membership" --msg [Wed Nov 5 0:36:35] We Are Now Voting On: James for membership [Wed Nov 5 0:36:35] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:36:36] and he is now no more irritating then say bodhi_zazen :) [Wed Nov 5 0:36:39] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:36:40] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:36:44] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:36:46] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:36:50] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:36:55] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:37:2] bot lag! [Wed Nov 5 0:37:4] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:37:10] total bot lag [Wed Nov 5 0:37:12] Robb_M, --msg turns PM votes off [Wed Nov 5 0:37:13] .status [Wed Nov 5 0:37:16] You really need threading on Votebot to handle overwhelming sits like this [Wed Nov 5 0:37:19] bodhi, fix your server [Wed Nov 5 0:37:20] :) [Wed Nov 5 0:37:22] +1 st33med [Wed Nov 5 0:37:24] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:37:27] did a private vote still go through? [Wed Nov 5 0:37:33] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:37:34] no [Wed Nov 5 0:37:34] Yes, but it takes a while [Wed Nov 5 0:37:34] yes, did it? [Wed Nov 5 0:37:45] no it didnt [Wed Nov 5 0:37:46] ajmorris, we have a lot of lag on our local net, I am shocked I am able to make this meeting at all [Wed Nov 5 0:37:49] i screwed up [Wed Nov 5 0:37:51] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:37:55] oic bodhi [Wed Nov 5 0:37:58] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:37:59] should make my bot do voting [Wed Nov 5 0:38:5] .vote [Wed Nov 5 0:38:5] We Are Done Voting On: James for membership [Wed Nov 5 0:38:5] 9 People Voted. 9 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral. [Wed Nov 5 0:38:6] i turned private voting OFF instead of on...*smack forehead* <---stupid bot admin [Wed Nov 5 0:38:13] weehooo [Wed Nov 5 0:38:16] welcome jamesrfla [Wed Nov 5 0:38:16] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:38:17] st33med: I was working on making grubbot do that [Wed Nov 5 0:38:18] yeehaa [Wed Nov 5 0:38:18] ABOUT TIME BOY! [Wed Nov 5 0:38:19] welcome jamesrfla [Wed Nov 5 0:38:19] hits Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:38:20] ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:38:24] lmao Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:38:25] Thanks :) [Wed Nov 5 0:38:25] Robb_M: good job, now my vote doesn't count [Wed Nov 5 0:38:27] welocme jamesrfla [Wed Nov 5 0:38:32] OK, next digitalvectorz ? [Wed Nov 5 0:38:32] congratulations jamesrfla [Wed Nov 5 0:38:34] Congrats jamesrfla [Wed Nov 5 0:38:38] claps [Wed Nov 5 0:38:41] I would like to say something at this point [Wed Nov 5 0:38:44] who is digitalvectorz mentor ? [Wed Nov 5 0:38:45] stands [Wed Nov 5 0:38:49] thanks PrivateVoid drs305 forestpixie perlluver bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:38:50] paultag, bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:38:55] ^5's james......i knew you had it in you..... [Wed Nov 5 0:39:7] has been standing, where is his chair, huh??? [Wed Nov 5 0:39:13] James you did a fantastic job of undertaking the projects handed to you and learning. I am proud of you! [Wed Nov 5 0:39:31] Thanks :-D [Wed Nov 5 0:39:32] :) [Wed Nov 5 0:39:33] +1 PrivateVoid [Wed Nov 5 0:39:34] thanks guys...i should be thanking the team as well too [Wed Nov 5 0:39:43] for allowing james these MANY chances [Wed Nov 5 0:39:45] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:39:50] steals PrivateVoid's chair and sits [Wed Nov 5 0:39:59] OK, on to digitalvectorz ? [Wed Nov 5 0:40:7] sure thing bodhi [Wed Nov 5 0:40:16] I support digitalvectorz , even if he is a geekis maximus :) [Wed Nov 5 0:40:24] same here :) [Wed Nov 5 0:40:25] Robb_M: I wonder how many chances I got [Wed Nov 5 0:40:27] -.- [Wed Nov 5 0:40:32] .vote "digital" [Wed Nov 5 0:40:32] We Are Now Voting On: digital [Wed Nov 5 0:40:32] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:32] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Nov 5 0:40:37] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:38] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:39] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:40] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:40] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:41] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:41] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:42] digital vote machines? [Wed Nov 5 0:40:45] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:47] :D [Wed Nov 5 0:40:56] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:40:57] st33med: open-source voting :) [Wed Nov 5 0:40:59] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:41:0] VoteBot, is a digital vote machine [Wed Nov 5 0:41:1] Ah [Wed Nov 5 0:41:6] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:41:8] heh, james non voiced wasnt set, your vote still didnt count :P [Wed Nov 5 0:41:16] Not really bodhi_zazen, he uses magnetic punch cards [Wed Nov 5 0:41:16] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:41:17] :) [Wed Nov 5 0:41:28] .vote [Wed Nov 5 0:41:28] We Are Done Voting On: digital [Wed Nov 5 0:41:28] 15 People Voted. 15 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral. [Wed Nov 5 0:41:34] jamesrfla has voice [Wed Nov 5 0:41:40] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:41:42] has voted [Wed Nov 5 0:41:42] he does? [Wed Nov 5 0:41:45] wait [Wed Nov 5 0:41:50] oh em gee [Wed Nov 5 0:41:52] i didnt notice [Wed Nov 5 0:41:54] :P [Wed Nov 5 0:41:56] lol.. [Wed Nov 5 0:41:58] Robb_M, snooze you loose [Wed Nov 5 0:41:59] bot lag [Wed Nov 5 0:42:0] grats digitalvectorz [Wed Nov 5 0:42:1] 2/2 Robb_M [Wed Nov 5 0:42:3] welcome digitalvectorz :) [Wed Nov 5 0:42:8] ty PrivateVoid bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:42:9] congrats digitalvectorz [Wed Nov 5 0:42:14] Welcome digitalvectorz [Wed Nov 5 0:42:15] congrats digitalvectorz [Wed Nov 5 0:42:17] welcome digitalvectorz [Wed Nov 5 0:42:18] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:42:20] congratulations [Wed Nov 5 0:42:31] gz digitalvectorz [Wed Nov 5 0:42:48] Looks like neiter ApOgEEk or _Cloud_ are here [Wed Nov 5 0:42:54] ^^ perlluver jamesrfla forestpixie DrSmall ajmorris drs305 *** and more [Wed Nov 5 0:42:55] shall we vote on them ? [Wed Nov 5 0:43:2] .ping | _Cloud_ [Wed Nov 5 0:43:2] _Cloud_: ping from ajmorris [Wed Nov 5 0:43:12] we can vote on _cloud [Wed Nov 5 0:43:13] Cloud said earlier he couldn't be hear I believe [Wed Nov 5 0:43:15] PrivateVoid, any words on _Cloud_ ? [Wed Nov 5 0:43:19] I don't think Apogee was tested [Wed Nov 5 0:43:21] did ApOgEEk do the test yet [Wed Nov 5 0:43:31] I tested ApOgEEk a long time ago [Wed Nov 5 0:43:43] I do not have any words on _Cloud_ [Wed Nov 5 0:43:45] ah then what the hey lets vote [Wed Nov 5 0:44:4] I believe we passed one or both of them up at the last meeting [Wed Nov 5 0:44:8] I have not had much opportunity to speak with him... but he would have my vote based on those few times [Wed Nov 5 0:44:8] _Cloud_, has been here for a while, quite and humble [Wed Nov 5 0:44:18] s/quite/quiet [Wed Nov 5 0:44:23] he 'fits' with the team [Wed Nov 5 0:44:25] .vote "_cloud for membership ?" [Wed Nov 5 0:44:25] We Are Now Voting On: _cloud for membership ? [Wed Nov 5 0:44:25] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:25] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Nov 5 0:44:29] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:29] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:29] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:30] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:30] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:31] -1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:32] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:32] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:36] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:36] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:38] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:42] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:44:43] slaps DrSmall [Wed Nov 5 0:44:49] see [Wed Nov 5 0:44:55] slaps DrSmall [Wed Nov 5 0:44:55] this is why i like private voting... [Wed Nov 5 0:44:56] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:45:0] pats DrSmall [Wed Nov 5 0:45:9] slaps nathangrubb [Wed Nov 5 0:45:12] .vote [Wed Nov 5 0:45:12] We Are Done Voting On: _cloud for membership ? [Wed Nov 5 0:45:12] 16 People Voted. 14 People For. 1 People Against. 1 People Neutral. [Wed Nov 5 0:45:18] guys quiet the chatter [Wed Nov 5 0:45:24] OK last ApOgEEk :) [Wed Nov 5 0:45:33] slaps st33med for slapping nathangrubb [Wed Nov 5 0:45:38] hey ck [Wed Nov 5 0:45:42] wb compiledkernel :) [Wed Nov 5 0:45:44] hi compiledkernel [Wed Nov 5 0:45:47] Hi compiledkernel late...... [Wed Nov 5 0:45:49] compiledkernel, tardy! [Wed Nov 5 0:45:50] ck, late as usual ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:45:53] hey compiledkernel long time no see [Wed Nov 5 0:45:56] damn [Wed Nov 5 0:45:56] .vote " ApOgEEk for membership ?" [Wed Nov 5 0:45:56] We Are Now Voting On: ApOgEEk for membership ? [Wed Nov 5 0:45:56] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:45:56] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Nov 5 0:45:56] hi ck [Wed Nov 5 0:45:59] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:0] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:1] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:1] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:2] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:5] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:6] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:8] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:10] I've never even heard of him [Wed Nov 5 0:46:11] 0 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:12] according to the Padawan page, he hasn't taken the quiz...is that true? [Wed Nov 5 0:46:16] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:20] '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' [Wed Nov 5 0:46:21] digitalvectorz, no he has [Wed Nov 5 0:46:22] digitalvectorz, no [Wed Nov 5 0:46:23] digitalvectorz: no [Wed Nov 5 0:46:25] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:28] digitalvectorz: no [Wed Nov 5 0:46:29] okay, just checking :-D [Wed Nov 5 0:46:31] :) [Wed Nov 5 0:46:33] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:46:34] man ive missed a lot of quizzing aparently [Wed Nov 5 0:47:10] +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:47:17] .status [Wed Nov 5 0:47:21] nhandler it's a bit late now [Wed Nov 5 0:47:35] .vote [Wed Nov 5 0:47:35] We Are Done Voting On: ApOgEEk for membership ? [Wed Nov 5 0:47:35] 16 People Voted. 11 People For. 0 People Against. 5 People Neutral. [Wed Nov 5 0:47:47] What are you talking about nathangrubb? My vote got in ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:47:49] welcome ApOgEEk [Wed Nov 5 0:47:50] alrighty then [Wed Nov 5 0:47:54] nhandler: well then [Wed Nov 5 0:47:58] Welcome ApOgEEk and _Cloud_ [Wed Nov 5 0:48:0] refer to bodhi_zazen above [Wed Nov 5 0:48:6] Any other team issues ? [Wed Nov 5 0:48:7] welcome ApOgEEk and _Cloud_ [Wed Nov 5 0:48:10] .ping | ApOgEEk [Wed Nov 5 0:48:10] ApOgEEk: ping from ajmorris [Wed Nov 5 0:48:16] bodhi_zazen: Yes, where is that money you owe me? [Wed Nov 5 0:48:24] So who are the new BT members? [Wed Nov 5 0:48:31] LOL nathangrubb [Wed Nov 5 0:48:34] !newmembers [Wed Nov 5 0:48:38] bodhi_zazen, hmm... where's the part where padawans seek for some masters? [Wed Nov 5 0:48:39] less chatter more order in meetings. Especially when people at work in morning. [Wed Nov 5 0:48:41] even mine got in [Wed Nov 5 0:48:43] :P [Wed Nov 5 0:48:45] nhandler: me _Cloud_ digitalvectorz and _Cloud_ [Wed Nov 5 0:48:48] nhandler, _Cloud_, digitalvectorz ApOgEEk and jamesrfla [Wed Nov 5 0:48:59] Saj0577: +1 [Wed Nov 5 0:49:11] Congrats jamesrfla, _Cloud_, digitalvectorz, and ApOgEEk [Wed Nov 5 0:49:17] JAMES! [Wed Nov 5 0:49:19] :D [Wed Nov 5 0:49:19] thanks nhandler [Wed Nov 5 0:49:20] where's the part where [non] padawans seek new masters? Sorry Robb_M, but Alan_M is my REAL master [Wed Nov 5 0:49:20] ty nhandler [Wed Nov 5 0:49:28] 'grats to all new members [Wed Nov 5 0:49:41] Meetings could be done in half the time if the chit chat was filtered out. [Wed Nov 5 0:49:41] So is the meeting over now? [Wed Nov 5 0:49:41] *roll eyes* [Wed Nov 5 0:49:42] kingpest, that can be done at any time [Wed Nov 5 0:49:42] bows in front bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:49:49] Or you can go the dark path :) [Wed Nov 5 0:49:50] lol [Wed Nov 5 0:49:54] so... i'm seeking a master:) [Wed Nov 5 0:49:55] Saj0577: it was like, 5 minutes [Wed Nov 5 0:49:59] kingpest, you can add your name to this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Padawan [Wed Nov 5 0:50:4] ok [Wed Nov 5 0:50:6] and then a master can 'claim' you [Wed Nov 5 0:50:14] CLAIMED! [Wed Nov 5 0:50:15] someone want to end the meeting so Robb can clean up the log [Wed Nov 5 0:50:20] grabs kingpest [Wed Nov 5 0:50:21] Any other team issues [Wed Nov 5 0:50:21] nathangrubb: what was 5 minutes? [Wed Nov 5 0:50:24] nobody else touches this one! [Wed Nov 5 0:50:25] kingpest: you have a UF acount [Wed Nov 5 0:50:28] move to close meeting :) [Wed Nov 5 0:50:29] ;) [Wed Nov 5 0:50:29] motions that the meeting me adjourned [Wed Nov 5 0:50:33] DrSmall: the meeting, well, it was longer, but it's not like it was 30 minutes [Wed Nov 5 0:50:34] +1 bodhi_zazen [Wed Nov 5 0:50:34] .meeting [Wed Nov 5 0:50:34] Meeting mode disabled. ---- CategoryBeginnersTeam