= Log of meeting on 12/2/08 = == General Agenda Items and Proposals == ||Who||What|| ||Rocket2DMn||Complete our [[https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ|FAQ]]|| ||PrivateVoid||Education Focus Group - Meetings, class formats, call for instructors|| ||PrivateVoid||[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Includes/HeaderDraft|DRAFT: Wiki Header Page]] - need to see if people like the idea or not|| === Agenda discussion === (none) == Log == [Wed Dec 3 0:2:24] First, as always, thank you to everyone here (and to those who could not make it as well) [Wed Dec 3 0:3:11] I know we are all volunteers, but this team contributes significantly to the Ubuntu community and it is appreciated [Wed Dec 3 0:3:59] Any of the various teams have anything specific ? [Wed Dec 3 0:4:4] Yes [Wed Dec 3 0:4:9] I put them on the agenda [Wed Dec 3 0:4:9] Looks like wiki team and Education have issues :) [Wed Dec 3 0:4:11] Why dont you just go down the list after PV is done [Wed Dec 3 0:4:15] go PrivateVoid :) [Wed Dec 3 0:4:33] OK... first I have made a call for instructors on the forums [Wed Dec 3 0:4:41] Rocket2DMn, yea, I am just wanting a heads up if there are issues is all [Wed Dec 3 0:4:56] PrivateVoid, I thought it was just topics [Wed Dec 3 0:4:59] these people would be ones who would teach a class via IRC or simply design a course that would be on the forums or use the wiki [Wed Dec 3 0:5:20] ? [Wed Dec 3 0:5:23] should I stop? [Wed Dec 3 0:5:26] no, go [Wed Dec 3 0:5:29] k [Wed Dec 3 0:5:46] While PV types, the Education Focus Group page is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education [Wed Dec 3 0:6:1] the general idea is to create not only live IRC courses, but courses that may stretch over a few weeks and have content on the wiki/forum and a live portion as well [Wed Dec 3 0:6:16] what kind of courses if i can ask? [Wed Dec 3 0:6:24] like intro to the console stuff? [Wed Dec 3 0:6:30] think of a programming course where students are given basic information... then a set of problems... then the live session would be where the could get help [Wed Dec 3 0:6:45] some topics are more suited to one format or the other... so this is a variable thing [Wed Dec 3 0:6:59] the console would likely be a 'resource' and not a course... [Wed Dec 3 0:7:5] PrivateVoid, you have put a lot of effort into this, thank you [Wed Dec 3 0:7:13] May I make a suggestion ? [Wed Dec 3 0:7:18] Beautiful wiki pages PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:7:21] one more thing [Wed Dec 3 0:7:34] I am meeting with the classroom team about the concept as well [Wed Dec 3 0:7:40] yes... a suggestion is good [Wed Dec 3 0:7:43] How about a scheduled "live" Q&A session on IRC ? [Wed Dec 3 0:8:7] those would be good too bodhi_zazen - most likely when people have questions about posted 'resources' [Wed Dec 3 0:8:10] Looking at the topics , I was thinking if we ran a live Q&A , drop by, it would get things started [Wed Dec 3 0:8:18] or want to go a little deeper than the wiki/forum FAQ goes [Wed Dec 3 0:8:37] here is the started resource page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Resources [Wed Dec 3 0:8:56] The question came up, what is the relation between the BT and Classroom [Wed Dec 3 0:9:0] is back (gone 01:59:29) [Wed Dec 3 0:9:13] +1 bodhi_zazen [Wed Dec 3 0:9:27] I think the answer was, similar to wiki or irc, we can recruit and send people to the Classroom [Wed Dec 3 0:9:51] well... the classroom folks and I will be talking about that tonight at 8pm EST [Wed Dec 3 0:10:2] OK, on IRC ? [Wed Dec 3 0:10:2] they would like us to run our IRC courses in their room [Wed Dec 3 0:10:5] yes on iRC [Wed Dec 3 0:10:9] pleia2 is logged into IRC if you need to talk to her as well [Wed Dec 3 0:10:15] #ubuntu-classroom [Wed Dec 3 0:10:25] I see no problem with using #ubuntu-classroom [Wed Dec 3 0:10:28] pleia2 is the lead on the classroom team [Wed Dec 3 0:10:29] what would be the difference between live Q&A and #ubuntu ? ooc? [Wed Dec 3 0:10:37] we are looking to augment, not take over [Wed Dec 3 0:10:43] or duplicate efforts [Wed Dec 3 0:10:46] #ubuntu is impossible for people to follow [Wed Dec 3 0:10:55] and not as focused [Wed Dec 3 0:10:56] +1 PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:11:2] I think Q&A is different from looking for support [Wed Dec 3 0:11:4] #ubuntu = support [Wed Dec 3 0:11:16] the Q&A would be focused on a particular topic for a period of time [Wed Dec 3 0:11:21] Q&A = more detailed questions, not covered on #ubuntu [Wed Dec 3 0:11:23] hello guys... are we in a meeting? [Wed Dec 3 0:11:30] yes EvilKastel [Wed Dec 3 0:11:51] allright. bodhi_zazen thanks. [Wed Dec 3 0:11:59] For example, how to install from source is more a discussion then a question for #ubutnu, IMHO [Wed Dec 3 0:12:9] +1 bodhi_zazen [Wed Dec 3 0:12:14] as is setting up UFW [Wed Dec 3 0:12:31] In the interest of moving things along ... [Wed Dec 3 0:12:31] there could be a generic wiki article on it... but a Q&A on specific questions [Wed Dec 3 0:12:45] anything we need to specifically discuss fruther ? [Wed Dec 3 0:12:56] +1 PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:13:1] not on that issue... [Wed Dec 3 0:13:7] but there is the next item on the agenda [Wed Dec 3 0:13:17] perhaps we should ask instructors to create / update the relevant wiki pages [Wed Dec 3 0:13:20] when we are ready... sorry for being a microphone hog [Wed Dec 3 0:13:28] yes, that is the idea [Wed Dec 3 0:13:33] go PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:13:34] or Forum FAQs [Wed Dec 3 0:13:39] ok.. next item [Wed Dec 3 0:13:58] I made a header for the education team -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education [Wed Dec 3 0:14:6] likes very much [Wed Dec 3 0:14:8] and was asked if I could make one for the main team site... [Wed Dec 3 0:14:9] It is sweet PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:14:17] I made a mock up and want to get approval to use it [Wed Dec 3 0:14:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Includes/HeaderDraft [Wed Dec 3 0:14:23] sorry I am late [Wed Dec 3 0:14:31] +1 your help with that would be much appreciated, I'd be happy to work on the details with you PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:14:35] that is the actual header... I tried to fit a majority of our main links [Wed Dec 3 0:14:48] **** Notice **** [Wed Dec 3 0:15:5] Are there any potential members not on the meeting agenda ? [Wed Dec 3 0:15:17] If so, please update the agenda (one at a time please) [Wed Dec 3 0:15:40] It looks awesome PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:15:44] Rocket2DMn, and others... should we move forward with that header? [Wed Dec 3 0:15:53] do we want to vote on it? [Wed Dec 3 0:15:59] PrivateVoid, i think there are actually a few too many links on it [Wed Dec 3 0:16:1] .vote "Use PV's Header ?" [Wed Dec 3 0:16:1] We Are Now Voting On: Use PV's Header ? [Wed Dec 3 0:16:1] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:16:1] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Dec 3 0:16:12] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:16:17] We can always remove items [Wed Dec 3 0:16:25] 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:16:27] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:16:29] +1 we can hammer out some details after the meeting with it, it looks very nice [Wed Dec 3 0:16:30] I will abstain [Wed Dec 3 0:16:34] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:16:44] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:17:6] Anyone else wanting to vote ? [Wed Dec 3 0:17:18] 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:17:19] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:17:21] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:17:25] 3... 2... 1... [Wed Dec 3 0:17:33] .vote [Wed Dec 3 0:17:33] We Are Done Voting On: Use PV's Header ? [Wed Dec 3 0:17:33] 7 People Voted. 6 People For. 0 People Against. 1 People Neutral. [Wed Dec 3 0:17:40] :) [Wed Dec 3 0:17:47] nods [Wed Dec 3 0:17:50] very cool [Wed Dec 3 0:17:57] I will work on getting that in place over the next few days [Wed Dec 3 0:18:12] focus groups -> Rocket2DMn ? [Wed Dec 3 0:18:13] Rocket2DMn, and I can hammer out the final 'links' for the header [Wed Dec 3 0:18:27] we'll talk after the meeting PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:18:37] thanks bodhi_zazen , onto a new topic then guys [Wed Dec 3 0:19:4] Last summer we did a nice job with our FAQ that had existed in some form already on the community docs - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ [Wed Dec 3 0:19:12] +1 on working on the team FAQ [Wed Dec 3 0:19:29] However, it is still incomplete, and some of its pages may not be up to date with Intrepid, so I was hoping we can finish the FAQ and update some of the pages that it links to [Wed Dec 3 0:19:39] Would everyone please consider reviewing that page and adding / editing a little something please ? [Wed Dec 3 0:19:47] yes... [Wed Dec 3 0:19:55] it appears to go hand in hand with the edu team [Wed Dec 3 0:20:9] as it covers a great many of the things we want to ensure new users know... [Wed Dec 3 0:20:14] it makes a great spring board [Wed Dec 3 0:20:15] Rocket2DMn, thank you , I do not want to be the only one bringing up that page ;) [Wed Dec 3 0:20:20] yes, I was hoping Education FG members and Wiki FG members could be strong contributors [Wed Dec 3 0:20:44] Also, Rocket2DMn THANK YOU for migrating the wiki pages [Wed Dec 3 0:20:53] If anybody needs help with wiki syntax or has questions, just let me know. [Wed Dec 3 0:21:5] anything else from wiki team ? [Wed Dec 3 0:21:18] no problem, I wiki migration is complete, any pages left on the community docs will remain there since they are actually help pages [Wed Dec 3 0:21:29] OK, Forums [Wed Dec 3 0:21:30] That is all. [Wed Dec 3 0:21:38] Anyone have any questions re: forums ? [Wed Dec 3 0:22:4] great job Rocket2DMn +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:22:5] Thank you everyone for working on the fourms :) [Wed Dec 3 0:22:16] Security ? [Wed Dec 3 0:22:19] Tronyx, you here ? [Wed Dec 3 0:22:20] forums ftw :P [Wed Dec 3 0:22:24] Tronyx, ping [Wed Dec 3 0:22:43] hi [Wed Dec 3 0:22:47] sorry, what did i miss? [Wed Dec 3 0:22:54] lol [Wed Dec 3 0:23:3] I would say, the awareness of security is increasing and we are getting some higher quailty threads in the security section [Wed Dec 3 0:23:29] i sure as hell hope so because they have been eating something awful as of late [Wed Dec 3 0:23:40] Please take the time to familiarize yourselves with basic security [Wed Dec 3 0:23:56] bookmark it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 [Wed Dec 3 0:23:57] if you have questions i will always entertain a good question =D [Wed Dec 3 0:23:57] Tronyx, nothing that arises to your high standards, just a step in the right direction is all [Wed Dec 3 0:24:18] hmmm not sure how to interpret that [Wed Dec 3 0:24:38] Tronyx_, you could try using wireshark... [Wed Dec 3 0:24:48] Tronyx_, sulted [Wed Dec 3 0:24:56] nmap [Wed Dec 3 0:25:1] Tronyx, well it is better then the recurring discussions about stealth ports [Wed Dec 3 0:25:9] but not as good as wireshark [Wed Dec 3 0:25:16] we need more wireshark [Wed Dec 3 0:25:23] :) [Wed Dec 3 0:25:29] OK, IRC team ? [Wed Dec 3 0:25:46] on another note, if anyone wants to donate towards registering the domain "youcouldtryusingwireshark.com" with which we can use to respond to posts, it would be greatly appreciated [Wed Dec 3 0:26:6] Development team ? [Wed Dec 3 0:26:10] Tronyx_, I'll buy it :P [Wed Dec 3 0:26:11] bodhi_zazen, Yo [Wed Dec 3 0:26:21] and bodhi_zazen nothing from IRC, it needs a rethink, IMO [Wed Dec 3 0:26:25] K Guys, I will make this quick, I know none of you want to be here --- [Wed Dec 3 0:26:46] We are looking for new members, we would like to maintain activity, so if you are interested in development, head to ##beginners-dev [Wed Dec 3 0:26:55] We should have the SVN server running one of these days... [Wed Dec 3 0:27:2] :) bodhi_zazen ( I am looking at you ) [Wed Dec 3 0:27:7] kk, thats it for us [Wed Dec 3 0:27:14] paultag, the svn server is still running [Wed Dec 3 0:27:26] It is just on the old server, you should be able to ssh into it [Wed Dec 3 0:27:27] bodhi_zazen, yeah, but we need to get keys set and management etc [Wed Dec 3 0:27:36] OK, talk to me later [Wed Dec 3 0:27:37] bodhi_zazen, ok, we can talk after the meeting [Wed Dec 3 0:28:2] Congrats to all the MOTU and potential MOTU [Wed Dec 3 0:28:3] I am ... [Wed Dec 3 0:28:10] do we have a #beginners-security? [Wed Dec 3 0:28:12] 30 mintutes late :| [Wed Dec 3 0:28:14] Please do not forget about us low lives [Wed Dec 3 0:28:32] who is trying to become MOTU? [Wed Dec 3 0:28:36] I MISSED IT??> [Wed Dec 3 0:28:46] PrivateVoid, me, nhandler [Wed Dec 3 0:28:48] st33med, were still going [Wed Dec 3 0:28:51] Oh cool [Wed Dec 3 0:28:52] grats!!! [Wed Dec 3 0:29:2] What channel [Wed Dec 3 0:29:4] Any other team issues b4 we move to new members ? [Wed Dec 3 0:29:35] Should we discuss VoteBot abuse ? [Wed Dec 3 0:29:40] Aye [Wed Dec 3 0:29:41] Link abuse ? [Wed Dec 3 0:29:45] Nay [Wed Dec 3 0:29:54] bodhi_zazen, CK link issues? [Wed Dec 3 0:29:59] Let's just disable factoids [Wed Dec 3 0:29:59] :) [Wed Dec 3 0:30:3] Rocket2DMn, +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:30:4] CK link issues -- yes [Wed Dec 3 0:30:7] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:30:11] i don't think he should be linking that shit to new people [Wed Dec 3 0:30:11] +1 paultag [Wed Dec 3 0:30:13] Well, lest call them inappropriate links in the channel [Wed Dec 3 0:30:21] CL is certainly not the only guilty party [Wed Dec 3 0:30:25] hangs head in shame [Wed Dec 3 0:30:31] well, anyone in general considering he is a mod, but NSFW needs to be declared [Wed Dec 3 0:30:37] What channel is the MOTU thingy going on [Wed Dec 3 0:30:37] Tronyx_, +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:30:40] o/ [Wed Dec 3 0:30:40] http://www.pakkusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ubuntu-804-4.jpg [Wed Dec 3 0:30:47] can we mark the GWOS Domain as NSFW? [Wed Dec 3 0:30:52] that's fine [Wed Dec 3 0:31:0] i am talking about bleeding god knows whats and penises [Wed Dec 3 0:31:13] Tronyx_, totally. [Wed Dec 3 0:31:22] Oh, and, NEVER OPEN MY LINK :||||||||| [Wed Dec 3 0:31:23] OK, please mark links as NSFW then ;) [Wed Dec 3 0:31:25] what has been seen cannot be unseen [Wed Dec 3 0:31:39] bloody router cut out 5 mins before the meeting :@ [Wed Dec 3 0:31:39] go lukjad007 :) [Wed Dec 3 0:32:3] What chan is MOTU going on in? [Wed Dec 3 0:32:4] I just wanted to say that I don't mind votebot, but I'm still new to IRC [Wed Dec 3 0:32:4] lukjad007, ? [Wed Dec 3 0:32:5] like bodhizazen.gwos.org/customavatar029032.gif [Wed Dec 3 0:32:16] LOL [Wed Dec 3 0:32:25] OK then, last item I have [Wed Dec 3 0:32:37] Lets cut down on the VoteBot abuse please [Wed Dec 3 0:32:48] robb, that means you [Wed Dec 3 0:32:56] +1 paultag [Wed Dec 3 0:32:57] I know you are reading this [Wed Dec 3 0:32:57] a little VoteBot is funny some times, but too much of a good thing ... [Wed Dec 3 0:32:59] yeah i vote getting rid of it [Wed Dec 3 0:33:2] i've been pleased with VoteBot and its usage in this channel but as I am sure we all know i am around much less these days [Wed Dec 3 0:33:16] Tronyx, you and me both on the latter statement [Wed Dec 3 0:33:16] *cough* [Wed Dec 3 0:33:17] Tronyx_, sadsies [Wed Dec 3 0:33:19] VoteBot is my pal, -1 for getting rid of it [Wed Dec 3 0:33:28] isiah, we will not get rid of it, but we can restrict access [Wed Dec 3 0:33:34] too bad [Wed Dec 3 0:33:44] if people abuse it bodhi, we can simply have them ignored [Wed Dec 3 0:33:45] VoteBot, is our spy :) [Wed Dec 3 0:33:50] Disable Factoids I say! [Wed Dec 3 0:33:52] I suppose it could get annoying seeing it over and over, but I think "he" funnier than some people who I know. [Wed Dec 3 0:33:59] there is already an ignore function in it bodhi_zazen [Wed Dec 3 0:34:14] ajmorris, I do not want to be heavy handed :) [Wed Dec 3 0:34:14] we shouldnt need to set ignore on people [Wed Dec 3 0:34:21] Just keep it to reason please [Wed Dec 3 0:34:23] Factoids are the most useless can'd responses ever, I vote to get rid of them [Wed Dec 3 0:34:25] I think we can all be mature enough to just not abuse the bot [Wed Dec 3 0:34:29] we shouldnt *need* to, but it is an option just in case [Wed Dec 3 0:34:31] shakes his head [Wed Dec 3 0:34:43] PrivateVoid, which way ? [Wed Dec 3 0:34:45] we are all supposed to be mature here... and setting a good example for the Ubuntu community [Wed Dec 3 0:34:49] I vote keeping it, even though I can't vote and am not a member, and probably shouldn't be saying anything. [Wed Dec 3 0:34:59] Maturity is over rated :) [Wed Dec 3 0:35:0] PrivateVoid, but the thing is not all of us are [Wed Dec 3 0:35:4] paultag, not *all* factoids are useless :) [Wed Dec 3 0:35:7] PrivateVoid, and we still have fun [Wed Dec 3 0:35:17] having fun is great... within reason [Wed Dec 3 0:35:20] Byrnison, this is an open meeting so feel free all to join in [Wed Dec 3 0:35:23] Joeb454, the !ohmy every second to saying "Crap" every two seconds is overboard [Wed Dec 3 0:35:29] my only problem with bot abuse is when it is used to abuse people [Wed Dec 3 0:35:31] I agree with Byrnison, in the same way that I'm not a member. [Wed Dec 3 0:35:37] I don't have need for help for often, but VoteBot has a large number of helpful links. [Wed Dec 3 0:35:37] especially people new to the channel [Wed Dec 3 0:35:48] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:35:50] Or it would seem, anyway. [Wed Dec 3 0:36:4] VoteBot == Dead horse :) [Wed Dec 3 0:36:20] Shall we do new membersip ? [Wed Dec 3 0:36:25] you know the startup message when we come here says clearly "No bots please" [Wed Dec 3 0:36:27] I need to see a man about a horse [Wed Dec 3 0:36:30] :) [Wed Dec 3 0:36:34] +1 on moving onto membership voting [Wed Dec 3 0:36:45] anyone want to post the list? [Wed Dec 3 0:36:50] i have something i wanted to discuss bodhi... forgot to add it to the agenda, but it can wait till after membership :) [Wed Dec 3 0:37:2] Flare183 and PartyBoi2 [Wed Dec 3 0:37:4] go ajmorris [Wed Dec 3 0:37:9] those are the only two listed on the page [Wed Dec 3 0:37:33] PrivateVoid, do we not have additional eligible folks ? [Wed Dec 3 0:37:44] ok, well, this is an item from UAP... the unanswered posts team has a tracker to track your own posts, and flag them for help if/when you get stuck helping someone [Wed Dec 3 0:37:46] that's all bodhi_zazen [Wed Dec 3 0:37:48] none have been nominated [Wed Dec 3 0:37:58] i was wondering if the bt wanted to join with uap, and help each other out through this tracker [Wed Dec 3 0:38:8] PrivateVoid, I think that my mentee is ready to be voted on, but it is soon [Wed Dec 3 0:38:11] +1 ajmorris [Wed Dec 3 0:38:12] ajmorris, +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:38:18] +1 ajmorris [Wed Dec 3 0:38:23] sorry, UAP? [Wed Dec 3 0:38:31] unanswered posts team [Wed Dec 3 0:38:32] Un answered posts [Wed Dec 3 0:38:32] unanswered posts [Wed Dec 3 0:38:34] The quiet ones ... [Wed Dec 3 0:38:34] ah [Wed Dec 3 0:38:36] +1 ajmorris [Wed Dec 3 0:38:50] NEW MEMBERS [Wed Dec 3 0:38:51] oh +1 :) [Wed Dec 3 0:38:56] bodhi_zazen, I personally would put EvilKastel as a possible for a vote tonight but that it really up to st33med [Wed Dec 3 0:38:59] Has anyone seen Flare recently ? [Wed Dec 3 0:39:0] kk, ill hook it up then :) [Wed Dec 3 0:39:13] PrivateVoid, any idea on Andrew? [Wed Dec 3 0:39:16] I would really put up EvilKastel up [Wed Dec 3 0:39:16] I would also put NewJack up ... but he has not take his test yet... [Wed Dec 3 0:39:29] I have seen him around, but not much... [Wed Dec 3 0:39:32] what happened to BLT a while back? [Wed Dec 3 0:39:37] I would likely put him forward as well. [Wed Dec 3 0:39:44] BLT is around from time to time [Wed Dec 3 0:39:51] but that is up to paultag [Wed Dec 3 0:39:53] i havnt seen flare around recently, and i have been doing othing but sitting in this channel... [Wed Dec 3 0:39:53] hrm, I never see him [Wed Dec 3 0:39:54] BLT just isnt very active on IRC [Wed Dec 3 0:40:9] I recall seeing Flare sometime today, but only his quit message... [Wed Dec 3 0:40:27] OK, how about PartyBoi2 ? [Wed Dec 3 0:40:34] he was nominated [Wed Dec 3 0:40:44] shall we vote ? [Wed Dec 3 0:40:48] yep [Wed Dec 3 0:40:57] EvilKastel vote [Wed Dec 3 0:40:59] we gonna do private voting? [Wed Dec 3 0:41:4] .vote " PartyBoi2 for membership" [Wed Dec 3 0:41:4] We Are Now Voting On: PartyBoi2 for membership [Wed Dec 3 0:41:4] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:4] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Dec 3 0:41:10] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:17] I would personally think it is safe to do PartyBoi2 EvilKastel andrew.46 and Flare183 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:20] ajmorris, if you wish [Wed Dec 3 0:41:21] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:21] PrivateVoid, I think andrew.46 is ready for a vote. He, however is not here. [Wed Dec 3 0:41:22] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:30] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:31] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:34] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:41:47] paultag, I think it is ok to vote on him when he is not here... he is on fairly often from what I see [Wed Dec 3 0:41:53] hehe, its not really as i wish, i just remember a couple of members got annoyed about non-private voting... [Wed Dec 3 0:41:59] PrivateVoid, k [Wed Dec 3 0:42:2] .vote [Wed Dec 3 0:42:2] We Are Done Voting On: PartyBoi2 for membership [Wed Dec 3 0:42:2] 7 People Voted. 7 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral. [Wed Dec 3 0:42:5] if someone wanted to go -1, they dont wanna do it in the channel... [Wed Dec 3 0:42:5] AKA, DrSmall [Wed Dec 3 0:42:5] ajmorris, I msg'ed [Wed Dec 3 0:42:11] yee hoo :) [Wed Dec 3 0:42:15] Welcome PartyBoi2 [Wed Dec 3 0:42:17] 'grats PartyBoi2 [Wed Dec 3 0:42:20] welocme PartyBoi2 [Wed Dec 3 0:42:22] lol st33med, i was leaving names out :P [Wed Dec 3 0:42:25] welcome PartyBoi2 [Wed Dec 3 0:42:27] :) [Wed Dec 3 0:42:27] thanks guys :) [Wed Dec 3 0:42:30] gz PartyBoi2 :D [Wed Dec 3 0:42:30] I prefer to keep the team open if at all possible [Wed Dec 3 0:42:33] who's used john to crack a password before? [Wed Dec 3 0:42:40] Me [Wed Dec 3 0:42:42] i have Tronyx_ [Wed Dec 3 0:42:42] Tronyx_, o/ a while back though [Wed Dec 3 0:42:43] Tronyx, you know I have :) [Wed Dec 3 0:42:43] me Tronyx_ [Wed Dec 3 0:42:44] That was an odd question... [Wed Dec 3 0:42:46] does it separate the salt? [Wed Dec 3 0:42:48] Tronyx_, i have, lets wait til after the meeting tho [Wed Dec 3 0:42:49] raises hand [Wed Dec 3 0:42:54] Tronyx_: that is going to look nice on the logs [Wed Dec 3 0:42:54] sorry i didn't know it was still going [Wed Dec 3 0:42:59] Tronyx, I've run the prog but to no avail [Wed Dec 3 0:43:2] go PrivateVoid [Wed Dec 3 0:43:15] no.. I was saying yes to Tronyx_ [Wed Dec 3 0:43:18] kk [Wed Dec 3 0:43:22] sorry for the confusion [Wed Dec 3 0:43:30] Shall we vote on Flare ? [Wed Dec 3 0:43:39] yes... he was nominated [Wed Dec 3 0:43:47] .vote "Flare183 for membership" [Wed Dec 3 0:43:47] We Are Now Voting On: Flare183 for membership [Wed Dec 3 0:43:47] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:43:47] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Dec 3 0:43:50] 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:43:53] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:43:59] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:44:4] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:44:7] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:44:25] .vote [Wed Dec 3 0:44:25] We Are Done Voting On: Flare183 for membership [Wed Dec 3 0:44:25] 8 People Voted. 5 People For. 0 People Against. 3 People Neutral. [Wed Dec 3 0:44:43] Welcome Flare :) [Wed Dec 3 0:44:52] Anyone want to second EvilKastel ? [Wed Dec 3 0:45:1] has he done the quiz? [Wed Dec 3 0:45:3] bodhi_zazen, o/ [Wed Dec 3 0:45:3] I will [Wed Dec 3 0:45:4] 2nd [Wed Dec 3 0:45:18] .vote "EvilKastel for membership" [Wed Dec 3 0:45:18] We Are Now Voting On: EvilKastel for membership [Wed Dec 3 0:45:18] Vote with +1, -1, or 0 [Wed Dec 3 0:45:18] You can also /msg VoteBot your vote [Wed Dec 3 0:45:21] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:45:26] has he been quizzed? [Wed Dec 3 0:45:33] yes [Wed Dec 3 0:45:34] Yah [Wed Dec 3 0:45:36] according to the page [Wed Dec 3 0:45:37] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:45:38] then [Wed Dec 3 0:45:39] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:45:43] ah wiki page is outdated [Wed Dec 3 0:45:54] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:45:57] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:45:58] +1 [Wed Dec 3 0:46:4] .vote [Wed Dec 3 0:46:4]