20090211

Log of meeting on 2/11/09

General Agenda Items and Proposals

Who

What

Bodsda

Paultags absence, anyone else takin up control of the FG for now? i know paultag put drubin in charge

Bodsda

Dev team and Education team should get together and do a few more classes.

Bodsda

How do we plan on advertising the classes?

Agenda discussion

(none)

Log

   1 [00:04:40 ] <bodhi_zazen> .meeting
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   3 [00:04:40] <VoteBot> =-=-=Meeting mode enabled=-=-=
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   5 [00:04:41] <Rocket2DMn> fail
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   7 [00:05:13] <bodhi_zazen> I would like to change the format a little
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   9 [00:05:25] <nhandler> In what way bodhi_zazen ?
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  11 [00:05:36] <bodhi_zazen> Do any of the focus groups have anything major to report ?
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  13 [00:05:42] <nhandler> Nope
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  15 [00:05:48] <Rocket2DMn> nope
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  17 [00:05:50] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, yes
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  19 [00:05:56] <bodhi_zazen> go Bodsda
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  21 [00:06:34] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, Dev FG has the unfortunate news of our beloved leader (paultag) leaving for "a month or so to sort some shit out"
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  23 [00:06:56] <ibuclaw> beloved?
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  25 [00:06:58] <bodhi_zazen> :(
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  27 [00:07:02] <Rocket2DMn> that's news to me
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  29 [00:07:08] <Bodsda> ibuclaw, hated?
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  31 [00:07:09] <nhandler> Me too
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  33 [00:07:13] <bodhi_zazen> has anyone taken his place ?
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  35 [00:07:17] <bodhi_zazen> in the interim ?
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  37 [00:07:22] <nhandler> I believe that is on the agenda
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  39 [00:07:23] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, he elected drubin
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  41 [00:07:29] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, I believe me and drubin will manage for the time being
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  43 [00:07:30 * jamesrfla isn't in a focus group :(
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  45 [00:07:44] <bodhi_zazen> is that OK with drubin and the rest of the team ?
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  47 [00:07:53] <ibuclaw> I exchange a few words with drubin the other day
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  49 [00:07:55 * easwar wonders where is elfy?
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  51 [00:07:57] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, i have no problems, ibuclaw is around more though
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  53 [00:08:00] <PartyBoi2> I have no probs with that
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  55 [00:08:02] <nhandler> Is this only until paultag gets back?
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  57 [00:08:08] <bodhi_zazen> OK ibuclaw , can we update the Dev wiki page, thanks
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  59 [00:08:10] <Bodsda> nhandler, i believe so
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  61 [00:08:13] <ajmorris> yes nhandler
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  63 [00:08:17] <bodhi_zazen> I think so nhandler , but ...
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  65 [00:08:19] <ajmorris> he appointed him just before he left...
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  67 [00:08:24] <nhandler> We should also update the team on LP
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  69 [00:08:27] <bodhi_zazen> that brings up my agenda items :)
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  71 [00:08:48] <ajmorris> just on IRC; not really anything from IRC :P, other than we're getting more people stopping by now these days, and with more people sitting in the channel, most have them have gone away happy :D -- Would be nice if members brought more people from #ubuntu in aswell though....
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  73 [00:08:52] <bodhi_zazen> I want to discuss leadersip / team goals / personal goals
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  75 [00:09:15] <jamesrfla> I can't stand #ubuntu
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  77 [00:09:25 * easwar neither
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  79 [00:09:35] <bodhi_zazen> First a *brief* review of the team and our purpose ...
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  81 [00:09:45] <ajmorris> thats the point of ##beginners-help ;)
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  83 [00:09:53] <bodhi_zazen> Our purpose / focus is the ubuntu forums
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  85 [00:09:53] <Bodsda> ajmorris, problem is not many of us are in #ubuntu regularly
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  87 [00:09:53] <jamesrfla> +1 ajmorris
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  89 [00:10:11] <bodhi_zazen> and to help new users transition to Ubuntu
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  91 [00:10:21] <ajmorris> you could stop in from time to time Bodsda?
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  93 [00:10:36] <bodhi_zazen> I have taken it as a broad agenda and i would like to support the broader Ubuntu community as well
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  95 [00:10:46] <bodhi_zazen> I like a mix of new and experienced users
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  97 [00:11:03] <nhandler> I think we are already doing a bit of that with the FGs bodhi_zazen
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  99 [00:11:12] <Bodsda> ajmorris, im always there :)
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 101 [00:11:18] <bodhi_zazen> as well as some representation on additional areas such as wiki, LP, IRC, etc
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 103 [00:11:33] <ajmorris> lol Bodsda, i meant #ubuntu :P
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 105 [00:11:39] <bodhi_zazen> Which brings up leadership ...
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 107 [00:11:44] <Bodsda> ajmorris, so did i
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 109 [00:12:03] <bodhi_zazen> The team has grown and IMO this is awesome
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 111 [00:12:12] <jamesrfla> IMO?
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 113 [00:12:13] <Rocket2DMn> it is awesome
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 115 [00:12:18] <bodhi_zazen> we have matured, but I would hope we still continue to grow
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 117 [00:12:45] <Bodsda> jamesrfla, in my opinion
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 119 [00:12:52] <bodhi_zazen> so to support growth we need the focus groups and the FG leaders to assist as one person can not manage all the growth and contributions
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 121 [00:13:01] <jamesrfla> thanks Bodsda
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 123 [00:13:06] <Bodsda> no probs :)
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 125 [00:13:30] <Rocket2DMn> bodhi_zazen, what did you have in mind for FG leads outside of their current organization of their FGs?
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 127 [00:13:34] <bodhi_zazen> Some people have expressed a concern that the team is faltering or that it does not do enough
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 129 [00:13:47] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: When you are done, I have something I want to bring up re: LP FG
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 131 [00:13:51] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, faltering on what area?
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 133 [00:14:07] <bodhi_zazen> Bods, it was a broad suggestion
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 135 [00:14:25] <bodhi_zazen> So I would like to ask the team for feedback / impressions
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 137 [00:14:29] <easwar> and I have something regarding voting on padawans
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 139 [00:14:35] <jamesrfla> I can devote more time to the forums after I get my computer fixed
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 141 [00:14:44] <Rocket2DMn> bodhi_zazen, I would like to see FG leaders help to integrate their FGs closer with other Ubuntu teams
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 143 [00:14:45] <bodhi_zazen> and if anyone needs guidance on what to do ask either myself or the FG leaders
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 145 [00:14:58] <jamesrfla> I have backups but I want to get it working again
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 147 [00:15:15] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, i believe we need more structure in the focus groups and in this channel
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 149 [00:15:31] <bodhi_zazen> If you need something "to do" and are not interested in a FG => brouse the forums, advertise the team, recruit
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 151 [00:15:40] <Rocket2DMn> For example, I encourage Wiki FG members to join the ubuntu-doc and wiki teams. I think LP users should strive for bugcontrol or other teams that support LP's funcitons
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 153 [00:15:51] <nhandler> I personally am looking for a co-leader for the LP FG. I have some good ideas, but I need some help (especially with getting a few meetings going)
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 155 [00:15:52] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Rocket2DMn
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 157 [00:16:05] <ajmorris> re: faltering and does not do enough... I agree that we could be involved more, we have the FGs, but they are not all that active, although, whoever brought this to your attention, also has to remember we are all volunteers
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 159 [00:16:08] <bodhi_zazen> BUT it is not a requirement to be involved in a FG
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 161 [00:16:39] <bodhi_zazen> So I would also like to ask, do we need to change/ re-elect FG leads ?
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 163 [00:16:40] <Rocket2DMn> I know there were a few people in here intersted in bugs, they should join the LP FG
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 165 [00:16:42] <Bodsda> nhandler, im not a fan of LP but i am looking for something to do, if i could learn how to use it i would be happy to help
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 167 [00:16:42] <easwar> ajmorris, +1
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 169 [00:16:43] <bodhi_zazen> and if so which ones ?
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 171 [00:16:55] <nhandler> Bodsda: I have no issue helping to teach
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 173 [00:17:00] <Bodsda> cool :)
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 175 [00:17:13] <nhandler> Bodsda: I just would like a co-leader to help "force" me to hold meetings and things like that ;)
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 177 [00:17:25] <easwar> nhandler, cron?
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 179 [00:17:26] <Bodsda> nhandler, oh, i can do that :)
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 181 [00:17:28] <bodhi_zazen> nhandler: +1
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 183 [00:17:30 * jamesrfla sticks to UF and IRC and mayeb wiki
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 185 [00:17:57] <bodhi_zazen> If the curent FG leads are adequate, lets get some FG meetings going ;)
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 187 [00:17:57] <Bodsda> jamesrfla, maybe consider getting to know some of the guys in #ubuntu -- the channel is quite friendly after you get to grips with the speed
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 189 [00:18:09] <bodhi_zazen> even if it startes as 1 or 2 people
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 191 [00:18:09] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, I agree, there is not enough meetings
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 193 [00:18:15 * nhandler notes that we could use the LP team polls to get more feedback
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 195 [00:18:34] <Rocket2DMn> Team, we don't want anybody to overstretch themselves, we realize that it can be draining over time. From my point of view, I would like to see people find something and focus energy toward it rather than bits and pieces everywhere
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 197 [00:18:35] <bodhi_zazen> /end rant ;)
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 199 [00:18:39] <ajmorris> joe and i will get an IRC meeting going at some point... even if it is very short, and just to get IRC hug days happening
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 201 [00:18:42] <jamesrfla> Bodsda: I can't keep up with all the trafic in #ubuntu
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 203 [00:18:50] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Rocket2DMn
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 205 [00:19:01] <easwar> nhandler, not everyone who would want to vote would have an LP a/c
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 207 [00:19:02] <Rocket2DMn> Don't get BT ADHD
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 209 [00:19:15] <Bodsda> jamesrfla, trust me, it gets easier
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 211 [00:19:19] <easwar> lol Rocket2DMn
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 213 [00:19:20] <nhandler> easwar: Most of the team has an LP account. They are also members of the BT on LP
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 215 [00:19:23] <bodhi_zazen> Again this is not a "requirement" it is an opportunity for those interested in doing more to come forward, offer ideas, and get involved
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 217 [00:19:35] <Rocket2DMn> I will try and organize a Wiki FG in a month or so, after the upcoming bugjam has come and gone and we get closer to Jaunty.
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 219 [00:19:46] <bodhi_zazen> thanks Rocket2DMn
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 221 [00:19:53] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: When is the doc jam thing?
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 223 [00:20:03] <Rocket2DMn> not a doc jam nhandler , bugjam
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 225 [00:20:14] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: I thought jono had organized a doc jam too
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 227 [00:20:27] <w4ett> jamesrfla the trick is to be able to focus on your one user you are trying to assist
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 229 [00:20:29] <Rocket2DMn> i havent heard about it nhandler
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 231 [00:20:34] <easwar> nhandler, yes,but what exactly is the use of voting on ourselves?The people who vote should be the people who are the recipients of our efforts
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 233 [00:20:46] <bodhi_zazen> Back on topic for a minute
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 235 [00:20:52] <ajmorris> \0/ OMG, hi w4ett
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 237 [00:20:58] <bodhi_zazen> any input / feedback on team leadership ?
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 239 [00:21:03] <bodhi_zazen> team goals ?
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 241 [00:21:07] <bodhi_zazen> personal goals ?
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 243 [00:21:11] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/02/04/rock-the-docs/
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 245 [00:21:15] <w4ett> hi ajmorris just back from red cross duties
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 247 [00:21:24] <bodhi_zazen> wb w4ett :)
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 249 [00:21:30] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I have a suggestion for the FGs
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 251 [00:21:33] <jamesrfla> I will try that w4ett
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 253 [00:21:37] <w4ett> thn Bodhi
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 255 [00:21:38] <bodhi_zazen> lets hear it nhandler
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 257 [00:21:45] <ajmorris> oh nice w4ett... we'll talk more when the meeting is done :)
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 259 [00:21:50] <w4ett> kk
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 261 [00:22:10] <nhandler> Most of them already have this, but I would like to propose that all FGs have at least 2 leaders. That way, if one goes inactive for a period of time, we can hopefully still have an active FG
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 263 [00:22:18] <bodhi_zazen> There seems to be continued confusion re: meetings / meeting times
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 265 [00:22:33] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I sent out a reminder. We also have the Google Calendar
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 267 [00:22:34 * easwar yawns
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 269 [00:22:38] <bodhi_zazen> I an not convinced the UTC 'thang works well
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 271 [00:22:44] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, yeah, 00:00 wed 11 could -- a wee bit confusing for people
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 273 [00:22:48] <brandon_p> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 275 [00:22:49] <easwar> bodhi_zazen, +1
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 277 [00:22:50] <Rocket2DMn> Another suggestion for FGs... Use the wiki! Keep your pages up to date. Some groups do this better than others, I'd be glad to help others get rolling with it
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 279 [00:22:59] <jamesrfla> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 281 [00:23:00] <bodhi_zazen> for those who are UTC impaired, please use gcal -> google calander
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 283 [00:23:08] <Bodsda> lol, impared
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 285 [00:23:21] <bodhi_zazen> meetings are posted on gcal and times are converted automagicaly from UTC to your time zone
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 287 [00:23:30] <ajmorris> what do you mean the UTC thing doesnt work well bodhi_zazen?... sometimes we have only the US times, which are useless to people like me
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 289 [00:23:38] <ajmorris> without UTC, im fscked
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 291 [00:23:42] <Bodsda> i like utc times :)
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 293 [00:23:42] <bodhi_zazen> so if you are confused re meetings, learn UTC or GCAL
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 295 [00:23:48] <jamesrfla> have both bodhi_zazen
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 297 [00:23:51] <ajmorris> im also too lazy to check gcal... so i need utc in the topic :P
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 299 [00:23:55] <jamesrfla> US and UTC
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 301 [00:24:04] <bodhi_zazen> jamesrfla: ajmorris we have BOTH already
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 303 [00:24:10] <easwar> bodhi_zazen, no problem with UTC timing,problem with the time you put in UTC
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 305 [00:24:10] <Bodsda> ajmorris, i feel a web based python script coming along
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 307 [00:24:11] <bodhi_zazen> and will continue with both
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 309 [00:24:16] <ajmorris> i know bodhi_zazen...
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 311 [00:24:32] <bodhi_zazen> I am UTC impaired :)
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 313 [00:24:33] <ajmorris> but bodhi_zazen, you said you're not convinved the UTC thing works well...
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 315 [00:24:38] <easwar> Bodsda, for adjusting time-zones?
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 317 [00:24:40 * ajmorris is confused...
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 319 [00:24:43] <ajmorris> what did you mean?
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 321 [00:24:45] <jamesrfla> maybe putting the UTC last...
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 323 [00:24:46] <bodhi_zazen> ajmorris yes, it seems to cause confusion
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 325 [00:25:03] <Bodsda> easwar, for getting the times -- yeah
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 327 [00:25:13] <ajmorris> tbh, i think votebot should have a meeting time function, that lets each user input their timezone, and it spits out the meeting time and date
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 329 [00:25:15] <bodhi_zazen> kk
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 331 [00:25:25] <Bodsda> nice idea
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 333 [00:25:26] <bodhi_zazen> leadership questions ?
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 335 [00:25:36] <nhandler> ajmorris: There is a bug preventing it from fetching the meeting time from the wiki on bodhi's server
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 337 [00:25:38] <bodhi_zazen> everyone happy with FG leaders ?
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 339 [00:25:48] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, central location for lists of leaders is where..?
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 341 [00:25:56] <nhandler> On the wiki Bodsda
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 343 [00:25:58] <Rocket2DMn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups
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 345 [00:25:58] <ajmorris> it could fetch it from gcal nhandler?
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 347 [00:25:59] <bodhi_zazen> any FG leads who want co-leads ?
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 349 [00:26:02] <Bodsda> nhandler, uh huh which one
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 351 [00:26:03] <nhandler> o/
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 353 [00:26:08] <Bodsda> oh thanks Rocket2DMn
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 355 [00:26:11] <bodhi_zazen> for the team to grow we need the FG to grow
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 357 [00:26:25 * Bodsda nominates /me for co-leader
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 359 [00:26:26] <easwar> *FGs
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 361 [00:26:26] <nhandler> Bodsda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings has it too
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 363 [00:26:32] <bodhi_zazen> nhandler: yes ?
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 365 [00:26:35] <Bodsda> cheers
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 367 [00:26:47] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I was just saying that I wanted a co-leader ;)
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 369 [00:26:56] <DrSmall> present
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 371 [00:27:03] <Bodsda> DrSmall, for me?
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 373 [00:27:04] <bodhi_zazen> I think I will let the FG teams / leads discuss co-leads
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 375 [00:27:11] <w4ett> nhandler pick one lol :P
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 377 [00:27:18] <AdamDV2> DrSmall :D
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 379 [00:27:22] <bodhi_zazen> if you want imput on FG leads, become involved with the team ;)
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 381 [00:27:27 * nathangrubb sounds the DrSmall alarm
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 383 [00:27:34] <Snova> nathangrubb: I was just thinking this was your fault.
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 385 [00:27:41] <DrSmall> this is the first time in awhile that I've been able to get here
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 387 [00:27:48] <nathangrubb> Snova: ?
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 389 [00:27:55 * easwar wonders what to do and watches everyone take cover
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 391 [00:28:03] <ajmorris> any more agenda items bodhi_zazen?
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 393 [00:28:08] <Snova> nathangrubb: Anybody else? :)
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 395 [00:28:18] <fedex1993> Hi ajmorrisand Rocket2DMn and Snova and DrSmall
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 397 [00:28:22] <nathangrubb> Snova: blame me for what?
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 399 [00:28:22] <easwar> Voting on Padawans
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 401 [00:28:25] <Bodsda> back on topic please guys
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 403 [00:28:30] <easwar> bodhi_zazen, ^
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 405 [00:28:32] <Rocket2DMn> hi fedex1993 , we're having a meeting right now
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 407 [00:28:34] <bodhi_zazen> I do not have any more items, BUT
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 409 [00:28:36] <DrSmall> sorry Bodsda
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 411 [00:28:41] <Bodsda> ty
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 413 [00:28:41] <zu22> DrSmall: we meet at last :) i have seen you on ACC
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 415 [00:28:46] <bodhi_zazen> I would like team input on growth / direction of the team
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 417 [00:28:48] <ajmorris> easwar does bodhi_zazen :0
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 419 [00:28:54] <zu22> bodhi_zazen: your snort guide kicked ass
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 421 [00:28:54] <DrSmall> zu22: shh
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 423 [00:29:04] <bodhi_zazen> thanks zu :)
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 425 [00:29:17] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, I like the way new faces keep cropping up, im not liking how they only crop up once or twice, are we doing enough to keep them?
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 427 [00:29:38] <ajmorris> Bodsda, you cant really do enough to keep them...
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 429 [00:29:45] <easwar> Bodsda, we probably need the niceties going
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 431 [00:29:50] <bodhi_zazen> I think recruitment can be improved, but on the other hand the motivated ones stay regardless ;)
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 433 [00:30:01] <ajmorris> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 435 [00:30:05] <bodhi_zazen> and I like that the team is low key, ie not a ego thing
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 437 [00:30:11] <ajmorris> if a new user crops up, but isnt really motivated, they leave
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 439 [00:30:17] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, yes, but would the non-motivated be more likely to get motivated if they felt more welcome?
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 441 [00:30:31] <bodhi_zazen> Possible Bodsda
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 443 [00:30:41 * easwar feels strangled between +1 Bodsda and +1 bodhi_zazen
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 445 [00:30:48 * nhandler runs to dinner
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 447 [00:30:56] <Bodsda> sometimes the discussions in this channel can be very very 'scary' to a new user
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 449 [00:30:57] <ajmorris> lol, the non-motivated users might stick around the IRC channel if they feel more welcome...
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 451 [00:31:07] <ajmorris> i cant see that helping them to stay and be *active* in the team...
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 453 [00:31:16] <brandon_p> +1 ajmorris
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 455 [00:31:19] <easwar> +1 ajmorris
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 457 [00:31:21] <Bodsda> ajmorris, they may just be shy?
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 459 [00:31:25] <bodhi_zazen> may I assume that we are all on board with the general goals / leadership I laid out for the team then ?
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 461 [00:31:26] <w4ett> ajmorris: it's the excitement of the new user at work regarding motivation
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 463 [00:31:37] <Rocket2DMn> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 465 [00:31:42] <PartyBoi2> +! bodhi_zazen
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 467 [00:31:44] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, yep
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 469 [00:31:45] <w4ett> the candle burns brightly at first
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 471 [00:31:46] <ajmorris> yep bodhi_zazen
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 473 [00:31:49] <easwar> +1 bodhi_zazen
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 475 [00:31:51] <bodhi_zazen> kk
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 477 [00:31:51] <sdennie> Yeah
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 479 [00:31:55] <Rocket2DMn> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/MissionStatement
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 481 [00:31:59] <easwar> w4ett, and at the end too
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 483 [00:32:15] <ajmorris> brandon_p, can you change your name back to perlluver plz... its confusing... unless brandon_p is your new nick completely...
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 485 [00:32:16] <w4ett> easwar: you are right
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 487 [00:32:23] <brandon_p> sorry ajmorris
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 489 [00:32:33] <bodhi_zazen> If ANYONE would like guidance / input or assistance with personal goals and / or team involvement, please as either myself or the FG leads / co leads :)
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 491 [00:32:37] <jamesrfla> Hey zu22
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 493 [00:32:44] <bodhi_zazen> There is a lot we can do to grow
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 495 [00:32:53] <zu22> jamesrfla: hey man
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 497 [00:33:01] <bodhi_zazen> And I would like to see the irc mentoring sessions be our next goal
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 499 [00:33:15] <bodhi_zazen> we need teachers, documentation, and advertisement
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 501 [00:33:19] <ajmorris> hehe, tks perlluver :P its just i was about to ask who is brandon_p when i noticed your vHost :P
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 503 [00:33:20] <Rocket2DMn> Guys, if you want to be on a FG, add your name to the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups - this is THE MASTER LIST
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 505 [00:33:27] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, advertisement, how do we do this exactly?
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 507 [00:33:29] <bodhi_zazen> I set up a shared ssh session so we can teach the CLI
 508 
 509 [00:33:31] <Rocket2DMn> FG leads will ping you if your name is on that list, otherwise they dont know
 510 
 511 [00:33:34] <bodhi_zazen> lets use it ;)
 512 
 513 [00:33:51] <easwar> danielvoicu is a PR guy
 514 
 515 [00:34:04] <easwar> though haven't seen him in a long time
 516 
 517 [00:34:06] <bodhi_zazen> advertisement on the forums, posting mentoring sessions, ##beginners-help, LP ect
 518 
 519 [00:34:07] <Rocket2DMn> I have a question/suggestion for FG leads.
 520 
 521 [00:34:17] <bodhi_zazen> sure Rocket2DMn
 522 
 523 [00:34:39] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, forums, like where? ##beginners-help is only filled with our guys
 524 
 525 [00:34:46] <Bodsda> im just unsure how to go about this
 526 
 527 [00:34:49] <Rocket2DMn> I just noticed that some FG pages have a listing of members, can we PLEASE keep the main FocusGroups page as the listing and not keep FG members listed on specific FG pages
 528 
 529 [00:35:21] <bodhi_zazen> ok with me ;)
 530 
 531 [00:35:22] <Rocket2DMn> ahem IRC and Development
 532 
 533 [00:35:27] <bodhi_zazen> up to the FG as well
 534 
 535 [00:35:38] <ajmorris> Rocket2DMn, sorry, will remove it once i can load the page :P
 536 
 537 [00:35:49] <ajmorris> my internet is foobarred atm
 538 
 539 [00:35:54] <Rocket2DMn> no hurry ajmorris , its just impossible to track users across a half dozen pages
 540 
 541 [00:35:56] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: ##beginners-help can be advertised on #ubuntu
 542 
 543 [00:36:00] <bodhi_zazen> or elsewhere
 544 
 545 [00:36:04] <easwar> lo st33med
 546 
 547 [00:36:11] <ajmorris> -1 bodhi_zazen
 548 
 549 [00:36:12] <easwar> oops, stunatra
 550 
 551 [00:36:25] <ajmorris> you cant advertise ##beginners-help on #ubuntu
 552 
 553 [00:36:32] <Bodsda> no no no
 554 
 555 [00:36:36] <ajmorris> other than inviting a single user to join it
 556 
 557 [00:36:41] <Bodsda> they will not be happy bunnies with that
 558 
 559 [00:36:44] <easwar> +1 ajmorris
 560 
 561 [00:36:47] <jamesrfla> maybe make that channel # instead of ## before we advertise it and get more people in there
 562 
 563 [00:36:51] <bodhi_zazen> well, invite by PM if a new user need help on #ubuntu
 564 
 565 [00:36:58] <ajmorris> jamesrfla, we cant
 566 
 567 [00:37:16] <bodhi_zazen> one # = official channels , ## = unofficial channels
 568 
 569 [00:37:18] <Bodsda> jamesrfla, ## is for unnofficial channels
 570 
 571 [00:37:24] <ajmorris> beginners-help is not an official project, so it has to have two '#' however, if you join #beginners-help, im sure you will get a nice surprise
 572 
 573 [00:37:50] <easwar> ajmorris, channel ops?
 574 
 575 [00:37:52] <jamesrfla> I know the difference
 576 
 577 [00:38:02] <bodhi_zazen> kk
 578 
 579 [00:38:05] <DrSmall> goodnight fellas. I'm going to try upgrading arch.
 580 
 581 [00:38:14] <bodhi_zazen> luck DrSmall
 582 
 583 [00:38:14] <Snova> Night DrSmall.
 584 
 585 [00:38:17] <ajmorris> lol easwar, no, #beginners-help forwards to ##beginners-help
 586 
 587 [00:38:26] <ajmorris> gnight DrSmall
 588 
 589 [00:38:28] <bodhi_zazen> Any other agenda items ?
 590 
 591 [00:38:31] <easwar> ajmorris, found out
 592 
 593 [00:38:37] <bodhi_zazen> or shall we vote in new members ?
 594 
 595 [00:38:38] <jamesrfla> new members?
 596 
 597 [00:38:38 * easwar expected that
 598 
 599 [00:38:52] <ajmorris> i believe easwar had one re: padawan voting bodhi_zazen
 600 
 601 [00:38:52] <Rocket2DMn> lets move on to new members now
 602 
 603 [00:38:58] <jamesrfla> I have a new guy standing by but he hasn't done test
 604 
 605 [00:39:12] <bodhi_zazen> who jamesrfla ?
 606 
 607 [00:39:16] <easwar> ajmorris, same as what bodhi_zazen is doing now
 608 
 609 [00:39:18] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: zu22
 610 
 611 [00:39:30] <ajmorris> oh, kk easwar :)
 612 
 613 [00:39:41] <Rocket2DMn> i dont think ive seen zu in here before
 614 
 615 [00:39:45] <bodhi_zazen> hmm, I do not know zu22 , my fault really
 616 
 617 [00:39:47] <easwar> :P
 618 
 619 [00:39:50 * easwar neither
 620 
 621 [00:39:53] <easwar> lo lukjad007
 622 
 623 [00:39:57] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, since when was DrSmall in here?
 624 
 625 [00:39:58] <Bodsda> wb lukjad007
 626 
 627 [00:40:04] <lukjad007> Hey easwar
 628 
 629 [00:40:05] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: hellow knows him and I do too
 630 
 631 [00:40:08] <lukjad007> I'm in time?
 632 
 633 [00:40:09] <Bodsda> ibuclaw, since 10 mins ago
 634 
 635 [00:40:12] <Snova> ibuclaw: A couple of minutes ago...
 636 
 637 [00:40:12] <Bodsda> lukjad007, indeed
 638 
 639 [00:40:13] <Snova> lukjad007: Yes.
 640 
 641 [00:40:15] <ibuclaw> he hasn't shown his face round here for a while
 642 
 643 [00:40:23] <easwar> lukjad007, a half hour late
 644 
 645 [00:40:27] <lukjad007> :(
 646 
 647 [00:40:43] <ajmorris> yep ibuclaw, first time in almost a year i'd wager :P
 648 
 649 [00:40:53] <Bodsda> id place a similar bet
 650 
 651 [00:41:00] <Bodsda> anyway back on topic
 652 
 653 [00:41:12 * easwar hasn't been around for a year to place ay bets
 654 
 655 [00:41:13] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, one awesome year full of curses, beatings and cussing :)
 656 
 657 [00:41:16] <easwar> *any
 658 
 659 [00:41:18] <bodhi_zazen> Lets start with th e3 who have been put on the agenda
 660 
 661 [00:41:23] <ajmorris> lmao ibuclaw
 662 
 663 [00:41:30] <zu22> bodhi_zazen: i am on UF as hyperyoda
 664 
 665 [00:41:48] <zu22> i usually hang out in #grubbn and ##club-ubuntu
 666 
 667 [00:41:51] <bodhi_zazen> wb vantrax :)
 668 
 669 [00:42:03] <vantrax> heya
 670 
 671 [00:42:11] <ajmorris> hey vantrax
 672 
 673 [00:42:11] <bodhi_zazen> kk zu22 , np .. wait for a moment please
 674 
 675 [00:42:26] <vantrax> still on holidays in canada, but managed to find some free time
 676 
 677 [00:42:34] <ajmorris> ok, bodhi_zazen, who's up for membership this morning?
 678 
 679 [00:42:39] <bodhi_zazen> easwar : you are up
 680 
 681 [00:42:40] <zu22> bodhi_zazen: ok
 682 
 683 [00:42:47] <easwar> yes
 684 
 685 [00:42:50] <easwar> and Snova
 686 
 687 [00:42:53] <bodhi_zazen> tell us briefly of yourself ;)
 688 
 689 [00:42:55] <easwar> and jgoguen
 690 
 691 [00:43:26] <bodhi_zazen> ho wlong have you been using Ubuntu and how do you see yourself on the team ?
 692 
 693 [00:43:37 * easwar is a Third Year Engineering student,Electronics and Communications,Univ of Bombay,India
 694 
 695 [00:43:49] <easwar> using Ubuntu,since Sep 06
 696 
 697 [00:43:51] <bodhi_zazen> weee hooo :0
 698 
 699 [00:44:03] <easwar> on the team,installations guy
 700 
 701 [00:44:20] <bodhi_zazen> Shall we vote ?
 702 
 703 [00:44:32] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " easwar for membership"
 704 
 705 [00:44:32] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On: easwar for membership
 706 
 707 [00:44:32] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
 708 
 709 [00:44:32] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
 710 
 711 [00:44:35] <jamesrfla> one sec bodhi_zazen
 712 
 713 [00:44:37] <perlluver> +1
 714 
 715 [00:44:38] <PartyBoi2> +1
 716 
 717 [00:45:07] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 718 
 719 [00:45:10] <bodhi_zazen> .status
 720 
 721 [00:45:15] <w4ett> +1
 722 
 723 [00:45:16] <Bodsda> +1
 724 
 725 [00:45:27] <nathangrubb> +1
 726 
 727 [00:45:38] <jamesrfla> wait up for my vote bodhi_zazen
 728 
 729 [00:45:47] <bodhi_zazen> kk jamesrfla ;)
 730 
 731 [00:45:57] <Bodsda> if he can type that why cant he type +!?
 732 
 733 [00:46:03] <perlluver> heh
 734 
 735 [00:46:05] <jamesrfla> +1
 736 
 737 [00:46:06] <bodhi_zazen> votebot lags when we vote, lol
 738 
 739 [00:46:07] <Bodsda> lol
 740 
 741 [00:46:10] <easwar> lol
 742 
 743 [00:46:36] <bodhi_zazen> any other votes ?
 744 
 745 [00:46:44] <ajmorris> thats because perl FAILs Bodsda
 746 
 747 [00:46:44] <jamesrfla> i'm done
 748 
 749 [00:46:52] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
 750 
 751 [00:46:52] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On: easwar for membership
 752 
 753 [00:46:53] <VoteBot> 10 People Voted. 10 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.
 754 
 755 [00:46:58] <Bodsda> w00t +<insert large number here> ajmorris
 756 
 757 [00:47:02] <bodhi_zazen> Welcome easwar :)
 758 
 759 [00:47:04] <jamesrfla> not another perl python fight
 760 
 761 [00:47:05] <PartyBoi2> congrats easwar
 762 
 763 [00:47:09] <Bodsda> congrats easwar
 764 
 765 [00:47:09] <perlluver> congrats easwar
 766 
 767 [00:47:11] <easwar> ty bodhi_zazen
 768 
 769 [00:47:11] <jamesrfla> Welcome to the team easwar
 770 
 771 [00:47:16] <w4ett> congrats
 772 
 773 [00:47:19] <Bodsda> jamesrfla, hell yeah
 774 
 775 [00:47:20] <ajmorris> gz easwar
 776 
 777 [00:47:23] <nhandler> Congrats easwar
 778 
 779 [00:47:30] <easwar> ty PartyBoi2 Bodsda perlluver jamesrfla w4ett ajmorris
 780 
 781 [00:47:32] <bodhi_zazen> next up is Snova
 782 
 783 [00:47:41] <easwar> ajmorris, gz?
 784 
 785 [00:47:43] <easwar> ty nhandler
 786 
 787 [00:47:53] <bodhi_zazen> Snova: you here ?
 788 
 789 [00:47:58] <Snova> Yes. :)
 790 
 791 [00:48:00] <bodhi_zazen> want to tell us of yourself ?
 792 
 793 [00:48:02] <ibuclaw> he is
 794 
 795 [00:48:09] <Snova> There's not much to say.
 796 
 797 [00:48:12] <w4ett> bbl
 798 
 799 [00:48:20] <ajmorris> easwar, gz = gratz (sorry, been playing mmorpgs too much lately)
 800 
 801 [00:48:21] <Bodsda> +!
 802 
 803 [00:48:28] <bodhi_zazen> how long have you been using Ubuntu and how do yo usee yourself on the team ?
 804 
 805 [00:48:30] <Bodsda> omg stop putting ! !!!
 806 
 807 [00:48:38] <easwar> oh
 808 
 809 [00:48:39] <Snova> Been using Ubuntu for a while, a year at least, I'd guess.
 810 
 811 [00:48:47] <bodhi_zazen> sweet ;)
 812 
 813 [00:49:14] <Snova> And I really can't say. It's nice to be helpful, I may as well join a team of people dedicated to the same.
 814 
 815 [00:49:34] <zu22> Ubuntu Live CD saved me when my laptop's hard disk controller died, I have been using Ubuntu Live CD for a full year now (I use it 100% as my only OS). I love Ubuntu and I am so thankful it saved my life.
 816 
 817 [00:49:35] <Bodsda> were meant to be helpful?
 818 
 819 [00:49:47] <perlluver> lol Bodsda
 820 
 821 [00:50:02] <ibuclaw> Bodsda, except you... because you are special
 822 
 823 [00:50:06 * Bodsda wonders how zu22 comes with not being able to save much
 824 
 825 [00:50:10] <Bodsda> ibuclaw, cheers :) w00t
 826 
 827 [00:50:17] <Bodsda> comes = copes
 828 
 829 [00:50:20] <zu22> Bodsda: i have a USB disk :)
 830 
 831 [00:50:28] <Bodsda> zu22, install it on that then
 832 
 833 [00:50:30] <zu22> It is slow but workable (USB 1.1).
 834 
 835 [00:50:39] <Bodsda> eeww, yuk
 836 
 837 [00:50:44] <zu22> Bossda: I can't my BIOS is so old it doesn't recognize USB disks on boot up :)
 838 
 839 [00:50:53] <Bodsda> uh oh
 840 
 841 [00:50:54] <zu22> My laptop was made in 1999.
 842 
 843 [00:51:00] <jamesrfla> o snap
 844 
 845 [00:51:01 * Bodsda hides
 846 
 847 [00:51:04] <jamesrfla> all hail bodhi_zazen
 848 
 849 [00:51:06] <ibuclaw> zu22, woot
 850 
 851 [00:51:12] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " Snova for membership"
 852 
 853 [00:51:12] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On: Snova for membership
 854 
 855 [00:51:12] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
 856 
 857 [00:51:12] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
 858 
 859 [00:51:16 * Rocket2DMn is too lazy to do his normal all hail
 860 
 861 [00:51:19] <Bodsda> +1
 862 
 863 [00:51:20] <PartyBoi2> +1
 864 
 865 [00:51:22] <jamesrfla> +1
 866 
 867 [00:51:26] <lukjad007> +2
 868 
 869 [00:51:27] <nhandler> +1+1
 870 
 871 [00:51:28] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 872 
 873 [00:51:29] <nhandler> +1
 874 
 875 [00:51:31] <Bodsda> ++
 876 
 877 [00:51:32] <easwar> +1
 878 
 879 [00:51:34] <zu22> :)
 880 
 881 [00:51:34] <lukjad007> +1
 882 
 883 [00:51:45] <jamesrfla> lukjad007: you can't vote
 884 
 885 [00:51:47 * lukjad007 hopes no one noticed he voted 3 times
 886 
 887 [00:51:53] <ibuclaw> haha
 888 
 889 [00:51:55] <lukjad007> jamesrfla, I know
 890 
 891 [00:52:00] <perlluver> heh
 892 
 893 [00:52:00] <Bodsda> lol
 894 
 895 [00:52:03] <Rocket2DMn> wow thats slow
 896 
 897 [00:52:03] <jamesrfla> hey
 898 
 899 [00:52:04] <Bodsda> harsh as
 900 
 901 [00:52:06] <lukjad007> Heehee
 902 
 903 [00:52:12] <jamesrfla> kicking our new team mate
 904 
 905 [00:52:19] <bodhi_zazen> anyone else wanting to vote ?
 906 
 907 [00:52:22] <Rocket2DMn> tough love
 908 
 909 [00:52:34] <Bodsda> lol
 910 
 911 [00:52:34] <PartyBoi2> wb easwar
 912 
 913 [00:52:35] <perlluver> wb easwar
 914 
 915 [00:52:39] <easwar> ty bodhi_zazen
 916 
 917 [00:52:41] <ibuclaw> wb sir easwar
 918 
 919 [00:52:43] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
 920 
 921 [00:52:44] <Bodsda> wb dude, nice shiny orange thing next to your name there
 922 
 923 [00:52:47] <easwar> I don't recall that with tal
 924 
 925 [00:52:47] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On: Snova for membership
 926 
 927 [00:52:50] <VoteBot> 9 People Voted. 9 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.
 928 
 929 [00:52:51] <ajmorris> ibuclaw, sir?!?!?!
 930 
 931 [00:52:53] <easwar> I don't recall that with talsemgeest
 932 
 933 [00:52:53] <Bodsda> congrats Snova
 934 
 935 [00:52:55] <jamesrfla> WB easwar bodhi_zazen can be a litte kicky
 936 
 937 [00:52:57] <bodhi_zazen> easwar: you can now vote and are entitled to !easwar
 938 
 939 [00:52:58] <Snova> Yay.
 940 
 941 [00:52:59] <PartyBoi2> congrats Snova
 942 
 943 [00:53:03] <nhandler> Congrats Snova
 944 
 945 [00:53:05] <easwar> lol Bodsda
 946 
 947 [00:53:05] <Bodsda> kick him
 948 
 949 [00:53:07] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, I am watching monty python
 950 
 951 [00:53:10] <ajmorris> jedi easwar would have been more appropriate, since he is no longer a padawan...
 952 
 953 [00:53:12] <perlluver> congrats Snova
 954 
 955 [00:53:22] <ibuclaw> "ooh look a rabbit"
 956 
 957 [00:53:23] <easwar> heh
 958 
 959 [00:53:37] <Snova> Ha! I had that on the clipboard. :)
 960 
 961 [00:53:40] <bodhi_zazen> welcome Snova
 962 
 963 [00:53:41] <bodhi_zazen> :)
 964 
 965 [00:53:41] <Bodsda> lol
 966 
 967 [00:53:42] <vantrax> grats snova
 968 
 969 [00:53:44] <Bodsda> wb Snova
 970 
 971 [00:53:48] <jamesrfla> Welcome to the team Snova
 972 
 973 [00:54:03] <Snova> And thank you all. :) (Since individually would be too long :P)
 974 
 975 [00:54:07] <bodhi_zazen> Next up jgoguen
 976 
 977 [00:54:20] <Bodsda> Snova, lousy son of a....
 978 
 979 [00:54:20] <vantrax> wow, quite the group
 980 
 981 [00:54:24] <bodhi_zazen> :)
 982 
 983 [00:54:34] <perlluver> jgoguen is not here
 984 
 985 [00:54:36] <jamesrfla> jgoguen isn't on freenode ATM
 986 
 987 [00:54:37] <Bodsda> lol
 988 
 989 [00:54:39] <bodhi_zazen> anyone wish to speak for jgoguen ?
 990 
 991 [00:54:47] <Rocket2DMn> we can vote anyway i think
 992 
 993 [00:54:50] <Bodsda> paultag would but...
 994 
 995 [00:54:55] <Bodsda> he aint here
 996 
 997 [00:55:07] <easwar> gratz Snova
 998 
 999 [00:55:10] <bodhi_zazen> He has my support (anyone how can iptables is "OK" in my book, lol)
1000 
1001 [00:55:22] <Snova> I might put in a word for him... he seems to have founded a LoCo.
1002 
1003 [00:55:23] <ibuclaw> haha bodhi_zazen >:)
1004 
1005 [00:55:25] <jamesrfla> he can do uptables?
1006 
1007 [00:55:26] <easwar> ?
1008 
1009 [00:55:30] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " jgoguen for membership"
1010 
1011 [00:55:30] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On: jgoguen for membership
1012 
1013 [00:55:30] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
1014 
1015 [00:55:30] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
1016 
1017 [00:55:31] <jamesrfla> *iptables?
1018 
1019 [00:55:33] <perlluver> +1
1020 
1021 [00:55:34] <Bodsda> iptables jamesrfla
1022 
1023 [00:55:34] <PartyBoi2> +1
1024 
1025 [00:55:36] <nhandler> +1
1026 
1027 [00:55:36] <Snova> +1
1028 
1029 [00:55:37] <Bodsda> +1
1030 
1031 [00:55:39] <ibuclaw> +1
1032 
1033 [00:55:43] <bodhi_zazen> +1
1034 
1035 [00:55:48] <easwar> +1
1036 
1037 [00:55:57] <jamesrfla> one sec again
1038 
1039 [00:56:01] <perlluver> heh
1040 
1041 [00:56:03] <bodhi_zazen> jamesrfla: zu22 : http://bodhizazen.net/beginners/Firewall/index.html
1042 
1043 [00:56:10] <easwar> lol jamesrfla
1044 
1045 [00:56:12] <ibuclaw> jamesrfla, iptables == Linux Firewall
1046 
1047 [00:56:12] <Bodsda> again would it not have been easier to type +1 lol
1048 
1049 [00:56:27] <ibuclaw> Bodsda, not in Australia, apparently
1050 
1051 [00:56:30] <jamesrfla> I know what iptables is guys
1052 
1053 [00:56:37] <Bodsda> ibuclaw, is he missing a + key?
1054 
1055 [00:56:38] <_Cloud_> +1
1056 
1057 [00:56:43] <jamesrfla> +1
1058 
1059 [00:56:52] <Bodsda> morning _Cloud_
1060 
1061 [00:56:52] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
1062 
1063 [00:57:01] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On: jgoguen for membership
1064 
1065 [00:57:03] <ibuclaw> Bodsda, maybe the + key plays hide and seek
1066 
1067 [00:57:04] <ajmorris> lol ibuclaw?!?
1068 
1069 [00:57:11] <VoteBot> 12 People Voted. 12 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.
1070 
1071 [00:57:13] <jamesrfla> Just didn't know why you guys were so happy about a guy doing iptables
1072 
1073 [00:57:16] <_Cloud_> evening Bodsda =p
1074 
1075 [00:57:18] <ajmorris> what does iptables = in australia ibuclaw? im intrigued..
1076 
1077 [00:57:22] <nhandler> I would like to remind all new BT Members to send me their Launchpad name so that I can add you to the team there.
1078 
1079 [00:57:40] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, not iptables .... typing in +1
1080 
1081 [00:57:40] <Snova> nhandler: How and where?
1082 
1083 [00:57:52] <nhandler> Snova: Just /msg it to me
1084 
1085 [00:57:54] <bodhi_zazen> OK, that is the 3 on the agenda
1086 
1087 [00:57:58] <ajmorris> oh ibuclaw, lol, jamesrfla isnt in australia btw...
1088 
1089 [00:58:02] <bodhi_zazen> any others we should consider today ?
1090 
1091 [00:58:09] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, he is
1092 
1093 [00:58:17] <ibuclaw> check the BT map
1094 
1095 [00:58:29] <st33med> Who pinged meh?
1096 
1097 [00:58:32] <ajmorris> he's in the us...
1098 
1099 [00:58:36] <perlluver> lol st33med
1100 
1101 [00:58:37] <jamesrfla> Current location is N Ft. myers, fl
1102 
1103 [00:58:38] <Bodsda> bodhi_zazen, you not doing lukjad007?
1104 
1105 [00:58:41] <bodhi_zazen> lukjad007: or tim_sharitt: ?
1106 
1107 [00:58:42] <st33med> Who dare disturb the dragon
1108 
1109 [00:58:46] <st33med> SAY NI!
1110 
1111 [00:58:46] <Bodsda> lukjad007,
1112 
1113 [00:58:46 * easwar did
1114 
1115 [00:58:49] <st33med> His
1116 
1117 [00:58:51] <Bodsda> NI
1118 
1119 [00:58:53] <easwar> st33med, by mistake
1120 
1121 [00:58:54] <st33med> *HISSSSSSSSSSSS
1122 
1123 [00:58:58] <st33med> That's fine
1124 
1125 [00:58:58] <ajmorris> ibuclaw... bt map is wrong :P
1126 
1127 [00:59:21] <bodhi_zazen> lukjad007: you here ?
1128 
1129 [00:59:23 * easwar had Tab failure,wanted to greet stunatra
1130 
1131 [00:59:24] <lukjad007> I am
1132 
1133 [00:59:29] <jamesrfla> So meeting over?
1134 
1135 [00:59:35] <bodhi_zazen> you want to tell us about yourself ?
1136 
1137 [00:59:38] <Bodsda> no jamesrfla
1138 
1139 [00:59:51] <bodhi_zazen> how long have you been using Ubuntu / how do you see yourself on the team ?
1140 
1141 [00:59:51] <jamesrfla> oh lukjad007 is next
1142 
1143 [00:59:57] <lukjad007> bodhi_zazen, you are speaking to me?
1144 
1145 [01:00:01] <st33med> Wait, I thought the meeting was tomorrow!
1146 
1147 [01:00:02] <bodhi_zazen> yes :)
1148 
1149 [01:00:06] <lukjad007> Okay
1150 
1151 [01:00:07] <st33med> "|
1152 
1153 [01:00:07] <bodhi_zazen> sort of ...
1154 
1155 [01:00:19] <Bodsda> st33med, it is tomorrow, this is next months meeting silly
1156 
1157 [01:00:28] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, well I'll be damned then
1158 
1159 [01:00:30] <lukjad007> I've been using Ubuntu since Dapper Drake, in 2006
1160 
1161 [01:00:31] <jamesrfla> lol st33med was confused too. I was right yes!!!!
1162 
1163 [01:00:31] <st33med> "|
1164 
1165 [01:00:49] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, Florida might as well be Australia
1166 
1167 [01:00:54] <bodhi_zazen> Dapper, blast from the past for sure ;)
1168 
1169 [01:00:54 * easwar woke up (too)early
1170 
1171 [01:00:59] <ajmorris> ibuclaw NEVAR!
1172 
1173 [01:01:00] <lukjad007> I jumped from Windows 98 so really appreciated it that much more.
1174 
1175 [01:01:16 * Bodsda starts shivering at the sound of win98
1176 
1177 [01:01:20] <perlluver> lol
1178 
1179 [01:01:28] <Rocket2DMn> dos based] <3
1180 
1181 [01:01:31] <jamesrfla> Windows 98 wow that is old
1182 
1183 [01:01:34] <ajmorris> why Bodsda? windows 98 wasnt that bad...
1184 
1185 [01:01:36] <bodhi_zazen> 5.04 or me >:)
1186 
1187 [01:01:39] <jamesrfla> Windows 3.11!!!
1188 
1189 [01:01:40] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, full of Primaeval people
1190 
1191 [01:01:41] <ajmorris> better that the crap they spat out after it
1192 
1193 [01:01:42] <ajmorris> *than
1194 
1195 [01:01:51] <easwar> Bodsda, you should freeze when I say WinME then
1196 
1197 [01:01:56] <bodhi_zazen> shall we vote for lukjad007 ?
1198 
1199 [01:01:59] <Bodsda> ajmorris, i spent three hours trying to get a wrok around there modem set up on a vm with no serial ports -- it is a pain in the ass
1200 
1201 [01:02:00] <st33med> I hope me not participating in Ubuntu Forums right now is fine bodhi_zazen; school leaves me tired and I don't feel like doing anything :(
1202 
1203 [01:02:00] <lukjad007> My mother was using ME, so I also managed to get her to switch
1204 
1205 [01:02:02] <ajmorris> 98 is by far my favourite MS OS
1206 
1207 [01:02:06] <Bodsda> easwar, actually i like ME
1208 
1209 [01:02:09] <easwar> even I who haven't had too many BSODs had a hundred of 'em with ME
1210 
1211 [01:02:10] <bodhi_zazen> I guess 0 = postpone ;)
1212 
1213 [01:02:16] <Bodsda> vote
1214 
1215 [01:02:26] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " lukjad007 for membership"
1216 
1217 [01:02:26] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On: lukjad007 for membership
1218 
1219 [01:02:26] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
1220 
1221 [01:02:26] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
1222 
1223 [01:02:30] <PartyBoi2> +1
1224 
1225 [01:02:30] <perlluver> +!
1226 
1227 [01:02:30] <jamesrfla> +1
1228 
1229 [01:02:32] <nhandler> +1
1230 
1231 [01:02:32] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, Windows 7 is shaping up well for usage in Virtual Machines
1232 
1233 [01:02:33] <Bodsda> ++
1234 
1235 [01:02:34] <perlluver> +1
1236 
1237 [01:02:37] <easwar> vote
1238 
1239 [01:02:37] <Bodsda> +1
1240 
1241 [01:02:40] <st33med> +1
1242 
1243 [01:02:40] <bodhi_zazen> +1
1244 
1245 [01:02:43] <easwar> +1
1246 
1247 [01:02:50] <st33med> +NI
1248 
1249 [01:02:50] <Snova> +1
1250 
1251 [01:02:52] <ajmorris> ibuclaw, i still dont like windows 7 - ran it on a dual boot...
1252 
1253 [01:03:00] <Bodsda> congrats lukjad007
1254 
1255 [01:03:08] <lukjad007> Thanks Bodsda
1256 
1257 [01:03:09] <bodhi_zazen> ibuclaw: Windows 7 will be nutered just b4 release I'm sure ;)
1258 
1259 [01:03:09] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, the composition is a little piss poor
1260 
1261 [01:03:12] <ajmorris> especially when my HD isnt big enough for it... 15gb base is just too large
1262 
1263 [01:03:16] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
1264 
1265 [01:03:17] <Bodsda> erm just out of curiosity who usually asks the terminal velocity question?
1266 
1267 [01:03:26] <easwar> +1 bodhi_zazen
1268 
1269 [01:03:36] <easwar> compiledkernel?
1270 
1271 [01:03:40] <jamesrfla> ajmorris didn't know it was that big. How big is Ubuntu?
1272 
1273 [01:03:44] <bodhi_zazen> naw
1274 
1275 [01:03:45] <bodhi_zazen> bor
1276 
1277 [01:03:48] <bodhi_zazen> er, vor
1278 
1279 [01:03:49] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On: lukjad007 for membership
1280 
1281 [01:03:55] <jamesrfla> lag
1282 
1283 [01:03:58] <ibuclaw> and ribbon menus is a step in the completely wrong direction
1284 
1285 [01:03:58] <VoteBot> 12 People Voted. 12 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.
1286 
1287 [01:04:01] <PartyBoi2> congrats lukjad007
1288 
1289 [01:04:05] <nhandler> Congrats lukjad007
1290 
1291 [01:04:06] <lukjad007> Thanks PartyBoi2
1292 
1293 [01:04:09] <perlluver> gratz lukjad007
1294 
1295 [01:04:09] <easwar> jamesrfla, 5-6 GB,IIRC
1296 
1297 [01:04:14] <ajmorris> yeah, i also removed my subscription from ZDnet. I used to have respect for those guys... until they came out and said that windows 7 will finally be the death of linux
1298 
1299 [01:04:16] <jamesrfla> Welcome to the team lukjad007
1300 
1301 [01:04:25] <jamesrfla> great timing
1302 
1303 [01:04:27] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, lol
1304 
1305 [01:04:36] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, nay
1306 
1307 [01:04:42] <lukjad007> !yay
1308 
1309 [01:04:42] <perlluver> wb lukjad007
1310 
1311 [01:04:42] <VoteBot> Glad you made it! :-)
1312 
1313 [01:04:43] <bodhi_zazen> wb lukjad007
1314 
1315 [01:04:43] <easwar> ribbon menus?
1316 
1317 [01:04:45] <jamesrfla> Welcome to the team lukjad007
1318 
1319 [01:04:45] <ajmorris> jamesrfla, it depends what ubuntu you install, my ubuntu is] <1gb i believe that the default live cd install is ~6 or something?
1320 
1321 [01:04:49] <ibuclaw> ajmorris, ReactOS will be the death of Windows =)
1322 
1323 [01:04:55] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: Is there anything else to discuss for the meeting?
1324 
1325 [01:04:56] <bodhi_zazen> tim_sharitt: you here ?
1326 
1327 [01:04:58] <lukjad007> Thanks all
1328 
1329 [01:05:03] <zu22> this song kicks ass: tinyurl.com/letthesunshine it should be the official Ubuntu song :)
1330 
1331 [01:05:07] <bodhi_zazen> nhandler: tim_sharitt membership
1332 
1333 [01:05:12] <nhandler> :)
1334 
1335 [01:05:12] <Rocket2DMn> lets close this meeting out, its been an hour
1336 
1337 [01:05:15] <ibuclaw> hell ... Windows XP may be the death of Windows
1338 
1339 [01:05:17] <Rocket2DMn> ah one more?
1340 
1341 [01:05:17] <bodhi_zazen> I know tim_sharitt from the forums
1342 
1343 [01:05:19] <perlluver> +1 Rocket2DMn
1344 
1345 [01:05:24] <Bodsda> ibuclaw, hopefully
1346 
1347 [01:05:37] <bodhi_zazen> anyone second voting on tim_sharitt ?
1348 
1349 [01:05:40] <zu22> i want Ubuntu to spread over the entire earth
1350 
1351 [01:05:41 * easwar knows tim_sharitt from the webcam fiasco
1352 
1353 [01:05:42] <ajmorris> .meetinnnnnnnnnnnnng
1354 
1355 [01:05:45] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I second it
1356 
1357 [01:05:48 * easwar seconds
1358 
1359 [01:05:49] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, tim_sharitt is a lovely lad
1360 
1361 [01:05:57] <ajmorris> yep, lets vote on tim_sharitt
1362 
1363 [01:05:58] <jamesrfla> thirds
1364 
1365 [01:05:59] <Bodsda> zu22, why, so people can start writing more and more virus's for it?
1366 
1367 [01:06:01] <bodhi_zazen> .vote " tim_sharitt for membership"
1368 
1369 [01:06:01] <VoteBot> We Are Now Voting On: tim_sharitt for membership
1370 
1371 [01:06:02] <VoteBot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0
1372 
1373 [01:06:02] <VoteBot> You can also /msg VoteBot your vote
1374 
1375 [01:06:06] <perlluver> +1
1376 
1377 [01:06:07] <PartyBoi2> +1
1378 
1379 [01:06:08] <nhandler> +1
1380 
1381 [01:06:08] <zu22> Bodsda: lol
1382 
1383 [01:06:08] <bodhi_zazen> =1
1384 
1385 [01:06:11] <Bodsda> +1
1386 
1387 [01:06:13] <easwar> lol Bodsda
1388 
1389 [01:06:13] <bodhi_zazen> =1
1390 
1391 [01:06:15] <ibuclaw> he is a decent, hard working forum supporter
1392 
1393 [01:06:16] <lukjad007> +1
1394 
1395 [01:06:17] <easwar> +1
1396 
1397 [01:06:17] <ibuclaw> +1
1398 
1399 [01:06:18] <st33med> +NI
1400 
1401 [01:06:18] <bodhi_zazen> +1
1402 
1403 [01:06:19] <Snova> +!
1404 
1405 [01:06:19] <perlluver> lol bodhi_zazen
1406 
1407 [01:06:19] <bodhi_zazen> lol
1408 
1409 [01:06:20] <Snova> +1
1410 
1411 [01:06:21] <vantrax> +1
1412 
1413 [01:06:22] <Bodsda> double fail bodhi_zazen
1414 
1415 [01:06:29] <bodhi_zazen> pffttt
1416 
1417 [01:06:31] <easwar> lag
1418 
1419 [01:06:39] <bodhi_zazen> .vote
1420 
1421 [01:06:40] <ajmorris> w0w, that was the best lag spike ever...
1422 
1423 [01:06:42] <st33med> Perl fails much?
1424 
1425 [01:06:51] <easwar> yeah
1426 
1427 [01:06:52] <st33med> >.>
1428 
1429 [01:06:56] <bodhi_zazen> Any other items to discuss ?
1430 
1431 [01:06:58] <Bodsda> st33med, isnt that its description? FAIL
1432 
1433 [01:06:59] <jamesrfla> bodhi_zazen: do you have tim_sharitt UF profile link?
1434 
1435 [01:07:08] <ibuclaw> st33med, it's not the language that is the bottleneck
1436 
1437 [01:07:11] <ajmorris> it went from bodhi saying second on tim_sharitt, to all of the +1's being done... my internet sux0rs even more atm...
1438 
1439 [01:07:11] <easwar> sdennie, terminal velocity question
1440 
1441 [01:07:13] <ibuclaw> but the Network traffic
1442 
1443 [01:07:14] <bodhi_zazen> jamesrfla: not on hand
1444 
1445 [01:07:20] <jamesrfla> dam I missed the vote
1446 
1447 [01:07:24] <VoteBot> We Are Done Voting On: tim_sharitt for membership
1448 
1449 [01:07:31] <VoteBot> 12 People Voted. 12 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.
1450 
1451 [01:07:36] <bodhi_zazen> !lag | votebot
1452 
1453 [01:07:39] <jamesrfla> major lag
1454 
1455 [01:07:41] <VoteBot> votebot: You have lag, I don't have lag
1456 
1457 [01:07:41] <bodhi_zazen> w00t
1458 
1459 [01:07:42] <ajmorris> thats why you have been taking so long jamesrfla? to check out their uf profile?!?
1460 
1461 [01:07:52] <vantrax> not a bad ida
1462 
1463 [01:07:54] <vantrax> idea
1464 
1465 [01:07:54] <jamesrfla> yes ajmorris
1466 
1467 [01:08:19 * easwar went from easwar seconds to Bodsda's virus statement to bodhi_zazen =1
1468 
1469 [01:08:19] <perlluver> night fellas
1470 
1471 [01:08:24] <jamesrfla> hard to find them ajmorris sometimes
1472 
1473 [01:08:24] <ibuclaw> bye perlluver
1474 
1475 [01:08:28] <jamesrfla> cya perlluver
1476 
1477 [01:08:29] <ajmorris> night perlluver
1478 
1479 [01:08:29] <bodhi_zazen> If there are no more items to discuss we can all go back to having fun ;)
1480 
1481 [01:08:30] <Bodsda> easwar, lol
1482 
1483 [01:08:34] <Bodsda> cya perlluver
1484 
1485 [01:08:36] <jamesrfla> PARTY!!!!
1486 
1487 [01:08:37] <sdennie> The lag for VoteBot is because it the POE perl library throttles it to keep it from flooding and being kicked. The throttle can be unset though.
1488 
1489 [01:08:38] <ajmorris> heh, if meetings over, im gonna take a shower...
1490 
1491 [01:08:40] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: Do we have a date for the next meeting?
1492 
1493 [01:08:41 * Bodsda throws paper at everyone
1494 
1495 [01:08:43] <ibuclaw> bodhi_zazen, o/
1496 
1497 [01:08:47] <lukjad007> I'm off t' bed.
1498 
1499 [01:08:49] <vantrax> time for me to head to sleep:P
1500 
1501 [01:08:50] <lukjad007> G'night all.
1502 
1503 [01:08:52] <bodhi_zazen> .meeting
1504 
1505 [01:08:53] <VoteBot> =-=-=Meeting mode disabled=-=-= 


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