= Log of meeting on 05/19/09 = == General Agenda Items and Proposals == PLEASE COME TO THE MEETINGS PREPARED. This means: 1. If there is an issue for the team, add it to the agenda. 1. Agenda items then should be discussed "informally" on #ubuntufourms-beginners. 90 % of the discussion should have taken place before the meeting. The channel should be enjoyable for everyone, but keep in mind the purpose of the channel is to discuss team functions. 1. Ideally, meetings then are for decision making, team votes. Read the agenda and discuss your thoughts before the meeting. 10 % (or less) of the discussion should happen during the meeting. 1. Agenda items that require more then 5 minutes of discussion may need to be deferred. ||Who||What|| ||swoody||[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu#New%20User%20Network|Removing 'New User Network' in favor of UFBT?]]|| ||PartyBoi2|| Sending Agenda items to mailing list?|| ||Bodsda|| FG meetings time change from TBA to a real time (e.g can we have some fg meetings please)|| === Agenda discussion === ||Sending Agenda items to mailing list:||||When an agenda item is added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings should a email be sent to the mailing list for further discussion of agenda item?|| == Log == {{{#!IRC [00:00] #startmeeting [00:00] Meeting started at 18:00. The chair is bodhi_zazen. [00:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [00:00] :) [00:01] [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] [TOPIC] elections [00:01] New Topic: elections [00:02] last meeting we discussed elections of the FG leads [00:02] is this something the team is interested in ? [00:02] +1 [00:02] Or shall we allow bodhi_zazen to appoint ? [00:02] +1 [00:02] +1 [00:02] I prefer appointments [00:02] appointments [00:03] Should we vote ? [00:03] Is there anybody out there who wants to be a lead who currently isn't? If not, then it's a moot point [00:03] am i allowed to speak/agree/dissagree? [00:03] yes MontelEdwards [00:03] shweet [00:04] [VOTE] Elections ? +1 == elections -1 = appointment by bz [00:04] Please vote on: Elections ? +1 == elections -1 = appointment by bz. [00:04] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [00:04] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [00:04] +0 [00:04] Abstention received from bodhi_zazen. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 [00:04] +0 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from Snova. 0 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -1 [00:04] Abstention received from Rocket2DMn. 0 for, 1 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -1 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from paultag. 0 for, 2 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -2 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from thewrath. 0 for, 3 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from Ash_R. 0 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:04] +1 [00:04] -1 [00:04] +1 received from faolan. 1 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] -1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 5 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:04] +0 [00:04] Private +1 vote received. 2 for, 5 against, 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] Abstention received from PartyBoi2. 2 for, 5 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from lukjad007. 2 for, 6 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:04] +0 [00:04] Abstention received from ds305. 2 for, 6 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:05] +1 [00:05] -1 [00:05] -1 received from swoody. 2 for, 7 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -5 [00:05] +1 [00:05] +1 received from duanedesign. 3 for, 7 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:05] Anyone else ? [00:05] +0 [00:05] Abstention received from sdennie. 3 for, 7 against. 5 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:05] I thought we were going to be using votebot still for voting? [00:05] [ENDVOTE] [00:05] Final result is 3 for, 7 against. 5 abstained. Total: -4 [00:06] Votebot == too slow >:) [00:06] ok [00:06] we voted at last meeting to use Mootbot [00:06] OK, well that makes this meeting much shorter then :) [00:06] Haha [00:06] :) [00:07] Lets run the teams :) [00:07] sounds good [00:07] learning / education ? [00:07] Vantrax: poke :) [00:07] lrn2work [00:07] Vantrax|Work, good timing - anythin gto say on education fg? [00:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/ [00:07] busy busy busy [00:08] We are going to present out project to the CC on June 2nd [00:08] trip to community council soon, then a big announcment [00:08] bodhi_zazen, nice little packaged management tutorial :D [00:08] so if you have the time to support the idea, awesome [00:08] Cool, good luck! [00:08] Though, you should update a little more often [00:08] >.> [00:08] work checking the link there, at the bottom is a series of links on programs for you all to give your input [00:08] link st33med ? [00:08] nice wiki for the education fg [00:09] I am working on the server [00:09] trying to decide [00:09] bodhi_zazen, eh? I was talking about your work in your education class [00:09] apache vs lighttpd ? [00:09] sounds like an interesting project [00:09] mysql vs postrad ? [00:09] jamesrfla, that wiki isnt for the edu fg, the project is outside the BT, but the education FG is one of the primary contributors [00:09] bodhi_zazen: will you be hosting it at your house? [00:09] Oh, thanks st33med :) [00:09] no james [00:10] its colocated on an isp line [00:10] You said you updated every three months on your server >.> [00:10] bodhi_zazen, i bet pleia2 could have some good input for you on that [00:10] we have a new domain as well [00:10] ufbt.net [00:10] bodhi_zazen: you could if you had Oc.1 [00:10] OK [00:10] o/ [00:10] IRC FG ? [00:10] jamesrfla, this is not talk for the meeting :) bring it to -uf-begin [00:10] bodhi_zazen, Hola [00:10] So, I am talking over for Joeb on the IRC front [00:10] [TOPIC]IRC FG [00:10] New Topic: IRC FG [00:10] team page if anyone is interested https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning [00:11] I am looking to start expanding the IRC team a bit, working to include more people and help integrate more with the wider ubuntu community [00:11] paultag: update wiki pages please :) [00:11] We will be looking for interested members, and yes bodhi_zazen, I'll get to updating :) [00:11] any questions? [00:11] [TOPIC] Wiki FG [00:11] New Topic: Wiki FG [00:11] yes hi [00:12] Just to let you all know, the 2009 Summer of Documentation has started! [00:12] If you're interested in helping, please talk to me after the meeting. All contributions are welcome. [00:12] that is all :) [00:12] oh bodhi_zazen: could we talk a little about the new team domain? [00:13] i mean, later [00:13] yes MontelEdwards [00:13] later on in the meeting** [00:13] [TOPIC] Any other FG ? [00:13] New Topic: Any other FG ? [00:14] yes. i have a query [00:14] I would like to limit the discussion to major FG / updates ;) [00:14] What about the Stalker FG >.> [00:14] Forums are awwesome, thanks everyone :) [00:14] go Ash_R [00:14] The Stalker FG, it if existed, has no updates. [00:14] riiiiight [00:14] :) [00:14] st33med: I can neither confirm or deny the presence of Stalkers [00:14] what happened to the discussion about the euro/asian fg? i have not heard anything for a while [00:15] [00:15] I am in favor Ash_R [00:15] but I do not know if it came together [00:15] the point is to have meetings / discussions at alternate times [00:15] I saw lots of emails about it in my inbox :) [00:15] i would like to help set it up, if possible [00:15] I do not know if there is enough interest [00:15] coordinate with forest :) [00:16] What would happen if one FG came to one decision, but the other came to a radically differing one? [00:16] I would like to see it, primarily as a means of communication and involving regions outside of the US [00:16] bodhi_zazen is the king, he decides [00:16] Just wondering. [00:16] lukjad007: having a euro/asian fg would require somebody who attends the normal meetings [00:16] to attend the other meetings [00:16] yes, forest was going to coordinate [00:16] Joeb454 Well, I guess that makes sense [00:17] the point would be to allow the FG lead to vote by proxy as well ;) [00:17] i intend to try and go to both. [00:17] Joeb454 The next meeting is Friday, right? [00:17] any other FG ? [00:17] lukjad007: for what? =/ [00:17] Forum council [00:17] * lukjad007 is getting mixed up with all the acronyms [00:18] swoody: poke [00:18] * thewrath same here [00:18] [TOPIC] NUN [00:18] Alphabet soup, anyone? [00:18] New Topic: NUN [00:18] heya bodhi_zazen :) [00:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu#New%20User%20Network [00:18] NUN = dead [00:18] bodhi_zazen, shun! [00:18] The NUN have disbanded and are all but extinct [00:19] +1 for replacing :) [00:19] w/ UFBT [00:19] Delete@! [00:19] Do we have authority to replace that team? Who founded and coordinated it? [00:19] bodhi_zazen: +1 [00:19] UFBT replace NUN [00:19] [ACTION] bodhi_zazen to appoint FG leads [00:19] ACTION received: bodhi_zazen to appoint FG leads [00:19] [VOTE] Replace NUN with UFBT ? [00:19] Please vote on: Replace NUN with UFBT ?. [00:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [00:19] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [00:19] I had emailed both people listed as 'moderators' for the team, but no response from either one of them [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [00:19] + [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from Vantrax|Work. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from st33med. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [00:20] +1 [00:20] I am not sure we need to ask permission, it is a wiki, just edit I would think [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from swoody. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [00:20] +1 received from duanedesign. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from Ash_R. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7 [00:20] +1 [00:20] 0 [00:20] +1 received from lukjad007. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] Verify that we can first, maybe at the same CC meeting? [00:20] er [00:20] +0 [00:20] Abstention received from Joeb454. 8 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] nun=none, right? [00:20] +0 [00:20] Abstention received from ds305. 8 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] :P [00:20] NUN = New User Network [00:20] >.< [00:20] What was it? [00:20] I don't know much about what NUN or how we intend to replace it, but I like the sound of it [00:20] We can ask at June 2nd meeting ;) [00:20] +0 [00:20] Abstention received from nathangrubb. 8 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] exactly what is says [00:20] I don [00:20] I never heard of it, so I don't like it [00:20] [ENDVOTE] [00:20] Final result is 8 for, 0 against. 3 abstained. Total: 8 [00:20] dont know anything aobut it [00:21] it lasted for a month or two [00:21] it seems to mirror beginners team purpose [00:21] Competition? [00:21] great idea, burned bright, and burned out fast [00:21] Was it by Grant A? XD [00:21] [ACTION] Replace NUN => UFBT -> ask at June 2nd meeting (we should add that to the CC agenda) [00:21] ACTION received: Replace NUN => UFBT -> ask at June 2nd meeting (we should add that to the CC agenda) [00:21] swoody: ^^ [00:21] Partyboi ? [00:22] no party here I see >:) [00:22] Ha [00:22] parti left [00:22] PARTY? [00:22] WHERE? [00:22] bodhi_zazen: you want me to bring it up on the 2nd? [00:22] lol st33med [00:22] st33med Two doors to the left [00:22] put it on the agenda if you would ? [00:22] sure thing :) [00:22] * st33med enters the room to find several whores on the bed [00:22] you can put it under my name :) [00:22] ... [00:22] I will bring it up [00:22] lmao st33med haha [00:23] [TOPIC] UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list ? [00:23] New Topic: UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list ? [00:23] bodhi_zazen: ok, will do :) [00:23] I would +1 that if someone wants to do it [00:23] 0 [00:23] personally , IMO, that is what we use a wiki page for [00:23] * lukjad007 rides the fence [00:23] bodhi_zazen: what would you have to do? [00:23] I think it should be up to whoever adds an item to the agenda - if they feel it should go to the list, then they can start the thread [00:23] and that is why one can subscribe to wiki pages >:) [00:23] generate an email based on wiki page [00:24] doesn't seem to hard [00:24] it would be a nice idea to sent it out the day before [00:25] So send a e-mail with the agenda on it. Would a like to the wiki meeting page work? [00:26] thats sn idea [00:26] As I said, I do not mind an email, but someone else will need to volunteer to generate the email :) [00:26] i like the idea [00:27] No bods ? [00:27] i vote wiki FG to do it:P [00:27] Bods poke :) [00:27] sorry lost power for a second [00:27] Vantrax|Work, i decline [00:27] I'm not doing other people's work for them [00:27] have stalking FG do it [00:27] duanedesign +1 [00:27] duanedesign: +1 [00:28] Carried [00:28] >:) [00:28] [Action] Email UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list the day before if we have a volunteer to do it, otherwise subscribe to meeting page please :) [00:28] ACTION received: Email UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list the day before if we have a volunteer to do it, otherwise subscribe to meeting page please :) [00:28] And I think that is it :) [00:28] any other agenda items ? [00:29] domain.... [00:29] [TOPIC] NEW MEMBERS [00:29] New Topic: NEW MEMBERS [00:29] My favourate part [00:29] TuxPurple has been nominated for membership :) [00:29] :) [00:29] hooray :) [00:29] -9000 [00:29] TuxPurple ! [00:29] bodhi_zazen: I might be able to do the volunteer job. I just need something to remind my self that I need to do but all I need is a note [00:29] j/k [00:29] He needs no introduction, he is a penguin, he's purple .... [00:29] +2 [00:29] +++ [00:29] thats almost as good as pink! [00:30] +10 [00:30] ha [00:30] +30 [00:30] anyone have any questions b4 we vote ? [00:30] link to wiki page? [00:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] can we have tazmanian devils in the team ;) [00:30] thanks [00:30] who is his master? [00:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] forest [00:30] TuxPurple do you promise to uphold the laws and regulations govern... [00:30] [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] Vantrax|Work, forestpixie [00:31] master = forest, who is not here :( [00:31] Ash_R: For the 2.6.29 kernel, the official icon was actually changed from a penguin to a tazmanian devil. [00:31] ... [00:31] if pixie thinks he's ready thats enough for me [00:31] [VOTE] TuxPurple for membership [00:31] Please vote on: TuxPurple for membership. [00:31] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [00:31] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from swoody. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from sdennie. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Ash_R. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [00:31] +2 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Joeb454. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from lukjad007. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7 [00:31] +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:31] Private +1 vote received. 9 for, 0 against, 0 have abstained. Count is now 9 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from duanedesign. 10 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 10 [00:31] note... it was a tazmanian devil pretending to be a penguin [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from st33med. 11 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 11 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Vantrax|Work. 12 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 12 [00:31] +1 [00:32] lukjad007.... [00:32] Yes? [00:32] [ENDVOTE] [00:32] Final result is 12 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 12 [00:32] congratulations TuxPurple! [00:32] I just wanted to make sure he got a fair vote... [00:32] Congrats tuxlinux [00:32] [ACTION] Please welcome the Tux Purple :) [00:32] ACTION received: Please welcome the Tux Purple :) [00:32] thanks everyone :) [00:32] Congrats TuxPurple [00:32] cool, congrats! [00:32] hey TuxPurple [00:32] welcome [00:32] thank you :D [00:33] [TOPIC] ufbt.net [00:33] New Topic: ufbt.net [00:33] yes MontelEdwards ? [00:33] I registered a domain [00:33] how is ufbt going to be different from the wiki? what is its purpose? [00:34] will use it temp to host teh moodle project [00:34] ;) [00:34] Yes, i was thinking that we should brainstorm things for a homepage or either forwarding it to wiki, whatever team decides. [00:34] ah, i understand [00:35] +1 team ? [00:36] forward to wiki until we have a use for it id think [00:36] forward to wiki [00:36] I was going to park a home page soon, theme to match learning site ? [00:36] I think that a homepage would be nice, a list of members. Kinda a intro to the team [00:37] no, no, forward to UCLP [00:37] i thought we were going to use learn.ubuntu.com [00:37] bodhi_zazen, in that case sounds good [00:37] Any other topics ? [00:37] Rocket2DMn, we have to have something first:P [00:37] yeah, but why did we register ufbt.net? [00:37] we list team members on LP and I really do not want to duplicate work [00:38] If team members want a personal home page or something, I would host that [00:38] we could post Boudoir Photos of ourselves [00:38] bodhi_zazen: I will take the agenda e-mailing job. [00:38] +1 duanedesign :) [00:38] If team members want to practice / learn servers, I am offering VPS or cheap [00:38] this sounds an awfully lot like our wiki's [00:38] * MontelEdwards Rocket2DMn: had a free promo code for godaddy which he gave to bodhi_zazen [00:38] bodhi_zazen: how cheap? [00:39] 10 / month for 256 RAM + I think 5 Gb HD space [00:39] bodhi_zazen: I have been enjoying my VPSe a lot [00:39] + 10 for initial set up [00:39] and I will support you as time allows [00:39] bandwidth limits? [00:39] When you "grow up" , fivebean is probably a better deal [00:40] like if your dumb enough to shut off your ssh server:) [00:40] total of 500 Gb / month [00:40] fivebean :) all hail u-g! [00:40] divided , so I am asking team not to abuse it [00:40] bodhi_zazen: pay via paypal? [00:40] yes, I can send a requst for payment via paypal [00:40] contact me if you are interested [00:41] 256 Mb is a ton with VPS ;) [00:41] thats enough to run just about anything [00:41] k [00:41] bodhi_zazen: would we be able to do stuff with apache,. etc? [00:41] That's it for the meeting? [00:41]