20100914
Meeting page for meeting of September 14, 2010 at 23:00:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting
General Agenda Items and Proposals
Who |
What |
duanedesign |
Improving Mentor Program |
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Log
1 [00:36] <nhandler> #startmeeting
2 [00:36] <MootBot> Meeting started at 18:35. The chair is nhandler.
3 [00:36] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
4 [00:36] * pleia2 waves
5 [00:36] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
6 [00:36] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
7 [00:36] <nhandler> duanedesign: You around?
8 [00:36] * Silver_Fox_ waves at pleia2
9 [00:37] <Silver_Fox_> Why have we started so late ?
10 [00:37] <starcraftman> hey there Silver_Fox_ :)
11 [00:37] <collinp> Silver_Fox_: nhandler forgot.
12 [00:37] <collinp> I did too.
13 [00:37] <Silver_Fox_> I came in just to +1 phillw for membership
14 [00:37] <starcraftman> I blame the clocks! I say they are all wrong and we just spin them backwards.
15 [00:37] * Silver_Fox_ grumbles something about silly o'clock in the morning ;)
16 [00:38] <nhandler> Alright, does anyone else have any agenda items?
17 [00:38] <starcraftman> Uh, not really, I just got a new paddy recently. Nothing too important.
18 [00:39] <collinp> And I'm still trying to find time to revive the development focus group.
19 [00:39] <starcraftman> Oh and I submit an official request that all other team members playing starcraft2 message me so I can add them.
20 [00:39] <collinp> Mmh. nhandler, may I say something?
21 [00:39] <nhandler> Hmm...Looks like we have a lot of prospective members nominated this month
22 [00:39] <starcraftman> I guess that's not really that official.
23 [00:39] <nhandler> collinp: Go ahead
24 [00:40] <collinp> I'll be doing membership for the development team personally, by email. If you send me an email requesting membership, I'll review your credentials and either grant you said membership or assist you in getting the credentials.
25 [00:40] <collinp> This is going to the mailing list as well.
26 [00:40] <collinp> But I think it would be prudent to mention it here as well.
27 [00:41] <collinp> Technical term: Development -focus group-.
28 [00:41] <nhandler> collinp: Out of curiosity, why not make the LP team moderated and let people apply that way (and set yourself as the admin)
29 [00:41] <collinp> nhandler: Perhaps. I can't remember if I have admin access to the LP team.
30 [00:41] <collinp> Let me just check that.
31 [00:41] <nhandler> collinp: If not, poke me later and I can sort it out
32 [00:41] <komputes> I would like to announce that I will be switching to Maverick soon and welcome any bugs which affect a majority of uses for my TopBugs wiki page. Should anyone have bugs they would like to see increased in importance, please let me know in a PM or by email.
33 [00:41] <ibuclaw> o/
34 [00:42] <komputes> err... affect a majority of users
35 [00:42] <nhandler> Any other announcements?
36 [00:42] <Silver_Fox_> I scared of my latest padawan somehow
37 [00:42] <Silver_Fox_> ;)
38 [00:42] <collinp> heh.
39 [00:43] <collinp> Just as a general census, what team members are actually here?
40 [00:43] <nhandler> o/
41 [00:43] <Silver_Fox_> o/
42 [00:43] <pleia2> o/
43 [00:43] <komputes> o/
44 [00:43] <starcraftman> I can't be sure I actually exist anywhere.
45 [00:43] <komputes> lol
46 [00:43] <starcraftman> Strictly metaphically speaking.
47 [00:43] <Silver_Fox_> Have a cookie and think about it starcraftman
48 [00:43] <collinp> Ok, so that's pretty good.
49 [00:44] <zkriesse> Oops
50 [00:44] <collinp> Add zkriesse to that.
51 [00:44] <zkriesse> thought we were having it in bt
52 [00:44] <zkriesse> lol
53 [00:44] <starcraftman> Silver_Fox_: Excellent suggestion. I love cookies.
54 [00:44] <nhandler> [TOPIC] New Members
55 [00:44] <MootBot> New Topic: New Members
56 [00:44] <nhandler> phillw: You are up first. Can you say a few words about yourself and your contributions?
57 [00:45] <Silver_Fox_> It's quarter to 1 here nhandler , i expect he has gone to bed
58 [00:45] <nhandler> Silver_Fox_: He was around a minute ago, so I thought I'd ask
59 [00:45] <zkriesse> nhandler: can we have a vote anyway on phillw ?
60 [00:45] <phillw> hi, well, I'm me, my contributions to the begginers team is as per my logs on IRC and the forum area
61 [00:46] <paultag> Hey, am I late?
62 [00:46] <collinp> And paultag.
63 [00:46] <nhandler> paultag: Just in time. phillw is up now
64 [00:46] <zkriesse> hey ptag
65 [00:46] <paultag> Hell yes!
66 [00:46] <phillw> hi mentor, yes your are !!!#
67 [00:46] <paultag> Sorry all! Sorry!
68 [00:46] <starcraftman> paultag: not if you program a program to reset all our computers times :).
69 [00:46] <zkriesse> dont worry paultag I was late too
70 [00:46] <collinp> Ok, so we have a good number of team members.
71 [00:47] <phillw> my full contribution details and testimonials are on wiki page
72 [00:47] * nhandler -> dinner
73 [00:47] <zkriesse> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
74 [00:47] * paultag -> chair
75 [00:47] <paultag> yeah phillw, can you tell us a bit about yourself?
76 [00:47] <collinp> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
77 [00:47] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
78 [00:47] <paultag> phillw, its usually tradition to give a blurb
79 [00:47] <Silver_Fox_> paultag: fail
80 [00:47] <zkriesse> he just did paultag
81 [00:47] <Silver_Fox_> phillw did that already
82 [00:47] <paultag> Oh shucks
83 [00:48] <paultag> OK, rocken
84 [00:48] <zkriesse> lol
85 [00:48] <collinp> I guess I can handle the voting and junk.
86 [00:48] <paultag> Questions for phil, I open the floor
87 [00:48] <paultag> phill *
88 [00:48] * zkriesse has none
89 [00:48] <zkriesse> I've worked with Phill long enough..he deserves it
90 [00:48] <starcraftman> I got a question!
91 [00:48] <duaneipho> lo all
92 [00:48] <paultag> starcraftman, go
93 [00:48] <starcraftman> Does thou play Starcraft 2?
94 [00:48] <phillw> In a previous job, I was 2nd level support in an UNIX area, coming back what is ubuntu is a wonderful thing for me and I am a strong propentent of teaching and helping
95 [00:49] <pleia2> phillw did a great class for -classroom on lamp (I'd love to see more!)
96 [00:49] <paultag> Awesome
97 [00:49] <paultag> Well I see no reason to not vote
98 [00:49] <paultag> [vote] phillw for UBT membership
99 [00:49] <MootBot> paultag, Only the meeting chair can do that
100 [00:49] <collinp> [VOTE] phillw for membership
101 [00:49] <MootBot> collinp, Only the meeting chair can do that
102 [00:49] <zkriesse> And phillw is also kind enough to lend a hand to the #ubuntu-youth team when he has the time AND he's hosting our forum...so, KUDOS to phillw
103 [00:49] <collinp> Oh.
104 [00:49] <collinp> nhandler: Poke.
105 [00:49] <paultag> collinp, he's gone
106 [00:49] <collinp> This could be a problem.
107 [00:49] <paultag> let me hijack
108 [00:49] <collinp> Ok, lets just do it this way.
109 [00:49] <paultag> #endmeeting
110 [00:49] <duaneipho> +1
111 [00:50] <paultag> Grrr
112 [00:50] <paultag> OK
113 [00:50] <paultag> +1
114 [00:50] <pleia2> +1
115 [00:50] <collinp> +1 agreed, +0 neutral, -1 Disagree.
116 [00:50] <zkriesse> +1
117 [00:50] <collinp> +1
118 [00:50] <starcraftman> +1 (he better turn out to have a Starcraft account).
119 [00:50] <collinp> ...ok, bigger issue: How are we going to end the meeting?
120 [00:50] <paultag> It's OK collinp. We'll let nhandler know
121 [00:50] <paultag> OK, any more UBT members who care to vote?
122 [00:51] <paultag> please PM me with votes. I'll be cool about it
123 [00:51] <paultag> ( if you want them private )
124 [00:51] <collinp> What's our vote stats?
125 [00:51] <pedro3005> +1
126 [00:51] <paultag> +7
127 [00:51] <komputes> +1
128 [00:51] <zkriesse> +8 now
129 [00:51] <collinp> 9 +1's.
130 [00:51] <paultag> 8(+1), 0(+0), 0(-1)
131 [00:51] <collinp> [AGREED] phillw for membership
132 [00:51] <Silver_Fox_> +11
133 [00:51] <collinp> Ok.
134 [00:51] <paultag> Congrats phillw :D
135 [00:52] <Silver_Fox_> Win
136 [00:52] <collinp> How does this not work.
137 [00:52] <zkriesse> Welcome to the team (finally) phillw !
138 [00:52] <collinp> [AGREED]
139 [00:52] <komputes> phillw: Congrats Phil, welcome to the team :)
140 [00:52] <zkriesse> [endvote]
141 [00:52] <phillw> thanks guys, I can only ever promise any team that I will do my best
142 [00:52] <collinp> And yes, welcome to the team phillw.
143 [00:52] <zkriesse> #endvote
144 [00:52] <collinp> zkriesse: We weren't running a bot vote.
145 [00:52] <paultag> Next up: shredder12
146 [00:52] <zkriesse> collinp: Ah...
147 [00:52] <collinp> He's not here.
148 [00:52] <paultag> He's not here. We're going to skip him
149 [00:52] <paultag> can someone remind him that he missed a meeting?
150 [00:53] <zkriesse> I shall
151 [00:53] <collinp> I'll track him down.
152 [00:53] <paultag> km0r3 is after him
153 [00:53] <collinp> Or, zkriesse can,
154 [00:53] <paultag> also not here
155 [00:53] <collinp> Also isn't here.
156 [00:53] <paultag> and malev
157 [00:53] <collinp> Lather, rinse, repeat.
158 [00:53] <zkriesse> Lol
159 [00:53] <paultag> km0r3 is in the channel
160 [00:53] <paultag> same with malev
161 [00:53] * starcraftman wonders if all the absentees are playing starcraft...
162 [00:53] <komputes> collinp: infinite loop
163 [00:53] <paultag> I pinged them both. We're almost done with our stuff, so we'll wait for a few
164 [00:54] <collinp> How long has shredder been on the list?
165 [00:54] <zkriesse> starcraftman: I'm sure we all love it...just not as much as you
166 [00:54] <paultag> I'm unsure.
167 [00:54] <collinp> I think it's been a while.
168 [00:54] <paultag> duaneipho, how long has shredder been up for membership?
169 [00:54] <zkriesse> He's been on there a while
170 [00:54] <collinp> I'll track him down and see what's going on, if you wish.
171 [00:54] <paultag> collinp, that would be great, thanks
172 [00:54] <duaneipho> I put them on the agenda las month
173 [00:55] <zkriesse> you got it collinp ?
174 [00:55] <paultag> duaneipho, sorry, I meant duanedesign
175 [00:55] <collinp> Alright, I'll get his email address and send him one.
176 [00:55] <duaneipho> it's me
177 [00:55] <paultag> Oh ipho
178 [00:55] <paultag> dur :)
179 [00:55] <duaneipho> other co
180 [00:55] <paultag> Yup
181 [00:56] <collinp> So, according to the fridge calendar we have 4 minutes left in our allocated space.
182 [00:56] <paultag> Righto
183 [00:56] <paultag> We'll give them each their time
184 [00:56] <zkriesse> We can always move to #ubuntu-beginners
185 [00:56] * phillw will catch up with you all on #ubuntu-beginners-team. I've got to go and help my trainee bar man.
186 [00:56] <collinp> Does it matter if there's no other teams after us?
187 [00:57] <paultag> Not really, just bad practice to do
188 [00:57] <paultag> I've gone over before
189 [00:57] <collinp> hmm.
190 [00:57] <duaneipho> I wanted to see about getting someone to administrate the mentor program. I believe it was on the agenda.
191 [00:57] <paultag> We at least need to wait for nhandler to officially close it
192 [00:58] <collinp> Aye.
193 [00:58] <paultag> Was this mentioned before?
194 [00:58] <collinp> duanedesign - Improving Mentor Program
195 [00:58] <paultag> OK, cool.
196 [00:58] <paultag> duaneipho, you have the floor :)
197 [00:58] <starcraftman> bye phillw, as a recently inducted member it's imperative you get SC2, asap :).
198 [00:58] <komputes> starcraftman: hey
199 [00:58] <duaneipho> have someone make sure the seeking mentor list is taken care of each month
200 [00:59] <collinp> I could do that.
201 [00:59] <paultag> collinp, you already lead -dev
202 [00:59] <collinp> paultag: True that.
203 [00:59] <duaneipho> as well as have mentors provide monthly status reports
204 [00:59] <collinp> I'm sending an email to the ML regarding -dev, btw.
205 [00:59] <paultag> I'd like someone new, if you don't mind
206 [00:59] <paultag> collinp, great
207 [00:59] <collinp> Hmm.
208 [00:59] <collinp> Maybe phillw?
209 [01:00] <Silver_Fox_> I think I need another person to mentor again....
210 [01:00] * zkriesse raises hand
211 [01:00] <paultag> collinp, phillw is crunched for time and such
212 [01:00] <Silver_Fox_> ;)
213 [01:00] <collinp> Ah, yes.
214 [01:00] <paultag> Let's call for people on the ML
215 [01:00] <duaneipho> and have the mentor administrator be responsible fir making surre those are done each month
216 [01:00] <Silver_Fox_> +1 ML
217 [01:00] <paultag> just because we're not packed in here
218 [01:00] <collinp> Aye, +1 on the ML.
219 [01:00] <zkriesse> +1 ml
220 [01:00] <duaneipho> should only take 2 hrs or so a month
221 [01:01] <duaneipho> we do have a couple people on the seeking mentor list that need someone now
222 [01:01] <paultag> roger
223 [01:02] <paultag> Who would like to email calling for applications?
224 [01:02] <duaneipho> Rajbe. spelled wrong I am sure
225 [01:02] <zkriesse> I can if you want
226 [01:02] <paultag> zkriesse, OK. that would be great
227 [01:02] <duaneipho> I will, or mr zack
228 [01:02] <collinp> Or me.
229 [01:02] <paultag> zkriesse, Make a note applications go to the ubuntu beginners council ml
230 [01:02] <zkriesse> applications for a mentor correct?
231 [01:02] <paultag> zkriesse, no, mentor administrator, to ensure people get hooked up
232 [01:02] <zkriesse> Ah
233 [01:03] <zkriesse> Yeah I can write that up right now
234 [01:03] <paultag> thanks zkriesse
235 [01:03] <zkriesse> paultag: what's the council ml
236 [01:03] <zkriesse> sure
237 [01:03] <nhandler> zkriesse: ubuntu-beginners-council@lists.ubuntu.com
238 [01:03] <paultag> nhandler, arn't you eating?
239 [01:03] <nhandler> zkriesse: Be sure to poke a council member once sent if it gets stuck in moderation
240 [01:03] <nhandler> paultag: Just got back ;)
241 [01:03] <duaneipho> ID also like to hear what people think about the monthly updates by mentors
242 [01:03] <paultag> Roger doger
243 [01:03] <collinp> nhandler: Wow, fast.
244 [01:04] <zkriesse> nhandler: what'd you do? Inhale the food?
245 [01:04] <duaneipho> but were long on time so we can do it in -team
246 [01:04] <nhandler> :)
247 [01:04] <collinp> zkriesse: I do that on a regular basis. Not healthy.
248 [01:04] <zkriesse> collinp: same here
249 [01:04] <collinp> There's no teams after us wanting to beat us out, so I don't see time as being an issue.
250 [01:05] <duaneipho> I'll get with my 3 prospects and see If they can make next meeting for voting
251 [01:05] <collinp> I'm not sure as to how strictly enforced the time limit is on this channel, but it's doubtful that we're going to get kicked out.
252 [01:05] <zkriesse> I think pleia2 could answer that question best
253 [01:05] <nhandler> We are fine right now. Nobody is after us
254 [01:06] <duaneipho> shredder Is in India so he might have difficulty making a meeting
255 [01:06] <collinp> (yet)
256 [01:06] <zkriesse> Ok so duaneipho what do you want on the application for mentorship lead?
257 [01:07] <zkriesse> Or really, BT council members, what do you expect
258 [01:07] <duaneipho> I would like for them to ideally be responsible for the two things mentioned
259 [01:07] <zkriesse> Ok
260 [01:08] <duaneipho> it should only take 2-3 hours a month
261 [01:08] <zkriesse> But to apply for the "position" what do you want them to put on the email..wiki page of course, but what else? Experience in the team? Why they want/feel they should be in that position?
262 [01:08] <duaneipho> make sure prospects are hooked up and work with the council on setting up so
263 [01:09] <duaneipho> some kind of monthly update mentors submit about their prospects
264 [01:09] <zkriesse> Yes I get that...
265 [01:09] <duaneipho> Zack sounds good. ideallly it should be so
266 [01:10] <collinp> Just a question. For future reference, can meeting times be changed an hour or two back or forwards?
267 [01:10] <nhandler> zkriesse: Yep. LP link as well. And if people feel someone would be a good candidate, please do not hesitate to tell the council that
268 [01:10] <zkriesse> Ok I'll draft one up real quick
269 [01:10] <duaneipho> thanks Zack
270 [01:10] <nhandler> collinp: We probably are overdue for reconsidering meeting times/dates. I'll try to setup a doodle poll soon
271 [01:10] <zkriesse> nhandler: Roger..shall I draft a quick one and then send it to you for a quic review?
272 [01:10] <duaneipho> sorry if I mispell your name. no tab co
273 [01:10] <zkriesse> duaneipho: Not a problem
274 [01:10] <collinp> nhandler: If shredder is in India, it's unlikely that he will be able to make any of our normal meeting times unless he stays up late or wakes up early, not certain as to which.
275 [01:10] <duaneipho> mplete
276 [01:11] <zkriesse> and glad to do it duaneipho
277 [01:11] <nhandler> collinp: We have accepted members without them attending the meetings in the past
278 [01:11] <nhandler> zkriesse: If you want (not necessary)
279 [01:11] <duaneipho> you rock Zack
280 [01:11] <collinp> What process is that done with?
281 [01:11] <collinp> Because I would like for him to be aware of this in the email that I am composing to him,
282 [01:12] <zkriesse> duaneipho: Why thank you good sir
283 [01:12] <nhandler> collinp: It has been for people who were fairly well known among the team members so that they felt comfortable voting without the person being there
284 [01:12] <nhandler> We have also done a couple via ML iirc
285 [01:12] <duaneipho> I will ALS o talk with malev and km0r3 , also my prospects. see what their schedule is for attending next meeting
286 [01:12] <collinp> Hmm. Do you think that we could do such a vote at this time on him?
287 [01:13] <nhandler> What does everyone else think? Are you guys all familiar enough with him?
288 [01:13] <zkriesse> whith shredder12?
289 [01:13] <collinp> I feel that I am fairly familiar with him.
290 [01:13] <zkriesse> Yeah I know him ok
291 [01:13] <duaneipho> not a bad idea but I think we have lost some people
292 [01:14] <zkriesse> duaneipho: What is this "position" called. "Mentorship Admin" ?
293 [01:14] <zkriesse> or something to that affect?
294 [01:14] <starcraftman> I'm still here just quiet. Nothing really to add, unless I maybe volunteer a paddy for this mentorship thing. :)
295 [01:14] <collinp> paultag, pleia2, kermiac, komputes, Silver_Fox_.
296 [01:14] <starcraftman> zkriesse: Commander of the Paddy Brigade.
297 [01:14] <duaneipho> yeah sounds good unless anyone has a better name
298 [01:14] <paultag> sounds good
299 [01:14] <zkriesse> lol starcraftman
300 [01:14] <starcraftman> Mines pls!
301 [01:15] <zkriesse> starcraftman: Hahaha
302 [01:15] <nhandler> The title realistically isn't that important. The work that they do is what matters
303 [01:15] <duaneipho> Starcraft haha
304 [01:15] <zkriesse> Ok Mentorship Admin it is
305 [01:15] <collinp> ibuclaw.
306 [01:15] <starcraftman> nhandler: Oh come on!!!! It's all bout the title, why do ya think higher ya go in company longer it gets...
307 [01:15] <nigelb> o/ emeritus member
308 [01:15] <collinp> Ooh, nigelb!
309 [01:15] * komputes needs a pyMentor
310 [01:16] <duaneipho> Nigel OG in the house
311 [01:16] <Silver_Fox_> I will be back later. It is very early. Goodbye.
312 [01:16] <collinp> To the highlighted people, what do you think about holding a vote on shredder without him actually being here?
313 [01:16] <zkriesse> collinp: +1 on it from me
314 [01:16] <paultag> hey nigelb
315 [01:16] <kermiac> sorry, I haven't really had much to do with shredder
316 [01:16] <collinp> I have his wiki page.
317 [01:17] <nhandler> Do we have anyone else +1 on holding a vote right now?
318 [01:17] <collinp> +1 from me.
319 [01:17] <starcraftman> collinp: Don't think I know him enough, in such a case as this with tzs I'd say ml vote to get his participation + most folks knowing him.
320 [01:17] <nhandler> collinp: It was your idea ;)
321 [01:17] <collinp> nhandler: Heh.
322 [01:17] <maco> nhandler: you're voting on voting?
323 [01:18] <duaneipho> +1
324 [01:18] <starcraftman> maco: we are meta. :)
325 [01:18] <collinp> Two +1s.
326 [01:18] <nhandler> maco: I guess we are ;)
327 [01:18] <paultag> +0
328 [01:18] <collinp> So, I think it would be better if we went with starcraftman's suggestion of a ML vote.
329 [01:18] * zkriesse will be right back
330 [01:18] <zkriesse> +1 ML
331 [01:18] <nhandler> collinp: Agreed. Want to send an email?
332 [01:18] <collinp> There's not really enough people here to do a full team vote.
333 [01:19] <collinp> nhandler: Sure.
334 [01:19] <duaneipho> Collin sounds good
335 [01:19] <nhandler> [ACTION] collinp to email ML to vote on shredder
336 [01:19] <MootBot> ACTION received: collinp to email ML to vote on shredder
337 [01:19] <duaneipho> ok so we are done ?
338 [01:19] <nhandler> Anything else to discuss?
339 [01:19] <collinp> I think that's it.
340 [01:20] <starcraftman> Nothing from me, ran out of starcraft things :).
341 [01:21] <paultag> I'm good
342 [01:21] <nhandler> Then last order of business is to decide who is doing the minutes/team report
343 [01:21] * paultag has to run :(
344 [01:22] <nhandler> Any volunteers? I've ended up having to do the team report at the last minute the last few times, and I would prefer not to be the one to do it again
345 [01:22] <paultag> I nominate collinp
346 [01:22] <collinp> I'll get it done.
347 [01:22] <nhandler> You rock collinp
348 [01:22] <nhandler> Let me know if you have any problems/questions
349 [01:22] <collinp> Haven't been as active as I should be in the team, so this is my repentance :).
350 [01:22] <nhandler> [ACTION] collinp to do minutes/team report
351 [01:22] <MootBot> ACTION received: collinp to do minutes/team report
352 [01:23] <duaneipho> I can help on those things when I get home
353 [01:23] <nhandler> Great meeting everyone
354 [01:23] <nhandler> Thanks duaneipho
355 [01:23] <duaneipho> also update wiki with next meeting date
356 [01:23] <collinp> Aye, good meeting.
357 [01:23] <nhandler> +1 duaneipho
358 [01:23] <nhandler> #endmeeting
359 [01:23] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 19:23.
BeginnersTeam/Meetings/20100914 (last edited 2010-09-15 01:50:13 by h28)