== Meeting Agenda == ||Who||What|| || [[Rocket2DMn]] || Summer of Documentation, 2009 || || [[Rocket2DMn]] || Other doc team activities || == Log == {{{#!IRC [22:02] Ok guys, let's get started with the BT Wiki FG meeting [22:02] just FYI guys, the doc-team had a meeting last weekend [22:02] You can find the summary and log here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/DocTeam [22:02] Before we start with the wiki stuff - is anybody also interested in working on system docs? [22:03] not really, I'm pretty happy sticking to wiki atm. Maybe further down the road. [22:03] ok then, let me know in the future if you are [22:03] Moving on - Summer of Documentation [22:04] Rocket2DMn: will do. [22:04] Thank you all for your hard work this summer, a lot of great stuff has been done [22:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/Development [22:04] thank you too Rocket2DMn [22:04] Of course, you can work on any page on the wiki, even if it isn't listed there [22:05] also, you can add any pages to the Available section if you run across a page you think BT members might be able to handle [22:05] Yup, congrats to all, think we covered quite a bit of articles I'll get some more in before I go back in mid September. [22:05] i am still beavering away at the list :) [22:05] Yeah, we'll wind down the SoD in September [22:05] perhaps around Sept 22, that is the weekend at the end of the Summer season [22:06] Although, I fully expect some drop off around Labor day since people will be going back to school [22:06] why do we want to wind it down? [22:06] I recognize that this is all volunteer time, so don't stress yourselves [22:06] well Silver_Fox_ , we can't maintain the Summer of Documentation all year round :) [22:06] Silver_Fox_: summer holiday doesn't last forever, even if some wish it did ^^ [22:07] that's not to say you can't do work, it's just not part of this little project [22:07] okay, just clarifying :) [22:07] we do maintain the community docs all year round :) [22:07] the SoD is really just a way to get people from the BT involved in the wiki [22:07] hey, might even finish the glossary, haha [22:08] Does anybody have any questions? [22:09] i think that is a no [22:09] Ok then, please feel free to interrupt me at any time, but I'll move on [22:09] Not really, I think someone wanted to know what to do with orphans.... [22:09] A page that I've thrown at a couple of you guys is exactly what starcraftman is now mentioning [22:09] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OrphanedPages [22:09] those are pages that aren't linked from anywhere else on the community docs [22:09] a lot of the pages listed there are redirects, so you can ignore those [22:10] i have a question regarding that page [22:10] However, many of those pages need homes, and pages that arent linked from elsewhere arent very useful unless somebody grabs it from google [22:10] go for it Silver_Fox_ [22:10] is it generated by a bot or human? reason i ask is i can see where some of the links could be referenced [22:10] Silver_Fox_, it should be autogenerated [22:11] okay, thank you Rocket2DMn. [22:11] starcraftman asked me to give an example [22:11] I did? Don't think so ><. [22:11] no, maybe it was somebody else [22:12] sorry [22:12] anyway, let's take https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineServer [22:12] sure. [22:12] if you look at the page history, you will notice that it was only created a year ago, which meant somebody started an independent page [22:12] the main Wine page is here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine [22:13] So what do we do with the WineServer page? [22:13] why dont' you guys tell me what you would do :) [22:13] Link from WINE > WineServer. [22:14] The exact nature of how ya link it about though depends on the pages, the WINE page a bit of a mess as it is. [22:14] check content of wine page first to see if wine server covered [22:14] Yes, there could be content on the WineServer page that isn't covered on the Wine page [22:15] I'm not a Wine expert, but it should be noted that Wine and WineServer are two components of what is generally just viewed as Wine [22:15] perhaps there is content that should specifically remain on the WineServer page, or be moved there from the Wine page [22:16] if somebody were to take on that page, they would need to do some research or already know more about wine than i do :) [22:16] Wineserver page definitely needs to be updated if it's to be linked, last tested on 606 it says. [22:17] I'm more of a VM user tbh. [22:17] yeah starcraftman , after cleanup the links can be added [22:17] Though I have been trying desperately hard to get WINE to make my folding GPU windows client work, no luck though. [22:17] lol [22:18] well, there are other pages like this on the wiki that show us interesting things about what's happening with the wiki [22:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PageHits [22:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges [22:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex [22:18] hehe, I'm listed a lot on the recent changes one. :) [22:18] There are a couple more i believe, but i dont recall them off the top of my head [22:19] Any questions? [22:19] ok then [22:19] nope, simple enough concept, already linked about 20 or so orphans I thought were worth saving. [22:20] I'm not sure if you are already doing this, but it would be good if you all subscribed to pages that you did serious work on [22:20] then you can act as a maintainer of the page, and see what changes other people make later [22:20] good idea [22:21] Yup, I do that for the ones I rewrite like my backup and the ISO pages. [22:21] are only 3 people here? [22:21] I also want to note that if you work on pages that are important, popular, or probably/might have experts in the subject, you should seek those people out if appropriate to ask for advice about a page, or to let them know that you are working on it [22:21] Silver_Fox_: no [22:22] Silver_Fox_: Only 3 wiki fg members, yup, I think so. Rest are regular doc members. [22:22] remember that this is a community effort and we are working with others to keep documentation up to date [22:22] it is respectful and helpful to talk to others - you can always check to see who has contributed to pages by looking at the Page History [22:23] Rocket2DMn: Right, can always send a post to doc mail list to ask.. [22:23] if you have questions or concerns, you can always take them to the doc-team mailing list, or other lists if appropriate [22:23] exactly starcraftman [22:23] some pages also instruct you not to edit them, so it's good to read them thoroughly too [22:24] yes, those are ones that should be taken to mailing lists. there are only a handful of pages like that though, and are often ones linked from the main ubuntu site or are maintained by project owners [22:25] yeah, I'm thinking council ones mostly (irc council's irc rules, loco council's loco team list) [22:25] those are mostly on wiki.ubuntu.com, which we don't typically deal with [22:25] ah, ok [22:26] does anybody have any questions at all? I am basically out of material. I like to keep these meetings short [22:27] not really, I usually ask ya a question in the bt channel when it comes to me. [22:27] I don't have any questions [22:27] okie dokie then. Of course you can always ask questions later [22:28] Thanks for attending, meeting adjourned! }}} ---- CategoryBeginnersTeam