(12:41:32) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-11-11 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information 

(21:01:17) jean7491: hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? 
(21:01:56) warddr: check 
(21:02:31) Guest78913: check, for the first time, interested in the magic ubuntu world.. 
(21:02:41) nero_: check 
(21:05:02) jean7491: we wait a few minutes ... 
(21:05:10) siegie: ceck 
(21:07:16) JanC: o/ 
(21:08:20) hfsdo: check 
(21:11:13) jean7491: i propose we start on 21.15 h. 
(21:16:26) jean7491: 21.15 h. i propose we start with the topic 1. past and future events 
(21:16:56) jean7491: Dipro fair Ghent 8/11 - report is added in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2009-11-08 
(21:17:35) jean7491: summary : the fair was a successful event with a lot of good contacts. The Ghent event-box has been completed with a lot of material, the wiki about event-boxeswill be updated later. 
(21:17:56) jean7491: thanks to all volunteers ! 
(21:18:31) jean7491: comments ? 
(21:19:43) warddr: no 
(21:21:11) jean7491: JanC : comment ? 
(21:22:57) JanC: I haven't read the report yet, but no commetns for now 
(21:23:23) lodder_ [n=lodder@226.199-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] a rejoint le salon. 
(21:23:33) jean7491: ok, next item : future events, first Dipro fair Antwerp 29/11 
(21:24:26) jean7491: the team will be coordinated by bram (he already participated to dipro a'pen on 13/09) 
(21:24:44) warddr: I can't be there 
(21:25:03) warddr: last event was a succes 
(21:26:25) jean7491: ok warddr, additional volunteers are allways welcome ! feel free to join the team ! 
(21:26:34) lodder a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 
(21:26:56) JanC: how many volunteers do we have now? 
(21:29:09) jean7491: see the wiki, if all volunteers come: 8 but !!! in april, with 6-7 in the wiki, we were finally 3 
(21:29:17) t00r_ [n=t00r@unaffiliated/t00r] a rejoint le salon. 
(21:30:06) jean7491: idea is full manning 10-14 h. and low level later, bram will organize the team 
(21:30:59) jean7491: hardware and promo-material are in a'pen 
(21:31:28) jean7491: for dipro a'pen, genk and mechelen 
(21:31:32) JanC: well, let's hope drop-out is not as extreme this time 
(21:32:09) siegie: If there are volunteers short for antwerp? I can jump in. 
(21:32:28) jean7491: i am more optimistic as i already met some of the volunteers ! 
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(21:33:17) guydup [n=guydup@d51530769.static.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon. 
(21:33:37) jean7491: next fair is Dipro Genk 06/12 
(21:33:52) jean7491: hello guydup! 
(21:34:10) guydup: hello 
(21:35:11) JanC: LarsB is a volunteer for genk, but he shouldn't be there alone ☺ 
(21:35:27) jean7491: a call for volunteers will be posted in the mailing list 
(21:35:44) hfsdo: i can't help cause of exams 
(21:36:26) siegie: same here 
(21:36:54) jean7491: and i have 3 names of potential volunteers (tbc) - ok hfsdo, siegie, without you 
(21:37:16) jean7491: siegie, can you reactivate the call in fotum ubuntu-nl? 
(21:37:54) siegie: jean7491: yes, working on it :) 
(21:38:12) jean7491: :) 
(21:39:12) jean7491: next event is Dipro fair Mechelen 13/12 
(21:39:19) JanC: how was the volunteer fro m.nl in Oostmalle BTW? 
(21:39:47) jean7491: siegie, can you answer ? 
(21:40:18) JanC: Genk is near .nl too, might be possible to get somebody from .nl again :-) 
(21:40:44) nero_: I can help in Mechelen 
(21:41:24) hfsdo: i can't same reason as genk 
(21:41:25) siegie: Do you maen ertai? He was excellent, he is also a member of the ubuntu-nl werkgroep for release party's. 
(21:42:10) JanC: siegie: nice 
(21:42:19) jean7491: thanks siegie, thanks nero_, can you add your name in the wiki? 
(21:42:32) nero_: will do 
(21:42:48) JanC: nero_: do you know other people who can help maybe? 
(21:42:55) siegie: BTW the where much people for nl in oostmalle, (licence plates on the cars) 
(21:43:30) warddr2 [n=warddr@d54C3E448.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon. 
(21:43:35) JanC: siegie: well, there are a lot of Dutch vendors at dipro fairs of course ;) 
(21:43:54) nero_: I can ask at HCC next monday 
(21:44:37) JanC: siegie: but I can imagine some visitors too, as I heard the organiser of similar Dutch computer fairs are going to stop 
(21:46:43) JanC: nero_: cool 
(21:46:56) guydup a quitté le salon (quit: "Java user signed off") 
(21:47:12) JanC: nero_: how did the HCC install party go BTW? 
(21:48:32) warddr a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 
(21:48:42) warddr2 est désormais connu sous le nom de warddr 
(21:48:50) nero_: couldn't attend, had an unexpected visitor that evening :( 
(21:49:53) jean7491: other comment about dipro genk and mechelen ? 
(21:50:57) nero_: where should I add my name to the wiki? 
(21:51:13) nero_: need to logon first? 
(21:51:39) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Mechelen_2009-12-13 with logon launchpad 
(21:51:57) jean7491: or i can do it for you 
(21:52:19) nero_: is that different from the ubuntu-be logon? 
(21:53:08) siegie: (TBC = to be contacted? 
(21:53:19) jean7491: actually it is the same logon 
(21:53:28) jean7491: to be confirmed 
(21:54:58) JanC: TBC = to be confirmed 
(21:57:11) nero_: mailing list login/pwd is not recognised in launchpad. never used launchpad though 
(21:57:21) siegie: okey thanks 
(21:57:59) JanC: nero_: easy to make a LP accoutn ☺ 
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(22:01:19) jean7491: before the end 2009, there is another meeting in ghent : a proposed meeting Digipolis on Openbaar Computer Ruimtes (with possibility of ubuntu-presentation) 
(22:02:16) jean7491: I hope kenneth will be in charge of the meeting, but he could need some local help (from ghent people) 
(22:03:17) jean7491: if someone in ghent is volunteer, please contact me or kenneth 
(22:04:38) nero_: ok, I'm logged on. Need to put my real name or will the nickname do it? 
(22:04:41) jean7491: looking in the future, program dipro 2010 is not yet published ... 
(22:05:02) warddr: nero_, both is always best 
(22:05:20) JanC: nero_: and make sure you can be contacted 
(22:06:36) JanC: nero_: did you help with another event before? 
(22:08:27) nero_: I was present in Wezembeek-Oppem, met you there 
(22:09:16) warddr: I have to go, see you later! 
(22:09:46) warddr: when is the next irc-meeting, 
(22:09:49) warddr: *? 
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(22:11:07) jean7491: warddr : 18/11 
(22:12:05) jean7491: other question about dipro's 2009 ? 
(22:12:39) warddr: ok, don't think I'll be there, I usualy play badminton on Wednesday 
(22:12:51) jean7491: ok 
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(22:13:08) JanC: nero_: maybe ubuntu & HCC can have a joint boot in Mechelen? 
(22:13:13) JanC: booth 
(22:13:25) nero_: I'll ask 
(22:14:09) JanC: even if there are only 2 volunteers, there would always be some people to keep an eye on stuff that way 
(22:14:57) nero_: I surely can't do it alone 
(22:15:35) nero_: where can I put my contact info on the wiki? 
(22:16:19) nero_: or elsewhere? 
(22:17:42) jean7491: when opening a launchpad account, you can put there contact info you want! 
(22:19:18) jean7491: if you agree, i will add your irc nickname in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Mechelen_2009-12-13 , just say it 
(22:22:32) jean7491: going forwards with the 2010 program ... 
(22:23:19) jean7491: we could start thinking about the next release party 10.04 LTS : is a large release party a possibility, like in 2008 ? 
(22:24:54) siegie: jean7491: i think bartek did have much work with the party for 8.04, 
(22:26:48) jean7491: ok, i propose to start a reflexion on this possibility, and we will need more experience, certainly lessons from bart, we have a lot to learn 
(22:30:18) nero_: ok,jean7491 go ahead 
(22:31:31) jean7491: ok done :) 
(22:31:54) siegie: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/stappenplanreleaseparty > this document for example was writen for the dutch 8.04 party i think 
(22:32:18) markvandenborre [i=53652c17@gateway/web/freenode/x-uhgqpliikvlmxudj] a rejoint le salon. 
(22:33:05) jean7491: thanks siegie, about the rp 10.04, we could start a reflexion through the mailing list or through exchange of mails between interested people 
(22:34:24) siegie: I think there must be more documents on the dutch wiki but i can't find them at the moment. 
(22:34:42) nero_: fyi, I nearly go every week to Oudenburg near Oostende, if there is material to move... 
(22:35:12) JanC: nero_: wow, that would be useful sometimes 
(22:35:30) nero_: just yell if needed 
(22:36:27) jean7491: thanks nero, but where are you from (area?) 
(22:37:16) nero_: I live near Mechelen, Hever 
(22:37:39) jean7491: ok 
(22:39:57) siegie: Does somebody know anything about a release party in antwerpen on 1 november. http://www.releaseparty.eu/show.php5?release-party=Antwerpen 
(22:40:44) siegie: I can't find more info on it... 
(22:43:31) siegie: contact person was bruno de bondt http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/ReleasepartyWiki/Inschrijven?action=diff&rev2=255&rev1=254 
(22:44:19) markvandenborre: siegie: that's the indymedia people 
(22:44:30) markvandenborre: organising an install party with every release 
(22:46:35) jean7491: has someone report or feedback about this rp in a'pen ? 
(22:47:21) siegie: http://www.indymedia.be/fr/node/35008 this is the invitation but can't find any feedback. 
(22:49:30) JanC: we can mail them (I didn't get there this time) 
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(22:51:20) jean7491: to conclude the the past and future events, about the rp 10.04, i propose to start a reflexion between interested people : who is interested by the topic can contact me for exchange of ideas (not more!) 
(22:53:06) jean7491: other comments about past and future events ? 
(22:55:05) JanC: not now 
(22:55:35) jean7491: topic 2. promotion material : are there suggestions about new promotion material and update of the existing ? 
(23:01:44) jean7491: no ideas, no comments about promotion material ? 
(23:02:04) nero_: not for now 
(23:03:35) jean7491: about event boxes, 2 improved boxes are now located in ghent and antwerp, we can look for other boxes if there is a need elsewhere, not limited to dipro fairs 
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(23:05:58) jean7491: about next topic 3. things living in the mailing list, the problem of support points map seems not interesting, although we receive remarks on each dipro fair 
(23:06:35) jean7491: the question remains open, i have no solution 
(23:07:35) jean7491: no comment ? ! Other questions not in the agenda? 
(23:08:18) siegie: it's not only the ubuntu-be support points map but also the map from ubuntu-nl. 
(23:08:50) siegie: This one isn't checkt for more than a year now. 
(23:09:02) nero_: what are the requirements to be a support point? 
(23:09:44) siegie: nero_: first one is to answer, also if you don't know a sollution. 
(23:10:07) nero_: by mail ore otherwise? 
(23:11:22) siegie: nero_: i answer by mail :) I think it's required to enter on if you ask a support point. 
(23:13:46) nero_: that shouldn't be a problem 
(23:14:21) nero_: although I don't consider myself as an expert 
(23:14:21) siegie: most people complain that they don't hear anything from the support point 
(23:15:42) jean7491: core requirements: be ready to help with cd, demonstration or help for installation, when you receive a request from new "user". a request needs an answer, at least, by mail. sometime the request is more complicated but allways needs a reaction. but it is not allways the case. we don't have statistics on this topic. 
(23:20:40) nero_: ok, I can do that 
(23:21:31) siegie: For my case, i think i had 10 questions from a support, 5 askt for a cd, 1 a installation, 2 simple support questions, and 2, with i linked to the because, i didn't know the sollution. This is it for 3 year. 
(23:22:50) jean7491: in 1 year in ostend i had ± 15 requests 
(23:24:39) jean7491: if no other question, next meeting ? proposed on 18/11/2009 at 21 h. 
(23:25:01) nero_: ok 
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(23:28:07) nero_ [n=nero_@62.235.129.139] a rejoint le salon. 
(23:28:10) siegie: I can't be on the next meeting, (studentenraad) 
(23:29:43) JanC: jean7491: ok 
(23:29:58) jean7491: thanks to all for your participation, have a good night :) 
(23:30:57) nero_ a quitté le salon 
(23:40:15) siegie: good night :) 
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