Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? Me * warddr (~warddr@d54C3F409.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be * warddr est parti (Changing host) * warddr (~warddr@Wikipedia/Warddr) a rejoint #ubuntu-be hoi hell hello Hi hi massimo21 , JanC , warddr * sarawara (~sarah@3.29-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be jean7491: do you know if they can use extra people for the Charleroi dipro fair? * CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) a rejoint #ubuntu-be hm, in belgium people speak english, :D sarawara: easier than mixing Dutch, French & German ;) i guess so jean7491: sarawara might want to help in Charleroi ok, i'll send sarawa email address adrien (coordinator) jean7491: also, I should be able to come to Ostend Saturday can we start the meeting? * padv (~pascal@ip-83-134-155-155.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be hoping other people will join, we start topic #1. past and future events - September 2010 - update first item, Dipro fair 12/09 antwerp-report afaik from participants: it was a long busy day till +/- 16,00 hr. visitors were very interested in our booth. 5 volunteers were sometimes not enough to answer/exchange all visitors. It was a successful event ! cool It was bussy till 14;00, after that not really plus, maybe we need more volunteers in Antwerp ;) when possible ! other comment ? second item, Software Freedom Day (18/9) http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/FrontPage an event is planned in ostend in cooperation with zandletters.be, unfortunately the core-team reduces from 3 to 2 volunteers, but not enough for 3 simultaneous workshops! frank will help in the afternoon, additional volunteers are needed, at least from 10.15 till 12.00 ! … https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/SoftwareFreedomDay2010 Ostend is to far away for me idd jean7491: what would have to be done? like I said before, I can come * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be 4X 1 hour session: i start with 10 min general presentation, after that 3 workgroups office, internet (firefox+avast and multimedia (vlc+picasa): ... mainly, it is about leading demos and answering questions about foss and other gratis softs, likely low level, ... I don't know anything about picasa and avast ;) and I didn't prepare anything of course avast is a free windows anti-virus program warddr: that much I know ☺ :D never used though * mongolito404 est parti (Remote host closed the connection) jean7491: was anything prepared beforehand? 3 demos- presentations are ready, if you can explain the benefit using firefox and vlc, it's good ! as i'll run the office (openoffice) workshop linked with my presentation/hardware. ... if you can provide the presentations beforehand so that I can prepare a bit ☺ we have laptops with win xp and 2 pc's with ubuntu (+win xp virtual) hmpf, thunder & hail here... ok, i send you a mail with presentations 1 general and 3 for workshops Hello Jean7491-JanC-Massimo21-Warddr-........, can you send me the presentations to? I don't know what you're talking about, but if you want to ping us all you should use a space, not a dash i just want to say hello because i was a little bit late for the meeting Oh, ok. Hello Clamam JanC : i start installation at 09.30, but the underground parking opens at 10.00 h. jean7491: free parking? ☺ yes, but closed from 12 to 13, good if you can come at 10 hr. (or trein+kusttram? it means you can not leave the parking between 12 and 13 hr. * Clamam est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be for informztion, this is the only Software Freedom Day activity announced in Belgium. I'll look up where it is and see how I come i contact you later about it third item, Nielse computer dag (26/9) in cooperation with local computerclub monitor … team with nero as coordinator and 3 volunteers, additional volunteers are welcome ! volunteers ? please add your name in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Niel_2010-09-26 I'll wait some time, if in about a week there still are only 3 volunteers I'll go there as well but I see 5 names in the wiki? i mean nero +3 = 4 - it looks good for this event! the 5th is busy with a fon booth next to ubuntu-be booth but running ubuntu I see ok I should read better before I comment next time no problem, dipro charleroi and hasselt are on track other question about events ? for your agenda: sfd2011 is on saturday 17th september 2011 * nero_ (~nero@ip-62-235-177-151.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be Hi, I just have a few minutes to follow hallo nero_ i saw team for niel is ok with 4 volunteers I think we can manage that, yes Something new? do you have laptops from a'pen ? Not shure if we need then otherwise I'll collect them from Bram ok, you see and ask what you need idem for cd's Is JanC online? yes nero_: ? We made a stock in Antwerp, there are some cd's to start with nero_: if you need CDs, I have many now Are you at home saturday to get some CD's? nero_: I will be in Ostend helping jean7491 but in the evening I will be home What's the address? I'll pass by to get the cd's nero_: in the evening? Until what time is that event? sfd at the municipal library kris lambert in ostend ends at 15 hr it will be later around 18hrs then I will be home nero_ : other question ? Do I take the cd's for the Electic thing? I work in Brussels/Etterbeek so can drop them there nero_: see PM nero_: the CDs for Brussels are in Ghent and will be in Brussels tomorrow BTW: I got 3 boxes of Ubuntu CDs from Canonical + a 2/3 box of Kubuntu + Server so if anybody needs CDs... ;) and the new release is only 1 month away it's a good introduction to next topic # 2. Promotion but the new one is not an LTS first item Adding commercial links to the website we already discussed the topic, see draft in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Commercial_links-draft … I'll be back in 15' JanC : something new about contact address ? * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg) for other participants : before to launch the project and contacting companies, we are still waiting for a central point of contact for this matter (likely contact@ubuntu-be.org), … once done, we can start with announcement in the mailing list I'm looking into it as we speak ;) JanC , if you nee time now, we can go ahead with another item/topic and come back later on this issue ? * padv est parti (Remote host closed the connection) I'm already switching between the meeting, the server & other people asking my attention ;) i think we can go on then yes, please go on ok, we jump to topic# 4. Support points map status : ... mongolito should start saturday with import of data's about support points, let's hope the problem will find a solution, no further info we continue with promotion - second item, t-shirts for Ubuntu-be ? we were waiting for other design proposals,… see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts There are some more proposals here: http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/artwork/wedstrijd-ontwerp-de-beste-ubuntu-t-shirt/ I think we should move on to a vote, I don't expect more proposals, we've asked for proposals using different channels We also have to decide how much to order, and a pre-order, how we are going to organize that And we need to find a way to vote if anyone agrees on making our own t-shirts and spending (temporary) a big part of the team money anyone any suggestions? but the new proposals does not respect the basic - logo ubuntu - not only .be, for international use ... example 4th project: ubuntu test is below the cof and not above I like the first 2 i like v7_white but use for fosdem ? is it not too related to ubun-be ? be open and be free no, it isn't really and the free zone around the ubuntu logo must be respected but you can add the proposals to the wikisee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts maybe explain the trademark rules on the forum too... I don't know a lot about that http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ * sarawara est parti (Quit: Leaving) That are a lot of rules change for the 2 first nl proposals: use official ubuntu+cof logo, and move the addition .be open free upwards I've seen much worse than that for company trademarks ;) for some companies it's actually a 300 page book :P nr 3 and 4 are not correct: ubuntu must be below cof I'll take care of that I'll send a message to heir4c Any suggestions on how to organize a pre-sale? i propose you add the 2 first nl projects to the wiki, and to postpone the selection to next week heir4c is actually from region Ghent IIRC warddr: ask on the mailing list & forum & such? I'll send another mail to the mailinglist you might want to think about how people will have to pay & such and maybe one to the fr forum? and who will keep track of all that... once the design adopted, we can launch a presale action, but not before ! ok, but we have to think about how to organize a presale i suppose 1 wiki page and a contact-address for who does not have write-access to the wiki, ... and the payments? qustion pre-paid or not ? i suggest no prepaid (easier), with the risk of a few changes in presales how can we do a presale if we don't even have a voted model ? that's impossible, but we can already discuss how to organize it jean7491, and how will you give to t-shirts to the buyers? at fairs you coud eventually show picture of t-shirt i wrote: 1st a model, then after that presale! payment: if general agreement an possible for our finances, ubuntu-be pay the bill and after collecting money, send it back to ubuntu-be porto cost can be included in presale, so the pre-sale would be more like: "I promise I will buy at least X t-shirts of size A and Y t-shirts of size B" but need someone in charge of the gestion of the stock t-shirts ... who can follow the sale of t-shirts and transfert of money to ubuntu-be actually, better use the ubuntu-be account directly I can stock the t-shirts here, and if we've got the money I can bring them to the post-office but I live far from big city's and highways, that's a downside * Guest69984 est parti (Quit: Ex-Chat) if you receive the money on your personal account, the tax office might want to tax you for it! where do you live? Nijlen, close to Lier why don't we go with paypal it's very easy because paypal is evil ;) and steals people's money and paypal costs a lot of money why, how?????? remember last meeting guydup proposed his help ... or 2 weeks ago? I wasn't around last meeting what did he propose? i think you were there, it was about btw oh, indeed Clamam: http://doctormo.ubuntu-ma.us/2010/02/25/pocketing-police/ is one example (I know others who got similar problems personally too but for less money) take direct contact with him for explanation, ... I'll contact him can someone pm me his e-mail adress? I'll write him an e-mail i propose to postpone preselection till next week and back with more ... and go ahead with the other topics ok JanC ? about contact issue ? have to go bye I have to go in a couple of minutes, for next meeting, wednesday and friday isn't possible for me) bye massimo21 * massimo21 (~massimo21@212.87.116.98) a quitté #ubuntu-be if contact@ubuntu-be.org I too complicate, i propose to start using the already existing address “contact.ubuntu.be@gmail.com” (to be shared within “contact-group), … JanC ? bye bye warddr it's not too complicated; I just need a bit of time to make sure everything is configured correctly before the server goes live * warddr est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg) JanC : then we continue to wait ?! next item ubuntu and facebook ? as i already wrote: not everybody is happy with, but it is a fact and we should take it in account: we need a team of interested people to look forward how to? And to ensure a “animated” page about our activities. No reaction in the mailing list to the report ! Clamam : reaction ? i have contacted the founder of the page, but no response we can post events on it, but we have to have someone to manage the page but before to use it, we should agree with the owner of the page about its administration ?! that's right are there volunteers to (re)start / participate to managing the existing page ? yes, i am Clamam : can you lead a team managing the page ? you will not remain alone in the team! I can do that. but you should be the contact point for the team facebook and you ... , not but ! no problem ok, think about how the team should work and what he should do, we can discuss later about it, before launching the team... question remain open about the founder of the group ... we have to contact him, so we can ask if he wants to participate or give the page over to us i suppose you tried his email address gmail ? does he have a facebook email address ? i send him a message with facebook, but no reaction. i wil try his gmail address do you have it ? i will look for it on his page if you have it please send it to me i sent it, next item ? item 4. ubuntu and education as I already wrote : what can we propose to schools ? example “ICTpraktijkdag” in november: we need an “education-team” with teachers to help the promotion (content and how to?) only 1 reaction in the m-l, but no initiative yet! * CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) a quitté #ubuntu-be Any suggestion ? for ict-dag hasselt the latest day to subscribe was yesterday, koen could not come. i saw it no positive answer for paying that amount of money for a booth and a 30min presentaion but massimo21 is in contatct with a teacher that wants to participate he is going to invite him to the next fair in Hasselt how often are ICTpraktijkdag organised? we already spoke about it in july, and about the need someone leading the project, it is why i added the topic ubuntu and education ... sofar i know about 3 3/year so we can shoot for the next one, if we find people... perhaps, if someone takes the lead of the project ? also it's not cheap like dipro other comment about ubuntu and education ? no topic # 3. Update Wiki - are there suggestions ? if not next topic one suggestion for Clamam: to start a facebook team page (draft), like the page "events-team" ok, i will take a look next topic next Topic : Things living in the mailing list and others questions ? For information: no newcomer in the belgian local community team last week Other question ? before the next irc meeting date no if none, last topic, next irc meeting ? proposed on thursday 23/09 at 21 h. ? good for me +1 Clamam: about wiki facebook, i'll add a reference with link in the page BelgianTeam/Responsibility ok, thanks end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, and have a good night ! good night * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be