btw speaking from ostende, hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? (you have first to convert hostname to ip) Me Hoi me * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.148.215) a rejoint #ubuntu-be i am here hello jimbauwens Clamam mongolito404 massimo21 JanC , steabert : are you here for the meeting ? i am yes yes yes I'm here for the free drinks... :D jimbauwens: that site links to a site that says I'm in Kortemark (which is closer, but still 40km away or so) lol o/ welcome steabert ! JanC: and that is a good thing, because nobody can trace you :) thnx, my first irc chat, still figuring things out... welcome.. @jimbauwens: mine shows only 5.6km away :p ok, steabert , you saw the agenda in the wiki ? hello woutervddn still I think it's keeps being to hard to really trace someone.. hi jean7491 woutervddn, exept with me, where the location is only a street away :( we start with topic #1. future events - december – januari jean7491: yes item #1 dipro computer fair mechelen, 12/12/2010, ... coordinator: nero + 3 volunteers, last preparation in going on and i assume no problem ! item #2 dipro computer fair leuven 16/01/2011, the team consists of 5 volunteers, included 2 experienced Ubunteros logistic preparation will start next week the support for leuven will come from mechelen and if necessary from antwerp or elsewhere item #3 dipro computer fair hasselt 23/01/2011: no problem, the team is already busy with everything is ready yep 4 volunteers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2011-01-23 http://doodle.com/5d42z7bgdafpg25r?newDesign=true and item #4 dipro computer fair ghent 30/01/2011: to be started in januari steabert : i'm not tracing you! where are you from ? woutervddn: if you have a name, and a ip location, with wittegids.be you can find the person woutervddn, just look for the best match let's keep it to the meeting now jimbauwens ok, sorry any comment about the future events ? nowp next year in 2011 there is a lanparty in genk and they have asked us to be there tommorow i have a meeting for the details sounds like a nice idea.. maybe in cooperation with the computerclub the bitmappers the bitmappers will have a releasemeeting @ the same place ande date clamam you can post more information after your meeting but everything is still under construction tommorow i will now more i is planned for the first week of mei how sturdy does a laptop have to be for a computerfair? steabert: mine has a broken hinge, and thus isn't very sturdy... ;) (and it didn't break from the fairs) jean7491: i'm from leuven ok, thanks steabert: we don't have insurance, but in general no hardware gets destroyed during the fairs at least if you don't drop it +1 for massimo21 are there any demands for the laptops on the fair? well, i wondered if the laptops are mostly used for demonstrating or do you let people use them? steabert: both JanC: ok, thanks if you don't feel like people workign with your laptop, it can be used for running a slideshow or playing Big Bucks Bunny i have an extra login user in my netbook for the fairs massimo21: that's recommended indeed massimo21: yes, that was where I was getting at :) when possible, we try to use material from event boxes, antwerp has 3 old laptops, ghent at least 1 + old pc's, but each time, it is a problem of coordination to move material Ghent has 2 thinkpads ok Makes me want to donate :) (hardware) janc, my laptop runs ubuntu-studio with docky instead of the bottom bar.. is it better to restore that to default or leave it like that? On a other account it should be to default woutervddn: if you make a new user, it's easy to login to the default session true.. didn't thought about that :p to close the events topic, during the digital week 2011, ubuntu will be presented in ostend (03/03/2011) I recommend showing the default desktop by default are there any applications that should definitely be installed on laptops we let people use? steabert: the default applications, but I always have other applications installed too Gimp? make sure they work well though ;) I have several educative games, The GIMP, MyPaint, some developer tools, etc. installed xchat, so that they can chat on ubuntu-be :p Maybe tuxpaint, for the young ones JanC: i can always bring a laptop with debian stable installed :p yeah, that's part o educative IMO ;) part of steabert: we're promoting Ubuntu ;) which doesn't mean we are against Debian, Fedora, OpenSuse of course we promote towards new users mostly so no gentoo? * massimo21 est parti (Quit: massimo21) * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.148.215) a rejoint #ubuntu-be can we continue with the next topic ? woutervddn: I don't care what people already use, those were examples :P yes, next topic (unless there are questions) jean7491: yes steabert : ok ! next topic # 2. Promotion item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : ... the t-shirt team started working ... =) from email in the m-l, additional proposals can be send until 23:59 at 19/12/2010 included additional proposals for T-shirt printing services and prices in the following week the t-shirts team will set up a poll (closing date?). The poll's goal is to select the design and the T-shirts brand and printing service printing services are not as easy to find as I thought.. search for "screen printing" ("zeefdruk") in addition to on-line printing services, I mean Didn't we found an eco & fairtrade priting service a while ago ? yeah, warddr has that info yes.. I did.. :) but finding them with fairtrade shirts is harder.. they never tell that on there site so you really have to mail for it.. some do say it and yes, we allready found 2 or 3 services.. btw: poll closing date is 26th of december where is the poll?? it will be put online on the 19th.. that way people can submit more designs.. let us know (altough the deadlines might change a little..) yes we will.. if everything goes well, the t-shirts will then be ready during January ! other comment ? nope no comments not that I can think of atm.. where will the polls be ? doodle ? yes.. that was easier as the launchpad (so was told us).. + it is avaible for everyone without login that is what I call open :) Login (launchpad) is a good thing, LP is the tools used to get engaged in the ommunity, as I always said, if your are not ready to get a LP account and use it, you are not really willing to contribute monolito404, but what about normal users who don't have an account? shouldn't they be able to choose the design with us? (it is them who are going to buy the shirt..) choose the design == get engaged in the community launchpad account != eye for fashion :) it would be useful to contact a printing company before the design is chosen maybe not wait until January, I mean yes, I allready had contact with 2 or 3 services.. in case they have a busy printing schedule... it might be useful to ask if they are busy in January true.. JanC: would you suggest speeding it up so they are ready before the first dipro in january? woutervddn: I'm mainly concerned about FOSDEM my opinion is that if you want to have a say you have to engage yourself in the community. An open poll is too easy for "freeloaders" that want to be heard without doing any effort to get into the community but if they are earlier, that's good of course mongolito404, I understand, it isn't that hard to join launchpad, and If you want to help, you need one anyway, for other stuff And usually, such freeloaders doesn't provide value but mostly noise BTW: is there a dipro fair during FOSDEM? jimbauwens: exactly, delaying LP account usage is delaying engagement in the community (as a whole, not just Ubuntu-be) apparently Kortrijk, just like last year true mongolito404, i didn't thought about it like that.. indeed both are on the 6th.. so that means we need two teams.. :s it was the same last year... I want to go to FOSDEM next year, so maybe I could help (maybe) I'm afk for a few minutes, is there anything that you want to know about the thsirts before I leave? I guess we can discuss further on the ML etc. next item? mongolito404 , afaik to organize a poll on launchpad (be loco team), you need administrator privilege and it is restricted to members, for thiis reason it easier for wouter to use doodle LP polls will probably disappear though! I'd say we trow that question up in the ML and see what everyone else thinks? there are also poll scripts for Drupal so that's an option too -_-' or we could hold a poll to see how we want to set up the poll.. Yep, we can activarte the poll module for Drupal (but might mean more work for mongolito404 or somebody else) Yeah, a poll on polls which reminds me I need to reboot the server tonight ;) lol.. waiting for the result of the poll ...next ... item #2. ubuntu and education : no information item #3: we need a new french press contact, as the current has resigned for personal reason, but no information yet JanC, kernel update :p s http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/node/add/poll Accès refusé Vous n'êtes pas autorisé(e) à accéder à cette page. you need to be loged in i'm login no problem here... * quadagh (~Luc@109.130.45.58) a rejoint #ubuntu-be but maybe I have more rights in Drupal now it is ok anyway, if 1 person can make the poll... I granted poll creation permission to any ubuntu-be (LP) members okay, that should solve that problem ;) woutervddn , have a look at and come later back on this isue ... topic # 3. Update Wiki : suggestion or comment wait about promotion: the banner Canonical sponsors is confirmed ok how many? 1? yes, 1 it might be a bit complicated to get it used all over the country... :-/ :-( maybe Nero or somebody else more near the center of the country can keep it at home size? I don't know teh exact size will see when it arrives ;) we have made 1 ourselve 1,2mx0,35m used plotter @ my work clamam: banner in paper or canvas? paper and then plastified also, we could see how much a canvas banner costs plastified paper, glued on hardboard ah, that sounds rather sturdy too a canvas banner cost abaout 100€ we do have some money, remember maybe will make some more with the t-shirts we have done some research before making our banner we don't have to sit on that money forever ;) If you can paint good, you can paint on a big sheet, and it wont cost alot :-) JanC: ok, good 2 know of course if your employer sponsors a plastified paper banner, that's always welcome... ;-) another possibility is a roll-up (Rollup 85 x 200, >50 euro) what is a rollup? rollup? http://www.rollup-express.com/ vertical banner then you don't need a support but of course 1 banner +/- 50 euro + tax + port it's very interesting it looks very professional if we set it up an a table, tha it is very visible roll-up issue needs more research ... i propose we continue with the next topic ... so if we buy 4 of these, it's maybe 200-250 € ? likely we can search for it later (out of the meeting) yes about the wiki, next week, the dipro fairs 2010 will be moved to the “past events” history but last booth-reports are not yet in (except genk) antwerp, ghent ... other comment for the wiki ? if no other comment, next ... topic# 4. Support points map status mongolito404 ? comment ? As usual, I4m still working on it ok, last week, i mentioned that there is no information about registration for new points of support on the website I've to made up my mind on which plugin to use to store coordinates and geocode address Yes, I've seen the bug on LP mongolito404: also keep an eye on the next Drupal version (they will include some currently optional modules into the default distribution) Drupal 7 should be out 'soon' (coming weeks) and CCK is in core, but not views and certainly nothing for maps ah, okay no procedure : the result is that a volunteer to become support point does not know how to do a bug report has been written, but it takes time and i'm not sure about the best solution we need reactions : what is the best solution to pass information about the procedure ? also ask on the ML? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/682183 I like te suggestion to update the "Participate" page it should certainly be on the site, not the wiki other comment on this issue ? So we need someone to update the participates pages in each language I guess I'll do it if nobody else volounteer how do you mean? like filter those out who aren't involved? Any member of the ubuntu-be-webeditor on Launchpad can edit pages on the site (using a Wysiwyg editor) woutervddn: there is no clear explanation about how to get on the "map" (list) currently on the support point page, it doesn't really say in detail what is expected of a support-point-person... +1 for steabert It hasn't never been well documented, but I think there is something on the wiki or is that page meant only for people looking for support? i agree it is more about looking for support a little link to an info page about becoming a support point can't be a problem.. We would add a block with the join information, just like we do on http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/ubuntu_planet (btw, the planet is kind of broken) btw, the drupal css is messed again -_-' just noticed.. for those who look for information about the work of a support point, it should be through participate page I say it, I need to update the theme to a "dev" version * pep` (~pep@91.180.40.156) a rejoint #ubuntu-be o/ mongolito404 : i will continue the review of the participate page in 3 languages, with the help of pep for the 4th jean7491: if I follow the link "register as a support point", i enter the same page as from the support point page, which is to look for a support point at that point (following the link "register as support point"), one would like to read more about becoming a support point steabert: Yep, the participate page has not been updated since we moved the map into the main site And the old-map has a small text about joining it I gtg, have to go to sleep, need my rest :) indeed, this is the subject of the bug (see above) ah, ok then bye ubuntuers :) bye slaapwel ☺ jimbauwens: goodbye I think we need an additional page a joining the the map to link from the Participate page and the Support Points page * quadagh est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) dankje wel, thanks you * jimbauwens est parti (Quit: Leaving) mongolito404: that would be great too * quadagh (~Luc@109.130.55.110) a rejoint #ubuntu-be actually, better, as we can point to it fro meverywhere then be it from IRC, from a mail, etc. \o (sry late) But we need to write the text have to leave good night * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.148.215) a quitté #ubuntu-be massimo21: gn i started with the bug report as a transitional solution, waiting for the development of the issue of the support points map ... additional page about joining as support point is a lot more work ! Even if the text is added in the dev. of the support points map, it needs to be written additional page is actually not a lot of work, creating a page is easy (as creating event) i spoke about the content it doesn't have be a) long b) complete in the first version *we* can add the page with basic content and ask/wait for feedback to enhance it it could include a) details of responsibilities b) series of testimonies from existing support points I'll try to find the time to create the page in the coming days with the content in the LP bug and to link to it (at least from the Participate page), but I'll *not* write more content. As usual, we don't need ideas on what to do (we have many), we need somebody to realize some of them. Is there something I could do? (after my exams that is..) I'm not sure which part is the most urgent.. or which I have 'rights' to change.. woutervddn: yeah, register on the ubuntu-be-webeditor team on LP and start editing content on the website: ttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-webeditor joined :) approved can we plan another meeting on this topic "update of the website" but limited to participate and support points ? Don't break the site, ask me if you need help/mentoring :p lol I will.. I think it would be a good idea to plan a special meeting to talk the whole site true.. special meeting ? when ? mongolito404: is there a to-do list of stuff that needs work? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium some issue are old and maybe irrevelant now The site content bug is the one we just talked about to shorten the present meeting, can we continue on this issue at the next irc meeting ? mongolito404: I'll browse through it and see what's within my capabilities :) jean7491: yes about the next irc meeting ? i propose meeting next week, on thursday 16/11/2010 at 21 h. as last meeting in 2010 ... selckin, woutervddn (and others), if you see anything to need work on the site and don't know if/how you should do it you can also report a bug on LP ok oups, not selckin but steabert if ok for next meeting, next topic # 5. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ? if ok for next meeting, next topic # 5. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ? there was this issue I needed to look at (when I was afk) are there issues to discuss now ? or can we conclude this meeting ? for me we can conclude the meeting, i will keep you posted about the event in genk next year ok * woutervddn est parti (Quit: Leaving) other comment ? is there a log of these meetings? there is :) i mean, where can we find that later? :) sorry, you should be able to find it on the wiki steabert: on my hard disk ;-) or on your hard disk, good point :) but normally sombedy puts it on-line https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings reports and logs thanks I'll check my harddrive too :) * woutervddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be steabert: if you use xchat, you can enable loging, and I think Empathy keeps logs too JanC: hhm, seems I'm using something called irssi i like cli :) irssi can keeps logs too ;) -s if no other question, ... end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, and have a good night !