jan 13 21:00:41 hi to all, we start with a check : who is here for the meeting ? jan 13 21:00:50 me jan 13 21:00:53 Hello, i am jan 13 21:01:13 i'm here.. jan 13 21:01:14 me to jan 13 21:01:41 massimo21: I don't think I know you? jan 13 21:01:46 I am jan 13 21:02:10 i live in Genk jan 13 21:02:59 hi FrankVanDamme clamam massimo21 woutervddn mimor Gh0sty ... jan 13 21:03:36 y jan 13 21:03:36 o/ jan 13 21:03:44 lo jan 13 21:04:15 hi JanC , El-Kodar : are you here for the meeting ? jan 13 21:04:32 I was wondering where JanC was.. refreshing my inbox cleared that out :p ;-) jan 13 21:05:17 working on a mail about FOSDEM too ;) jan 13 21:05:45 spammer ;-) jan 13 21:05:51 you'll be at the fosdem booth as usual? jan 13 21:06:28 anyone else for the meeting ? jan 13 21:06:33 Hiµ jan 13 21:06:52 hi mongolito404 jan 13 21:07:14 * jimbauwens (51538a12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.83.138.18) a rejoint #ubuntu-be jan 13 21:07:54 Hello! jan 13 21:08:04 hi jan 13 21:08:25 Sorry for not being in the last meeting, I was a bit busy jan 13 21:08:31 meetings* jan 13 21:08:49 Exams, Newyear, etc jan 13 21:08:56 hi jimbauwens , welcome back ! jan 13 21:09:04 Thanks you =) jan 13 21:09:24 i propose we start with topic #1. future events - januari - … 2011 jan 13 21:09:46 item #1 dipro computer fair leuven 16/01/2011, . . . jan 13 21:09:52 afaik team and preparation are ok, frank is coordinating jan 13 21:10:01 the vitals are present jan 13 21:10:07 FrankVanDamme : comment ? jan 13 21:10:37 which is 3 people including myself @ brabanthalle at 9am, plus the materials jan 13 21:10:53 ok jan 13 21:10:57 I'll try to get there at 9 but I'm not sure I'll make it.. jan 13 21:11:24 I'll be there before 10h though.. jan 13 21:11:38 I'll have to move to another location / building jan 13 21:11:54 let's wait with the dipro ghent for 15 minutes? jan 13 21:12:08 ok jan 13 21:12:16 I have received cell phone nrs from Rudy & Thijs jan 13 21:12:46 thx jan 13 21:12:50 good, always useful in case of unpredictable delays ;) jan 13 21:13:27 well I once hit a traffic jam close to that location at 1:00 in the night, so well :-) jan 13 21:14:16 yeah.. leuven is known for that.. jan 13 21:14:55 FrankVanDamme : don't forget a 5 min briefing to the team about what available is (hardware and software, including paswords) jan 13 21:15:58 ok. there's one all-in-one pc I already have, I'll test it before sunday jan 13 21:16:11 plus a few folks bring laptops/netbook jan 13 21:18:08 FrankVanDamme : do you have other question/comment ? jan 13 21:19:38 yes: one thing: I presume there are people from the dipro organization who are appointed to arranging stands and so forth? jan 13 21:20:15 yes, when you arrive, just ask where is the ubuntu stand ... jan 13 21:20:24 ok perfect jan 13 21:20:49 and eventually ask for additional chairs, table, ... jan 13 21:21:05 dipro people are cooperative jan 13 21:21:39 there will be ubuntu-be on the tables for teh stand jan 13 21:21:48 even better jan 13 21:21:51 a label with "ubuntu-be" jan 13 21:21:57 but best is to ask jan 13 21:22:14 and for the record, for those who intend to come early: we can enter at gate nr. 5 jan 13 21:22:16 otherwise you can run around the whole fair before finding ;) jan 13 21:22:38 so we ask. note taken jan 13 21:23:20 often you can unload your car near the "standhouders" entrance jan 13 21:23:33 not sure how parking is there? jan 13 21:23:58 if it's paid parking, maybe warn people to come by bus, or carpool... jan 13 21:24:30 that info should be on the brabanthalle website jan 13 21:25:17 jean7491: did Dipro say anything about that in a mail to you? jan 13 21:25:23 you can't come by bus.. -_-' jan 13 21:25:37 woutervddn: can't? jan 13 21:25:48 not on sunday apparently jan 13 21:25:53 huh jan 13 21:25:55 only on big events probably... jan 13 21:26:01 http://www.brabanthal.be/bereikbaarheid jan 13 21:26:02 I'm taking public transport to get there, but on sundays it can't be done jan 13 21:26:15 I would think there are fairs on Sunday there quite often? jan 13 21:26:27 (well you can but you'll have to walk for like 17 freakin minutes..) jan 13 21:26:43 oh what's 17' in a person's life. :) jan 13 21:27:03 alot :) jan 13 21:27:05 JanC: yeah it's strange, during the week there are over 30 busses passing there.. :s jan 13 21:27:26 public transport logic :-) jan 13 21:27:44 also, not fun if you have to carry a lot of course jan 13 21:28:28 There doesn't say allot on the website about parking space, this is all I find: "De centrale ligging, de vlotte bereikbaarheid via de Lijn en de ruime parking van ca. 1 000 wagens zijn een belangrijke troef bij de organisatie van een concert of een fuif. " jan 13 21:28:28 maybe the parking is cheap/free though jan 13 21:29:39 * trichard est parti (Remote host closed the connection) jan 13 21:30:21 sec. I'll ask my girlfriend, she worked not far from there.. jan 13 21:31:09 she thinks it is a paying parking but she wasn't sure of it.. jan 13 21:31:41 most of those parkings are payed-for jan 13 21:32:41 * massimo21 est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) jan 13 21:32:53 most have a way to make them paid, but that's not always used jan 13 21:33:08 and sometimes the "standhouders" can park for free/less jan 13 21:33:24 eventually we can ask dipro for information, but usually the closest parkings are to be paid, sometimes there is free parking at distance jan 13 21:34:11 so best is asking Dipro jan 13 21:34:33 i'll send a mail to dipro for info jan 13 21:34:52 hum, what is dipro in french ? jan 13 21:35:37 http://www.dipro.be/benl/micro_mega_market/fr jan 13 21:35:43 same name jan 13 21:36:03 other question for leuven ? jan 13 21:36:31 details are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Leuven_2011-01-16 jan 13 21:37:08 okay, anything more about Leuven ? jan 13 21:37:26 if no one has questions, it's OK for me jan 13 21:38:44 item #2 dipro computer fair hasselt 23/01/2011: already ok – comment massimo21 or clamam jan 13 21:39:01 Everything is ok jan 13 21:39:16 http://doodle.com/5d42z7bgdafpg25r?newDesign=true jan 13 21:39:46 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2011-01-23#preview jan 13 21:40:00 I have a question, what language do you use to a dipro meeting ? jan 13 21:40:49 it depends on where the dipro fairs is jan 13 21:40:58 ok : / jan 13 21:41:05 in Limburg it is dutch jan 13 21:41:09 I'll wait to a french or language dipro jan 13 21:41:15 or english jan 13 21:41:38 but hter are always a couple af vistors that speak french or italian or.... jan 13 21:41:48 k I'm back jan 13 21:42:12 sometimes a small number of French-speaking visitors show up at Dipro fairs in Flanders, but not many jan 13 21:42:22 last year we had a volunteer that spoke only spanish and was learning dutch jan 13 21:42:24 not sure if there is still a Dipro fair in Charleroi? jan 13 21:42:54 ah, yes, on 20/3 jan 13 21:42:59 Dipro computer fair Charleroi, 20/03/2011 , Palais des Expo Charleroi (Avenue de l'Europe 21) jan 13 21:43:29 i'll ask to the charleroi's hackerspace if they wants to visit it jan 13 21:44:00 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a rejoint #ubuntu-be jan 13 21:44:26 * massimo21 est parti (Remote host closed the connection) jan 13 21:45:21 jean7491: I think Rami is organising the booth at that fair, right? jan 13 21:46:07 i hope, ... jan 13 21:46:33 he organize it with a few local lug's jan 13 21:46:45 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a rejoint #ubuntu-be jan 13 21:47:01 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a quitté #ubuntu-be jan 13 21:47:05 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a rejoint #ubuntu-be jan 13 21:47:18 item #3 dipro computer fair ghent 30/01/2011: started today, jan 13 21:47:25 mimor ? jan 13 21:47:40 :) jan 13 21:47:50 has everyone seen the mail from kenneth? jan 13 21:48:09 I've seen it.. jan 13 21:49:42 I will maybe be there, but prefer somebody from Ghent to coordinate... ;) jan 13 21:49:49 yes, but 2 questions: 1. mimor , can you coordinate ? 2. who is volunteer ? jan 13 21:50:00 especially as I have to organise FOSDEM booth the next weekend jan 13 21:50:38 I have no idea what to do to coordinate jan 13 21:50:58 I'm also not 100% fond of the idea to coordinate jan 13 21:51:04 I'm in the middle of my exams right now jan 13 21:52:17 is there someone else willing to do it? jan 13 21:52:25 I can help out... that's for sure jan 13 21:52:39 is there some page on what to do to coordinate? jan 13 21:53:10 jean7491 JanC: ^^^ jan 13 21:53:11 mimor: you can base yourself on existing wiki pages and mailinglist conversations about eg the fair in Leuven jan 13 21:53:35 but I guess I'll need to contact the fair organisation jan 13 21:53:37 coordinate = make sure tehre are volunteers, that equipment will be there, etc. jan 13 21:53:57 mimor: no, me or jean7491 contact Dipro normally jan 13 21:54:12 ok jan 13 21:54:22 then, the only people sure to help out are: me jan 13 21:54:23 :s jan 13 21:54:24 just let us know when everything is okay jan 13 21:54:36 I'd say it's not very hard (hold wood I haven't forgotten anything for sunday ;) ) jan 13 21:54:44 I can send mails to the ML to ask for volunteers jan 13 21:55:10 yes, good idea jan 13 21:55:12 and keepa wiki page about the event up to date. it's a really handy tool to organize things. jan 13 21:55:14 mimor: also to people on the "map", and mayeb ask on the Dutch forum, etc. jan 13 21:55:25 ok ^^ jan 13 21:55:27 I'm on it jan 13 21:55:31 creating takslist jan 13 21:55:51 mimor: also, ask Kenny about a list of previous volunteers maybe jan 13 21:55:51 mailinglist, dutch forums & supportmap will be asked jan 13 21:56:02 good idea JanC jan 13 21:56:21 e.g. his friend who comes often might be able to come jan 13 21:57:06 mimor : i'll send you a few tips (from my personal experience) and other information jan 13 21:57:28 ok thx jan 13 21:57:30 then I'm in jan 13 21:57:46 I'll contact jean7491 and JanC if I found enough volunteers jan 13 21:57:54 ok, thx jan 13 21:58:03 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2011-01-23 jan 13 21:58:18 sorry wrong link ! jan 13 21:58:33 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31 jan 13 21:58:51 JanC : can you provide cd's and stickers “powered by ubuntu” for ghent jan 13 21:59:35 yes jan 13 22:00:11 ok, other question for ghent ? jan 13 22:01:54 item #4 next Dipro fair in February 2011: Kortrijk (06/02) – we start later ... jan 13 22:02:03 item #5 other events ... jan 13 22:02:12 digital week 2011, (28/02-05/03/2011) ... jan 13 22:02:20 remember, everyone can take an initiative in his environment, if possible in contact with other organizations jan 13 22:02:26 already scheduled on 03/03/2011: presentation (2 sessions) of Ubuntu in the public library - Ostend jan 13 22:03:38 other information about the digital week ? jan 13 22:05:58 I've talked to the informatic department on my school but I don't think they were font of the idea.. jan 13 22:06:29 (now trying to approach my 'I'm-font-of-linux'-docent for it.. jan 13 22:06:39 ok jan 13 22:07:07 JanC anything about fosdem ? jan 13 22:07:11 ow jan 13 22:07:26 for the digital week, the city of ghent is also planning to do something with multiseats jan 13 22:07:34 they already have contact with Guy for that jan 13 22:07:42 but just wanting to let you know jan 13 22:07:43 :) jan 13 22:07:53 mimor: good to know jan 13 22:07:59 I'm working on a mail about FOSDEM right now jan 13 22:08:20 ok mimor and JanC jan 13 22:08:21 we have a bigger booth than last year jan 13 22:08:30 so we need to show more ;) jan 13 22:08:32 good thing jan 13 22:09:04 will the dude be there with his arm-testbench? jan 13 22:09:06 that was awesome jan 13 22:09:10 there is this page about FOSDEM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011 jan 13 22:09:18 mimor: we'll see jan 13 22:09:32 k jan 13 22:09:46 I'm planning on going to fosdem, but I don't know if I can help, as I'm planning to help someone make a newsarticle for a linux site jan 13 22:10:16 newsarticle for a linux site? jan 13 22:10:20 for LXer.com jan 13 22:10:27 you can do that from behind the ubuntu booth ;) jan 13 22:10:43 But I have to take pictures and such jan 13 22:10:54 jimbauwens: it's 2 days, and you might be able to help for some time (or fetch beer/coffee/sandwiches for the peopel at the booth, or whatever jan 13 22:11:07 its my first time, and I would like to look around jan 13 22:11:10 Janc: ok jan 13 22:11:16 Janc: maybe =) jan 13 22:11:39 JanC: what marchandise will there be this year? jan 13 22:11:55 mimor: I hope we will have ubuntu-be t-shirts ;) jan 13 22:12:04 not sure yet? jan 13 22:12:09 on cups this year? jan 13 22:12:18 muggs jan 13 22:12:34 as we have a lot of time before fosdem, i propose we continue with the next topic promotion ! jan 13 22:12:42 I didn't order anything this year (as it's always a hassle with the credit card etc.) jan 13 22:12:42 Do you need any hardware? jan 13 22:13:53 jimbauwens: probably not, but will find that out later jan 13 22:13:58 ok jan 13 22:14:02 unless you have something special to show jan 13 22:14:18 JanC can we add fosdem at the next irc meeting and continue with promotion ? jan 13 22:14:25 yes jan 13 22:14:33 next topic # 2. Promotion jan 13 22:14:35 JanC: not really jan 13 22:14:38 ok jan 13 22:14:46 item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : jan 13 22:14:57 yup.. jan 13 22:15:10 your update ? jan 13 22:15:32 I emailed to cotton-shirts.eu to ask about the price for the 9th design. jan 13 22:16:00 They suggested that we choose another brand (this one is also both fairtrade and green) jan 13 22:16:25 reason for this change was the stitching on the side of the shirts.. jan 13 22:16:58 the shirt itself is about 0.02€ more expensive.. jan 13 22:18:20 woutervddn: which design was that again? jan 13 22:18:41 the one with the big logo on the side.. jan 13 22:19:02 http://ubuntu-be.org/sites/default/files/t-shirt_black-v9-be.png jan 13 22:19:42 and for printing we've got €11.12 per shirt (vat included) for design 9 and design 6, design 2 and 4 and 8would be €8.56 jan 13 22:20:00 last prices include everything but the shipment. jan 13 22:21:19 woutervddn: do they understand they have to print on the side for #9 ? jan 13 22:21:28 yes.. :) jan 13 22:21:33 based on how many t-shirts is that price? jan 13 22:21:42 that's based on 100 shirts. jan 13 22:22:03 we can probably sell more than 100...? jan 13 22:22:29 OTOH, we still have to pay them up front too of course jan 13 22:22:35 true. jan 13 22:22:59 if would buy 200 shirts it was a little less expensive I think.. (I'll look it up) jan 13 22:23:02 maybe best start with 100, we're not ubuntu-fr who have 4000 people on their release parties... ;) jan 13 22:23:32 it's 250 when the prices 'drop' again jan 13 22:23:33 woutervddn: but 200 x 10 € is almost all money we have, I think jan 13 22:24:12 idd jan 13 22:24:21 and I think we shouldn't invest all money in this jan 13 22:24:43 I agree jan 13 22:24:43 even if part of it will be back soon jan 13 22:25:22 imho we should start with 100, and see later for more (eventually) jan 13 22:25:25 I also agree on that.. jan 13 22:25:48 but personally 2.56 extra for the shirts means we can't make as much money out of it. jan 13 22:26:12 it's better to buy 100 t-shirts and wait until we sold enough to buy some more jan 13 22:26:15 so I'm not sure which one we should take.. what do you guys think? jan 13 22:26:35 we can make other designs in the future too jan 13 22:26:52 janc: true.. jan 13 22:27:14 (I'm workng on a webshop for two designer girls, maybe they want to design one for us in the future..) jan 13 22:27:26 the t-shirts can evolve with ubuntu each year jan 13 22:27:55 have you thougt about the sizes of the t-shirts? jan 13 22:28:12 L, M, S, XL ?? jan 13 22:28:20 Xs jan 13 22:28:22 we can mix up as we want.. jan 13 22:28:34 srr no xs jan 13 22:28:35 maybe some lady's t-shirts too? jan 13 22:28:37 s to xl jan 13 22:28:44 no XXL ? jan 13 22:28:50 or XS jan 13 22:28:59 ow, srr for males there is an xxl jan 13 22:29:03 not for girls. jan 13 22:29:18 I'd love to see girls in an ubuntu shirt.. [eye rolling] jan 13 22:29:56 woutervddn: maybe Laura will ;) jan 13 22:30:04 who's laura? :p jan 13 22:30:09 Laura? jan 13 22:30:14 and Kinouchou jan 13 22:30:28 see attendance list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011 jan 13 22:30:29 we've got female ubuntu-be users? :o jan 13 22:31:12 woutervddn: yes jan 13 22:31:26 not sure if they will be at FOSDEM though jan 13 22:31:38 wouter you wrote but personally 2.56 extra for the shirts means we can't make as much money out of it. - what do you mean ? jan 13 22:31:55 ... if you keep the price s the same jan 13 22:31:57 well, we have to ask more to make as much money jan 13 22:32:13 well that I'm not sure which shirt we should take.. I'd love to here your opinion jan 13 22:32:54 Offtopic: does anyone have a pogo/sheeva plug based device? Or even a Seagate freeagent dockstar? jan 13 22:32:55 * mongolito404 won't be at FOSDEM, but at the Bxl Drupal Developer Days :( jan 13 22:33:35 -1 for mongolito404 :p jan 13 22:33:55 anyways, do you guys think it's worth the 2.56 extra per shirt? jan 13 22:33:58 mongolito404: those are on the same day? jan 13 22:34:05 * mongolito404 plans to use Villo to visit FOSDEM anyway :D jan 13 22:34:25 JanC: yeah, I think the idea was to let people pick conference from both jan 13 22:34:42 +2 for mongolito404 (wearing an ubuntu-be shirt when transporting yourself will result in a +3) jan 13 22:34:45 they don't have a devroom anymore? jan 13 22:34:55 Schedule is not done yet, but I guess I'll want to attend 80-90% of the sessions on the Drupal site jan 13 22:35:20 woutervddn : it's worth the 2.56 extra per shirt? as i'm not sure of the result of the v9, i prefer another design jan 13 22:35:22 After 2 years of full devroom, I think to decided to try something else jan 13 22:35:37 makes sense jan 13 22:35:59 I guess they are in different location though? jan 13 22:36:01 wouter, what was the result of the last poll ? jan 13 22:36:23 JanC: Yes, not so close but I was told last week this should be doable on a bike. jan 13 22:36:39 to all : can we continue with the topic t-shirts ? jan 13 22:37:09 yeah sure, sorry jan 13 22:37:12 9 votes to v9, 6 votes to to v2, 3 votes for v4 and v6 and v8 jan 13 22:38:21 v6 is also costing 2.56 more because of the print on the sleeve so I wouldn't take that one. jan 13 22:38:42 (designs can be viewed at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection) jan 13 22:39:12 mongolito404, janc, the rest, what do you think about the extra 2.56 for v9? jan 13 22:39:44 I voted for V9 but I don't think the design is worth 2.56€ jan 13 22:40:01 imho, the v9 needs to be reviewed by a designer (exact place of the cof), for the difference in price, i prefer the v2 jan 13 22:40:40 but the idea of v9 can be improved for the next edition jan 13 22:40:47 i prefer v7-White jan 13 22:40:50 so we've got 2 no's on the v9.. anywone else? jan 13 22:41:32 maibe it's best to do new poll without v9 jan 13 22:41:59 people ho voted V9 can change their votes jan 13 22:42:12 can't we just use the previous poll result then? (the last poll was the same but without v9) jan 13 22:42:12 woutervddn : it is not "no", no opposition, but "i prefer" jan 13 22:42:17 i must go now, bye jan 13 22:42:19 * clamam (~claudio@d54C1F249.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be jan 13 22:43:10 I don't like v9 very much (prefer v4), but I'm not exactly against it either, and many people seem to love it, so with the extra cost I'm somewhat between -0 & -1 on v9 jan 13 22:43:18 jean7491: I designed it so my judgment isn't fair, but even I am doubting about the extra money.. jan 13 22:43:48 so new poll then? jan 13 22:43:51 then we have -2.5 on v9.. jan 13 22:44:20 did you count me to? jan 13 22:44:20 yup new poll.. :) But I wouldn't make a poll that lasts a week.. I want the shirts in belgium befor february.. jan 13 22:44:30 I prefer v4 or v7 or v1 ;) jan 13 22:44:54 I actually like v7 best... not sure if v9 is worth more jan 13 22:44:56 janC :p if you voted for v7 you were the only one :p jan 13 22:45:12 I probably voted v4 jan 13 22:45:16 Where can I find all the designs (I forgot) jan 13 22:45:20 i made V7 jan 13 22:45:20 then again my graphical insight is pretty close to zero jan 13 22:45:22 v4 is a copy of a previous t-shirt of canonical, ... jan 13 22:45:24 v7 is also 2.56 more guys, the sleeves also cost extra.. jan 13 22:45:32 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection jan 13 22:45:38 jimbauwens here http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection jan 13 22:46:29 it's 6, 7 and 9 that are more expensive.. so I'd pull them out of the poll aswell.. jan 13 22:46:37 I voted for 2 jan 13 22:46:59 ok jan 13 22:47:18 (I like 2, but I'm not sure about the position of the logo, it appears to be to high..) jan 13 22:47:53 in case you go for lower cost, I think v3 is still clearest and most elegant and has logo and name in the right proportion jan 13 22:48:44 Its to big (in my opinion), as it sticks to much out jan 13 22:48:50 frankvandamme I agree with you, but for 1 reason or another it only had 1 vote.. *-) jan 13 22:49:05 i think is isier to poll again instead to discuss it in this way jan 13 22:49:28 yeah, I guess you're right massimo. jan 13 22:49:41 And don't forget to put the prices by the poll :p jan 13 22:49:44 more expensive because they need printing twice jan 13 22:49:58 janC indeed.. jan 13 22:50:08 one last thing, for the sizes I thought 10 S, 25 M, 30 L , 10XL , 10XXL and 15 girlie shirts? jan 13 22:50:52 (just a quick idea.. I don't have a clue about sizes..) jan 13 22:51:13 sizes at small amounts are difficult to predict jan 13 22:51:40 If a remeber correctly, last year we were short on XL and XLL shirts jan 13 22:51:41 (our opinions about small amounts differ I guess :p) jan 13 22:51:55 there were shirts last year? jan 13 22:52:02 :o data about them? jan 13 22:52:18 i'm keaving now jan 13 22:52:24 most merchandising stands are first out of L's, then the rest; jan 13 22:52:25 here you guys next week jan 13 22:52:34 o/ jan 13 22:52:36 good night jan 13 22:52:38 it is easier to use a to large t-shirt than a too small ! jan 13 22:52:42 'night jan 13 22:52:45 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.44.137) a quitté #ubuntu-be jan 13 22:52:49 night jan 13 22:53:05 jean7491: any idea about a better way of putting the sizes? jan 13 22:55:03 no experience, just a personal opinion in your proposal : less medium (15) and more xl (20) jan 13 22:55:36 ok.. jan 13 22:56:41 I think 10 S might be much jan 13 22:56:53 probably, yes jan 13 22:57:03 there are not so many "small males" jan 13 22:57:07 most even wear L jan 13 22:57:16 well, some older kids maybe jan 13 22:57:21 i understand a new poll with a limited number of design (due to price review) and a short period jan 13 22:57:31 so what do you think about 5S 20M 30L 20XL 10XXL jan 13 22:57:41 jean7491 yes, I'll put it online tonight. jan 13 22:57:45 better jan 13 22:57:54 sounds better, yes jan 13 22:57:59 ok jan 13 22:58:11 ok.. jan 13 22:58:17 we still have time to review sizes jan 13 22:58:42 ok for t-shirts, we continue ? jan 13 22:58:52 with nest item ? jan 13 22:59:04 yup.. jan 13 22:59:10 * woutervddn changing room jan 13 22:59:27 item #2 promotion material for fairs/events : a few ideas ... jan 13 22:59:34 about other promo items... jan 13 22:59:43 a few stickers “Powered by Ubuntu” should be available in every booth/event. jan 13 22:59:50 are there other stickers or other material available by canonical ? jan 13 22:59:51 this week I received a table cloth & a banner from Canonical jan 13 23:00:05 nice ! jan 13 23:00:25 and I received the conference pack I ordered jan 13 23:00:39 I wonder if I should order CDs for FOSDEM too? jan 13 23:01:03 (maybe use part of these for fairs if needed?) jan 13 23:01:31 JanC : can you send me pictures of the banner and table cloth, with details (size) jan 13 23:01:39 I'll have to leave guys, need to get up early. I'll stay logged in though. catch you later (sunday eg) jan 13 23:01:44 one new thing in the conference pack is that it has lots of lanyards jan 13 23:02:06 FrankVanDamme : bye jan 13 23:02:19 which we can distribute to several promo boxes later jan 13 23:02:28 FrankVanDamme: 'night jan 13 23:02:29 ok jan 13 23:02:57 55 lanyards jan 13 23:03:08 * wouter_vddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be jan 13 23:03:11 ok, another material : i saw an ubuntu-calendar 2011 in spanish and french jan 13 23:03:16 sp : http://spreadubuntu.org/es/material/unusual/calendario-ubuntu-ubuntu-calendar jan 13 23:03:23 fr : http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/calendrier-ubuntu-ubuntu-calendar jan 13 23:03:30 is there a volunteer to translate the svg file in dutch ? jan 13 23:04:03 * woutervddn est parti (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) jan 13 23:04:12 it's just month names? jan 13 23:04:37 yes, but in svg jan 13 23:04:39 shouldn't be difficult... jan 13 23:04:40 when must it be finished? jan 13 23:05:15 no limit, just a goodie for the booths jan 13 23:05:27 I'll translate it.. :) jan 13 23:05:38 but then I'll have to do it tomorrow, else I'll forget.. jan 13 23:06:33 :P jan 13 23:06:53 an idea is herhaps to use colored paper (120gr sheet) to spare ink jan 13 23:06:55 don't forget the t-shirts need to be ready too ;) jan 13 23:07:40 jean7491, how would you put the white inkt on it then? jan 13 23:08:05 janc, I know ;-) jan 13 23:08:06 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg) jan 13 23:08:43 making a version with a white background sounds more feasible then ;) jan 13 23:09:09 with yellow writing jan 13 23:09:47 hmm.. I'll take a look at it :) jan 13 23:09:54 Yelow on white? jan 13 23:10:01 yellow* jan 13 23:10:12 I would just invert the purple & white or such jan 13 23:10:31 (except in the logo!) jan 13 23:10:31 janc: good idea.. jan 13 23:10:42 but to be printed on colored paper (violet) jan 13 23:11:07 you can't print lighter colours on (dark) purple paper jan 13 23:11:08 I'm colorblind, so some combinations don't seem right for me :p jan 13 23:11:43 well, depends on printing technique used, but not with inkjet etc. jan 13 23:12:31 How many would you need? jan 13 23:12:58 what? jan 13 23:13:06 an alternative is to use sand colored paper (160 gr) (i have enough paper) jan 13 23:13:15 Calenders jan 13 23:13:25 with violer ink for writing jan 13 23:13:28 isn't that something peopel can print at home? jan 13 23:13:31 violet jan 13 23:14:29 janC it could be a nice gadget.. jan 13 23:14:30 of course print at homen but needs 160 gr paper jan 13 23:14:45 quite cheap and people would use it a whole year.. jan 13 23:14:49 very neat idea.. jan 13 23:14:55 I'll go to bed. No news regarding the map, but I fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/684443 for the website. Also, I remind everyone interested that a) I'm available to mentor any work on the website, just ask. b) we can still open a ML for webeditors if we feel there is a need (Im starting to think there is actually a huge need for this, to encourage peopele to mail) jan 13 23:16:06 ok, next time we will start with wiki and website ! jan 13 23:16:32 ok.. jan 13 23:16:55 still about promotion ... jan 13 23:17:11 nice that that bug is gone.. ;-) jan 13 23:17:15 About the flyers ubuntu-be a6 (2009): I expect that our stock will out/empty in june 2011 : are there ideas for a new design ? jan 13 23:17:30 The bug isn't "gone", I fixed it :D jan 13 23:17:34 good night all jan 13 23:17:42 lol that's what i meant :p jan 13 23:17:44 good night jan 13 23:17:45 o/ jan 13 23:17:50 mongolito404: night jan 13 23:17:51 have an url to that jean? jan 13 23:18:01 I've never seen the flyers.. jan 13 23:18:13 * mongolito404 (~mongolito@83.101.32.215) a quitté #ubuntu-be jan 13 23:18:18 mongolito404: thanks for fixing! jan 13 23:19:17 wouter : see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial jan 13 23:19:36 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=flyer+2009.resized.jpg I guess jan 13 23:19:48 we need a new design based on the new logo & font jan 13 23:20:12 i just launch an idea for reaction through the ml jan 13 23:20:13 I'll look in to it.. I'm getting along well with gimp lately.. :p jan 13 23:20:43 next item #3 education – courses jan 13 23:20:49 (and other linux art programs) jan 13 23:21:00 for information, a course linux-2 start in ostend (deavondschool.be) on 25/01/2011 jan 13 23:21:44 to continue topic # 3. Update Wiki : are there suggestions or comments jan 13 23:21:51 and one in Hageland too,a round the same time jan 13 23:22:18 no comments/suggestions for now jan 13 23:22:56 topic# 4. Update web-site : you already read from mongolito404 , other comment ? jan 13 23:23:10 social networks.. jan 13 23:23:30 since we have a twitter and a facebook account we might want to blend those in with the site.. jan 13 23:23:44 I think both the social account and the website can benefit from it.. jan 13 23:23:56 we also have an identi.ca account etc. jan 13 23:24:03 or group jan 13 23:24:11 janC: I read about that, but didn't it say it was unused? jan 13 23:24:22 for me ok for both jan 13 23:24:54 btw i forget to ask clamam to update the facebook page with events jan 13 23:25:24 maybe we need automatic updates ;) jan 13 23:25:53 can that be done? jan 13 23:26:02 everything can be done jan 13 23:26:24 on facebook you can't do everything you want :p jan 13 23:26:47 but it's definitely something we should look at.. jan 13 23:26:51 if you can post messages,you can also automate it ;) jan 13 23:27:14 anyway, not an issue for this meeting jan 13 23:27:22 i'll mail tomorrow to clamam for (manual) update jan 13 23:27:31 next topic # 5. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ? jan 13 23:27:42 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/399194 is this bug fixed allready? (contact the events team) jan 13 23:28:53 wouter_vddn: to be honest, I'd like to end the meeting soon ;) jan 13 23:29:02 sorry.. :p jan 13 23:29:11 next irc meeting ? on thursday 20/01/2011 at 21 h. jan 13 23:29:20 good for me.. jan 13 23:29:23 ok jan 13 23:29:35 end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !