fév 10 21:01:27 hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? fév 10 21:01:39 o/ fév 10 21:02:08 Me fév 10 21:02:24 hello all fév 10 21:02:53 le fév 10 21:02:56 *me fév 10 21:03:20 i'm the colleague of Adrien RAMI fév 10 21:03:41 hello JanC jimbauwens sylvaintechnic (welcome!) warddr fév 10 21:03:49 welcome sylvaintechnic ☺ fév 10 21:05:22 Adrien RAMI come. He had a technical problem ;) fév 10 21:05:49 [2011-02-10 20:31] * ramtar (~ramtar@78.129.23.239) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be fév 10 21:05:49 [2011-02-10 20:35] * ramtar heeft verlaten (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) fév 10 21:06:26 massimo21 ? mimor ? mongolito404 ? fév 10 21:08:51 * woutervddn (~wouter@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be fév 10 21:09:01 hi everyone.. fév 10 21:09:11 hi woutervddn fév 10 21:09:15 Hi :) fév 10 21:09:17 do you have the adress of web irc? fév 10 21:09:22 o/ fév 10 21:09:34 for Adrien fév 10 21:10:14 http://ubuntu-be.org/en/irc fév 10 21:10:38 thanks fév 10 21:10:49 * ramtar (4e8117ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.129.23.239) a rejoint #ubuntu-be fév 10 21:11:05 welcome Adrien ;) ;) fév 10 21:11:14 hi sorry something goes wrong with empathy and pidgin don't know what :/ fév 10 21:11:24 hi ramtar fév 10 21:11:35 i propose we start now fév 10 21:11:35 hi ramtar o/ fév 10 21:11:39 yes fév 10 21:11:47 topic #1. Past and future events fév 10 21:11:54 item #1 Dipro fair Kortrijk 06/02/2011 - report fév 10 21:12:02 good event, see report and pictures in the wiki ... fév 10 21:12:10 wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2011-02-06 fév 10 21:13:01 i made some remarks about promotion material, but we can speak about it later fév 10 21:13:20 if no comment now, item #2 fév 10 21:13:25 item #2 fosdem 05-06/02/2011 – report JanC ?... fév 10 21:14:05 JanC : what can you tell about fosdem ? fév 10 21:14:11 I'm still collecting everything I need to write a complete report, but things went pretty well, also thanks to the help of ubuntu-fr fév 10 21:15:06 we sold lots of t-shirts & chocolates (and ubuntu-fr sold their own t-shirts, case badges, plastic mugs, etc.) fév 10 21:15:24 we will also need to order more t-shirts fév 10 21:16:13 there are some leftover tux chocolates for other booths (e.g. Antwerp) fév 10 21:16:18 lol I'm happy to hear that. fév 10 21:16:36 woutervddn: I will send the leftover # to the ML later fév 10 21:16:41 Hi fév 10 21:17:15 ok, happy that it went good! JanC thanks, please add (later) a short report in the wiki and link on the home page belgianteam/activities fév 10 21:17:18 we also bought metalic case badges fro mubuntu-fr fév 10 21:17:30 we can sell them for e.g. 0.5 € fév 10 21:17:38 Janc: We'll discuss about how to get them here later this evening fév 10 21:17:51 hi mongolito404 fév 10 21:17:51 woutervddn: after teh meeting best ;) fév 10 21:18:00 idd fév 10 21:18:34 I think we paid 75 € for 200 metalic case badges, or something like that fév 10 21:18:50 * padv est parti (Remote host closed the connection) fév 10 21:20:04 other comment now about fosdem ? fév 10 21:20:15 I thought the tux chocolates were awesome.. fév 10 21:20:21 It was fun :) fév 10 21:20:28 it was a good event, only next time we need a litle more cd's fév 10 21:20:37 they were very tasty but there was 1 downside about them :( fév 10 21:20:41 my girlfriend liked them also :( fév 10 21:20:48 :D fév 10 21:20:52 xD fév 10 21:21:28 next item #3 hobby and computers days - antwerp 26-27/02/2011 fév 10 21:21:36 ubuntu-be will organize a booth during the 2 days, … fév 10 21:21:46 therefore, we need at least 2x4 volunteers. Names are already in, but not enough, we need 2 additional volunteers each day. fév 10 21:21:54 willing to help promoting ubuntu ? please add your names in the wiki fév 10 21:21:54 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2011-02-26-27 fév 10 21:22:38 who's leading the event in antwerp? fév 10 21:22:43 Bram fév 10 21:22:44 we will have to think about moving material to antwerp (chocolates, cd's, t-shirts, metallic case badges (?), ... fév 10 21:23:14 there was 1 person who liked to pick up his shirt at dipro antwerp<;; fév 10 21:23:15 * wouter_vddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be fév 10 21:23:24 jean7491, with kiala you can send a really big box for very little price fév 10 21:23:25 * woutervddn est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg) fév 10 21:23:57 * wouter_vddn s'appelle maintenant woutervddn fév 10 21:25:34 @ warddr : ok, perhaps usefull for woutervddn fév 10 21:26:00 R u talking about sending shirts to the eventteams? fév 10 21:26:14 (missed a part because I changed computer) fév 10 21:26:35 Here's the link: http://kiala.be/nl/e2s_light €4 to send up to 15Kg fév 10 21:27:17 that's cheap.. fév 10 21:27:56 other comment about a'pen ? fév 10 21:27:59 nero will pick up stuff for Antwerp fév 10 21:28:11 nice fév 10 21:28:34 I can give him all t-shirts fév 10 21:28:49 that way they are a lot closer to woutervddn too ;) fév 10 21:29:56 indeed fév 10 21:29:57 JanC - to be arranged with woutervddn, nero and bram ! fév 10 21:30:15 jan do you have a rough amount of shirts that are left? fév 10 21:30:25 leftover t-shirts: Women: S = 1 ∘ M = 2 ∘ L = 4 • Men: M = 4 ∘ L = 8 ∘ XL = 1 fév 10 21:31:12 unless there are some t-shirts at the bottom of another box, that's all... ;) fév 10 21:31:14 so that means 80 shirts sold on fosdem + 26 sold with the presale.. fév 10 21:31:21 nice.. fév 10 21:31:31 which means we need to order more ASAP fév 10 21:31:40 and some kubuntu shirts fév 10 21:32:13 I'll sent them a mail this evening.. but are we talking about promotion stuff allready? fév 10 21:32:42 not yet, i prefer to first finish with events ! fév 10 21:32:50 we can discuss this further later fév 10 21:33:08 ok item #4 digital week 2011, (28/02-04/03/2011) fév 10 21:33:13 already scheduled on 03/03/2011: presentation (2 sessions) of Ubuntu in the public library – Ostend fév 10 21:33:19 wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/DigitalWeek-2011 fév 10 21:33:27 volunteers to help in ostend: let it me know. fév 10 21:33:34 Other event on 26/02 in Niel : see http://www.digitaleweek.be/activiteiten-2011/infodag-computerclub-monitor-niel-vzw fév 10 21:33:52 any other input on digital week 2011 ? fév 10 21:33:57 * El-Kodar est parti (Quit: Ex-Chat) fév 10 21:34:28 if not, ... fév 10 21:34:41 tem #5 dipro fair brugge – 13/03/2011 - volunteers, please add your names in the wiki fév 10 21:34:47 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2011-03-13 fév 10 21:35:07 item #6 dipro charleroi – 20/03/2011, ... fév 10 21:35:19 volunteers, please add your names in the wiki fév 10 21:35:19 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Charleroi_2011-03-20 fév 10 21:35:32 ramtar ? comment ? fév 10 21:35:43 I have contact Lugs fév 10 21:35:49 They will come for the event fév 10 21:35:59 they will be there culbutte and laclic fév 10 21:36:08 I will complete the page ASAP fév 10 21:36:13 good ! fév 10 21:36:26 Present too ;) for Charleroi fév 10 21:36:39 thx ! fév 10 21:36:44 we need to get some stuff to Charleroi too before that... fév 10 21:36:45 And I would like have information to reserve the stand fév 10 21:37:18 i can do it for you, no problem ! fév 10 21:37:24 ok cool :) fév 10 21:37:56 item # 7 other events ? fév 10 21:37:57 I speak about selling stuff in the Dipro (Ubuntu shirt and so end.) fév 10 21:38:31 ok, fév 10 21:39:19 I will contact you later about that. Just to arrange to take some stuff for the Dipro (could use kiala for it) fév 10 21:39:37 ok fév 10 21:39:41 also, how large the booth needs to be etc. fév 10 21:39:50 ok :) fév 10 21:40:06 (I don't know if the LUGs plan to show their own stuff or not... ;) ) fév 10 21:40:44 yes they bring they own stuff fév 10 21:40:46 not a lot fév 10 21:40:57 just some flyers fév 10 21:41:18 and I think there is an educoo and mozilla stand this year fév 10 21:41:52 ah, maybe useful to "cluster" all those together ;) fév 10 21:42:20 yes we will do that :) fév 10 21:42:39 and i think Sylvain has a Tuxdroid for this year? fév 10 21:42:46 :) fév 10 21:42:59 ramtar: ah yes , i confirm ;) fév 10 21:43:04 hehe, thats' always a good thing to attract kids ;) fév 10 21:43:09 perhaps we can ask dipro to set the booths close to each others fév 10 21:43:09 Tuxdroid? fév 10 21:43:31 in fact we reserve the stand to the nouns of ubuntu fév 10 21:43:36 and we share the cost of stand fév 10 21:43:45 it's more easier for all fév 10 21:44:00 last year we do that Sylvain and I with the stand Ubuntu Educoo fév 10 21:44:22 ok, we discuss it later off line fév 10 21:44:26 ok fév 10 21:44:28 jimbauwens: an open source penguin "robot" ;) fév 10 21:44:47 those tuxdroids are super but way to expensive :( fév 10 21:44:58 Yes, I googled it, it looks awsome! fév 10 21:45:08 woutervddn: no , for me at 70€ (sold) fév 10 21:45:43 in some places you can get them for 50-100 € (the Belgian company that made them has gone bankrupt... :-( ) fév 10 21:45:55 other comments about events ? ... if not, we continue with topic #2 promotion fév 10 21:46:08 JanC: yes, i confirm fév 10 21:46:08 it's ok for the dipro charleroi :) fév 10 21:47:09 oh, something that also happened at FOSDEM: I got the leftover "Weg naar de vrijheid" posters and gave 750 of them to ubuntu-nl fév 10 21:47:25 gave 250 to Guy Duportail fév 10 21:47:34 now I have between 750 & 1000 left :P fév 10 21:47:48 ok, nice fév 10 21:47:53 lol fév 10 21:47:53 so these need distribution too fév 10 21:49:09 * mongolito404 has a TuxDroid sitting in its box, no time to play :( fév 10 21:49:12 maybe we can make it a stunt for Antwerp: free poster for the first X people who tell their Ubuntu story at the booth ;) fév 10 21:49:32 good idea :) fév 10 21:49:43 and ask Dipro to put that in their mail & on their site fév 10 21:49:52 indeed, good idea.. maybe you can also hand out posters to people who install ubuntu at the fair fév 10 21:50:41 they have the old logo etc., so we shouldn't keep them forever... fév 10 21:51:55 we have to ask bram for that ... and after a'pen, dipro brugge : same action ! fév 10 21:52:28 maybe Dipro wants to put that on their site or something? fév 10 21:53:32 it's a good promo for them too ;) fév 10 21:54:18 is their a way to put their story on paper or something? fév 10 21:54:25 we have to ask for and motivate the request. easier for the post before the dipro, but i doubt the public (visitors) are concerned by the mail fév 10 21:54:26 might be nice to add to the site fév 10 21:55:06 we can ask them to write it down on a computer / notebook dedicated for that purpose? fév 10 21:55:12 woutervddn: it's just an excuse to give away posters to Ubuntu-enthousiast people, not just to every poster collector ;) fév 10 21:55:26 but writing down is an option too of course fév 10 21:55:46 I know but people's stories can convince others.. fév 10 21:55:56 right fév 10 21:56:24 good idea, let's think about it, all aspects, and we speak about it later fév 10 21:56:32 +1 on that fév 10 21:56:47 next topic # 2. Promotion item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : ... fév 10 21:57:04 well, we talked about that earlier ☺ fév 10 21:57:14 woutervddn: will have to order more t-shirts... fév 10 21:57:27 indeed.. same amount as the first time? fév 10 21:57:32 as said, we have to order again, same design ? fév 10 21:57:52 jean7491, we should do that, people ordered the old design fév 10 21:57:58 @jean7491: I would take the same design as people who ordered online expect to get the same design.. fév 10 21:57:59 woutervddn: maybe check what sizes were sold out compared to the amount ordered etc. fév 10 21:58:07 what sort of promotion item can we take? fév 10 21:58:48 @janC: indeed although I think Dipro people are slightly bigger then Fosdem people.. (I noticed the smaller amounts sold very well) fév 10 21:59:14 woutervddn: there were less of the smaller sizes to begin with ;) fév 10 21:59:24 yeah that's true.. fév 10 21:59:27 i only saw 1 ex and though the logo has to be 10 to 20 cm. higher : your opinion ? fév 10 21:59:43 jean, do you mean higher or bigger? fév 10 22:00:04 plus, maybe kids t-shirts are a possibility too for Dipro? fév 10 22:00:05 jean7491, indeed, it looks good on the small ones fév 10 22:00:06 higher as we have to stay in a3 form fév 10 22:00:13 Indeed.. :) fév 10 22:00:55 you should also ask if the stamp is preserved, that will make ordering more t-shirts with the same design cheaper fév 10 22:01:02 I agree with JanC that kids shirts are a good idea, but that will be a seperate design as an A3 doesn't fit on smaller sizes.. fév 10 22:01:12 @warddr I will.. fév 10 22:01:32 ramtar: for Charleroi you can get t-shirts & metalic case badges to sell, some CDs and plastic case badges for free fév 10 22:01:46 okay fév 10 22:02:16 i don't have any flyers in french though fév 10 22:02:16 can we have something to decorate the stand? fév 10 22:02:17 what about the kubuntu shirts? fév 10 22:02:23 or maybe buy? fév 10 22:03:00 there are some kubuntu leftovers with the old design fév 10 22:03:09 @ woutervddn - before order, check by mark if ok ? fév 10 22:03:23 ok.. fév 10 22:03:35 woutervddn: there are a limited number of kubuntu shirts left, but I'm not sending those around (there are only 4 or 5 left I think?) fév 10 22:04:06 I agree with ward that kubuntu shirts might be a good idea. but I have some questions about that fév 10 22:04:15 A. does everyone think that is a good idea fév 10 22:04:25 @ ramtar - we will have to check what we can do about deco and promo mat. fév 10 22:04:34 I just told they didn't sell wel fév 10 22:04:37 okay thanks :) fév 10 22:04:42 woutervddn: no separate kubuntu t-shirts please ;) fév 10 22:04:43 B. Can we do that without asking kubuntu.org fév 10 22:04:57 we've got lots of kubuntu t-shirt leftovers fév 10 22:05:00 we don't have kubuntu-be ;) fév 10 22:05:10 now not anymore, but we had a lot fév 10 22:05:36 ubuntu-be is there for ubuntu, kubuntu, etc. fév 10 22:05:57 janc, don't you think there are a lot of Ku users who would like a shirt like that? fév 10 22:06:27 there are a lot less than those who want an ubuntu-be t-shirt fév 10 22:06:30 Maybe have a poll about it? fév 10 22:06:34 i've no idea about the need of 100 kubuntu-be t-shirts? fév 10 22:06:49 there si no kubuntu-be to start with ;) fév 10 22:07:13 janC: aren't we here to support ubuntu and his derivates? fév 10 22:07:34 woutervddn: the ubuntu-be t-shirt is for all derivates fév 10 22:07:45 +1 fév 10 22:08:31 ok if everyone else agrees on it.. fév 10 22:08:31 there is no license with the t-shirts that says you must use GNOME or Unity or whatever ;) fév 10 22:08:42 I also agree with JanC , It will take years to sell them.. fév 10 22:09:13 it took 2 years to sell most of about 20 kubuntu t-shirts now... fév 10 22:09:15 yes or you have to find sticker for tshirt for who want a K L X in front of his Ubuntu T Shirt :p fév 10 22:09:27 or maybe there were 30 fév 10 22:09:41 ramtar: lol fév 10 22:09:50 hmm.. okay then, I just thought there were a lot of Ku users (among my friends there are a lot of them) fév 10 22:09:56 ramtar: and Edu, Myth, etc. ;) fév 10 22:10:15 of course i forget about it :p fév 10 22:10:33 woutervddn: well, Kubuntu-users don't buy t-shirts it seems :P fév 10 22:10:45 summary: woutervddn > order another 100 t-shirts, same design, if possible higher (?), with ok from mark ... fév 10 22:10:48 :p fév 10 22:11:18 because i suppose money is not yet back to mark ? fév 10 22:11:20 kids Tshirts with a different design put on the long run then? fév 10 22:11:43 Maybe find something cute for kids fév 10 22:11:57 yes, I think we should think about a "funny" design for kids ;) fév 10 22:12:01 Kids like tux fév 10 22:12:02 It would be nice to have a new design next year, maybe make some kids t-shirts than fév 10 22:12:10 My sister does at least fév 10 22:12:21 * yanu est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer) fév 10 22:12:31 lol at jim fév 10 22:12:31 I have a friend who made the design of gcompris fév 10 22:12:32 jimbauwens, everyone loves tux fév 10 22:12:35 * yanu (~yanu@178-117-229-179.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be fév 10 22:12:35 * yanu est parti (Changing host) fév 10 22:12:35 * yanu (~yanu@lugwv/member/yanu) a rejoint #ubuntu-be fév 10 22:12:41 :) fév 10 22:12:44 he could find a cute and funny design for tshirt fév 10 22:12:44 warddr: true :P fév 10 22:12:58 even chocolate factories love Tux :P fév 10 22:13:05 after the new order, we can look for new ideas and designs fév 10 22:13:07 ramtar we could make a wiki page for it so people can sent their designs in.. fév 10 22:13:19 @jean: ok fév 10 22:13:20 woutervddn: could idea :) fév 10 22:13:47 A design I like for kids is the one in the about-screen of virtualbox: http://www.qweas.com/downloads/system/other/scr-virtualbox-for-mac.png fév 10 22:13:59 about the chocolates.. 1 more thing.. would it be possible to order an amount of them with a white wrap and the U logo on it? fév 10 22:14:27 warddr: Good but not enough "cute" or "funny" i think fév 10 22:14:50 a good design for virtual box ;) fév 10 22:15:15 other designs and ideas are for later, do we order the same sizes ? fév 10 22:15:29 babies make every design look cute, even when it's just the logo: fév 10 22:15:30 http://www.appunti-liberi.it/wp-content/immagini/baby_ubuntu1.jpg fév 10 22:15:56 woutervddn: what a smart baby :D fév 10 22:15:57 I would take a look at the sold amount and base the amount we order on that.. fév 10 22:16:11 woutervddn: we would have to ask that, and they would probably be more expensive then fév 10 22:16:21 how do you mean jan? fév 10 22:16:35 the chocolates fév 10 22:16:54 ow.. would it be something worth to look in to it? fév 10 22:17:21 If someone buys more of those choclats I'd like to order a box of them fév 10 22:17:29 me to :p fév 10 22:17:55 I'll talk to Mark about that then, he has ordered them before... fév 10 22:18:07 can we close the item t-shirts and continue with next item ? fév 10 22:18:13 yes fév 10 22:18:31 item #2 other material - promotion material for fairs/events : first proposal: flyers 2011 ... fév 10 22:18:40 please look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011 fév 10 22:18:40 and add your proposals/comments in the mailing list and in the wiki page fév 10 22:19:14 I was so full with stuff to do that I didn't have the time to work on the new flyer.. fév 10 22:19:34 no problem ! fév 10 22:19:35 are there any ready-to-use flyers for Charleroi yet? fév 10 22:19:40 Excuse me, but I have to leave. I have a long day tomorrow with my director. fév 10 22:19:42 good night fév 10 22:19:53 bye fév 10 22:19:54 ok bye fév 10 22:19:54 slaapwel sylvaintechnic ;) fév 10 22:19:55 :) fév 10 22:19:58 good night ;) fév 10 22:19:59 but I like lentini's latest proposal.. fév 10 22:20:02 good night fév 10 22:20:18 We don't have it but I can make one it's not a problem :) fév 10 22:20:25 with the new design of Ubuntu fév 10 22:20:31 * sylvaintechnic (~sylvainte@37.2-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be fév 10 22:20:52 ready-to-use flyers for Charleroi yet? not yet, perhaps a fr version of the new (inkfirndly) design ? fév 10 22:20:58 ramtar: maybe you can make a french version of one of the new designs on the wiki fév 10 22:21:13 yes i will do that :) fév 10 22:21:27 second proposal: rollups ... fév 10 22:21:40 first proposals are in the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011 fév 10 22:21:40 please add your suggestions/comments in the wiki and/or in the mailing list: fév 10 22:21:42 @ramtar: if you make a new design please submit your source file so we can translate it also fév 10 22:22:06 okay I if do a new one I will give you the source :) fév 10 22:22:20 Do you have a preference? Gimp ? Inkscape? fév 10 22:22:44 I use .svg's of inkscape but you can choose fév 10 22:22:51 @ woutervddn perhaps send the source file (nl) you have to ramtar fév 10 22:23:07 About the rollups: I emailed canonical with the question if we could buy roll ups from them (and if they have other stuff available for loco teams but I didn't get a reply yet fév 10 22:23:26 I will, I forgot to put it on the wiki sry.. fév 10 22:23:58 ok, we continue fév 10 22:24:08 item #3 press contact french fév 10 22:24:10 Canonical has rollups but only for internal use AFAIK fév 10 22:24:41 woutervddn: maybe it's better we put that on the loco-council agenda or something? ☺ fév 10 22:24:42 but it could be a question of interest for all loco teams ? fév 10 22:24:53 jean7491: exactly fév 10 22:25:12 indeed.. I hope the fact that it takes them so long to answer is a sign that they are seriously considering it.. fév 10 22:25:59 my guess is that they saw a random person asking for rollups and there is no procedure for that, so they don't know what to do ;) fév 10 22:26:11 and better to launch it at the same time via loco-teams council fév 10 22:27:26 anyone who's a member of the council? fév 10 22:27:32 I was fév 10 22:27:48 there is no one now? fév 10 22:27:49 @jan well they do know it's not for a person but for a loco team.. I had to specify that.. fév 10 22:28:05 JanC - perhaps through the loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com (mailing list) ? fév 10 22:28:31 jean7491: yeah, that's a good idea fév 10 22:28:54 again a "to do" ! fév 10 22:29:01 woutervddn: questions from locoteams normally come through the loco contact fév 10 22:29:31 thanks for initiating the question as poc ! fév 10 22:29:38 I asked it directly to canonical on the same place where I asked for the shirts.. fév 10 22:29:40 everybody can subscripe to the groupe? fév 10 22:29:45 JanC! fév 10 22:29:56 * streep (~streep@188.188.97.57) a rejoint #ubuntu-be fév 10 22:30:06 ramtar : yes fév 10 22:30:18 janc: can you ask the loco-contacts about it? fév 10 22:30:23 what exactly do we want to propose? buying rollups or getting them for free, or... ? fév 10 22:30:40 or a combination? fév 10 22:30:46 I don't think they will be giving them for free.. but we can try.. fév 10 22:30:57 +1 fév 10 22:30:57 preference free, but ... ! fév 10 22:31:09 they gave the table cloth & the banner ;) fév 10 22:31:34 if we can get rollups for half of the price we would pay for it, it's definately a good thing fév 10 22:31:46 but maybe they can sell extra promo-stuff at price of cost to locoteams... fév 10 22:31:59 perhaps if we have support from enough loco-teams ? fév 10 22:32:07 @janC: that's a good idea fév 10 22:32:33 I threw that rock at canonical also.. fév 10 22:32:58 ok, next item ? fév 10 22:33:05 although it's only useful if it's cheaper than having rollups printed ourselves... fév 10 22:33:20 of course ! fév 10 22:33:27 indeed fév 10 22:33:41 and including shipping fév 10 22:34:21 we continue ... ? next item ? fév 10 22:34:26 ok fév 10 22:34:27 ok fév 10 22:34:29 ok fév 10 22:34:39 item #3 press contact french fév 10 22:34:45 ramtar is volunteer to replace nicolas p. who resigned a few months ago: are there remarks? fév 10 22:34:55 Yes fév 10 22:35:15 Sylvain is not here but we think it would be a good think that a can replace me fév 10 22:35:38 he is right with that fév 10 22:35:49 I think it's a very good thing that we finally have a french press contract! fév 10 22:36:17 you mean sylvain as suppleant fév 10 22:36:21 yes fév 10 22:36:25 that's the word :) fév 10 22:36:53 we work a lot together and I became is suppleant for Educoo fév 10 22:37:06 you mean you will both be press contacts? fév 10 22:37:20 ramtar: I'll update the (new) contact from to use ramtar and Sylvain's addresses for French press contact. fév 10 22:37:39 no fév 10 22:37:52 Sylvain is Educoo Leader for Belgium fév 10 22:38:00 and I became Co Leader fév 10 22:38:13 I mean for ubuntu-be ;) fév 10 22:38:21 yes :) fév 10 22:38:40 it's good to have "backup" press contacts fév 10 22:39:03 i presume: ramtar as first contact, sylvain as second fév 10 22:39:13 jean7491: Yes :) fév 10 22:39:13 I'm with jan on that fév 10 22:39:45 if no objection, i propose we approve the 2 applications now. fév 10 22:39:45 at some point we can setup mailing lists or forwards for that... fév 10 22:40:02 ok for me fév 10 22:40:03 +1 about approving them fév 10 22:40:19 fine for me fév 10 22:40:27 ok for me (but do I have anything to say :p) fév 10 22:40:34 on the bugs section we allready talked about making an email address for it.. fév 10 22:42:10 For press contact I could create a special email with domain name fév 10 22:42:20 like pressubuntu@adrien.be fév 10 22:42:40 or pressfr.ubuntu@adrien.be fév 10 22:42:40 you can get an @ubuntu-be.org forward ;) fév 10 22:42:48 okay :) fév 10 22:42:50 as no objection, the applications are approved! fév 10 22:42:56 to that address if you want fév 10 22:43:27 we continue with topic # 3. update wiki and web-site fév 10 22:43:28 if i can get an ubuntu-be.org forward it's okay fév 10 22:43:44 wiki: ... fév 10 22:44:14 ramtar: let's discuss after the meeting (or another day if you don't have time today) fév 10 22:44:31 JanC: No problem :) fév 10 22:44:34 i added in our home page/material a link “where to buy a laptop without MS Windows “ to an outdated page ... which needs an update fév 10 22:45:19 if you have ideas, please fill the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OsLessLaptopShops fév 10 22:45:20 Only Belgian sites? fév 10 22:45:31 I bought a laptop without windows :) fév 10 22:45:32 I still believe an organised update of the wiki should be planned.. fév 10 22:45:40 there is juste one week fév 10 22:46:14 woutervddn: You mean like a "codesprint" but with wiki markup as code :D fév 10 22:46:31 mongolito404: exactly ;) fév 10 22:47:11 jes :p fév 10 22:47:13 *yes fév 10 22:47:25 I could help for the french part of the site fév 10 22:47:26 maybe somebody wants to host a wiki/site-cleanup-sprint? ;) fév 10 22:47:28 No need to physically gather, but it may be nice to coordinates a "large-scale" action. fév 10 22:47:34 just one or two evenings of coördinated updating would do miracles fév 10 22:48:22 ramtar: To participae to the site, request membership to the http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-webeditor team on launchpad. fév 10 22:48:40 maybe makign a todo list beforehand might be useful too fév 10 22:48:52 mongolito404: about the technology it's a drupal + wiki? fév 10 22:49:10 the site is drupal, the wiki is the main ubuntu wiki fév 10 22:49:12 @ramtar: the wiki is a general ubuntu.com wiki page fév 10 22:49:23 The first TODO is to drop all outdated and innacurate information. From there we can see what's missing. fév 10 22:49:23 Going to bed everyone, Bye! fév 10 22:49:29 bye ;) fév 10 22:49:32 gn o/ fév 10 22:49:36 :) fév 10 22:49:46 * jimbauwens est parti (Quit: Goodnight!) fév 10 22:49:48 slaapwel ☺ fév 10 22:49:51 bye jimbauwens fév 10 22:49:57 ramtar: The wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam, the website at ubuntu-be.org uses Drupal. fév 10 22:51:00 (sadly there is no Drupal module to allow both to share a common markup syntax :() fév 10 22:51:43 about the website and the social plugin, apperantly that plugin does support the json feed from facebook.. fév 10 22:52:06 I you have some question about Drupal I go to the Drupal User Group this Friday fév 10 22:53:03 to close the wiki update issue : who will start a to do list or next step ? fév 10 22:53:26 Thanks for the invitation, but I work full-time as a Drupal developer :D fév 10 22:53:58 mongolito404: Ok good think's to know for me :) fév 10 22:54:04 I propose that someone does it who has added a lot of content to the wiki before.. fév 10 22:55:00 The first item on the TODO list is actually the TODO list itslef: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TODO, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/346975 fév 10 22:55:27 I'd like to help with the update itself but I'd like to see someone else proposing to update the ToDo fév 10 22:56:32 I can be a wiki-gnome (see http://ur1.ca/375g4) so don't mind about the markup :D fév 10 22:56:34 @mongolito404: the todo list would be a great way to mark the things that are done and the things that need to be done.. (during the massive update) fév 10 22:57:07 woutervddn: That's what issue tracking like LP Bug are made for fév 10 22:57:44 do you propose making a seperate bug for everything that's in the todo list? fév 10 22:58:20 woutervddn: Every "single package" or "task" yes (but drop the old ones) fév 10 22:59:37 woutervddn: We can schedule a screening of the TODO list for an evening next week fév 10 22:59:48 okay.. fév 10 22:59:59 (but not friday eve please..) fév 10 23:01:01 to start with something, let's review the home page BelgianTeam home page, points 1 to 11 ? fév 10 23:01:05 are there any others willing to help with the update of the todo list? fév 10 23:01:12 Wednesday the 16th @20h ? fév 10 23:01:38 ok for me.. fév 10 23:01:57 ok for me fév 10 23:02:05 oups, not for me (I should have check my Agenda) fév 10 23:02:21 again ! fév 10 23:02:34 ☺ fév 10 23:02:39 lol other date? :p fév 10 23:03:06 Let me rephrase it: Tuesday the 15th @20 fév 10 23:03:16 ok fév 10 23:04:02 not for me (linux course !) fév 10 23:04:33 or we can do two evenings? :p fév 10 23:04:44 but you can work without me ! fév 10 23:04:58 so tuesday it is? fév 10 23:05:38 I suggest woutervddn and I (and anybody else interested) start on Tuesday and eport on the next meeting. fév 10 23:05:52 ok fév 10 23:05:59 for me : ok fév 10 23:06:25 for the to do list I can't help a lot but for the next step like i say I can help :) fév 10 23:06:29 right, maybe announce on the ML fév 10 23:07:08 ^good point fév 10 23:07:34 now ok for the wiki ! to continue with the web-site, i've 2 points ... fév 10 23:08:26 we are now working (thanks mongolito404) at a contact-form to be included in the web-site, as a way to contact ubuntu-be (not for technical support) , more later fév 10 23:08:47 or comment mongolito404 ? fév 10 23:09:14 The form is at http://ubuntu-be.org/en/contact and nees NL et DE translatiosn and review/correction in EN and FR fév 10 23:10:17 ^if i remind it tomorrow I'll look in to it ;-) fév 10 23:10:22 is there a link for the translations ? fév 10 23:10:50 the common link for translations work with the form fév 10 23:10:54 No linkf for translations has the texte is not translatable through a separated page. fév 10 23:11:12 I mean no link to edit the translations. fév 10 23:11:38 The form is spam-protected using text analysis, captcha (when the analysis triggers it) and throttling. fév 10 23:11:41 the fr texte looks like okay in general just one or two little mistakes fév 10 23:12:02 ramtar: Send me your correction (pierre@buyle.org) fév 10 23:12:45 throttling => 3 contact form submission/hour fév 10 23:13:14 ? fév 10 23:13:18 per IP address? fév 10 23:13:25 JanC: yes fév 10 23:13:57 jean7491: What's the second point about the website ? fév 10 23:14:08 second point : last week we pointed out that we need a page promoting our actions/events. the aim is to show what we do, hoping that new volunteers will join. are there new proposals? fév 10 23:15:05 I'm working on a volunteer thing but I didn't had the time to finish it yet.. fév 10 23:15:48 ok, we see it later fév 10 23:16:11 other comment about the web-site ? fév 10 23:16:17 I promote Ubuntu event on http://www.agendadulibre.be fév 10 23:16:30 thx fév 10 23:16:34 ramtar: that's a good example fév 10 23:16:55 is there someone like agendadulibre in dutch? fév 10 23:16:55 yes.. I received this link from a friend http://drupal.org/project/activitystream_facebook fév 10 23:17:35 @ramtar not that I know off fév 10 23:17:40 ramtar: If supported on http://www.agendadulibre.be, you can import our events from http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/calendar/ical fév 10 23:17:44 BTW: it would also be nice if we could use http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be to list events & meetings fév 10 23:18:14 Okay I will do it :) fév 10 23:18:19 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg) fév 10 23:18:21 @janC with a script that ports it's directly from the site? fév 10 23:18:32 JanC: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be don't allow import from the website fév 10 23:18:51 mongolito404: and teh other way around? fév 10 23:18:56 I reported a bug for that a long time ago fév 10 23:19:18 if we enter all events on the loco directory and publish those on our site? fév 10 23:19:24 JanC: Definitly do-able without too much pain if they gives us an ical feeds :D fév 10 23:19:26 I can add event manually it's not a problem for me fév 10 23:19:48 mongolito404: they do have an API, not sure about ical fév 10 23:20:15 mongolito404: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/ubuntu-be/ical/ fév 10 23:20:28 there is a link... ;) fév 10 23:20:43 not foor meetings yet, it seems fév 10 23:21:49 http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/ubuntu-be/ical/ fév 10 23:22:21 ah, no link to that, but if they are available both, that would be very useful! fév 10 23:23:37 can someone make a bug about that.. that way we don't forget about it.. fév 10 23:23:51 we have no need anymore to add events to the ubuntu-be site directly, but can use the loco directory instead (once the site is set up to use those calendar feeds) fév 10 23:24:05 woutervddn: Thx for the activitystream_facebook, I'll try to remember looking at its code if I work on something to import Facebook using the same tools that what I used for Identi.ca et Twitter (ie. the excellent Feed module) fév 10 23:24:19 JanC: Exactly fév 10 23:24:29 => https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/716731 fév 10 23:24:54 cool fév 10 23:24:54 that was quick :p fév 10 23:25:20 can we continue with next topic # 4. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ? fév 10 23:26:03 Last small note about the site: I added a nice toolbar for page editors and used a nicer theme for the admin pages (feedback welcome) fév 10 23:26:36 I just noticed it.. looks nice ^^ fév 10 23:27:15 imo it gives a better overview.. fév 10 23:27:17 I like it.. fév 10 23:27:30 item # 1 - possibility of a meeting IRL ? (Meet & Drink?) fév 10 23:27:41 perhaps ubuntu happy hours could be easier to organize,locally, before trying a bigger central meeting? fév 10 23:28:24 jean7491: that's a good idea.. that would be easier.. that way we can take comments to improve the big meeting.. fév 10 23:28:33 +1 fév 10 23:28:44 brugge, hasselt-genk, a'pen ? fév 10 23:28:47 we could do a meeting per event district.. fév 10 23:29:11 it's up to you ! fév 10 23:29:41 if other ideas ? fév 10 23:29:47 but then we do need more people to put their shoulders behind this.. fév 10 23:30:27 idd, but how ? fév 10 23:30:43 we can do "ubuntu hours" after the dipro fairs for example... fév 10 23:30:57 ^+1 fév 10 23:31:21 but it might cause that only dipro helpers are there.. fév 10 23:31:31 but after 8 hours working, i prefer rest ! fév 10 23:31:35 at least somebody is tehre then ;) fév 10 23:31:41 xD true that fév 10 23:32:10 and at the end of dipro, we are usually 2 last volunteers to clean up fév 10 23:33:09 i prefer an ubuntu-hour before, that eventually can be use to finalize dipro, but not limited to dipro fév 10 23:33:54 it is just an idea for the next meeting(s) ! fév 10 23:33:56 you mean like a week in advance or such? fév 10 23:34:16 or even more than a week fév 10 23:34:21 after dipro we always go eating with 5 or 6 six people and we speak about the day fév 10 23:34:49 both have their benefits.. fév 10 23:35:10 not allways possible ! fév 10 23:35:32 we close this issue, are there other questions not in the agenda ? (except next meeting) fév 10 23:36:05 I'm off, good night everyone, thx for the work. fév 10 23:36:10 if no question, ... last topic, next irc meeting ? on thursday 17/02/2011 at 21 h. fév 10 23:36:24 fine for me.. fév 10 23:36:50 * mongolito404 est parti (Remote host closed the connection) fév 10 23:37:14 end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !