mar 10 21:00:54 hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? mar 10 21:01:00 me mar 10 21:01:08 me 2 mar 10 21:01:10 me 3 mar 10 21:01:25 me4 mar 10 21:01:33 i'm mar 10 21:01:43 lolz... mar 10 21:01:49 * JanC (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:02:01 * djim-fey (510bf6e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.11.246.226) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:02:02 hi stefwal Jurgentje massimo21 acraens woutervddn mar 10 21:02:10 hello mar 10 21:02:41 o/ hi all... mar 10 21:02:47 hi clamam mar 10 21:03:13 hi djim-fey ? mar 10 21:03:37 hi all mar 10 21:04:00 i just wanne follow de report of antwerp mar 10 21:04:28 djim-fey ok, JanC ? mar 10 21:04:52 I'm here mar 10 21:05:03 hi JanC mar 10 21:05:24 * vromh (5bb5f07c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.240.124) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:06:06 hi to all, i propose to start with topic #1. past and future events mar 10 21:06:42 first item about hobby and computerdays in antwerp mar 10 21:06:54 report and pictures from the hobby and computerdays in antwerp were added to the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2011-02-26-27 mar 10 21:07:08 imho, this event is a major activity that should be a priority in our calendar mar 10 21:07:18 again thanks to the volunteers! mar 10 21:07:58 fully agree. It was nice that we could share a booth with a computer club. mar 10 21:08:51 it was a separate booth, but on place of course, it is better to cooperate with other clubs mar 10 21:09:24 yeah... maybe it could be a great idea to invite clubs to add theirselves to the support points map? mar 10 21:10:13 last year, we were part of hcc booth, this year, it was a separate booth, easier to organize, but i was not present in antwerp mar 10 21:10:39 * vromh est parti (Quit: Page closed) mar 10 21:11:03 I was on Sunday - it was quite busy, but a pleasant ambiance. We had plenty of volunteers mar 10 21:11:19 about clubs, we are open for cooperation ! support map is another matter, more individuals mar 10 21:11:32 In my experience, we had more people who didn't know ubuntu yet, in comparison to other dipro meetings mar 10 21:11:39 love the report.. mar 10 21:12:40 about volunteers, we need to continue relation with volunteers after the event till the next , but need of local initiative ! mar 10 21:12:57 report is from nero mar 10 21:13:44 hmm.. seems like they sold female shirts (which comes as a surprise for me..) mar 10 21:14:05 but seeing the pictures and the rest of the report i agree that this isn't a small event anymore mar 10 21:14:06 yep, we had a she-geek coming by on sunday :) mar 10 21:14:12 as last part of the event and report, we should add a section about what has to be improve for next year mar 10 21:14:12 (at least for U-be it isnt) mar 10 21:15:06 i'll ask nero to think about it, jurgentje, you have certainly ideas about how better next year ? mar 10 21:15:09 ^good idea.. mar 10 21:15:37 lol! mar 10 21:16:16 jurgentje, djim-fey , think about what could be better and mail with nero for coordinationit mar 10 21:16:25 * padv est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) mar 10 21:16:25 please ! mar 10 21:16:26 Actually I thought it was organized quite well. Nero just noticed they forgot to split the money for the T-shirts (and the number of shirts sold wans't counted) mar 10 21:16:54 ow.. the report said they sold 5 shirts.. mar 10 21:17:04 (I can recalculate if you want?) mar 10 21:17:19 djim-fey your opinion ? mar 10 21:17:42 ah, nice... I guess they were counted prior to the fair :) mar 10 21:17:55 no idea yet, but i would keep thinking mar 10 21:18:02 ok mar 10 21:18:24 * padv (~pascal@178-119-161-82.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:18:33 if no other comment, item #2 dipro fair brugge – 13/03/2011 mar 10 21:18:58 team and material are ok mar 10 21:19:04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2011-03-13 mar 10 21:19:07 * clamam est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer) mar 10 21:19:17 * clamam (~claudio@d51A51C86.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:19:19 JanC : comment ? mar 10 21:19:46 I also have part of the Ghent event box here, so equipment certainly isn't an issue mar 10 21:20:44 ok, we have to see what about this ghent event-box, later ... mar 10 21:20:59 next item #3 dipro fair charleroi – 20/03/2011 mar 10 21:21:09 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Charleroi_2011-03-20 mar 10 21:21:26 if volunteers, please add your names in wiki mar 10 21:21:35 adrien and sylvain are in charge., they aked for cd's, promotion material and t-shirts mar 10 21:21:49 nero is ready to send material and remaining t-shirts, mar 10 21:21:57 JanC : do you agree with the proposition to send banner, tablecloth, metallic stickers, ubuntu-books and t-shirts to charleroi for the 3 events in preparation mar 10 21:22:47 jean7491: well, part of that is still with Nero mar 10 21:23:08 so we need to find a way to get it there mar 10 21:23:15 * padv est parti (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) mar 10 21:23:23 yes, but nero is ready to send it to charleroi via kiala mar 10 21:23:58 maybe he can make a list of what he's sending then? mar 10 21:24:32 I guess I'll still have to send some CDs too, and maybe also stickers or such? mar 10 21:24:34 4 euros - 15 kg, list ok, he is ready, he told me yesterday, mar 10 21:25:02 about stickers, he has 66 , but with to sell some in mechelen mar 10 21:25:30 we have to see about cd's 10.10 and 10.04 to be sent with stickers in 1 packet to sylvain for 2 events mar 10 21:26:09 2 events = dipro + foire du libre in l-l-n mar 10 21:26:41 BTW: the free stickers are also metalic now, but just metalic ink on paper instead of printed on thin metal foil mar 10 21:27:52 we see it in dipro, can you send cd's and free stickers to sylvain, post or kiala ? mar 10 21:27:54 I suppose the 66 are all the thin metal foil ones mar 10 21:28:33 i suppose, don't know what nero received from you mar 10 21:28:35 yes, no problem, will see how many CDs I can send mar 10 21:28:44 he received both mar 10 21:28:54 but I guess teh free ones are all gone... ;) mar 10 21:29:04 * ttl- (~ttl@cl-1283.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:29:11 ? no idea mar 10 21:30:17 i'll send a mail to nero for sending material, with list info to you (janC) mar 10 21:30:53 it's no problem to send extra free ones anyway mar 10 21:31:08 with the cd's mar 10 21:31:23 Nero can keep his for Mechelen and his computer club etc. mar 10 21:31:45 ok mar 10 21:32:39 if no other comment, item #4 dipro fair mechelen – 27/03/2011 mar 10 21:33:05 nero will coordinate the booth , volunteers, please add your names in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Mechelen_2011-03-27 mar 10 21:33:28 thanks jurgentje, you were the first mar 10 21:33:42 :D Actually Nero put me on, he asked me ;) mar 10 21:33:54 ok mar 10 21:34:17 next item #5 – next events mar 10 21:34:29 03/04/2011 dipro genk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Genk_2011-04-03 (coordination: claudio) mar 10 21:34:39 06/04/2011 The Foire du Libre – Louvain-la-Neuve https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/FoireDuLibre-LLN-2011-04-06 (coordination: adrien) mar 10 21:34:51 04/05/2011 rewics Rencontres Wallonnes de l'Internet Citoyen – Charleroi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/Rewics-2011-05-04 (coordination: adrien) mar 10 21:35:11 for Genk, everything is ready; we just need more volunteers mar 10 21:35:23 ok mar 10 21:35:31 am I allready on the list? mar 10 21:36:09 and dipro ghent, 10/04/2011 mar 10 21:36:23 I am now.. :) mar 10 21:36:30 umm... Foire du Libre... what time is that? (it's a Wed) mar 10 21:36:32 woutervddn: i will ad your name to the wiki mar 10 21:37:09 foire du libre : idd wed. +/- 12 - 19 hr. mar 10 21:37:14 done allready :p mar 10 21:37:40 ok mar 10 21:38:04 jurgentje , if interested, contact adrien mar 10 21:38:21 okay... but first I'll contact my wife ;) (see if she can miss the car) mar 10 21:38:35 ok mar 10 21:38:43 hm, about Bruges, did you have something to put on the tables jean7491 ? otherwise we need to buy paper table cloth (I still have some brown one, but probably not enough) mar 10 21:38:49 * mongolito404 (~mongolito@83.101.32.104) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 21:39:03 hi mongolito404 :) mar 10 21:39:14 brugge: i've enough tablecloth mar 10 21:39:29 hi mongolito404 mar 10 21:39:38 other comment about events ? mar 10 21:40:01 hi all, sorry I'm not here for the meeting (I'm just turning on the PC for a few minutes to check email archives) mar 10 21:40:12 ok mar 10 21:41:19 just 1 comment about events : fosdem, as it is a major event in our calendar, it needs a report in the wiki, much more than dipro ! mar 10 21:41:48 don't forget ! mar 10 21:42:02 next topic, promotion mar 10 21:42:15 item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : update by wouter mar 10 21:42:24 they are ordered.. mar 10 21:42:44 and as a matter of fact they are allready being printed (or else they start tomorrow) mar 10 21:43:10 We agreed they'll start printing allready and just ship once the payment was received :) mar 10 21:43:31 as they still have the screen we got a discount.. mar 10 21:44:15 the discount is almost 70 euros.. mar 10 21:44:29 * mongolito404 est parti (Remote host closed the connection) mar 10 21:44:38 that's € 0,70 per shirt? mar 10 21:44:54 more or less mar 10 21:45:12 66,64 to be exact.. miscalculated some euro's apperantly.. mar 10 21:45:20 indeed.. mar 10 21:45:26 and will arrive in brugge mar 10 21:45:33 eh? mar 10 21:45:35 normally they arive with me.. mar 10 21:45:54 good ☺ mar 10 21:46:05 He first assumed they had to go to jan again.. mar 10 21:46:14 woutervddn: you will handle the pre-ordered t-shirts then? mar 10 21:46:21 but I asked them to change the address to my address :) mar 10 21:46:27 yes! mar 10 21:46:35 ok difference with invoice mar 10 21:46:57 I've got the envelopes lying here and once they arrive I'll sent them.. mar 10 21:47:14 then you will delivered the preorders! mar 10 21:47:23 (and prepaid) mar 10 21:48:00 I'm going to mail mark tomorrow so he can sent me the invoice numbers of those who paid allready.. mar 10 21:48:20 (I'm assuming everyone did allready, but you never know) mar 10 21:48:29 idd mar 10 21:48:44 other comment about t-shirts ? mar 10 21:49:22 if it's not off topic mar 10 21:49:23 not at the moment I think.. mar 10 21:49:30 are there any plans for a webshop? mar 10 21:49:44 not yet mar 10 21:50:03 isn't it against the guidelines mar 10 21:50:05 I think we can't start with that until we have the organisation talked out :) mar 10 21:50:26 yeah, right. so no more questions about the t-shirts :) mar 10 21:50:35 massimo21: which guidelines? mar 10 21:51:17 organization and legal matters (=guidelines i suppose) mar 10 21:51:38 that is what i ment mar 10 21:52:12 next item #2 promotion material for fairs/events - flyers 2011 mar 10 21:52:19 - nothing new, please look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011 mar 10 21:52:28 comment ? mar 10 21:52:49 not from me mar 10 21:53:24 I used Massimiliano V2 as basis for a rollout... just my "poging" to align flyer and rollout mar 10 21:53:41 but maybe that's for the next item mar 10 21:53:55 is there a decision on what flyers we're going to print? mar 10 21:54:22 or is it up to the local dipro team to choose? mar 10 21:54:39 there will be a poll i supose mar 10 21:55:24 Maybe we should set a timeframe? mar 10 21:55:55 no decision yet, but we could ! if no other proposal, a poll end of march ? mar 10 21:56:25 poll end of march... poll deadline april 10? (just a random date) mar 10 21:56:33 i am reading now that janb asks me to try whit gray background mar 10 21:56:59 so i will do it when i have some spare time mar 10 21:58:11 perhaps start a poll 24/03 (meeting in 2 weeks), duration : is 1 week enough ? mar 10 21:58:45 I think so. But we announce the poll well in advance. Maybe also have the poll on the front page of Ubuntu-be? mar 10 21:58:50 gray background or gray paper? (the latter might be cheaper, if normal printing ink can be used mar 10 21:59:19 only work for light grey though mar 10 21:59:22 if i use a grey backgrund i am supposed to use orange letters mar 10 22:00:01 I think that grey print would be better (then you can have a degradé and white dots) mar 10 22:00:07 yeah, might be difficult to get proper orange on grey mar 10 22:00:27 so i think i will let is like it is mar 10 22:01:01 about the poll: I think ubuntu-be.org would be better than wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam mar 10 22:01:06 you can still print the grey, just that grey paper doesn't work so well to print bright orange on mar 10 22:01:31 indeed, you really narrow down your color range if you don't use white papper mar 10 22:01:42 JanC : i propose 2 versions on 1 idea, 1 for printing via internet site, another inkt-friendly for eventual home-printing (don't know if needed in dutch? mar 10 22:02:19 as we have enough printed flyers mar 10 22:02:21 eeuh.. the greys and orange colors are fixed in the branding guidelines.. mar 10 22:02:31 I think we need Dutch and French versions... we want Ubuntu to be "entry level" and not geeky mar 10 22:02:44 English makes it more technical mar 10 22:02:54 jurgentje: yes, which is why printing the orange on grey paper is difficult mar 10 22:03:07 who will translete it to french? mar 10 22:03:11 it's possible with thick ink, but that's mroe expensive ;) mar 10 22:03:13 I agree Jan, I'm not in favor of using grey paper mar 10 22:03:58 for printing via internet, no difference in number of colors ! mar 10 22:04:08 well, I like using non-plain paper, but it's not practical within the contstraints... ;) mar 10 22:04:19 I think we've got to try grey first.. you never know what it gives.. mar 10 22:04:37 but for printing it yourself it can become a problem.. mar 10 22:04:44 if you want special paper... you can use white ink ;) (or metallic paper) :D mar 10 22:05:00 for printing at home, you'll also need a white edge on your flyers mar 10 22:05:26 for printing elsewhere in small numbers too mar 10 22:05:42 yeah, probably mar 10 22:05:49 i prefer the white and light desing above te some wat darker grey mar 10 22:06:40 but then again... that's what polls are good for ;) mar 10 22:07:10 what am i supposed to do then? mar 10 22:07:23 make it with grey background or not? mar 10 22:07:28 btw, in 2009, we received 5000 flyers (at the end in june (2 years) mar 10 22:07:42 make 2 png-files? (if you have the time) mar 10 22:08:01 they will use a colour laser printer instead of an offset press unless you need a lot of copies (remember it was 66 € for the 2 colours of the shirt and the flyer is 4 colours of ink, and offset plates are more expensive than what they use for screen printing) mar 10 22:09:34 makes sense. I'd add the small extra cost of cutting the borders though... even if it's lasercopy mar 10 22:09:36 our 2009 flyers: 5000 for 69 euros + 21% tax mar 10 22:10:33 jurgentje: yes, they will print on slightly larger paper & cut the borders if you want the colours to bleed off the flyer mar 10 22:11:10 of course one solution for that is to accomodate printer margins in the design, that way everybody can print it... mar 10 22:11:14 I think this really adds to the look of the flyer. It finishes it off. All designs on the page look better mar 10 22:11:44 jurgentje that depends on the design.. mar 10 22:12:13 yep... but come on... bordered design tend to be more static mar 10 22:12:32 nobody needs to print it as we have enough stocks mar 10 22:12:41 it's also more difficult to print at home mar 10 22:12:44 all the existing designs also look good with a small border, but just look great to the border mar 10 22:12:51 of course, we can have more than one design mar 10 22:12:59 yep, but they are okay with a border too... mar 10 22:13:15 and people can always print & cut at a photocopy shop mar 10 22:14:02 if the design is done cleverly so that not too much border needs to be cut... mar 10 22:14:02 idd. (also quite a few people actually have a paper cutter at home or office... ) mar 10 22:14:25 but some have mar 10 22:14:28 jurgentje: for small numbers those are useable too, yes mar 10 22:15:01 and for large numbers you probably don't want to use your own printer for cost reasons mar 10 22:15:03 home printing is small numbers... laser copy center often has cutting capacities mar 10 22:15:09 :) mar 10 22:15:19 with just a small fee to pay mar 10 22:15:29 great minds think alike ;) (maybe crippled brains too, won't elaborate on that) mar 10 22:15:33 cutting is sometimes free even mar 10 22:15:38 i don't understand why you are insisting about home-printing: with 5000 flyers in stock, it is not an issue (at least in dutch) mar 10 22:16:04 jean7491: home printing can still be useful if you need some flyers on short notice mar 10 22:16:35 or when it's cheaper than mailing them or whatever mar 10 22:17:04 but we have flyers in evry event-box, and more mar 10 22:17:12 Yeah, I can imagine smaller events (talking for a class) ... mar 10 22:17:28 if I need some flyers quickly I'll still go to a print shop.. my inkjet printer takes 10 minutes for 1 sheet of photo's.. :p mar 10 22:18:01 but I think these few exceptions aren't weighing enough to pose limits on the design mar 10 22:18:52 and no one wants to pay to work for free mar 10 22:18:54 if we have to print on a laser copier, tyhe restrictions are almost the same anyway mar 10 22:19:21 yep, but copy shop has cutting possibilities mar 10 22:19:35 (I prefer little smaller than A5 but cut, than A5 with borders) mar 10 22:19:37 but if you have a few days, you ask and it is possible to find a solution, i agree with jurgentje, it is not the priority for the flyer design, but we can make a variant mar 10 22:20:06 BTW: we can also change the size etc. mar 10 22:20:20 say, cut 3 flyers from an A4 or whatever mar 10 22:20:31 indeed.. mar 10 22:20:54 making a custom 'scraper' style flyer shouldn't be that much work.. mar 10 22:21:04 yep, or actually make a more extensive fold-flyer mar 10 22:22:07 perhaps have a look at flyer.be to have ideas, and we speak about it next meeting ? mar 10 22:22:09 bottom line: we're going to have a poll with the flyers that exist on that moment... mar 10 22:22:31 right? mar 10 22:22:54 on march 24? mar 10 22:23:50 as i propose the poll starting on 24 or 25/03, we can improve and have 2 or 3 designs mar 10 22:24:12 indeed.. mar 10 22:24:30 we speak about last details next week ? mar 10 22:24:41 17/03? mar 10 22:24:45 ok mar 10 22:24:48 ok mar 10 22:24:59 Item #3 promotion material for fairs/events - rollups 2011 mar 10 22:25:13 new proposals are in the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011 please add your comments/preferences in the wiki … mar 10 22:25:28 do we need rollups in english? Dutch? French? your comments ? mar 10 22:25:53 I stick with: local language mar 10 22:26:15 so no English (I made it because the proposal was in the footer) mar 10 22:26:27 I'd go for english roll ups.. mar 10 22:27:00 a roll up is quite an expensive thing.. we should be able to use them everywhere regardless of the language.. mar 10 22:27:02 but that's just me. Reason: we want to promote Ubuntu as "easy". A foreign language (even English) is more difficult mar 10 22:27:10 english: too geeky mar 10 22:27:14 (else we can't even use it at fosdem fi.. mar 10 22:27:16 aren't we going to make one for every event box? mar 10 22:28:45 Rollups don't need a lot of text on them anyway mar 10 22:28:52 imho, 1 to 3, but not for every event-box, mar 10 22:29:07 I have to disagree on the fact that english is to geeky.. mar 10 22:29:15 and I agree with jan and jean.. mar 10 22:29:32 2 ideas: logo or "message" ? mar 10 22:29:35 woutervddn: you can't imagine how many people lack the knowledge mar 10 22:29:37 what's the price of 1? mar 10 22:30:06 likely between 60 and 100 euros? mar 10 22:30:11 stefwal, even our goverment lets us fill in our taxes at a website called taxonweb.. mar 10 22:30:26 prices might differ largely, also depending on quality ("sturdiness") mar 10 22:30:41 imo the rollup should be about the name in the first place and an atractive image.. mar 10 22:30:51 woutervddn: the text on that site is in Dutch though ☺ mar 10 22:31:06 JanC: I wouldn't go for the more expensive one mar 10 22:31:11 woutervddn: +1 on that mar 10 22:31:12 there shouldn't be much text on it.. and the text that is on it should talk about anything technical.. mar 10 22:31:21 +1 for most sturdy and quality one mar 10 22:31:51 sturdy and quality if rollup is for several years mar 10 22:32:01 well, maybe we don't need the most expensive ones, but if they break after 3 times use it's also useless ;) mar 10 22:32:25 depends on who is using it mar 10 22:32:31 without a doubt they have to be fairly solid, but I don't think someone of us is going to abuse it -_-' mar 10 22:32:51 ... I'm quite clumsy ;) mar 10 22:33:08 also, those are made for companies, they might use the expensive ones every day for a period of several years.. mar 10 22:33:09 they always get abused in some way accidentally sooner or later mar 10 22:33:09 jurgentje: I'm happy I haven't been to a fair yet mar 10 22:33:50 janc I suppose so.. mar 10 22:33:51 the roll up would become a roll out mar 10 22:33:53 hehe... we were discussing if we wanted text on the rollups mar 10 22:33:59 lol mar 10 22:34:16 the rollup should be about the logo mar 10 22:34:19 I'd say text: yes but it should only state a minimum of it.. mar 10 22:34:27 I would put "Ubuntu" & "Ubuntu-be.org" on them mar 10 22:34:38 and what's the difference? mar 10 22:34:40 and the logo mar 10 22:34:41 and it should express feelings instead of function.. mar 10 22:34:52 and maybe a picture mar 10 22:34:53 imho logo + pictograms should be better mar 10 22:34:55 totally agree mar 10 22:34:56 I mean... the rollout should make clear what ubuntu-be.org is... mar 10 22:35:00 +1 for jean.. mar 10 22:35:14 if you put it on the rollout mar 10 22:35:28 people remember what the see, not what they read mar 10 22:35:29 I'm in favor of icons and ubuntu branding too mar 10 22:35:34 another thing is to find the right pictograms ! mar 10 22:35:58 the brands pages has tons of icons mar 10 22:36:06 why not using the pictograms that massimo21 used on the flyers mar 10 22:36:13 spreadubuntu also has some icons.. mar 10 22:36:21 good point.. mar 10 22:36:23 I took those ones on design 6 mar 10 22:36:32 the ones of Massimo... to be unifor mar 10 22:36:33 m mar 10 22:36:56 pictograms should reflect a message, not only because it is nice mar 10 22:37:10 for an example of ubuntu banners there are two on the ubuntu brand introduction pdf at page 23 mar 10 22:37:13 indeed. I agree on that. mar 10 22:37:35 the icons on the rollup are explained on the flyers - they complement :) mar 10 22:37:45 (ironically 1 of those is about a UDS at la hulpe in belgium -_-' mar 10 22:37:59 do you have an url to the pdf? mar 10 22:38:47 http://design.canonical.com/brand/1.%20Ubuntu%20brand%20introduction.pdf mar 10 22:39:36 i propose to look for designs with logo + pictograms or icons (no text) + ubuntu-be.org during the week, and see the result next week ? mar 10 22:39:48 ok.. mar 10 22:39:57 so we remove the ones with text from the site? mar 10 22:40:13 I guess we can keep those.. mar 10 22:40:20 just try to add new ones without text.. mar 10 22:40:34 let the community have a say on this as well.. mar 10 22:40:59 ok, we see next week for the rollups mar 10 22:41:18 Item #4 promotion material for fairs/events - other goodies (mugs, bags, pens, ... ) mar 10 22:41:18 a few propositions are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011 mar 10 22:41:30 please feel free to comment the proposals and to add designs mar 10 22:41:53 you could put the software icons in the orange circles in stead of the text mar 10 22:41:55 i have to go mar 10 22:42:01 good night mar 10 22:42:06 good night massimo21 mar 10 22:42:08 good night massimo o/ mar 10 22:42:10 warddr is not present as initiator, i propose we skip the item mar 10 22:42:17 by massimo mar 10 22:42:33 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.182.59) a quitté #ubuntu-be mar 10 22:42:36 by massimo mar 10 22:42:43 we continue with topic # 3. update wiki and web-site mar 10 22:42:56 wiki: update by wouter? mar 10 22:43:20 jurgen, jean and I took a sprint yesterday. mar 10 22:43:49 I posted a report on the ML mar 10 22:44:01 generally I can say all pages are updated with a few exeptions. mar 10 22:44:05 (and made 207 notes for this meeting) ;) mar 10 22:44:14 * woutervddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be ("Leaving") mar 10 22:44:23 * woutervddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 10 22:44:28 sorry.. I dropped out.. :s mar 10 22:44:38 indeed.. way to many notes :p mar 10 22:44:57 some pages couldn't be updated because there has to be desicions made first.. mar 10 22:45:27 also we need to find a way to let the website and the wiki work together.. mar 10 22:45:36 some stuff on the wiki should go on the site.. mar 10 22:45:47 like those oslesslaptopshops.. mar 10 22:46:01 it's a great idea but on the wiki nobody will think about looking for it. mar 10 22:46:04 Oh, BTW: next Tuesday is the next LoCo Council meeting and I put the question for buying promo equipment from Canonical on the agenda mar 10 22:46:30 + putting it on the website might be a jump to add those companies to the commercial links section.. mar 10 22:46:43 janc: nice to hear that ^^ mar 10 22:47:00 if anybody else wants to be around for that meeting... mar 10 22:47:34 sorry, i must go now, bye and good night mar 10 22:47:35 JanC, is it open for all? (where? what time?) mar 10 22:47:38 bye clamam mar 10 22:47:40 I've got exams then so I'll have to pass.. mar 10 22:47:40 what's the time of the meeting ? mar 10 22:47:44 bye clamam.. mar 10 22:47:52 * clamam (~claudio@d51A51C86.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be mar 10 22:47:53 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda mar 10 22:47:54 bye clamam mar 10 22:48:00 and it's open for all mar 10 22:48:24 21h UTC in #ubuntu-meeting mar 10 22:48:37 21 UTC ... that's 22u Brussels? mar 10 22:49:29 yes mar 10 22:49:43 there is not much on the agenda, so shouldn't take too long mar 10 22:49:57 possibly I'll be there... can't promise. mar 10 22:50:07 it is on my agenda, hopefully i will be there ! mar 10 22:51:00 i've got to go 2, got night mar 10 22:51:07 have to go, good night mar 10 22:51:14 bye mar 10 22:51:17 wouter, writing in wiki is easy, not in the website , for cpmmon people like me mar 10 22:51:35 bye acraens and stefwal mar 10 22:51:40 indeed.. but that's just because the website isn't open to normal people.. mar 10 22:51:50 * acraens est parti (Quit: Page closed) mar 10 22:51:59 it has a similar editor as the wiki so that isn't the problem. mar 10 22:52:05 \part #ubuntu-be cya mar 10 22:52:15 I think the major problem is to keep our site save for flaws etc... mar 10 22:52:32 * stefwal (~stefaan@94-226-239-19.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be ("cya") mar 10 22:52:33 we also found a double on the wiki pages apperantly we have 2 pages for promotion material.. @ jean7491: which one should we keep? I'll merge them later on.. mar 10 22:52:37 I think some restrictions on who/what is added is appropriate on the site mar 10 22:52:47 janC: I agree.. mar 10 22:52:58 but it should be clear where to find what... mar 10 22:52:59 but as jurgen said it "the wiki should be about knowledge" mar 10 22:53:15 and avoid having information that is on both... quickly becomes maintenance hell mar 10 22:54:08 wiki is also used for organizing events/activities mar 10 22:54:48 it just seemed like there were quite a few pages that belong on the site instead of the wiki.. mar 10 22:54:50 okay... and the website should contain the "information" that has a more static feel mar 10 22:55:07 maybe give some examples... mar 10 22:55:08 yet another remark was that we should stimulate to upload content to flickr using the ubuntube tag.. mar 10 22:55:36 @ wouter : imho promotion is a section, with at least 2 sub-sections, material and promotional activities ... mar 10 22:56:29 material sould be about material, flyers, ... + files presentations and other things mar 10 22:57:09 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Promotion is one mar 10 22:57:17 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial is second mar 10 22:57:23 are very close in content mar 10 22:58:20 should be the same page. Content has to be merged. Don't you agree? mar 10 22:58:23 could be merge in BelgianTeam/Promotion/Material mar 10 22:58:53 or BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial mar 10 22:59:18 I prefer the last one (as it already exists... only creates one stale link) mar 10 22:59:43 I don't really care where it goes, but 2 pages looks like asking for troubles :) mar 10 22:59:43 and a link to spreadubuntu could be added mar 10 22:59:51 good point jean.. mar 10 23:00:03