mar 24 21:00:59 hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? mar 24 21:01:32 I am.. mar 24 21:01:53 Me mar 24 21:02:19 me mar 24 21:02:33 * woutervddn hopes there are more :p mar 24 21:02:56 hi woutervddn jimbauwens massimo21 , ... mar 24 21:03:34 JanC ? mar 24 21:03:53 hello jean7491 , I have revise the inventory and i send you an email ;) mar 24 21:04:06 ok mar 24 21:04:30 and hi sylvaintechnic ! mar 24 21:05:09 o/ mar 24 21:05:40 hi JanC mar 24 21:05:41 * jurgentje (~jurgen@94-227-10-80.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 24 21:06:14 jurgentje, I was wondering if you forgot :p mar 24 21:06:28 hi Jurgentje mar 24 21:08:09 i propose we start with topic #1. past and future events mar 24 21:08:21 item #1 dipro fair charleroi – 20/03/2011 mar 24 21:08:30 report and pictures are available in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Charleroi_2011-03-20 mar 24 21:08:46 sylvaintechnic do you have comment ? mar 24 21:09:20 Hi mar 24 21:09:27 nah, I'm just a little late mar 24 21:09:32 hi Jurgentje mar 24 21:09:37 hi jean mar 24 21:09:38 yes, it was the last Dipro at Charleroi mar 24 21:10:31 not enough seller mar 24 21:10:33 not enough visitors mar 24 21:10:45 hmm.. that's a shame.. mar 24 21:11:37 it's a problem in Flanders too... mar 24 21:12:04 looking at the pictures, it is like brugge dipro, we received 4 tables to complete the hall, not enough booths mar 24 21:12:34 right mar 24 21:12:51 best solution is to look for alternatives, when possible mar 24 21:13:15 Fortunately, we will make other booth mar 24 21:13:24 and i'm happy with the next in lln and rewics mar 24 21:13:48 yes, 2 big events mar 24 21:14:44 we can not be everywhere, but perhaps you will find other opportunities in brussels, namur or elsewhere ! mar 24 21:15:22 we continue with item #2 dipro fair mechelen – 27/03/2011 mar 24 21:15:29 only 3 volunteers appear in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Mechelen_2011-03-27 mar 24 21:15:36 additional volunteers are welcome ! mar 24 21:15:50 and perhaps nero has other contacts ? mar 24 21:16:53 if no comment, item #3 dipro fair genk – 03/04/2011 mar 24 21:17:08 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Genk_2011-04-03 (coordination: claudio) mar 24 21:17:19 afaik is ok mar 24 21:17:35 just a few minor issues mar 24 21:17:52 but will be ok mar 24 21:17:58 if you are the Dipro during the holidays, I might be coming mar 24 21:18:05 massimo21, is there anything else I can do? mar 24 21:18:34 no it's beacouse claudio will be leaving earlier mar 24 21:18:50 all the stuff will not be easy to fit in my car mar 24 21:19:56 * EmilyPlays (4e15350b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.21.53.11) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 24 21:20:20 can't help with that I'm afraid :) mar 24 21:20:29 Leven in de brouwerij? mar 24 21:20:55 my wife will come with the other car and maybe william can help too mar 24 21:20:55 emilyplays, ja wekelijkse U-be vergadering.. (wel in het engels..) mar 24 21:21:22 I can help with loading in :) mar 24 21:21:30 off course mar 24 21:22:08 ow, no problem mar 24 21:22:17 Did i miss something? mar 24 21:22:51 EmilyPlays : what is your location ? mar 24 21:23:01 Ghent mar 24 21:23:09 I'm new to the belgiu mar 24 21:23:25 *belgian loco team btw mar 24 21:23:33 aha, maybe we can use you next month then... ;) mar 24 21:23:42 Welcome then! mar 24 21:23:54 welcome, next event in ghent : 10/04/2011 Dipro fair Ghent https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-04-10 (coordination -) mar 24 21:24:37 Thanks for letting me know :) mar 24 21:25:21 EmilyPlays to have an idea about the Dipro computer fairs, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs and in the various locations mar 24 21:25:41 But i'm in Italy @ that moment :( mar 24 21:25:57 lucky you mar 24 21:26:21 lol mar 24 21:26:40 ok, next time, antwerp on 8/05/2011 ? we continue with item #4 other events mar 24 21:26:44 depends on what he has to do there... ☺ mar 24 21:27:00 06/04/2011 The Foire du Libre – Louvain-la-Neuve https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/FoireDuLibre-LLN-2011-04-06 (coordination: adrien) mar 24 21:27:03 Work, work and work mar 24 21:27:17 as i said 10/04/2011 Dipro fair Ghent https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-04-10 (coordination -) mar 24 21:27:39 and 04/05/2011 rewics Rencontres Wallonnes de l'Internet Citoyen – Charleroi https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/Rewics-2011-05-04 (coordination: adrien) mar 24 21:27:49 I guess Kenneth will coordinate in Ghent mar 24 21:27:57 btw mar 24 21:28:28 I wanna do something in the community besides translating and answering mar 24 21:28:29 i already asked kenneth, no answer yet mar 24 21:28:52 Anyone with a lot of patience who wants to learn me the basics of packaging mar 24 21:28:59 and coding so i can fix bugs mar 24 21:30:05 EmilyPlays: can you ask about that after the IRC meeting? mar 24 21:30:33 (or at any other moment that fits you) mar 24 21:31:20 I'll point you at some info then ☺ mar 24 21:31:35 * EmilyPlays_ (4e15350b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.21.53.11) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 24 21:32:04 EmilyPlays_: did you see my answer? mar 24 21:32:10 No mar 24 21:32:16 EmilyPlays: can you ask about that after the IRC meeting? mar 24 21:32:17 (or at any other moment that fits you) mar 24 21:32:17 I'll point you at some info then ☺ mar 24 21:32:23 firefox crashed because of OMgUbuntu mar 24 21:32:30 so let's go on with the meeting now ☺ mar 24 21:32:30 thx mar 24 21:33:18 if no comment about events ... mar 24 21:33:24 * EmilyPlays est parti (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) mar 24 21:33:25 next topic # 2. Promotion mar 24 21:33:38 item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : wouter ? mar 24 21:33:58 apart from the fact that they are 200% awesome.. mar 24 21:34:23 I've packaged those who ordered 1 shirt yesterday and those are on the mail.. mar 24 21:34:39 the other ones I'll do tomorrow because they don't fit the envelopes.. mar 24 21:34:53 I'll also send an email to everyone tomorrow :) mar 24 21:35:36 and I am getting 4 or 5 messages from people who asked to buy some now.. mar 24 21:35:47 so I guess I'll put the page up again? mar 24 21:36:18 ok, with the change as not pre-order mar 24 21:36:34 indeed.. mar 24 21:37:19 btw.. it does seem like they put the text up just a bit higher (as we asked).. but I don't have a shirt from the first buy so I can't verify.. mar 24 21:37:59 * djim_fey (~103385C46@ip-81-11-246-166.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be mar 24 21:38:28 ok, anything else for now ? mar 24 21:38:55 not that I know of.. mar 24 21:39:29 item #2 promotion material for fairs/events - flyers 2011 mar 24 21:39:46 nothing new, I propose to choose between the 2 versions Wouter V1 revisited version and Massimiliano V2 as it is mar 24 21:39:53 please look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011 mar 24 21:40:09 as there is no other proposal, i propose to start a poll via the web-site, during 1 week mar 24 21:40:10 Massimiliano... I just updated my SVG poster with all your icons in the Ubuntu-style mar 24 21:40:13 (circles) mar 24 21:40:22 now going to update the PNG's mar 24 21:40:25 great jurgentje :) mar 24 21:40:51 it is about rollups or flyers ? mar 24 21:41:00 the icons appear on both of them mar 24 21:41:21 but massimo21 made the flyers, and I inspired/synced the two mar 24 21:42:29 imho i had difficulty to use canonical icons in the flyer, as they are less easy to understand mar 24 21:42:58 are ther also canonical icons? mar 24 21:43:02 there mar 24 21:43:04 yep, I was troubled with that too... but I put the icons of Massimiliano into circles mar 24 21:43:07 and they kinda worked out mar 24 21:43:14 Well, kinda strange formulation, in the introduction on the 3rd poster mar 24 21:43:18 they have some "canonical" look mar 24 21:44:05 ok, but let's first see the flyer mar 24 21:45:16 do you need time for another proposal (flyer) ? mar 24 21:46:24 I have one concern about bouth the flyer and the roll up.. mar 24 21:46:36 the orange doesn't seem to be "ubuntu" orange.. is that correct? mar 24 21:46:56 It has potential mar 24 21:47:07 * sylvaintechnic est parti (Remote host closed the connection) mar 24 21:47:13 tough it needs a touch up mar 24 21:47:47 give some ideas mar 24 21:47:52 :-) mar 24 21:48:28 emilyplays, feel free to digg in them.. mar 24 21:48:53 EmilyPlays_, the original inkscape file is online, you can download it and do what you want with it :) mar 24 21:49:11 Reconstruct; Ubuntu is een besturingssysteem voor iedereen en dat op elke computer kan geinstaleerd worden. mar 24 21:50:20 feel free to make changes and post them mar 24 21:52:08 Ubuntu is een kosteloos besturingssysteem voor iedereen, dat op elke computer kan worden geinstaleerd. mar 24 21:52:14 sounds better to me mar 24 21:53:00 gratis ipv kosteloos? mar 24 21:53:18 that is my problem, Dutch isn't my mother language mar 24 21:53:22 :-( mar 24 21:53:24 Well mar 24 21:53:39 Don't be sad mar 24 21:53:58 We are a team, so other people ca touch it up for you mar 24 21:54:07 :-D mar 24 21:54:14 lol.. mar 24 21:54:21 also, should be "geïnstalleerd" mar 24 21:54:35 ofcourse mar 24 21:54:54 looked over that one mar 24 21:55:15 I keep thinking we shouldn't have seperate banners for each language.. mar 24 21:56:07 maybe te banner in english and the flyers localized mar 24 21:56:29 who will do the translation in french? mar 24 21:56:29 flyers need to be localized, defenitely mar 24 21:57:04 Well, i'll send all my points of critique later mar 24 21:57:21 translation in french is not a problem mar 24 21:57:36 you can putt them on the propsal page mar 24 21:57:43 the critique points mar 24 21:57:52 iw ill mar 24 21:58:04 hehe... or you can submit a proposal of your own :) mar 24 21:58:13 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011 mar 24 21:58:25 a total new design would be nice.. difference is a good thing! mar 24 21:58:35 mmm... watch out mar 24 21:58:42 we're fed up at looking to this design mar 24 21:58:52 Well mar 24 21:58:54 because we've been scrutinizing it for over a month now mar 24 21:59:03 but it's new for the audience mar 24 21:59:03 when i get my new pc i'll do my absolute best mar 24 21:59:49 jurgentje: did you allready pst the svg? i can't find it mar 24 21:59:53 well... next week we're going to open the poll, right? mar 24 22:00:02 same name, I overwrote the previous one mar 24 22:00:22 jurgen.. can you put _revision after it next time mar 24 22:00:23 ^^ How long should we put it up? mar 24 22:00:55 ok, we wait another week for other proposals or improvement, and hopely decide for a poll next week mar 24 22:01:01 woutervddn, sorry, didn't think this "minor revision" was worth polluting the wiki mar 24 22:01:02 kk mar 24 22:01:02 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Proposal-rollup-2-jurgen.svg mar 24 22:01:42 ok then :) I don't know how big it was.. mar 24 22:02:11 we continue with item #3 promotion material for fairs/events - rollups that already started mar 24 22:02:51 again, we wait for new ideas/designs mar 24 22:02:56 gtg, cya all mar 24 22:03:00 :) mar 24 22:03:01 bye mar 24 22:03:03 Bye mar 24 22:03:07 * jimbauwens (~jim@d5152CFF8.static.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be ("Leaving") mar 24 22:03:26 comment about rollups ?? mar 24 22:03:49 okay... you've got my proposal. I might tweak it a little further (if comments suggest to) but I won't make another new one. mar 24 22:03:53 i like the ones jurgentje made mar 24 22:04:19 but the icons don't make much sense by theyr own mar 24 22:04:24 me 2, but the oranges aren't the same.. (on my screen atleast..) mar 24 22:04:34 no, the icons only make sense if they come back on the flyer mar 24 22:04:42 it's tied in with each other mar 24 22:04:52 woutervddn, I tried the same orange for the two... it makes it boring mar 24 22:05:02 that is the only solution then mar 24 22:05:05 hmm.. ok then.. mar 24 22:05:30 but I don't see the colors right though.. my laptop screen isn't good for viewing.. mar 24 22:05:30 maybe you can find better tones - feel free to look into it, you' ve got source :) mar 24 22:05:44 I might do that :) mar 24 22:06:09 the new circles around the icons seems ok but you changed some mar 24 22:06:46 whatever there will be chosen they have to be the same mar 24 22:06:49 yeah, I did change some... last week there was a complaint that the icons weren't Ubuntu compliant mar 24 22:06:54 so I tried tweaking them... mar 24 22:07:44 the bio-hazard thingie I changed so a lock... seemed more appropriate mar 24 22:08:01 ubuntu isn't biohazardous ;) mar 24 22:08:08 but virusses are mar 24 22:08:12 Good tweak mar 24 22:08:12 :-) mar 24 22:08:26 well... ubuntu isn't a virus, is it? ;) mar 24 22:08:45 no mar 24 22:08:57 ther you have a good point mar 24 22:09:16 btw... your flyer was what inspired me for my rollout.. so kudos to you, Massimo mar 24 22:09:18 other comment about rollups ? mar 24 22:09:24 making U look secure with the lock does provide a 'saver' look.. mar 24 22:10:01 that is true, it is just it took me forever to draw that biohazard sign mar 24 22:10:06 :-( mar 24 22:10:41 really? you drew it? ouch... I have that one in my safety collection :s mar 24 22:10:51 next item #4 promotion material for fairs/events - other goodies (mugs, bags, pens, ... mar 24 22:10:57 but the fact that the lock is alot better mar 24 22:10:57 a few propositions are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011 mar 24 22:11:18 are there comments ? mar 24 22:11:52 is the goodies responsible guy here today? mar 24 22:12:32 there is no responsible guy, just 1 who was launching the idea mar 24 22:12:39 Maybe something with stickers mar 24 22:13:15 but the ideas about goodies have a lot of implications, ... mar 24 22:13:29 Atlest something really heap mar 24 22:13:32 cheap* mar 24 22:13:53 and i am afarid ubuntu-be is not ready to start with selling more mar 24 22:14:04 shouldn't we take the point of goodies off the agenda till after April, when we have a little more sight on where we want to go with Ubuntu-be as organisation? mar 24 22:14:25 +1 on that mar 24 22:14:45 +1 mar 24 22:14:50 Maybe we can work together with Ubuntu nederland to reduce costs? mar 24 22:14:51 collecting suggestions on that wiki page is okay of course mar 24 22:15:16 EmilyPlays_: thats' not the most important problem mar 24 22:15:30 kk mar 24 22:15:33 next topic # 3. update wiki and web-site mar 24 22:15:44 wiki: update ? mar 24 22:15:50 but of course we can always work together with other locoteams mar 24 22:16:44 anything about the wiki ? mar 24 22:17:31 apart from the page on the Ubuntu-be organisation mar 24 22:17:36 I don't think there were big changes mar 24 22:17:47 or about web-site ? mar 24 22:18:00 yeah... I'm having troubles logging in mar 24 22:18:23 off topic: Does ubuntu.be have a twitter mar 24 22:18:33 for some reason, my launchpad ID doesn't let me log in mar 24 22:19:01 JanC, did you already get time to look into that? mar 24 22:19:24 EmilyPlays_, look on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ mar 24 22:19:29 the front page... it's there. mar 24 22:19:47 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/#Contact <-- but I don't know if it's alive mar 24 22:20:31 facebook page is mar 24 22:20:41 It is dead mar 24 22:20:46 sorry.. was away for a sec.. mar 24 22:20:53 yeah, you blew life into that wone, great job by you! mar 24 22:21:20 I can make one if requested mar 24 22:21:39 who will maintain it? mar 24 22:21:47 me mar 24 22:21:58 :-) mar 24 22:22:18 emilyplays_ would you be interested to start blogging for U-be? mar 24 22:22:30 Blogging mar 24 22:22:34 we've talked about this wit mongolito404 and there is a bug for it.. mar 24 22:22:34 As in a blog mar 24 22:22:41 :p mar 24 22:22:51 What langauge? mar 24 22:22:52 jurgentje: normally mongolito404 looks at problems with the website, but IIRC there is an issue with the OpenID support module -- there are two ways to link to launchpad for your openid, and only one works, or something like that mar 24 22:23:03 yes.. I'd like to start one on the website but I know that I don't have the time to do it alone.. mar 24 22:23:10 english I guess :p mar 24 22:23:38 An english blog for Ubuntu.be would be no problem mar 24 22:23:50 But is it worth it mar 24 22:23:57 It will be lots of work mar 24 22:24:10 the problem now is that our website looks way to static to attract people. mar 24 22:24:21 And will it be looked at/ noticed mar 24 22:24:37 we do have the planet, but not all of the content is U related and it's not really dedicated to U.. mar 24 22:24:47 umm... what would be your angle? talking about ubuntu broadly, or about the promotion of ubuntu? mar 24 22:25:10 Well mar 24 22:25:18 We can have a vote about it mar 24 22:25:21 the general goal imo should be to gain interest in ubuntu and ubuntu-be.. mar 24 22:25:26 A little survey on forehand mar 24 22:25:37 so it would be promotion by triggering the curiousity of people.. mar 24 22:25:39 because the scope of ubuntu-be.org is to gather people who promote ubuntu mar 24 22:26:23 I can always try mar 24 22:26:25 but just attracting people curious for ubuntu, would (imo) be counterproductive as we would have to refer them to ubuntu-nl, ubuntu-fr or other mar 24 22:26:41 owke mar 24 22:26:59 so no twitter? mar 24 22:27:01 please, disagree (if you do) mar 24 22:27:08 Twiter + blog? mar 24 22:27:12 I'm wondering jurgentje.. mar 24 22:27:25 No, I really want to mar 24 22:27:27 no, twitter+blog can be nice... because it offers background for promo team mar 24 22:27:41 twitter, blog, fb, identi.ca, orkut.. if it's up to me the more the better (if we could get it synced) :p mar 24 22:27:48 Well mar 24 22:27:49 but I think we need to keep our scope clear mar 24 22:27:52 and our audience mar 24 22:28:07 i can sync facebook with the rest mar 24 22:28:11 Thats why we should get a separate promo team mar 24 22:28:17 well imho it's kind of strange to say that the website is meant for those who promote Ubuntu.. mar 24 22:28:25 E-promo mar 24 22:28:33 We get togheter mar 24 22:28:46 figure it all out, propose our ideas mar 24 22:28:51 And start working mar 24 22:28:55 I allready suggested a social media team, but we'll look in to that when we talk about the new TeamOrganization mar 24 22:29:33 It does not hurt making one while that stuff is in the making? mar 24 22:29:34 yep... once we have a core team, we can consider laying out priorities and then recruiting... but I think we first need the core team mar 24 22:29:42 kk mar 24 22:29:52 indeed.. mar 24 22:29:53 you the ones with experience mar 24 22:29:55 well... making one is great... if it stays alive :) mar 24 22:30:04 +1 on that.. mar 24 22:30:30 it really needs attention all the time or else it will fade away.. mar 24 22:30:35 better to have no pet than a dead pet ;) mar 24 22:30:37 that's why I don't want to start one alone.. mar 24 22:30:46 lol.. that's one way to put it ;-) mar 24 22:30:52 coming back on the website bug #718482 – the support point manual translated in french does not appear when asked, the manual appears in english mar 24 22:31:06 bub.. really? mar 24 22:31:26 bub? mar 24 22:31:43 from where are you 'asking' for it jean? mar 24 22:31:51 just bub, no acronym.. mar 24 22:32:35 http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/node/22 the 4th bullet mar 24 22:32:43 jean, I see the problem I'll change it :) mar 24 22:32:59 So is anyone up for a team already mar 24 22:33:08 or did i figure it out wrong mar 24 22:33:18 and i added a comment to the bug mar 24 22:35:15 a promo team is a nice idea, but with a huge range of possibilities, to be examine, later mar 24 22:35:34 owke mar 24 22:35:47 next topic # 4. things living in the mailing list mar 24 22:35:53 changed it, should work now.. mar 24 22:35:58 item # 1 - laying some foundations or ubuntu-be needs a structure and an organization mar 24 22:36:20 @ woutervddn ok, i look at later mar 24 22:36:33 lfirst ideas about a structure, a leading council and its mission statement has been added to the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamOrganizationlfirst ideas about a structure, a leading council and its mission statement has been added to the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamOrganization mar 24 22:36:54 the first section is about defining the agenda for the meeting planned on 25/04 mar 24 22:37:14 your comment ? mar 24 22:37:36 Well i like the idea mar 24 22:38:22 first : agreement on the need of an organization ? mar 24 22:38:29 hope ther will be enaugh dedicated volounteers then mar 24 22:38:48 hoop doet leven mar 24 22:38:52 yeah, volunteers is always and everywhere the issue :) mar 24 22:38:56 indeed mar 24 22:39:11 that's why we need a core team... and prioritize mar 24 22:39:17 organization will be fundamntal mar 24 22:39:20 people tend to like to join a winning team mar 24 22:39:48 the main issue will be defining a kind of leadership ... mar 24 22:39:48 and it's better to have a team that does a few things good... than a bunch blabbing around all over the place mar 24 22:40:04 We need a couple of people coordinating everything mar 24 22:40:22 Not leaders, but coordinators mar 24 22:40:42 yep, that would be the main coincil... hoping to have the basics straight April 25 ... mar 24 22:41:07 jean, i agree that it is hard to define the kind of leadership in 'terms' mar 24 22:41:11 leaders, coördinaters, guru's, benevolent dictators, whatever you wanna call them. I don't care. mar 24 22:41:19 Well mar 24 22:41:34 I think we all have the same idea about how it should look, but it very hard to write it down on paper.. (at least for me it is..) mar 24 22:41:35 a small team that keeps us on track and on focus :) mar 24 22:41:37 I hate the word, but make it democratic mar 24 22:42:01 a council (or other name) objectives : coordination, support and taking decision when needed mar 24 22:42:16 At least one of the guys in the council has to keep contact with all the teams mar 24 22:42:25 so everyone's voices are heard mar 24 22:42:55 imo the council should at least have meetings with the leaders of the teams.. mar 24 22:43:02 * selckin est parti (Quit: .) mar 24 22:43:09 but I think that it would be a good idea to keep the meetings open.. mar 24 22:43:13 yes mar 24 22:43:22 (open as in like this IRC meeting..) mar 24 22:43:34 Let everyone follow the meeting mar 24 22:43:45 But do not let evrybody speak mar 24 22:44:12 Let them give their points/ideas/messages to that one person mar 24 22:44:13 no problem with that open irc meetings mar 24 22:44:20 everybody is free to join th meetings mar 24 22:44:29 And he can trow it in the group mar 24 22:44:33 So its not a mess mar 24 22:44:43 jean, would you consider seperate council meetings? or just normal meetings but occasional council meetings? mar 24 22:45:24 Open meetings normally, closed when needed? mar 24 22:45:28 if there will be a council it will be fundamntal to make some real life meetings mar 24 22:45:52 yeah, I decided on the first one (meeting 0) last week ;) mar 24 22:46:18 no idea, since 2 years i'm busy with the weekly meeting, but there are a lot of issue that should be worked on by the council mar 24 22:46:25 jurgentje; what was the date again? the 24th? mar 24 22:46:35 25th I think mar 24 22:46:37 Easter Monday mar 24 22:46:47 25th :) mar 24 22:46:58 Should we have a group that desides on people misusing ubuntu.be mar 24 22:47:04 like a little court mar 24 22:47:07 that is a difficult date for me mar 24 22:48:03 @ EmilyPlays it is not our priority mar 24 22:48:06 I don't think we need a court :p mar 24 22:48:27 1st reason is that people either do good work or no work.. mar 24 22:48:41 2nd is that we can't do something because we are open.. :p mar 24 22:48:51 Not to punish or ban people mar 24 22:49:13 But solely to point out their working counterproductive mar 24 22:49:28 everyone can join us, and if they do take a serious 'job' they will do it.. (I don't think we'd let people to important stuff if we don't know what they are capable of..) mar 24 22:49:29 is this a problem according to you? mar 24 22:49:56 I don't think we have trolls or spammers or rude pplz in the mailinglist or groups, do you? mar 24 22:49:58 please do correct me if I'm wrong.. mar 24 22:49:59 Look at wikipedia mar 24 22:50:13 lots of people work counterproductive there mar 24 22:50:28 emilyplays_ we are not wikipedia.. :) we aren't with 100ths.. mar 24 22:50:37 Well mar 24 22:50:42 when i describe the functions of the council as coordination, support and taking decision when needed, including if problems with counterproductive people mar 24 22:50:57 +1 mar 24 22:50:59 If we are all nice and happy its not needed mar 24 22:51:20 +1 mar 24 22:52:03 so you still see the IRC meetings as they are now then? mar 24 22:52:20 (so everyone can have there say..) mar 24 22:52:50 yep, I think that is interesting. (f.e. today we were surprised with EmilyPlays_ joining in) mar 24 22:52:52 You mean the council meetings mar 24 22:53:08 or these meetings? mar 24 22:53:19 IRC = these meetings mar 24 22:53:42 other comment ? council mission statement should be at the agenda first irl meeting mar 24 22:54:16 and about irc meetings, ince 2 years, i'm leading the weekly irc meeting andwriting reports: is there someone willing to share to burden ? mar 24 22:54:20 sure, but I think that can grow in a brainstorming (I assume we're all thinking about that right now) mar 24 22:54:20