**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 29 17:44:43 2009 Mar 29 18:28:44 * Swaps has quit ("leaving") Mar 29 18:29:14 * Swaps (n=fcauwe@64.22.103.171) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 19:38:41 * bbartek (n=bb@ubuntu/member/bbartek) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 20:42:51 * pvandewyngaerde (n=pvandewy@53.88-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 20:59:32 can everybody check that all the important things from last Wednesday are in the report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetingAgenda Mar 29 21:00:25 who is not idling ? Mar 29 21:00:43 * istaz_ (n=olivier@237.184-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 21:01:09 pvandewyngaerde means: who's here for the meeting? ツ Mar 29 21:01:25 o/ Mar 29 21:01:49 ;-) Mar 29 21:01:56 aha, someone new ツ Mar 29 21:03:20 how many people are logging the channel (I do, but in case I lose my connection...) Mar 29 21:04:55 so, okay seems like there are only 4 people here today... Mar 29 21:05:05 probably, dont know if konversation logs by default Mar 29 21:05:34 BramCI_: have you read the "report" from the previous meeting? Mar 29 21:06:32 JanC: no, it's required ? Mar 29 21:07:12 BramCI_: if you have any comments on it, then you can give them now Mar 29 21:07:37 for the other people, they can read it to check I didn't forget anything Mar 29 21:09:03 ok ok, I take a look Mar 29 21:09:55 jean7491: is it all correct what I wrote about what you proposed? Mar 29 21:10:12 oh, it's recent, are you trying to build something new ? Mar 29 21:10:42 we are trying to get ubuntu-be a bit more "alive" again Mar 29 21:10:52 hello Mar 29 21:10:55 ok but very late published ! Point 1 : ok for me, Point 2 : ok for publication in wiki, Point 3 Event-calendar on ubuntu-be.org : but first work on content of calendar Mar 29 21:11:53 jean7491: I think the content (the list of events etc.) can start on the wiki, but at the same time Pierre (& others) can work on the site Mar 29 21:12:01 right? Mar 29 21:14:09 ok, but we need more coordination about how (mise en page) to fill the list of event, only a detail Mar 29 21:15:01 you mean how to (for now) put it on the wiki? Mar 29 21:15:33 or how to build a list of possible events where to promote Ubuntu? Mar 29 21:16:34 yes, but it is only a detail of alinea of mise en page (in het Fr), create an alinea or a table of events Mar 29 21:17:07 not a topic for irc ! Mar 29 21:17:52 we can start with a list of events, and need input from the M-L Mar 29 21:17:53 mise en page == layout I think Mar 29 21:18:16 yes, i forgot the word ! Mar 29 21:18:41 jean7491: can you make a list to start with & then mail the mailing list? Mar 29 21:19:25 jean7491: maybe this should go on a page of its own too Mar 29 21:20:00 (I can help with how the wiki works if you have questions) Mar 29 21:20:20 about ubuntu related and FOSS events, I have something and am looking for more on the net Mar 29 21:20:40 good Mar 29 21:21:31 of course we need more input, events are often locally known (but not allways!) Mar 29 21:22:15 jean7491: indeed, like the Hobbyfestival I talked about on Wednesday Mar 29 21:23:18 we spoke about ubuntu related and FOSS events, but there are more possibilities, like hobby festivals Mar 29 21:24:10 any computer-related event too (e.g. the dipro fairs aren't about FOSS either) Mar 29 21:25:43 BTW, istaz_ & BramCI_ feel free to comment on whatever we say ;) Mar 29 21:25:44 let's start with ubuntu related and FOSS events information, including dipro fairs , after that we can consider more effective events like booth in general fairs Mar 29 21:27:37 we will never be able to do all these events, so I think more possible events is better (it's easier to find one that fits in people's free time) Mar 29 21:28:34 anyway, there has to be this list Mar 29 21:28:50 then we need to find volunteers ;-) Mar 29 21:28:57 yep, but I don't know a lot of event you talk about Mar 29 21:30:32 BramCI_: if you know any event where it would be good to have an Ubuntu promo stand or whatever, then tell about it (or mail it to the mailing list, or put it on the wiki once jean7491 has created a page for this) Mar 29 21:31:35 maybe we can try to contact target organisations and ask on which events we can promote ourselves Mar 29 21:32:15 target organisations : who ? Mar 29 21:32:18 pvandewyngaerde: what do you mean by "target organisations"? Mar 29 21:33:02 BramCI_: currently most promo stands we do is on Dipro fairs ("MicroMegaMarket" fairs) Mar 29 21:33:11 dunno, gezinsbond, oxfam? , kwb, kav, klj, ksa , ... Mar 29 21:33:35 JanC: dipro fairs ? do you have a link ? Mar 29 21:33:54 BramCI_: dipro.be Mar 29 21:34:34 http://www.dipro.be/benl/micro_mega_market Mar 29 21:34:43 they are computer fairs where they sell second hand & new computer parts, all sorts of gadgets, etc. Mar 29 21:35:58 in the past also cheap CD-R/DVD-R (without the copytax), but that stopped after there was a police raid a couple of times ;) Mar 29 21:36:58 pvandewyngaerde: I think most events by those are organised locally Mar 29 21:37:02 haha :D This stupid tax is really annoying Mar 29 21:38:10 "ask on which events we can promote ourselves" is likely easier locally : but how to motivate members of the M-L of from ubuntu-be ? Mar 29 21:38:18 pvandewyngaerde: which is why jean7491 says people should put local events in their region on the list Mar 29 21:38:44 jean7491: we can ask them regularly ;) Mar 29 21:39:04 jean7491: and by telling & showing what we do Mar 29 21:40:12 do you know how many people are in the ML ? 124 members in ubuntu-be team but 53 non located geografically Mar 29 21:40:13 it's important that we make reports with photos etc. (but I'm really bad at that myself, I know...) Mar 29 21:40:35 jean7491: I can check it (I'm the list admin) Mar 29 21:40:42 second... Mar 29 21:41:03 launchpad have an integrate mailing list for teams, why are we using an other one ? Mar 29 21:41:24 ok... I'm a bit late, but I'm finaly here Mar 29 21:41:25 :p Mar 29 21:41:26 there are 383 people on the mailing list Mar 29 21:42:19 Can we track how many of them are active? Mar 29 21:42:31 BramCI_: because that wasn't possible on LP until some months ago (and the list admin on LP aren't really as good as mailman) Mar 29 21:43:16 mimor: you mean, how many of them als osend mails and don't just (maybe) read them? Mar 29 21:43:24 also send* Mar 29 21:43:53 JanC, how many that contribute Mar 29 21:44:14 contribute in what way? Mar 29 21:44:18 I'm new to this list, so it perhaps, its more clear when I'm on it for a while Mar 29 21:44:58 I think only 10-20 people are really active on the list :-( Mar 29 21:45:12 I'll do my best to make it 21 Mar 29 21:45:13 ;) Mar 29 21:45:24 and probably < 10 who are really active Mar 29 21:45:37 what do you think about developping a local structure based (provincie of stad) ? easier to collect infos, exchange, contact with local authorities, associations and clubs and organize local events ? a kind of sub-teams, perhaps based on the 20 active persons Mar 29 21:46:26 the problem is that at half of the really active people live in 1 province currently ;) Mar 29 21:46:35 you always have a really small minority of people who really works on project likes this :/ Mar 29 21:46:54 JanC: witch on e? Mar 29 21:47:01 I'm a new member and noted that the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam#Meetings part is a little outdated Mar 29 21:47:25 West-Flanders (e.g. jean7491, pvandewyngaerde & me now) Mar 29 21:48:04 its a start I guess Mar 29 21:48:07 mimor: right, the wiki needs to be updated, until we have this functionality on the website Mar 29 21:48:27 re Mar 29 21:48:28 so if you want to help, then please do! Mar 29 21:48:46 I have been helping is a certain way :D Mar 29 21:49:12 but more as an ambassador than as an active community member Mar 29 21:49:22 that's okay Mar 29 21:49:34 but I'm ready/old enough to step up a bit Mar 29 21:49:58 you can edit the wiki & make it better Mar 29 21:50:22 and you can always ask me questions here Mar 29 21:50:29 nice! Mar 29 21:50:48 is there a information about the workflow? Mar 29 21:51:20 if you have a LP account, you can log into the wiki & edit pages ;) Mar 29 21:51:22 As when I want to write a wiki to whom I should send it for revieuw etc? Mar 29 21:51:36 so they shouldn't be checked first? Mar 29 21:51:43 but you can always ask me to review things if you want Mar 29 21:51:54 ok Mar 29 21:52:05 there is no way to force any workflow on a wiki Mar 29 21:52:12 If you need a job done... let me know Mar 29 21:52:24 I'll be here almost every evening Mar 29 21:53:16 well, job #1: check the wiki for places where it's outdated or unclear or incomplete, and propose replacement content ツ Mar 29 21:54:31 JanC, you forgot matthew and lieven, "really small minority of people who really works on project likes this" ok, but when you search on the net, there are a lot of associations doing the same (Linux, foss in Brussel, Liege, Arlon, Sambreville, Rixensart, Lichtervelde, ... i think the is a potential for ubuntu to grow Mar 29 21:55:00 there is a potential .. Mar 29 21:55:43 There is indeed a lot of potential Mar 29 21:55:47 jean7491: yes, I only listed people who were here, but you're right that we need to make those other people more active inside ubuntu-be Mar 29 21:56:17 We need to be more active towards them I guess Mar 29 21:56:25 because they promote Ubuntu, but don't even let us know... Mar 29 21:56:54 * yanu has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Mar 29 21:56:55 mimor: which is one reason why we want a calendar & event reports on the site Mar 29 21:57:47 many of these people are on the ubuntu-be mailing list BTW Mar 29 21:58:17 We should make ourselves more visible to the outside Mar 29 21:58:39 yeah, and we're looking for ways to do that Mar 29 21:59:17 Guess that's not a big deal Mar 29 21:59:27 everybody who has a good idea can propose it ツ Mar 29 22:00:21 I've had some great experience in promoting ubuntu on the social lower level of the home users Mar 29 22:00:48 what public do you want to talk to (apprehender) ? Mar 29 22:00:48 perhaps we should get some focus towards them Mar 29 22:01:19 * bbartek has quit ("Ik ga weg") Mar 29 22:01:21 * yanu (n=yanu@d54C5FCC3.access.telenet.be) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 22:01:30 to geeks to join and help us or to people to convince to use ubuntu ? Mar 29 22:01:34 they are one target public, so if you have ideas about how to reach them? Mar 29 22:01:42 People who're still working on a Pentium 3 and a windows 98 as they don't have the money to buy a new one Mar 29 22:02:07 I was surprised to see an article about an installation fest on indimedia a few years ago Mar 29 22:02:11 that's a start Mar 29 22:02:46 but we have those Free & social magazine's like Zone09 for ghent (I know they have them in Antwerp too) Mar 29 22:03:14 but does you target public read that magazine? Mar 29 22:03:23 If we could manage to get an article that explains what Ubuntu is, en where to get the info (inform them about us) we can get a little further Mar 29 22:03:29 yes they do Mar 29 22:03:41 not all of them Mar 29 22:03:49 but a lot of people actually do Mar 29 22:04:13 good, if you know how to get into that magazine ツ Mar 29 22:04:15 I live in a social block for over 7 years Mar 29 22:04:47 The magazine was an example... there are many other ways to publish for free Mar 29 22:05:03 but I'll look for a way to get into some of my area Mar 29 22:05:15 but it would be nice if we could announce something in it Mar 29 22:05:28 like a free installation/distribution event or something Mar 29 22:05:31 what's your area? Mar 29 22:05:35 Ghent Mar 29 22:05:50 there is a dipro fair in gent soon Mar 29 22:06:05 link? Mar 29 22:06:08 that's not really about Ubuntu though Mar 29 22:06:36 dipro gent on 19/04 Mar 29 22:07:04 mimor: you can help on the fair too, of course Mar 29 22:07:15 21:56 < JanC> good, if you know how to get into that magazine ツ << we can't really know till we try Mar 29 22:08:08 istaz_: right, but we need people who want to do this (I hate doing interviews ;) ) Mar 29 22:08:48 * istaz_ hate speaking Mar 29 22:08:50 There's no interview I guess... Its the art of mailing a non-technical but interesting article to them Mar 29 22:08:51 :p Mar 29 22:09:25 mimor: yes, we must do that if there is a local event Mar 29 22:09:26 wasn't there already a article we published in the Metro newspaper sometimes ago? Mar 29 22:09:36 s/sometimes/some years/ Mar 29 22:09:42 istaz_: sure Mar 29 22:09:49 a new article could be based on that one Mar 29 22:09:49 But I'll try to find out how this works and get the information to you Mar 29 22:10:09 for the LTS releases we've sent press releases Mar 29 22:11:04 mimor: if you want to organise a release/install party for jaunty in Ghent, I'm sure there will be people to help Mar 29 22:11:23 and if there is such an event, we can contact the local press Mar 29 22:11:50 I never organised something;... I'd love to but will need lots of help Mar 29 22:12:03 I'm looking into the dipro thing... Mar 29 22:12:07 actually, I have a contact address from someone inside the local TV for Ghent who uses (used) Ubuntu :P Mar 29 22:13:11 you should ask him how we can get into the media Mar 29 22:13:33 not on the TV but on paper Mar 29 22:13:34 :p Mar 29 22:14:12 Can't find a lot of info on the dipro fair :P (there is nothing on the icc page neither) Mar 29 22:14:20 JanC: press release are a bit to technical to be published in non-computer oriented newspaper Mar 29 22:14:37 istaz_: that depends on how you write them Mar 29 22:15:48 mimor: what do you need to know? Mar 29 22:16:14 Is there already an ubuntu/linux event? Mar 29 22:16:39 there will be an Ubuntu stand at the fair in Ghent, yes Mar 29 22:16:41 the costs of a booth is €19/m Mar 29 22:16:55 and we pay 38 € / 4 m Mar 29 22:17:02 will you be there? Mar 29 22:17:05 for dipro gent : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Gent_2009-04-19 Mar 29 22:17:06 I'm glad to help Mar 29 22:17:19 I live near the ICC (10mins walking form my frontdoor) Mar 29 22:17:33 mimor: I'm not sure yet if I will be there, but others will Mar 29 22:17:46 normally i will be there too, its my B-day Mar 29 22:17:50 ow Mar 29 22:17:52 :) Mar 29 22:18:01 remind me ;) I'll buy you something Mar 29 22:18:06 probably a drink Mar 29 22:18:16 and there are 2 or 3 people from Ghent which I expect will be there too Mar 29 22:18:30 who should I contact or where should I enlist? Mar 29 22:19:18 you can put yourself on the wiki to start with Mar 29 22:19:44 normally 1-2 weeks before the fair, someone mails the list to ask for volunteers Mar 29 22:20:10 so that those people can coordinate who brings what Mar 29 22:20:30 ok Mar 29 22:20:40 my tasklist is growing fast :D Mar 29 22:20:44 there is already a page in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Gent_2009-04-19 and there will be an irc meeting (tbd) Mar 29 22:20:54 greate Mar 29 22:22:04 are all unutu-be members in the M-L ? I suppose Mar 29 22:22:36 jean7491: I'm not sure... Mar 29 22:24:53 * hfsdo has quit ("Leaving") Mar 29 22:26:18 I guess not. I had to subscribe to the ML after I joined on lounchpad Mar 29 22:26:28 *launchpad Mar 29 22:26:42 I guess its not linked Mar 29 22:26:53 124 members, but 53 are not located on the map ubuntu-be - why? Mar 29 22:27:28 jean7491: the map thing on launchpad = the map on ubuntu-be Mar 29 22:27:35 erm Mar 29 22:27:43 I mean != Mar 29 22:27:50 it's not the same thing Mar 29 22:28:06 where is that other map ? Mar 29 22:28:16 map.ubuntu-be.org Mar 29 22:28:36 thanks you Mar 29 22:28:42 are there people of openminds online right now? Mar 29 22:28:42 i know, i speak about the map via lp, not the support point Mar 29 22:29:11 jean7491: the reason they are not on that map is because they didn't tell where they are Mar 29 22:29:45 mimor: no (not here at least) Mar 29 22:30:01 http://www.ubuntu.be >> should it be linked to http://www.ubuntu-be.org ?? Mar 29 22:30:09 I can go and ask them if you want Mar 29 22:30:42 mimor: they don't own that domain Mar 29 22:30:55 they are just the domain agent Mar 29 22:31:10 (I know the owner) Mar 29 22:31:29 so I could ask him to do... Mar 29 22:31:32 ow :s that's too bad Mar 29 22:32:02 I tought so because of http://who.is/whois/ubuntu.be/ Mar 29 22:32:11 I know 2 of the openminds people too BTW ;) Mar 29 22:33:00 I used to walk by their office quite a lot, and was happy to see a lot of ubuntu covers on their window :D Mar 29 22:33:39 yeah, I've been there once (bought a laptop from them some years ago) Mar 29 22:34:15 I was looking to buy webspace from them... but I guess I'll take one.come Mar 29 22:34:27 but that's not the thing we should talk about right now Mar 29 22:34:29 :p Mar 29 22:34:36 map of unbuntu-be members - they do not want to tell their adres : ok but why not an indication (city) on the (google) map ? Mar 29 22:34:43 one.com is cheap (in both meanings of that word...) Mar 29 22:35:04 I'm a home user ;) cheap is enough Mar 29 22:35:06 but nvm Mar 29 22:35:13 jean7491: the maps on LP haven't been there for long Mar 29 22:35:23 I've read the hardware wishlist .... Mar 29 22:35:45 Isn't there a way to get them from the city's? Mar 29 22:36:09 jean7491: and most people don't go to their page on LP every day... Mar 29 22:36:13 I know they just replace their hardware and just dump the old ones the be recycled >< Mar 29 22:37:46 jean7491: and I'm not going to set locations for other people without them saying that's okay Mar 29 22:38:12 of course Mar 29 22:38:30 or perhaps we can ask company's to donate their "old" & deprecated laptops/mice to us? Mar 29 22:39:37 JanC, we can ask them to do so in the next mailing? Mar 29 22:40:29 mimor: we do have some computers to use already Mar 29 22:41:13 I have 1 personal laptop that can be of use too Mar 29 22:41:51 yeah, most people who help at the booth bring laptops or old PCs Mar 29 22:42:56 I rarely use it, so If it's needed, I can bring it along. (I use another one as my main laptop) Mar 29 22:43:14 but I guess I can give this info on requesting mails Mar 29 22:43:25 indeed Mar 29 22:43:30 make sure it has a recent Ubuntu version if possible Mar 29 22:44:20 not a problem Mar 29 22:44:29 * istaz (n=olivier@183.21-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 22:44:38 local sub-team - example of gent : 5 members on the map, 1 of the 5 is on the list for dipro : this member could email to the 4 others to inform about the dipro fair Mar 29 22:46:09 it is not the same as the support points - do you see a problem about suggestion ? Mar 29 22:46:44 for me it's okay to mail the people on the support points map too... Mar 29 22:47:49 except we would have to ask Pierre or ask to get access to the server (I can get the mail addresses _if_ I have access to the server & the database) Mar 29 22:48:40 we should take care that there aren't too many people at the booth too ;) Mar 29 22:49:09 i understand the comment of pierre for the support points, members of ubuntu-be are in the definition willing to promote ubuntu Mar 29 22:50:07 I suggest you mail the mailing list first, maybe some of them will answer there Mar 29 22:50:12 OT : For computers don't forget that oxfam also sell second hand computer for a cheap price and I think some of they are running ubuntu Mar 29 22:50:18 no need to mail people twice ツ Mar 29 22:50:39 istaz: yes, in some of their shops they do Mar 29 22:51:20 maybe it could be nice to do some shared activity with them Mar 29 22:51:50 like a starting/discovery course for new owner of theses computer Mar 29 22:53:59 we can cooperate on something like that, if we find someone to give such courses... Mar 29 22:54:07 they also seem to propose thin client installation http://www.easyespace.be/content/view/85/121/lang,fr/ Mar 29 22:54:31 yes that's always the problem ;) Mar 29 22:55:02 maybe cooperation with "volkshogechool" type organisations would work too Mar 29 22:55:06 * selckin (n=selckin@unaffiliated/axxo) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 22:55:18 what is it? Mar 29 22:55:46 i am going to sleep, i have to work tomorrow Mar 29 22:56:03 e.g. in Bruges there is: http://www.vormingplusbrugge.be/icms/web/php/index.php Mar 29 22:56:47 they organise courses & such Mar 29 22:58:16 I've seen that there are installation beats at the Hogent too Mar 29 22:58:35 link? Mar 29 22:58:37 Zeus, from the uGent also supports linux Mar 29 22:58:51 yeah, I know zeus Mar 29 22:59:17 http://wvs.hgsr.be/ Mar 29 22:59:37 http://zeus.ugent.be/ Mar 29 23:00:38 * istaz_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Mar 29 23:02:13 to work locally, i was thinking about contact with ee sociaal huis in oostende to propose some meeting about ubuntu (with a limited public) Mar 29 23:02:15 but how can we co-opperate? Mar 29 23:02:46 jean7491: good idea, do you have contacts there already? Mar 29 23:04:38 not yet i am first thinking about. by the way i read that cedric janssens was working with 3x20 groups , do you know ? Mar 29 23:05:52 what's 3x20 groups? Mar 29 23:06:58 * wouterh has quit (barjavel.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) Mar 29 23:07:13 I guess 3 sessions of 20 people? Mar 29 23:07:20 * wouterh (n=wouter@jig.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 23:07:26 more than 60 years old ! Mar 29 23:07:53 so i understood from his page in the wiki Mar 29 23:08:41 well, he has an organisation for such things IIRC Mar 29 23:09:38 goodnight Mar 29 23:09:47 slaapwel ツ Mar 29 23:10:10 uch things IIRC ? Mar 29 23:10:39 I added myself to the goodnight Mar 29 23:10:39 what is IIRC ? Mar 29 23:10:45 I addes myself to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Gent_2009-04-19 list Mar 29 23:10:47 if i remember correctly Mar 29 23:10:49 he has an association or little company to organise courses I think Mar 29 23:11:30 * pvandewyngaerde has quit ("omg sayid killed ben") Mar 29 23:11:43 i have to think about this project Mar 29 23:11:46 aha, so 2 of the people on the LP map are already on that wikipage Mar 29 23:13:24 JanC, are you living/working somewhere near Ghent? Mar 29 23:13:55 I guess I can already order the booth for Dipro Ghent... Mar 29 23:14:00 mimor: Bruges Mar 29 23:14:25 jean7491 is in Ostend & pvandewyngaerde is in Tielt Mar 29 23:15:18 I worked in Ghent last year... Mar 29 23:15:27 (Arteveldehogeschool) Mar 29 23:16:05 * wouterh has quit (Remote closed the connection) Mar 29 23:16:13 * wouterh_ (n=wouter@jig.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.be) has joined #ubuntu-be Mar 29 23:17:48 so its quite hard to have a monthly drink & talk event Mar 29 23:17:55 and keep it alive Mar 29 23:18:09 ok for the booth in gent, but ask dipro Ubuntu-be to be added in the links on their site (with short presentation ubuntu) ! Mar 29 23:18:43 jean7491: on what page exactly do you want us? Mar 29 23:19:15 http://www.dipro.be/benl/links <-- here? Mar 29 23:19:16 here http://www.dipro.be/benl/links Mar 29 23:19:42 okay, I'll ask ツ Mar 29 23:20:31 what do you think about working with local groups Mar 29 23:21:20 basic idea is to work locally : in this case, someone from Gent should mail to members of gent first to inform about the event, and later requestiong help if necessary ----- and additionnally, in gent there are perhaps other members not on the map Mar 29 23:22:54 I guess some personal contact events will boost the willingness of some people Mar 29 23:23:25 it's motivating to interact with people if you know them a little Mar 29 23:23:28 mimor: do you know a place where such an event can happen? Mar 29 23:23:42 e.g. around the date of the next Ubuntu release? Mar 29 23:23:57 (end of April, maybe early May) Mar 29 23:24:02 and the same for other cities ... Mar 29 23:24:11 guess the best thing is a week after the release... so we have some interesting talking points Mar 29 23:24:31 I only know Ghent for accomodation Mar 29 23:25:17 mimor: I mean in Ghent (it's central for many people who live at this side of Brussels & Antwerp Mar 29 23:26:33 I know a place where people can eate, drink and smoke while they have a wireless connection Mar 29 23:26:35 jean7491: it's how I'd like things to happen, provided that there is some coordination with central ubuntu-be (but that should become better if we can announce local events on the site) Mar 29 23:27:33 smoking is not a requirement for me (they can smoke outside ;) ), but what place is it? Mar 29 23:28:41 Curieuze Neuze, Brusselsesteenweg 412, 9050 Gent Mar 29 23:28:48 it's a small café Mar 29 23:29:00 the upper part can be rented (but is smoke-free) Mar 29 23:29:08 I happen to know the son of the owner >< Mar 29 23:29:35 I guess that'll be enouth as there won't be that many people attending the first meet&greet Mar 29 23:29:45 or however we should name the event Mar 29 23:29:48 "rented" ? Mar 29 23:29:59 it's public Mar 29 23:30:00 I'd call it a release party ;) Mar 29 23:30:40 but the upper part can be made private if we wish (guess I'll have to ask whether we should pay for it) Mar 29 23:31:10 I guess they will say something like "at least 2 drinks a person" or such Mar 29 23:31:27 what do they have to eat BTW? Mar 29 23:31:38 =D Mar 29 23:31:51 spaghetti lasagna croques etc... Mar 29 23:32:13 its not verry expensive but not cheap neither ... Mar 29 23:32:20 self-made or el cheapo stuff from Aldi? ;) Mar 29 23:32:25 I payed 10Euros for a "croque uitsmijter" Mar 29 23:32:31 self-made Mar 29 23:32:58 they have a women and a kitchen :) Mar 29 23:33:26 and all the stuff is fresh and more than enough to be pleased Mar 29 23:33:37 perhaps I should go take some pictures? Mar 29 23:34:04 if possible we should invite other people to the release party, promotion not limited to the ubuntu-fans Mar 29 23:34:55 how do you see that? Mar 29 23:35:37 for larger release parties with speakers etc. that would be a must Mar 29 23:36:28 mimor: how many people can sit in that upstairs room? Mar 29 23:36:29 minimum 5 to 10 non-ubuntu Mar 29 23:37:11 upstairs, I guess 15 people Mar 29 23:37:25 I just called the guy to inform on the pricing Mar 29 23:37:27 jean7491: I think this is more about meeting potential volunteers, I think? Mar 29 23:37:44 mimor: and? Mar 29 23:37:51 yes Mar 29 23:37:52 he'll talk to his dad, and he will propose a one-drink a person Mar 29 23:38:00 so it's free Mar 29 23:38:09 but I have to await the results Mar 29 23:38:12 (tomorrow) Mar 29 23:38:14 we'll drink more & probably some will eat too ;) Mar 29 23:38:20 I know Mar 29 23:38:21 :p Mar 29 23:38:48 about dates : 23/04 release ubuntu 9.04, 23/04 Release party lichtervelde, 25/04 release party in Hasselt, next we is 01/05 ! difficult ! Mar 29 23:40:12 oh, and for the party, we can have a DJ :D Mar 29 23:40:24 an Ipod and a music table :p Mar 29 23:40:37 but first I'll awayt the price Mar 29 23:40:44 who should I inform about it? Mar 29 23:40:53 Or should I just put it here? Mar 29 23:42:01 maybe Friday 24 or Sunday 26 or the next weekend... Mar 29 23:43:48 its all fine by me Mar 29 23:43:51 mimor: are they open on Sunday? Mar 29 23:44:03 Yes they are Mar 29 23:44:06 avoid we 01 may ! likely better sunday 26/04 Mar 29 23:44:07 we should ask on the mailing list Mar 29 23:44:53 mimor: are you on the Dutch forums ? Mar 29 23:45:42 the http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/ forum? Mar 29 23:45:57 yes Mar 29 23:46:25 I subscribed today :) Mar 29 23:46:39 I'm sure we can find some interested people there too Mar 29 23:47:23 what audience are we aiming at for the party? Mar 29 23:48:04 people interested in Ubuntu who want to meet other people interested in Ubuntu? ツ Mar 29 23:48:40 OTOH, we'll have to take care no more than 15 people show up ;) Mar 29 23:48:57 if we promote it too much I mean Mar 29 23:49:04 yup Mar 29 23:49:10 maybe first try to find people not too far from Ghent Mar 29 23:49:24 Count me and my buddy in ;) Mar 29 23:49:40 people who want to help... Mar 29 23:49:50 hmmm.. http://www.releaseparty.eu/ >>> ???? Mar 29 23:50:31 they are still working on that site Mar 29 23:51:01 owk :) Mar 29 23:51:40 JanC i have to stop, my summary till now is the following :... Mar 29 23:51:52 add next known events in wiki (jean7491), more local initiatives (information on events in the ML), proposal release party in gent with invitations to limited public (place!)(26/04?), ubuntu-be members should set their location on the LaunchPad map? Mar 29 23:52:30 next meeting ? 01/04 not a joke ? Mar 29 23:52:54 01/04 evening I hope Mar 29 23:53:05 21 h. Mar 29 23:53:09 ok Mar 29 23:53:13 bussy day that day >< Mar 29 23:53:24 well, "should set their location" is maybe too strong? Mar 29 23:53:33 it is too strong Mar 29 23:53:37 we ask them to do that to make things easier ツ Mar 29 23:53:43 we can suggest to set it Mar 29 23:53:48 feel free to change ! Mar 29 23:54:00 to ease the communication Mar 29 23:54:03 :p Mar 29 23:54:20 okay, I'm going to prepare some food now (I'm used to eat at 22h and it's 2h later already) Mar 29 23:54:35 ok Mar 29 23:55:14 it is just a summary before i leave, bon appetit ! :P Mar 29 23:55:32 bye ;-) Mar 29 23:55:41 slaapwel ツ Mar 29 23:56:00 * jean7491 (n=jm@79.132.234.56) has left #ubuntu-be Mar 29 23:56:22 I'll inform for the following: how to get local press attention, price & date for the releaseparty, check the wiki for outdated or unclear places Mar 29 23:57:00 JanC, Smakelijk ;) Mar 29 23:58:55 mimor: the party will be too small Mar 29 23:59:15 too small? Mar 29 23:59:21 or do you mean press attention more in general? Mar 29 23:59:21 not enough attendees? Mar 29 23:59:27 yes Mar 29 23:59:40 Those were 2 seperate things Mar 29 23:59:47 I mean, if we get into the press, we need more than 15 places ;) Mar 29 23:59:49 first we need to get more organised I guess Mar 30 00:00:05 then we can get into the press with something as an installation beat Mar 30 00:00:19 but first we need to know almost exactly how much we can handle Mar 30 00:00:30 (I have to know before I set something up) Mar 30 00:00:39 right Mar 30 00:00:50 I'm only gonna try to get some information Mar 30 00:01:21 like, how can we get into the press, who can help?; how does it all work Mar 30 00:02:12 I'm just going to inform myself... so when the day comes, we can act quicker and have the word spread faster (I'm starting to sound like a preacher) :D Mar 30 00:02:44 so the upcomming party and the media-attention point are not related Mar 30 00:02:50 ;) Mar 30 00:03:08 for the national press, we have a list of contacts Mar 30 00:03:19 but not really for local press Mar 30 00:04:15 and I'm sure all the local press has an e-mail address to submit press releases, but it's always better if you know a person to contact ;) Mar 30 00:05:46 JanC, http://www.zone09.be/ http://www.metrotime.be/ http://www3.gent.be/evenementenkalender/ Mar 30 00:05:47 ;) Mar 30 00:06:14 http://www.gentblogt.be/ Mar 30 00:06:16 etc.... Mar 30 00:06:23 but I'll figure that out Mar 30 00:06:36 mimor: the openminds peopel are on gentblogt, I think Mar 30 00:06:47 maybe others too Mar 30 00:06:49 It would be nice to get them inside our groop Mar 30 00:06:53 group ;) Mar 30 00:07:14 guess they can support us in ways we can't Mar 30 00:08:14 hm, seems like they aren't Mar 30 00:09:06 you said you know some people from openminds Mar 30 00:09:18 yes Mar 30 00:09:24 are you in a position where you can ask them? Mar 30 00:09:38 you can mention it ;) Mar 30 00:10:25 >JanC< mn persoonlijk mailadres is mike@morraye.be > kan je me altijd op contacteren Mar 30 00:10:33 i don't think they will help at dipro events or such, but I can contact them about a meet & greet (but they are on the mailing list I think) Mar 30 00:11:56 we can keep in mind they or other commercial instances can support us Mar 30 00:19:56 Already marked away: I'm busy Mar 30 00:19:56 Usage: AWAY [], sets you away Mar 30 00:20:30 our biggest sponsor is guy duportail currently ;) Mar 30 00:20:42 k Mar 30 00:20:46 but I'm off Mar 30 00:20:56 have to work tomorrow :p Mar 30 00:21:00 but other companies would be great Mar 30 00:21:05 okay Mar 30 00:21:32 slaapwel ツ