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(21:02:49) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-05-20 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information

(21:03:30) jean7491: who is here for the meeting ?
(21:03:38) wamukota: I am in
(21:03:43) nightrid3r: <---
(21:05:05) jean7491: JanC ?
(21:06:38) pep: me too
(21:08:42) jean7491: mimor ? JanC ?
(21:09:16) pep: let's wait 5 minutes until 21h15, or is anybody in a hurry?
(21:09:37) wamukota: k for me
(21:09:45) jean7491: ok
(21:12:21) jean7491: Remember agenda today 1. Update preparation booth at Dipro Antwerpen 2. Other events 3. Review of promotion material 4.Update Cleaning – Update Wiki and website 
(21:13:41) Carroarmato0 a quitté le salon (quit: "Sto andando via")
(21:16:59) blackskad [n=blackska@78-22-227-45.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
(21:17:48) jean7491: Let's start : topic 1. Update preparation booth at Dipro Antwerpen
(21:18:58) pep: I think I haven't been in contact with any of you that are present before... I am Pierre Vorhagen, student from Liège.
(21:19:14) wamukota: Welcome Pierre
(21:19:21) pep: I had time so I thought I'd pop in
(21:19:35) wamukota: Jean, Is there anything you still need for Sunday?
(21:19:49) jean7491: welcpme pierre, for now, the preparation is ok, manning, material, no problem as i know 
(21:20:34) wamukota: Nice to hear that all is ready
(21:20:38) nightrid3r: i'm bringing a sitecom wifi repeater, we can try to connect to wireless antwerpen
(21:21:25) jean7491: ok nightridd3r, last coordination between participants on irc tomorrow at 21 h.
(21:21:33) nightrid3r: i'll also bring 2 linksys WRT54GL for bridging
(21:22:55) jean7491: if we can start at 9 h. with the preparation of the booth, it should be ready at 10 h.
(21:23:13) jean7491: for the beginning of the fair
(21:23:14) nightrid3r: sure 1 hours should be enough
(21:24:16) jean7491: nightridd3r - anything else for the booth ?
(21:24:54) nightrid3r: dunno, haven't had mucht time to follow the preparations
(21:25:33) jean7491: in fact see the wiki, it is updated manning and material
(21:25:44) nightrid3r: ok i'll check
(21:26:06) pep: if one of you has an eeePC or some other supported netbook, might be a good idea to present the NBR... it's quite an eye-catcher :)
(21:27:05) jean7491: for now no eeepc, nor netbook on the list
(21:28:03) wamukota: jean, i'm off. As I am not feeling to well, I need some sleep
(21:28:19) wamukota: cu all
(21:28:25) wamukota a quitté le salon (quit: "Ik ga weg")
(21:28:31) jean7491: nightridd3r - we'll see tomorrow evening if other things to discuss
(21:28:31) nightrid3r: cu l8er
(21:28:39) nightrid3r: ok
(21:29:19) jean7491: I suggest we start with topic 2. Other events 
(21:30:01) jean7491: as far i know, nothing in june, juli and august, ...
(21:30:25) jean7491: 2 dipro fairs in ghent and antwerpen in september
(21:30:26) pep: well.. we talked about the possibility of attending the lug bbq
(21:30:38) nightrid3r: mmmmm bbq
(21:31:08) pep: interlug bbq on the 22d august
(21:31:18) pep: this is to get closer ties with LUGs
(21:31:26) jean7491: i did n't find info about this bbq on internet
(21:31:41) jean7491: looking i lilit.be
(21:31:56) pep: http://lilit.be/wiki/index.php?page=BbqInterLug2009
(21:32:09) pep: nothing is ready yet, it's merely a date
(21:32:31) pep: but it's the most important event concerning LUGs afaik
(21:33:23) jean7491: we certainly can promote it, but only a date is not much !
(21:34:06) jean7491: i hape we receive more info next months !
(21:34:10) pep: I'm not talking about promoting it yet, but considering that an ubuntu-be "delegation" goes there might be a good idea
(21:34:28) jean7491: certainly
(21:35:40) jean7491: i'll add it in the wiki - future events and later in the calendar on the website
(21:36:48) pep: sure, I just mention it so we look into it a little later, see who's interested...
(21:37:54) nightrid3r: <----
(21:38:28) pep: if it doesn't interfer with my shedule I will be interested too
(21:38:49) jean7491: nothing else for other events ? 
(21:38:50) pep: but it's too soon to decide anything yet, but it's worth to be noted =)
(21:40:39) jean7491: anything else ? other events organized by other lug's or clubs ?
(21:40:56) nightrid3r: not that i know off
(21:41:37) jean7491: ok, topic 3. Review of promotion material 
(21:42:34) pep: for that matter, I'd like to get your attention on the spreadubuntu platform that is still in development
(21:42:47) pep: http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
(21:43:45) pep: it's far from finished, but I think it would be a good idea to submit our promotional material there, this would help in improving it, but also assures enables easy sharing, translation, etc... of the material..
(21:44:41) jean7491: i know spreadubuntu and was looking for posters there , 
(21:45:41) jean7491: we are now working on an improved poster free your pc dutch and french
(21:46:19) pep: if we append an "Ubuntu-be - *" prefis to all the material it will be easily identifiable in the future
(21:46:23) pep: prefix*
(21:46:28) jean7491: when it is done, for sure we can submit our product
(21:46:41) jean7491: or products 
(21:47:40) jean7491: for the poster free your pc, i had reaction on the dutch version, but none for the french one
(21:48:17) ***JanC drops into the meeting
(21:48:26) jean7491: we were reviewing the flyers ... several design are proposed 
(21:48:40) pep: hi JanC
(21:48:46) JanC: sorry, I had a headache and fell asleep :-/
(21:49:05) pep: mhh.. I think I saw that one.. If I am right I think it was quite crowded and with a lot of text... but then that was probably wanted.
(21:49:11) jean7491: JanC we already worked on the 2 first topics
(21:51:00) JanC: yep, I'm reading the backlog
(21:51:06) jean7491: in fact 3 (or4) designs, 1 (or2) dutch and frnch in the wiki, 2 in the mailing list (only dutch for the moment)
(21:51:10) nightrid3r: how come with the number of ubuntero's we have there alway's seem to be like 3,5 people attending the meetings?
(21:51:56) jean7491: a good question ! and there are 20 persons in the room ...
(21:52:16) JanC: most people aren't really active ;)
(21:52:16) yanu: i'm here in silince ;)
(21:52:34) nightrid3r: maybe we should have this meetings in the weekend
(21:52:58) pep: I don't think that would change anything
(21:52:59) JanC: nightrid3r: we did, once, and there was less people than during the week ;)
(21:53:09) nightrid3r: hmmmm
(21:53:09) jean7491: we already tried, but without success
(21:53:31) JanC: some people are just always in the channel anyway
(21:54:19) nightrid3r: i'm like that too, i catch up in the morning
(21:54:30) JanC: right
(21:54:31) pep: I hate repeating myself, but I think the language is for something :-)
(21:54:44) pep: but that's not on the agenda ;)
(21:55:12) JanC: pep: I know several people who are in the channel currently, and for those language isn't the problem really
(21:55:39) pep: ah yeah, it's not the only problem, I'm talking about general ubuntu-be activity
(21:55:45) pep: we talked about this before
(21:55:52) jean7491: coming back to the flyers, there are different concepts about the content of the flyer, more or less expanded
(21:56:43) jean7491: more or less text and information ...
(21:57:16) JanC: pep: if people want to help, language shouldn't be a problem, but maybe the problem is to get thta message across
(21:57:36) pep: maybe, indeed...
(21:58:50) jean7491: and back to the flyers, for antwerpen we'll use the versions ed2 and ed3 existing in the wiki .........
(21:59:27) nightrid3r: i'ts very very short for antwerp but what about "Ubuntu, its all about choice" with the upcomming ellections :)
(21:59:57) JanC: hehe, make a voting flyer? ツ
(22:00:17) pep: Vote for freedom! Vote Ubuntu! :)
(22:00:18) nightrid3r: Stem Ubuntu !
(22:01:15) JanC: might make a nice flyer header, but would make the flyers useless for next fairs though
(22:01:36) nightrid3r: we could make like an old vote form with ubuntu ontop as the party and te benifits as the members, can be used evry time there is an election
(22:01:53) JanC: well, seems like poeple are talking about federal elections later this year, but whatever :-/
(22:03:02) JanC: I'm not sure everybody will like the link to elections
(22:03:27) nightrid3r: i'm pretty sure someone will not like it
(22:04:02) JanC: and we should be prepared to answer political if we use it
(22:04:11) JanC: political questions
(22:04:46) jean7491: for the moment, no change to the flyers/posters, we will have later enough time to think about improvements
(22:04:48) nightrid3r: lets not go there :(
(22:05:24) JanC: nightrid3r: answering political questions is good, but we don't havetime to prepare for that
(22:06:20) nightrid3r: ubuntu-be should stay at least 100M away from politiks and religion at any time
(22:07:38) jean7491: perhaps with another experience in antwerpen, we can develop new ideas about promotion material, wait and see ... 
(22:07:50) JanC: nightrid3r: there is nothing wrong with politics; we just don't want to get caught in party politics
(22:08:08) nightrid3r: yup, thats why
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(22:08:24) JanC: jean7491: right
(22:09:01) jean7491: next topic ? 4.Update Cleaning – Update Wiki and website
(22:10:12) jean7491: if nothing else about promotion material ?
(22:13:23) jean7491: website : sofar i can see bug reports are worked on ... 
(22:14:38) jean7491: pages event-team is still oudated (bug report is introduced)
(22:15:42) jean7491: other remarks for the website ?
(22:16:13) JanC: jean7491: I think pep wants to help with German translations after his finals are over
(22:16:44) JanC: which means starting end of June or early July, I guess
(22:16:47) nightrid3r: a "meet the ubuntero's" page would be nice
(22:16:50) pep: yeah
(22:16:52) pep: sure
(22:17:01) pep: get back to it :$
(22:17:33) JanC: pep: we don't expect you to do much now, studies go first ツ
(22:17:54) nightrid3r: with list of confirmed events we will attend
(22:18:28) JanC: nightrid3r: that would be part of an "agenda"
(22:19:04) nightrid3r: the page i talk about is geared towards visitors
(22:19:11) jean7491: pep, later when you have time, you can add a german version in the bug report #364128 i wrote in dutch, french and english.
(22:19:58) pep: yeah I'll get to that some time later, will do though, I should be around more often in the future
(22:20:26) jean7491: thanks :)
(22:20:27) JanC: first make sure you succeed in your final exams ツ
(22:22:06) jean7491: nightrid3r - an agenda is planned for the website, what do you expect ?
(22:22:17) jean7491: else ?
(22:23:12) nightrid3r: agenda is nice but we should keep visitor and ubuntero stuff separated
(22:23:29) JanC: nightrid3r: why?
(22:23:49) JanC: or what do you mean?
(22:24:17) nightrid3r: to much technical stuff could scare newbie's
(22:24:43) JanC: we should be clear what a particular "event" on the calendar is about
(22:25:07) nightrid3r: thats also a sollution
(22:25:39) JanC: and most events won't be "too technical" really
(22:25:56) JanC: except something like a "website sprint"
(22:26:22) JanC: *maybe* (non-technical peopel could help with that too!)
(22:26:27) nightrid3r: i know but visitors might get the impression that its all geek stuff and we have to avoid that
(22:26:53) JanC: that just means we need to have enough non-geeky stuff on the calendar ;)
(22:27:30) nightrid3r: or separate it and put a "geek stuff here" link at the bottom
(22:28:04) JanC: no, I don't like that, most events are fine for both geeks & non-geeks
(22:28:53) nightrid3r: it's all ok for me als long as visitors can make a distinction between the type of events
(22:31:58) jean7491: about the wiki ?
(22:33:25) nightrid3r: wiki is going to take a torough vacuming cleaning
(22:34:00) Vigo a quitté le salon (quit: "Quitte")
(22:35:48) jean7491: JanC - did you have progress in the updating of thepage BelgianTeam/Responsibility (confirmation of existing names ) ? 
(22:38:42) JanC: jean7491: right, I have to do some more work on that :-/
(22:41:00) jean7491: for me nothing else in the wiki, other remarks about updating the wiki ?
(22:48:12) jean7491: Suggestion of topic for a future meeting : relation with the lug's and computer clubs ? link via ubunteros members of these groups ?
(22:48:55) nightrid3r: ok
(22:48:58) jean7491: other suggestions ?
(22:50:10) jean7491: topic 1 will be the report dipro antwerpen, 2. ? ...
(22:50:45) nightrid3r: wifi @ dipro event's
(22:52:26) jean7491: nightrid3r : we already can discuss it in a'pen between us, and see what in the future ?
(22:52:31) JanC: will there be wifi in A'pen?
(22:52:46) nightrid3r: i'll try to links
(22:53:08) JanC: it really depends on the location
(22:53:30) JanC: Dipro doesn't guarantee
(22:54:36) nightrid3r: the link from sportpaleis is only 200M away from the entrance
(22:55:51) nightrid3r: i'll bring my gear and see what we can do
(22:56:29) jean7491: JanC - you will certainly hear the result later !
(22:58:27) JanC: okay, good luck with the meeting ツ
(22:58:38) JanC: with the fair, I mean
(22:58:41) nightrid3r: for those interested, there's allot of nice gear for long distance wifi in the shop of wireless antwerpen
(22:59:34) jean7491: you will have to explain me about that on sunday !
(22:59:46) nightrid3r: damn :D
(23:00:13) jean7491: next meeting same day and same hour ? i'll add in the report the question about a better day for the meeting ?
(23:00:27) nightrid3r: ok
(23:00:44) nightrid3r: or setup a poll for a meeting day
(23:00:45) JanC: jean7491: if people think they know a better meeting time, they can propose
(23:01:12) JanC: then we can see if it's really better (poll or whatever)
(23:01:21) nightrid3r: ok
(23:01:32) jean7491: ok :)