IRC meeting on 03/06/2009 (21:01:31) jean7491: first who is here for the meeting ? janC? (21:01:42) Wamukota: i'm here (21:01:44) JanC: I'm here (21:02:18) mimor: I'm here (21:04:21) jean7491: Vigo ? (21:05:27) Vigo: Hi, didn't know there was a meeting, just having a look at the agenda :) (21:05:50) jean7491: here the agenda 1. Relation with other LUG's and computer clubs (21:05:50) jean7491: 2. Other events (21:05:50) jean7491: 3. Promotion material (21:05:50) jean7491: 4. Next meeting ? (21:06:02) stani: I'm half present (working on other things) (21:06:46) mollymasta: i'm here for a look ^^ (21:07:03) mimor: :) (21:07:12) jean7491: last week, we already spoke about it : with better contacts with other groups we could improve actively our promotion actions, for example we could cooperate to organize common booth in some occasions (21:08:09) jean7491: no reaction on this topic after the report of last meeting, mail to cedric janssens (for french speaking part) has been posted, no answer yet (21:08:52) Wamukota: I posted a mail on Seniorennet Linux mailgroup, but got not a single response. (21:09:09) jean7491: the first question : who has contact with these lugs and computer clubs and is ready to be interface for contacts? we just had an answer in mechelen (hcc) (21:10:10) annelise [i=4e1ddc90@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1809f78d9a158d28] a rejoint le salon. (21:10:43) jean7491: possibility of mail in the mailing list, but ... (21:11:01) Wamukota: I have no contact hatsoever with computer clubs here in Brugge, so it is a bit difficult for me to go over there and start talking about ubuntu-be (21:11:18) Wamukota: if you are not familiar with the club and its members (21:11:23) mimor: I don't have contact with computer clubs or Lug's, but I already tried promoting Ubuntu-be on the Ugent's group Zeus (21:11:34) annelise a quitté le salon (quit: Client Quit) (21:11:59) mollymasta: idem don't now any club (21:12:24) jean7491: at least you have contact with zeus (lug? in u-gent) (21:13:52) mimor: Zeus is a student club from the University Ghent (21:13:55) Wamukota: is trying to do a demo at schools, by contacting the Informatics-teacher of a school not another way of promoting open source (21:14:36) mimor: Wamukota, that's an option... but the ones aware of the power of ubuntu already teach it (21:14:41) Wamukota: if you have a group of 16-18 year old pupils as audience, they will be interested for sure (21:14:43) mimor: the others are lower grade teachers (21:15:06) jean7491: i will try later a mail in mailing list, we will see , but looking in the calendar of next months there are 3 priorities ... (21:15:10) mimor: an audience of 16-18 tends computer classes to play line-rider :( (21:15:31) Wamukota: kine-rider? wat's that? (21:15:40) jean7491: 1. lilit.be for the bbq in august (21:15:41) mimor: some stupid game >< (21:15:44) mimor: but nvm (21:15:56) mimor: I won't be joining that... (21:16:02) jean7491: 2. hasselt dipro in september (21:16:13) mimor: (it's a little bit too far, and I still have to plan my holliday) (21:16:33) jean7491: 3. charleroi dipro in october (21:16:35) mimor: Perhaps... if there are not enough volunteers from that area, I'll join (21:16:43) mimor: Charleroi... same (21:16:52) mimor: but I need a ride :D (21:18:45) jean7491: for the bbq, it is more a way to improve relation with lilit.be, for dipro fairs, we need local support to organise a booth (21:19:38) jean7491: Vigo, perhaps i already ask it, do you have contact with lilit ? (21:20:47) Vigo: sorry but I have no contact with any lug or ubuntu clubs (21:21:30) Wamukota: is there a list of all the lugs in Belgium, and if so, who is going to contact them? (21:21:40) Wamukota: I think one person must be responsible for that (21:22:06) Wamukota: if we have a point of contact in each lug, coordination will be much simpler (21:22:33) jean7491: there are lists of lug's, but outdated ... (21:23:09) jean7491: and 2 in charge of contacts, but ... (21:23:57) jean7491: the problem is more in the french speaking part of be ... (21:25:22) Wamukota: you mean that are not enough ubuntu users from Walonie in our team? (21:26:24) jean7491: indeed and less concentrated, but there are more lugs... (21:26:24) Wamukota: but even then, the few that we have can do something (21:27:12) Wamukota: then we must contact those lugs, and work from within the lugs (21:27:44) jean7491: it's why i started with this problem ! (21:27:59) Wamukota: are Jan and Cedric willing to start contactingthem? (21:28:18) Wamukota: if not, someby else must be found to do it (21:29:01) Wamukota: hence my question about the list of lugs (21:33:00) Wamukota: I am willing to contact them and pass all the information I receive on the maillist if that can be of any help (21:34:13) Wamukota: then we could setup a list of priorities (21:34:22) mimor: yup (21:35:07) Wamukota: if you agree with this, I'll do it. (21:35:19) Wamukota: I must just have the correct 'message' to pass to them (21:36:22) mimor: I guess jean7491 is the best in writing french texts (21:36:59) Wamukota: don't worry, french is my mother tongue, i can do both (21:37:04) Wamukota: just no german LOL (21:37:13) mimor: ok (21:37:14) mimor: :) (21:37:57) jean7491: message is first contact, then exchange of info about what we do and what they do ... (21:38:22) Wamukota: jean7491, will we both setup the text? (21:38:31) jean7491: and later cooperation, if ... (21:38:33) mimor: use pastebin ;) (21:38:45) mimor: then I can try to add something too (21:38:52) mimor: I'm practicing my french btw :D (21:39:40) jean7491: i don't know the use of pastebin, but we can work on the text (21:40:27) mimor: If it's in pastebin we can all re-read/re-vise it & add sugestions (21:40:30) mimor: or use the wiki page (21:40:39) JanC: or use gobby ;) (21:40:47) mimor: never heard of gobby (21:40:56) ***mimor is checking gobby (21:41:05) Wamukota: we must not let 50 people change the simple 10 lines of text...are we never have a message sent out (21:42:10) mimor: true (21:43:01) Wamukota: it is just like jean7491 said, welcome, who are we and why do we want to work together with them (21:43:46) Wamukota: if we have some extra people to assist us with dipro and other fairs that would be nice (21:44:15) Wamukota: once we have a list of lugs willing to help us, we can move on (21:44:25) jean7491: we can start with 4 Wamukota JanC mimor and me to elaborate text for contacts (21:44:30) mimor: So to conclude, Wamukota end jean7491 will write a text to get in touch with the lugs (21:44:46) jean7491: yes (21:44:52) Wamukota: indeed (21:44:52) mimor: and JanC and Me will revise it ;) (21:44:58) mimor: (I feel like a teacher) (21:44:59) mimor: :D (21:45:06) Wamukota: super. that's it (21:45:08) jean7491: :-D (21:45:10) ***mimor feels evil for some reason (21:45:34) mollymasta a quitté le salon (quit: ) (21:46:07) Wamukota: off-topic : i must walk my dog now brb (21:46:14) mimor: :D (21:46:15) mimor: ok (21:46:19) mimor: have fun :p (21:46:30) jean7491: and about priorities for the next months, (and looking to active lugs), we can focuse on liege-lilit (bbq), charleroi (dipro) and bxlug (next release party or other events) (21:46:52) mimor: I'll do the next release-party for ghent (21:47:06) mimor: if there are people wanting to help me with it... they're welcome (21:47:10) mimor: just send me a mail (21:47:19) jean7491: ok enough for this topic, next events ... (21:47:19) mimor: ubuntu@morraye.be should work by now (21:48:44) jean7491: about release party 9.10 in november : indymedia organise something in the first days, then 8/11 dipro ghent, and later 29/11 dipro antwerpen (21:49:08) jean7491: release party should be between dipro ghent and a'pen (21:49:11) stani a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) (21:49:18) mimor: k (21:49:37) mimor: same way to determine the date by creating a doodle? (21:50:32) jean7491: we have to think about !? (21:51:26) jean7491: and perhaps start with possibilities of infrastructures (21:51:54) stani [n=stani@h147195.upc-h.chello.nl] a rejoint le salon. (21:52:29) mimor: 21 nov release party ghent? (21:52:44) mimor: Same place as previous party (21:52:50) mimor: guess that's enough (21:53:14) jean7491: i am not sure ! (21:54:08) jean7491: it's better to have a choice between several possibilities ... (21:54:22) mimor: dates or locations? (21:55:21) jean7491: locations, with + and - arguments according the extend of the public (21:55:47) jean7491: and what we are planning to do ... (21:57:09) jean7491: we can exhange ideas about it later, outside of this meeting ... (21:57:23) mimor: k :) (21:57:24) jean7491: and come back in meeting later (21:58:13) nightrid3r a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) (21:58:27) jean7491: about other events : program of dipro fairs september to december is posted in the wiki names of volunteers for the booths can be added in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs (21:58:44) jean7491: and names are already in ! (22:00:26) jean7491: about events, we already spoke about the events-team ... (22:00:55) jean7491: but we should consider what are the missions of this team ? (22:01:46) Wamukota: promote open source, (22:01:53) mimor: keep track of upkomming events and help organising them? (22:02:00) jean7491: a first thing is looking for opportunities to develop the promotion of ubuntu, (22:02:46) jean7491: then establishing a calendar of future events and publish it in wiki/website (22:03:25) jean7491: 3. taking initiative to launch the organisation of activities/events (22:03:57) Wamukota: right, but this is all 'around' the event, what during an event ? (22:04:04) mimor: primary part is indeed the maintainance of the Meeging and events page on the wiki (22:04:25) Wamukota: or is that not for the event-team (22:04:35) jean7491: and helping organisators to organize events (22:04:38) Wamukota: and more for the booth-team? (22:05:08) mimor: they should also should also work together with the promotion-team, to promote events ;) (22:05:24) mimor: they can't be on the booth-team (22:05:34) jean7491: i see the first impulse coming from events-team, ... (22:05:35) mimor: booth-team varies from location to location... (22:05:56) Wamukota: so we have an event-team (who ?) a promo-team (who?) and booth-teams (22:06:02) Wamukota: quite complex (22:06:09) mimor: Would it be of some use if there was some kind of work-flow and task description of existing groups? (22:06:48) Wamukota: well i think you will always see the same names appear, as in any organization (22:07:02) jean7491: and later a core-team or booth-team working on activity/event (22:07:17) Wamukota: we are not such a large group that we can easily distribute tasks (22:08:37) jean7491: main problem is to launch an intiative for an event, ... (22:09:43) Wamukota: what kind of events do we have? 2 types : twice a year a release party type of event, and then the dipro fair type of event (22:09:53) Wamukota: for each a scenario must be written out (22:10:11) jean7491: then when we found a response of volunteers, other people can go ahead with organisation of the event, (22:10:16) Wamukota: then we must see what is needed for each scenario (22:10:35) Wamukota: pepole, hardware, software... (22:10:50) jean7491: for dipro, see wiki, all is in ! (22:11:07) Wamukota: correct (22:11:09) jean7491: for release party, it is to do ! (22:11:58) Wamukota: this is a task for those who have done more than one release party (22:12:08) mimor: Is it ok for you if I take the position as Release-party chief of organiser like rank? (22:12:08) Wamukota: they can write the requirements down (22:12:16) mimor: grrr (22:12:21) mimor: I've done only one :( (22:12:32) Wamukota: no props (22:12:56) mimor: I know, I'm quite new to the community (22:13:02) mimor: and quite new to Linux too (22:13:07) jean7491: release parties : 3x small release party, 1x large for lts version ... (22:13:12) Wamukota: i am too, i've not done a R party yet LOL (22:13:16) mimor: but I've learned quite some things from my first release party (22:13:20) mimor: and I'd like to share them (22:13:43) Wamukota: fine with me. as long as it becomes available to all in the wiki (22:13:55) mimor: So I'll try to write down some "workflow" for organising the release party (22:14:18) Wamukota: nice. (22:14:19) mimor: It's in my tasklist due to next week wednesday 21H (22:14:41) mimor: but don't shoot me if it isn't 100% as you're used in professional environements :) (22:14:41) jean7491: and have a look in reports of previous release parties (be and nl) (22:14:43) Wamukota: well, no need to hurry. We still have 5 months (22:14:56) mimor: But I don't have 5 months (22:15:05) mimor: it's all bussy bussy bussy right now :( (22:16:12) Wamukota: jean7491, another topic? (22:16:39) jean7491: ok, we see echanges on release party next week ! the next topic ? promotion material ! (22:17:37) Wamukota: is there anything specific we need (22:18:17) jean7491: last week we spoke about the proposal to paint an ubuntu banner (1 m x 0.5 m.) on textile (indra - at home in stekene) - we have 1 volunteer to help ... (22:18:29) Vigo a quitté le salon (quit: "Quitte") (22:19:31) jean7491: let's hope other volunteers can help indra to paint the banner (and for better direct contacts with him) ... (22:20:07) jean7491: stekene is not to far from ghent area ! (22:20:19) Wamukota: just for a check : HW is no problem, presentation ok, flyers ok, CD's ??? (22:21:26) mimor: I'd like to help, but my car is out of business :( (22:21:33) mimor: yes, it still is (22:21:50) jean7491: cd's 9.04 are still in stock by JanC, i try to help indra with his proposal (22:22:49) JanC: Indymedia might have CDs in stock too (22:23:09) Wamukota: we all know that Windows 7 will be released in october. Maybe a newspaper interview of Clickx interview around that period would be needed (22:23:22) JanC: for those closer to BXL (22:23:25) Wamukota: just to counteract the overwhelming MS propaganda (22:24:42) Wamukota: do we invite the press on the release pary? (22:25:18) mimor: we might (22:25:24) mimor: that's something we can keep in mind (22:25:35) mimor: In any case... I will ;) (22:26:03) Wamukota: does somebody know of a company using ubuntu desktop + server? Could they then not sponsor us (22:26:38) mimor: we got the beamer from krimson last time (22:28:47) jean7491: it is an idea to think about : press in october to promote ubuntu, we need more proposals (22:29:52) jean7491: the other idea of sponsor, to discuss with JanC, taking in account the past of ubuntu-be (22:29:53) Wamukota: put the question on the mailling list. We are only 3 or 4 here tonight (22:31:24) jean7491: for today i'd like to help indra, mimor, is there someone else in ghent who could help to paint the banner ? (22:32:53) jean7491: with liese (volunteer) after 22/06 (22:33:21) mimor: perhaps: Pieter Iserbyt (22:33:50) mimor: I'll ask him if I encounter him somewhere around my working-space (22:33:51) mimor: :D (22:34:01) mimor: (he works in the same building as me) (22:34:16) mimor: but some googling should bring up his gmail adress (22:35:24) mimor: other remarks? (22:35:30) mimor: Other topics? (22:35:34) mimor: next meeting? (22:35:40) jean7491: wait ... (22:35:43) mimor: k (22:36:17) jean7491: support for the posters : improvised support is not nice to see! suggestions? JanC something new ? (22:37:32) JanC: no, haven't been to my parents last weekend (22:37:57) jean7491: or Gh0sty ? (22:38:15) mimor: guess he isn't around (22:38:31) mimor: otherwise he would've appologise for being late ;) (22:38:53) jean7491: ok, ;-) then we wait for ideas ;-) (22:38:58) mimor: :) (22:39:29) mimor: JanC: thx for the tip on learning Python instead of java! (22:39:34) jean7491: for use in fairs (booth) and other parties, we need material to clearly identify the people in charge of the activity : a badge for the belgian loco team with ubuntu lanyards and t-shirts, (22:41:00) jean7491: i suggest a pool of 10-20 badges (without name) we can dispatch according to the need (22:41:04) mimor: how about setting up some sort of support shop? wher people can donate some money & gain a CD, sticker, T-shirt when they add some amount of donation? (22:41:41) Wamukota: but we are not a VZW / ASBL so the question about money and making money is a trivial one (22:41:59) mimor: they can already just donate something (22:42:12) Wamukota: who collects the money then? (22:42:45) mimor: so if we 'reward' them when they do - acording to the amount of money donated - it would give us some more movement space (22:42:58) mimor: dunno... who's the money-keeper? (22:43:02) mimor: guess jean7491 knows (22:43:17) JanC: Wamukota: we have a bank account, and 2 people have access to it (22:43:28) Wamukota: ok (22:43:42) jean7491: see wiki-responsibilities (22:43:58) mimor: ok, let that be a point for next time (22:44:06) mimor: (I have to go get some more nicotine) (22:44:17) mimor: I ran out an hour ago :( (22:44:19) Wamukota: :) (22:44:30) jean7491: wait, it is good for your health (22:44:44) mimor: but not for the things around me :) (22:45:31) jean7491: don't worry ! :P think first ! your health ! (22:45:34) mimor: let's finish the question of jean7491 about the badges/shirts (22:46:06) mimor: I guess it would be nice if we'd all weare the same black outfit with the logo on it (22:46:15) mimor: but I wonder who's gonna sponsor that one >< (22:46:41) jean7491: ok, we see next week ! (22:46:53) mimor: k (22:47:07) jean7491: let's close, next meeting ? (22:47:10) mimor: next meeting 10 june 21 h.