IRC meeting on 10/06/2009
(14:02:25) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est :  http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-06-10 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and moreinformation
(20:59:58) jean7491: good evening everybody, who is here for the meeting?
(21:01:03) Wamukota: evening... i'm here
(21:03:22) JackJill
[i=50c8f8cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b1e65710398a175f] a rejoint le
salon.
(21:07:45) jean7491: so i am not alone !
(21:08:34) Wamukota: no, on peut m?me faire le meeting en Fran?ais LOL
(21:10:21) JackJill a quitté le salon
(21:10:54) Gh0sty: are we fast or too late? :p
(21:11:11) jean7491: just on time!
(21:11:41) JackJill
[i=50c8f8c9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86ebb4e2bbd20df5] a rejoint le
salon.
(21:11:46) Gh0sty: eerst nog boterhammeke smeren, brb :p
(21:11:54) Wamukota: nr. 3 has arrived. Evening Gh0sty
(21:12:01) jean7491: smakelijk
(21:12:10) JackJill: 3 and counting
(21:13:02) jean7491: Jackjill : what is your location ?
(21:13:24) JackJill: Belgique
(21:13:43) jean7491: good start ...
(21:13:58) JackJill: Even better ... Zottegem  ;-) 
(21:14:08) Wamukota: nog nen West-vlaming ....
(21:14:27) JackJill: Nie vloeken he!
(21:14:40) JackJill: Zottegem is Oost-Vlaanderen
(21:14:52) Gh0sty: what?
(21:14:57) Gh0sty: no kidding
(21:14:57) Wamukota: ach, sinds lang al? LOL
(21:14:59) jean7491: Oostend, Brugge, Zottegem, en Gh0sty Gent (?)
(21:15:00) Gh0sty: where?
(21:15:09) Gh0sty: nee idem met JackJill :p
(21:15:44) Gh0sty: en Wamukota NEE dat is niet w-vl! :p
(21:15:56) Gh0sty: tussen gent en aalst
(21:16:00) Wamukota: sorry guys ...
(21:16:20) JackJill: Vlaamse Ardennen
(21:16:45) Gh0sty: geluk kan schuilen in kleine dingen zoals dezen
boterham met konfituur!
(21:17:03) Gh0sty: moet al wel een jaar geleden zijn dat ik nog
konfituur gegeten heb :|
(21:17:15) ***JackJill watertanden
(21:17:41) nightrid3r: eeeeww konfituur van een jaar oud  :( 
(21:17:41) Gh0sty: sinds mijn ma licht suikerziek is komt hier nog maar
weinig konfituur in huis :/
(21:18:07) Wamukota: me also diabetis type 2
(21:18:13) JackJill: Leuke uitvinding: confituur voor diabeet
(21:18:15) Gh0sty: *por* JanC
(21:18:30) Gh0sty: mja maar tis toch niet hetzelfde als materne :P
(21:21:36) OmegaII: Gh0sty wist ge dat er konfituur zonder suiker is  ;) 
, tenzij ze geen fruit mag eten tous court :x
(21:21:46) OmegaII: smaak is't zelfde
(21:21:59) Gh0sty: das wat JackJill net ook zei
(21:22:05) Gh0sty: maar ik zeg dat normale beter is :P
(21:22:30) Gh0sty: want die suikervervangers ... maakt uwe konfituur
harder, maar soit, we zijn hier niet om over konfituur te zeveren :P
(21:22:30) OmegaII: kk , over gelezen sorry  :) 
(21:22:34) Gh0sty: ubuntu dan maar ... ? :p
(21:22:59) jean7491: OmegaII : where are from ? are you here for the
meeting ?
(21:23:00) JackJill: Is dat ook een merk van confituur?
(21:23:01) OmegaII: doe maar I'll be silent again ^^
(21:23:22) Gh0sty: :P
(21:23:25) OmegaII: No jean7491 I was looking for help, just idlinghere,
so I'll be silent again, I had no clue there was a meeting sorry
(21:23:28) Gh0sty: hmm nice promo idea
(21:23:32) Gh0sty: ubuntu confituur :P
(21:23:48) Wamukota: OmegaII, what is your question
(21:23:55) jean7491: meeting is not about confituur !
(21:23:58) Wamukota: don't wory for the meeting
(21:24:11) Gh0sty: Remember IRC meeting today Wednesday 10/06/2009 at 21
h. on #ubuntu-be --
(21:24:11) Gh0sty: irc.freenode.net
(21:24:11) Gh0sty: See agenda in wiki
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
(21:24:41) Wamukota: OmegaII, you are even welcome to participate in the
meeting
(21:24:47) OmegaII: I'm still investigating Wamukota, still figuring out
if it's a software or a hardware problem. So I'll ask it later on  :) 
(21:24:48) OmegaII: Thx  :) 
(21:25:14) Wamukota: OmegaII, oke
(21:25:34) Wamukota: jean7491, are we ready to start?
(21:25:42) jean7491: topic 1. is IRC meeting as communication channel of
the Be LoCo Team    
(21:26:19) jean7491: we started regular irc meetings as a way to
exchange information and views about subject related  to   ubuntu-be  
(21:26:41) jean7491: it is not easy to find the day and hour for the
meeting that everybody is happy with.
(21:27:12) Wamukota: Why not use the Ubuntu LoCo Team Forums
(http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=183)
(21:27:28) Wamukota: that way we can communicate in a off-line way
(21:27:40) Wamukota: and discuss the results in the weekly chat
(21:27:55) jean7491: but only a small group (today a very small)is
taking part or following the meeting.
(21:28:23) Wamukota: well yes, and by using the forum, we can have more
info available during the time of a week
(21:28:51) jean7491: i don't know this forum
(21:28:59) Wamukota: just have a look
(21:29:13) Wamukota: many loco teams world wide have a forum there
(21:29:32) Gh0sty: im fine with the day and hour but if I don't open my
mail on the right (like today) it might slip my short memory span ...
(21:29:48) jean7491: with the system of irc meeting : for who is not
present at the meeting, we publish in the mailing list a report, as in
the wiki, with the log. we can assume that everyone has the possibility
to read the report in the mailing list and the wiki.  
(21:30:12) Gh0sty: oh and i read my backlogs usually however the one
from last week was big :p
(21:30:43) mimor: hello all, sorry I'm late
(21:31:07) Wamukota: no props, we started late anyhow
(21:31:55) jean7491: there is very limited reaction to the meeting
reports, and i am optimist
(21:32:56) Wamukota: you could deduct from the response that few are
interested
(21:33:16) Wamukota: or that we are not talking about the stuff they are
interested in
(21:33:45) jean7491: perhaps
(21:34:16) mimor: The meeting-reports are a big help
(21:34:29) mimor: as I sometimes miss a meeting, I can easily catch up
(21:34:43) Wamukota: although this week there was some activity on the
maillist with new volunteers proposing to assist during Dpro's
(21:35:03) Wamukota: so there is interest, but not for this kind of
meetings apparantly
(21:35:20) JanC: most people don't have the time to attend regular
meetings and be active all the time, I fear...
(21:35:42) mimor: This meeting is actually more popular for people
supporting ubuntu-be as a total, whilst others on the mailing list are
more bystanders I guess
(21:35:46) Wamukota: yes, and we all have a family, and kids, ....
(21:36:03) JanC: even if they might want to help for occasional activities
(21:36:06) mimor: JanC: that's nothing to fear off  ;)  (don't be scared)
(21:36:14) jean7491: or 1 meeting each  week is too much
(21:36:37) mimor: To me, the things are fine in the way they are now
(21:36:47) Wamukota: we could make a meeting 'on call' with a default of
one per month for example
(21:36:56) JanC: jean7491: obviously it is too much for many people, but
nobody has to attend every meeting
(21:36:57) mimor: one less wouldn't be enough on dates befor some event
(21:37:24) JanC: assigning special meetings about 1 specific topic might
be a good idea though
(21:38:12) mimor: jup, but they shouldn't replace the fixed-date meeting
(21:38:13) jean7491: JanC did you follow since the beginning ?
(21:38:33) JanC: I've read most, I think  ツ
(21:38:49) mimor: hmmm... confituur  ;-)  (I've read it all)
(21:38:56) Wamukota: lol
(21:38:57) Gh0sty: LOL
(21:39:03) Gh0sty: shtttt :P
(21:39:05) JackJill: lol
(21:39:33) mimor: who would like less meetings?
(21:39:49) JackJill est désormais connu sous le nom de materne
(21:40:04) mimor: I prefer attending as much meetings as I can, and read
the reports for those I missed
(21:40:21) mib_o3l7qm
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salon.
(21:40:32) Gh0sty: I read the list as well, but don't always respond
(21:40:43) mimor: There's nothing to respond  :) 
(21:40:48) jean7491: as we are never more than 6 or 7 in the meeting, it
can not be consider as a communication channel of the Be LoCo Team !
(21:40:55) Gh0sty: like with the dipro stuff is all fine, but it's not
like I plan stuff like that 3 months beforehand
(21:41:01) mimor: Its a F11 button for the memory
(21:41:02) Wamukota: correct jean7491
(21:41:39) mimor: But it's still nice to put things on order
(21:41:40) Wamukota: if you count the number of members and those who
attend, few are intereseted
(21:41:52) mimor: or few have the time
(21:42:08) Julius [n=julius@unaffilated/julius] a rejoint le salon.
(21:42:08) mimor: but those who don't have the time to attend it every
week, can still join whenever they want
(21:42:12) JanC: jean7491: it is one communication channel
(21:42:19) JanC: but not the only one
(21:42:20) Wamukota: but look at the list of users now on-line, and not
10 are taking part
(21:42:23) Julius: Hello
(21:42:36) Wamukota: hoi Juje007
(21:42:44) Wamukota: hoi Julius
(21:42:47) JanC: jean7491: the mailing list is also there
(21:42:52) mimor: when I first joined, there were only 3 people taking
part  ;) 
(21:43:13) Julius: I'm a member of "Sambrelug", a LUG here in Wallonie
 :)  I've just checked my mail and see that there's an irc meeting here.
My english is not really good but... I'm here  :) 
(21:43:16) mimor: So I guess it needs to grow a little bit
(21:43:31) Wamukota: JanC, for a newcomer a forum is probably more
appriate than an IRC channel
(21:43:44) mimor: Julius: You're welcome. If there's something that you
don't understand, you can still ask
(21:43:53) Wamukota: and later he/she will join us here
(21:44:01) JanC: Julius: if there is a word you don't know in English,
feel free to throw in French words, several people can translate if
needed   ;) 
(21:44:02) jean7491: welcome julius
(21:44:07) mimor: Wamukota; JanC: I agree
(21:44:43) mimor: A forum would be nice..
(21:44:45) Julius: JanC: good idea  :)  thanks... I think you can remember
me ? I'm the contact you had for the Ubuntu 8.04 cd's in Wallonie. You
sent me a part of the cd's that were sent to the Loco
(21:45:04) JanC: Wamukota: maybe, if you want to take care of it (e.g.
forward ideas, issues, etc. to these IRC-meetings or the mailing list)
(21:45:10) Wamukota: mimor, have a look at
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=183
(21:45:19) Wamukota: thay have loco forums there
(21:46:01) JanC: Julius: I remember giving CDs to liezie, who brought
them to Brussels, for somebody in Wallonia  ツ
(21:46:01) mimor: k
(21:46:06) jean7491: i presume we can not say more about our 1st topic
IRC meeting, and the arrival of Julius is a good transition to the 2d topic
(21:46:32) jean7491: 2. Relation with other LUG's and computer clubs
(21:46:40) Julius: JanC: yes that's it... I received that in
Louvain-la-Neuve and bring it with me in Sambreville where some guys of
the NamurLUG and the FSUGAr took some of it
(21:46:56) JanC: oh, right, there was one more step  :P
(21:46:57) Gh0sty: just a last tought: maybe not such a bad idea only
irc meeting every couple of weeks?
(21:47:04) Julius: jean7491: I've just answered to your mail  ;) 
(21:47:37) mimor: first toppic wasn't closed yet I guess?
(21:47:38) jean7491: ok, received but not yet read
(21:47:57) mimor: Will there be anything changed on the meetings? will
there be a LoCo forum?
(21:48:00) Wamukota: I have one person that responded to my request on
Seniorennet and became member of the maillist
(21:48:36) jean7491: wait for topic 2,
(21:48:39) JanC: Wamukota: would you like to set up and help "run" an
ubuntu-be locoteam forum?
(21:48:53) Wamukota: no problem JanC , count me in
(21:48:59) JanC: meaning that you forward interesting things to the
mailing list?
(21:49:12) Wamukota: fine, i'll be the gobetween then
(21:49:33) JanC: because i don't have the time / motivation to
frequently visit those forums   ;) 
(21:49:37) Wamukota: i can mod the forum and pass all interesting data
from and to the maillist
(21:49:58) JanC: and I'm pretty sure Gh0sty & some others here don't either
(21:50:06) mimor: I'm also a volunteer the forum if needed
(21:50:18) Julius: I'm sorry, I didn't see the beginning of the
discussion but what do you want to improve ? Do the loco want to be in
touch with "not-geek" or what ? Because I think the main difficulty for
people finding help on Ubuntu-be is the language
(21:50:29) Julius: (on the ML I guess...)
(21:50:29) Gh0sty: hmmm I have been looking for some forum which
includes mailinglist in the past, did not find anything though :/
(21:50:39) Gh0sty: had some similar idea for ugov
(21:50:47) JanC: Julius: ubuntu-be isn't really about "technical help"
(21:51:06) Filbert a quitté le salon (quit: Remote closed the connection)
(21:51:10) JanC: Gh0sty: ping me after the meeting   ;) 
(21:51:19) Gh0sty: Running a simplemachines forum for a long time ...  :) 
(21:51:25) Gh0sty: or better several
(21:51:44) JanC: Wamukota: it would also be good to forward important
things from the ML to the forums then etc.
(21:52:01) JanC: like requests for help, reports, etc.
(21:52:27) Wamukota: JanC, AFAIK you should make the request and add my
name to the list of mods (see
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290685)
(21:52:43) JanC: okay, I'll look into it
(21:53:04) jean7491: Julius : the 1st topic was about improving the irc
meeting as communication channel of the LoCo team (frequency, topics, ...)
(21:53:09) Wamukota: and I'll do the rest then
(21:54:10) mib_o3l7qm a quitté le salon (quit: "http://www.mibbit.com
ajax IRC Client")
(21:54:22) Julius: jean7491: ok... I will read the report. np
(21:54:49) JanC: Wamukota: it would also mostly be about peopel asking
Belgian-organisation-specific things (for technical support the nl/fr
forums are better in general)
(21:55:33) Wamukota: oke. only Belgian Loco stuff of course
(21:55:43) JanC: and I think language isn't really a problem for you  ツ
(21:55:53) Wamukota: no, can be Nl - Fr or En
(21:57:49) JanC: *sigh*, now I have to find my ubuntuforums account...   :P
(21:57:57) Wamukota: hihihi
(21:58:26) JanC: okay, it's in Revelation (my "password database")
(21:58:32) Wamukota: and we must also adapt the data in the forum column
on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
(21:58:59) Wamukota: there are 2 forums mentioned there, but they are
not loco oriented
(21:59:13) JanC: well, add the new forum to that
(21:59:58) JanC: there is some overlap between LoCos
(22:01:07) JanC: anyway, next topic   ;) 
(22:01:20) jean7491: about irc meetings, any change ?
(22:01:35) jean7491: periodicity? topics?
(22:02:00) Wamukota: do we change the frequency during the summer hollidays?
(22:02:48) Wamukota: if we go one every 2 weeks in July and August we'll
experience if that works for the rest of the year
(22:03:51) jean7491: suggestion : no change in june and 1/2weeks in
july-august. later ?
(22:04:07) Wamukota: fine for me
(22:04:15) Gh0sty: y
(22:04:28) materne: ok
(22:04:59) jean7491: JanC?
(22:05:06) jean7491: mimor?
(22:05:10) Juje007 a quitté le salon (quit: Connection timed out)
(22:05:46) JanC: fine for me  ツ
(22:06:11) jean7491: topic 2. Relation with other LUG's and computer
clubs    
(22:07:04) Wamukota: I have one person that responded to my request on
Seniorennet and became member of the maillist
(22:07:10) Wamukota: for the rest nothing
(22:07:53) jean7491: anything about lugs? i proposed Julius to exchange
information ubuntu-be - sambrelug, and perhaps cooperate
(22:08:33) Gh0sty: ugov is present ^^
(22:08:52) jean7491: for more activities in the french-speaking part of be.
(22:08:58) Gh0sty: but it's not like all of our members are ubuntu fans,
I usually forward stuff :p
(22:09:34) jean7491: in 2 directions?
(22:09:38) materne: What about Zeus, Lugwv?
(22:09:58) mimor: jean7491: ok (little late)
(22:10:01) Gh0sty: I forward meetings and stuff to our mailinglist
(22:10:10) Gh0sty: it's for them to decide if they are interested :p
(22:10:26) Julius: I answered that all parts os Sambrelug likes Ubuntu
and that's a good idea to promote it. That's already what we're doing
but we've never been yet in an "Computer event" (dipro)
(22:10:30) Gh0sty: hmm Zeus ... trying to get some contacts in there
like *forever*
(22:10:45) Gh0sty: from someone I heard most members of zeus are
actually W-vl :p
(22:10:56) Gh0sty: and lugwv not sure if that still exists? :/
(22:11:17) JanC: materne: lugwv is mostly dead
(22:11:46) JanC: except for #lugwv which has 2.5 people who still talk
sometimes
(22:11:48) Gh0sty: even though there exists another alternative around
w-vl  :) 
(22:11:48) materne: Zeus == lugwv
(22:12:18) JanC: materne: no, it's not
(22:12:25) Julius: Do Ubuntu-be have a list of event where it can be
interested to have someone who represent Ubuntu ? Maybe this
informations can help LUG's to focus on activities where they can take part
(22:12:49) JanC: Julius: yes, on the wiki
(22:13:10) JanC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/FutureEvents
(22:13:27) Wamukota: and also
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs
(22:13:49) JanC: Wamukota: the other one is better (more general)
(22:14:00) JanC: even if more events could be added   ;) 
(22:15:05) jean7491: Julius on 11/10 a Dirpo fair in Charleroi
(22:15:08) Julius: That's a really good point. I think Sambrelug can
take part in this.
(22:16:00) Julius: jean7491: yes, we can go there. And there's a new LUG
in Charleroi so I think we can be both there
(22:16:57) Julius: (I'm posting something on our forum about that)
(22:17:47) jean7491: Julius, we can later consider what we can do,  ...
i probably will contact the ubuntu support points from charleroi area to
try to find volunteers ...
(22:18:23) jean7491: starting in september
(22:18:34) JanC: Sambrelug is from Charleroi, right?
(22:18:48) JanC: or from Sambreville?
(22:18:57) JanC: or something like that ツ
(22:19:20) Julius: Sambreville
(22:19:28) Julius: It's between Namur and Charleroi
(22:20:17) Julius: Here's the website of the new LUG of Charleroi :
http://clic.tuxfamily.org/
(22:20:54) Julius: DO y
(22:21:19) Julius: Do you think It will be possible to receive CD's for
this event ?
(22:21:35) Gh0sty: if it's really new please send it to this site:
http://www.belgian-lugs.be/
(22:21:39) Julius: I think we can print the other things by ourselves
(22:23:34) jean7491: cd's likely available, for other things have a look
in
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs#Print%20Documents%20&%20Presentations
to find promo things in fr.
(22:24:44) jean7491: anything else about contact with lugs ?
(22:25:06) jean7491: if not topic 3. Other events
(22:25:41) Wamukota: no input from me for topic 3
(22:26:16) mimor: nope
(22:27:39) jean7491: dipro fairs are in  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs    -  due to the 2
holiday months, volunteers for the 2 first fairs in Ghent and Antwerp
should add their names in the wiki before end of june.
(22:28:06) Gh0sty: I will add my name for ghent when I am sure I can
make it :p
(22:28:12) Gh0sty: which is in ... 2 months  ;) 
(22:29:26) mimor: same for me
(22:29:39) mimor: I'll go on holiday... but I'm not sure when ><
(22:29:59) jean7491: when in september ?
(22:30:35) mimor: not sure ><
(22:31:21) Julius: sorry but I really have to go. Be sure Sambrelug will
help more Ubuntu-be in the future. You can have a look at the discussion
we will have here if you want :
http://sambrelug.lybrafox.be/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?pid=7911 (in french)
(22:31:31) mimor: But I'll let you know Whenever I can join
(22:31:45) Julius: I will get you informed about this by the ML
(22:32:23) jean7491: Julius, you can read the report of the meeting in
the mailing list or in the wiki
(22:32:38) jean7491: Julius, bye;-)
(22:33:07) Julius: ok thanks. Good night
(22:33:08) Julius a quitté le salon (quit: "Lost terminal")
(22:33:36) Wamukota: I'm off also
(22:33:53) Wamukota: I'll read the rest on the maillist and on the wiki
(22:33:53) mimor: ok bye
(22:33:56) Wamukota: cu all
(22:34:05) Wamukota a quitté le salon (quit: "Tot laters")
(22:34:29) jean7491: about the fairs, if nobody else appears, i will
take the lead in a'pen and for the 1st time in hasselt, but not in ghent
(22:35:39) jean7491: next event 19/09 software freedom day - if
volunteers appear willing to do something, it is very good, but i don't
see a big event for ubuntu-be
(22:36:46) Gh0sty: dno if i'm not mistaken some guy from thinkwize was
running around in de veldstraat in gent dressed as pinguin handing out
ubuntu cds :p
(22:37:02) mimor: :D
(22:37:20) mimor: omg, why didn't I see that?
(22:37:29) Gh0sty: at least that was last year or the year before for
software freedom day
(22:37:49) jean7491: what is thinkwize ?
(22:38:01) Gh0sty: some IT thingy in gent somewhere
(22:38:09) JanC: company that makes & sells an open source CMS written
in Java
(22:38:16) Gh0sty: http://www.think-wize.com/
(22:38:22) JanC: DaisyCMS or something like that
(22:38:55) JanC: or is that another company
(22:39:15) Gh0sty: and I remember 3 years ago or something they also
projected the history of free and open source in de plateau cinema room
of the gent university
(22:39:28) JanC: it's another company
(22:39:30) Gh0sty: could be I don't know exactly what they do
(22:39:36) Gh0sty: they do something open source ;p
(22:41:22) jean7491: we will see if something else happens? i will try
something in oostende bibliotheek, but small event
(22:42:02) jean7491: mimor, don't forget the release party 21/11
(22:42:20) mimor: I won't
(22:42:21) JanC: 21/11 is fixed as a date?
(22:42:32) mimor: yes it is
(22:42:32) hfsdo a quitté le salon (quit: "Leaving")
(22:42:47) mimor: But you'll see things moving on the mailinglist
(22:43:23) jean7491: 21/11 was proposed last meeting report, with no
objection
(22:44:08) mimor: its 21/11, But I'm still looking for some other place
to host it
(22:44:27) jean7491: ok
(22:44:48) JanC: mimor: try the cybercafé near the Heuvelpoort?
(22:45:09) mimor: Outpost
(22:45:12) mimor: I'll ask
(22:45:15) JanC: although I quite liked the place it was last time
(22:45:22) JanC: good food  ツ
(22:45:33) JanC: that won't be true for the Outpost  :P
(22:45:36) mimor: me too, but a little classy & not enough power-supply's
(22:45:51) JanC: mimor: eh?
(22:46:06) JanC: I had several power strips with me if you needed them?
(22:46:34) mimor: There are only 2 points to tap them off
(22:46:42) JanC: so what?
(22:46:56) jean7491: mimor, we will see when you know more about
possibilities
(22:47:00) JanC: unless we blow a fuse, that doesn't matter  :P
(22:47:38) jean7491: anything else about other events ?
(22:47:42) Gh0sty: electricians present ;p
(22:47:45) mimor: It'll be the same place, but I'm just looking for a
better alternative
(22:47:57) materne a quitté le salon ("l8ter guys")
(22:48:10) Gh0sty: well on that i'd like to talk you after this meeting ;p
(22:48:48) mimor: ok
(22:49:37) jean7491: about events and the events team
(22:49:37) mimor: but I won't stay long
(22:50:00) jean7491: about the missions of the ubuntu-be events-team 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-events, there were no reaction to the
report of the last irc meeting: can we consider it as agreed ?  
(22:51:03) mimor: yup
(22:51:09) mimor: *yes
(22:51:22) Gh0sty: k
(22:52:35) jean7491: the events team (+ missions) should be added in the
wiki Responsibility (who is who)
(22:53:13) mimor: report a bug?
(22:53:42) jean7491: or direct change in the wiki
(22:54:56) jean7491: as part of the wiki update in page
belgianteam/responsibility
(22:56:18) jean7491: JanC?
(22:57:20) jean7491: no remark?
(22:58:48) jean7491: agreed as result of a silence procedure
(22:59:12) mimor: jean7491: i'm sorry, but I'm off
(22:59:26) mimor: have to get "some" sleep (have to catch up a lot of sleep)
(23:00:08) jean7491: ok mimor, bye, who remains for last topic 4.
Promotion material  ???
(23:01:47) jean7491: ok, then i work on it alone ...
(23:02:41) JanC: jean7491: anything you want to know/ask me about "topic
4" ?
(23:03:13) JanC: (I'm working on other things also...)
(23:03:36) jean7491: support posters, new posters, banner, flyers...
(23:03:59) jean7491: about support for posters?
(23:04:25) JanC: I still have to ask  :-/
(23:05:33) Gh0sty: I don't know I find if you have too much of it ... :/
(23:06:23) Gh0sty: you are talking about posters, printing flyers etc on
the mailinglist
(23:06:44) Gh0sty: but as far as I can see: JanC had still a ton of
posters, flyers are also still in the hundreds out there ...
(23:06:57) Gh0sty: shouldn't spend so much money on paper people only
read 5 seconds :/
(23:07:13) jean7491: ok support poster is for later,
(23:07:24) Indra6oc [n=indra6oc@213.219.148.43.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] a
rejoint le salon.
(23:08:03) Gh0sty: just my 2 cents
(23:08:14) jean7491: old posters : i discovered the remaining stock via
questions in the mailing list
(23:08:54) Gh0sty: and like JanC did ... could give some away :P
(23:09:21) Gh0sty: cause a) I did not know of the existence, b) I would
not pay for it c) now I have some to make some advertisement myself ;p
(23:10:09) Indra6oc: hi all
(23:10:15) jean7491: old flyers : idem as i saw 4000 flyers printed in
2007, and did the remark, and receive today an answer
(23:10:40) jean7491: hello indra
(23:11:06) Indra6oc: high, making stock of the advertising material
(23:11:12) Indra6oc: ?  O:-) 
(23:11:34) jean7491: i don't know how are the old flyers?
(23:11:44) Gh0sty: trying to inventory the current before we go and
print new ;p
(23:11:59) Indra6oc: smart move  :) 
(23:12:07) Guest95168 a quitté le salon (quit: "Ex-Chat")
(23:12:52) JanC: I think the only "old" flyers is whatever jean7491
might have left from Antwerp
(23:13:07) jean7491: no ,
(23:13:33) JanC: if anything is leftover ツ
(23:14:01) jean7491: it is about 4000 flyers printed in 2007, mark has a
few hundreds remainig (see mailing list)
(23:16:15) JanC: oh, that's probably the same old flyers I printed
myself for W-Vl then?
(23:16:37) JanC: A6-format? (A4 cut in 4)
(23:16:45) jean7491: no idea!
(23:17:16) JanC: I always printed ± 600 of them
(23:17:26) Gh0sty: which once do you mean
(23:17:46) Gh0sty: i remember seeing some flyers of ubuntu on the ubuntu
release event in hasselt or something
(23:17:47) JanC: (150 A4 recto-verso photocopies cut in 4)
(23:18:05) Gh0sty: that was with an "fill in your name" stuff ?
(23:18:15) JanC: no, not that
(23:20:02) Gh0sty: was a great idea though
(23:20:13) Gh0sty: except for the fact it did not contain an address
(23:20:34) Gh0sty: was just meant for a "leave a paper after the event
in case you want to leave contact info"
(23:21:39) jean7491: there are several proposals for new flyers with
more colors (5000 a6 for ± 80euro)
(23:21:40) JanC:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-flyer-NL-ed1-4xA6.pdf
(23:22:37) JanC: I paid 10 euro for 600 A6 B&W flyers
(23:22:55) schwarz_p
[n=schwarz_@232.226-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] a rejoint le salon.
(23:24:00) JanC: anyway, anything else left to discuss?
(23:24:08) jean7491: color, 250gr paper
(23:24:21) JanC: schwarz_p: welcome, the meeting is almost over...   :-P 
(23:25:06) jean7491: a last question, but out of the topic, about
meeting reports
(23:26:46) Indra6oc: and one about advertising material, where and how
can i get stickers  O:-) 
(23:27:09) Gh0sty: what about them jean7491 ? :/
(23:27:20) JanC: Indra6oc: I have case badges
(23:27:20) Gh0sty: I have some I think :p
(23:27:27) Gh0sty: not that I have an idea where those stickers are :x
(23:27:28) Indra6oc: yes, the powered by ubuntu thingies
(23:27:37) Gh0sty: oh no that I don't have :p
(23:28:10) Indra6oc: i install several ubuntu pc's a week (some weeks)
and i want to make em ubuntu brand
(23:28:22) JanC: Indra6oc: normally you can get them by sending me a
SAE, but if we see each other in the near future (e.g. to paint banners)
you better wait until then  ;) 
(23:29:02) JanC: Indra6oc: several a week is a lot?!
(23:29:03) Indra6oc: or we could meet up b4 somewhere in a weekend
(23:29:23) Indra6oc: did 2 or 3 last week, and this week again 2
(23:29:37) Indra6oc: i'm an active (and experienced) converter
(23:29:41) JanC: just people you know, or for a shop or what?
(23:29:54) Indra6oc: i did public buslines with maya calanders
(23:30:02) Indra6oc: mostly people i know
(23:30:04) JanC: eh?
(23:30:10) Indra6oc: they know im good with computers
(23:30:33) JanC: "kalanders" are bug that like to eat flour  :P
(23:30:37) Indra6oc: mayan cosmology, calulating peoples birtdates in
the maya calender
(23:30:53) JanC: ah
(23:30:58) JanC:  ;) 
(23:31:13) Indra6oc: it all bout awaresness
(23:31:45) Indra6oc: thru calenders of operatings systems alle bout the
light  O:-) 
(23:31:53) JanC: well, I think I have to meat jean7491 & Wamukota too
some day
(23:32:15) jean7491: proposal po paint an ubuntu banner on textile
(indra - at home in stekene) was my last part of this topic : other
volunteers?
(23:32:19) Indra6oc: yes bout meeting, where is everybody from
(23:32:31) jean7491: ostende
(23:32:47) JanC: jean7491 to get my projection screen back, and wamukota
has a PC for Ubuntu-be to use
(23:33:15) JanC: BTW: jean7491: can you use that PC from Wamukota?
(23:33:19) Indra6oc: if you want pc's i can offer some
(23:33:31) JanC: Indra6oc: actually, I have enough PCs   ;) 
(23:33:32) Indra6oc: i do recycled pc's as a hobby
(23:33:39) Indra6oc:  O:-) 
(23:33:46) JanC: almost can't store them anymore   ;) 
(23:33:51) Gh0sty: wonder if I can't snag a P4 without ram from work ...
(23:33:57) Gh0sty: needs memory thats all
(23:34:01) Indra6oc:  :) 
(23:34:12) Gh0sty: some dell crap
(23:34:26) JanC: my house is very small, so I can't store too much
(23:34:29) Indra6oc: i've got this proliant D580 lighing around
(23:34:37) Indra6oc: lying*
(23:34:55) Indra6oc: still looking for something good to put it on
(23:34:59) jean7491: JanC i've the pc Wamukota at home, but no use
(23:35:13) JanC: jean7491: use for Ubuntu events I mean
(23:35:29) JanC: if you can store it, that's fine
(23:35:42) Gh0sty: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl580/
(23:35:45) Gh0sty: this? :o
(23:35:55) Gh0sty: like some heavy paperweight? :p
(23:36:13) Indra6oc: yes
(23:36:17) Gh0sty: lol
(23:36:20) JanC: I also have a Compaq Evo with a P4 still
(23:36:21) Indra6oc: oh no similar
(23:36:23) Gh0sty: too heavy to drag around :p
(23:36:25) jean7491: JanC for the moment ok, but no screen, and my tv is
out of order
(23:36:31) Indra6oc: and quite noizy
(23:36:32) JanC: ow?
(23:36:37) Indra6oc: with 16 or more fans
(23:36:47) Indra6oc: i'v got an older one
(23:36:58) Gh0sty: lol if you want stuff like that we throw away dell
poweredge 2550 or 2600 at work ;p
(23:37:04) Indra6oc: p3 900 *4
(23:37:12) Indra6oc: 3gig of ram
(23:37:12) Gh0sty: but thats just too heavy, noisy ...
(23:37:36) jean7491: i've to leave now, next meeting, same day, same hour