IRC meeting on 07/10/2009
(20:36:49) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-10-07 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
(20:41:48) siegie [n=quassel@unaffiliated/siegie] a rejoint le salon.
(21:01:26) jean7491: hi to all, who is here for the weekly meeting ?
(21:01:48) ***schwarz_p is here for the meeting
(21:01:57) ***hfsdo to
(21:04:42) jean7491: hello schwarz_p, hfsdo, .... siegie ? pvandewyngaerde ? Gh0sty ? JanC ? yanu ?
(21:05:55) JanC: o/
(21:06:04) siegie: jean7491: Good evening
(21:06:45) jean7491: hello JanC, siegie
(21:09:41) jean7491: pvandewyngaerde ? Gh0sty ? yanu ?
(21:10:31) pvandewyngaerde: ja ?
(21:10:52) jean7491: hello pieter, ....let's start, hoping others will join !
(21:11:14) jean7491: topic 1. past and future events, topic 2. promotion material, topic 3. things living in the mailing list
(21:11:29) jean7491: topic 1. past and future events
(21:12:02) pvandewyngaerde: future event ? something planned for oostende ?
(21:12:22) jean7491: pieter wait ! dipro kortrijk 04/10 - report ? JanC, schwartz_p, yanu ? 
(21:12:59) schwarz_p: The fair wasn't that big, but a lot of people showed interest in our booth
(21:13:55) schwarz_p: Even some very specific questions were asked, from people whom already use Ubuntu, or try to :)
(21:14:30) schwarz_p: But I'm still writing on the report. It should be finished & uploaded tomorrow
(21:15:15) jean7491: ok, thanks ! do you (or someone else) pictures to add ?
(21:15:30) jean7491: have pictures ...
(21:15:39) schwarz_p: I don't but I believe Lieven has...
(21:16:25) jean7491: ok, please ask him to post some pics
(21:16:34) schwarz_p: I will
(21:16:44) jean7491: JanC comments ?
(21:17:32) jean7491: thanks to the volunteers in dipro kortrijk !
(21:17:46) jean7491: Next events in October (Dipro Charleroi, Ostend, Oostmalle) 
(21:18:11) jean7491: dipro charleroi 11/10 - in charge cedric - so far i know today, preparation is going well
(21:18:34) jean7491: dipro ostend 18/10 - in charge jean7491 ...
(21:19:30) jean7491: unfortunatly matthew is not available, ... we need at least 2 or 3 volunteers for the booth
(21:19:56) jean7491: for the moment, i am alone for the booth
(21:20:51) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ostende_2009-10-18
(21:21:33) yanu: jean7491: where can i post some 'quickly taken' pics ?
(21:21:58) JanC: wiki?
(21:23:16) JanC: jean7491: I'll probably be available for Ostend, but I'd love to see "new faces" ツ
(21:23:56) jean7491: yanu : first reduce the wheight and then add it as attached doc to the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2009-10-04, once done, you or i can modify the wiki page for the link to pics
(21:24:19) schwarz_p: I'm occupied almost every Sunday, because I have to go to the Chiro. Sorry
(21:25:04) hfsdo: for me it's way to far to do as i have to get to the other side of the country after it
(21:25:04) jean7491: JanC : thanks, me too i love new faces, but the person i found is traveling in china !
(21:25:32) JanC: heh :P
(21:25:49) schwarz_p: CHina is a bit far to quickly return
(21:26:24) jean7491: schwarz_p, hfsdo, no problem, we can not expect everybody available for all events !
(21:26:49) jean7491: nobody has to justify why he is not available!
(21:28:14) jean7491: JanC : i tried support points in bredene (2), with 1 answer (but negative at this tome) ...
(21:28:59) JanC: and Alain said he would maybe come but probably not
(21:29:20) jean7491: there is still the possibility to request for help support points around brugge ?
(21:30:14) JanC: around Bruges, Torhout, Gistel, Diksmuide, Nieuwpoort, whatever ツ
(21:30:48) jean7491: and to ask pieter pvandewyngaerde as he like to see ostend
(21:32:14) jean7491: i will start a call to support points, but i don't expect more than 5% answers
(21:35:49) JanC: :-/
(21:36:37) jean7491: ok, next event dipro oostmalle 25/10
(21:36:48) JanC: yanu: if the wiki doesn't work today, try tomorrow (I know it was broken some time ago & Canonical sysadmins were working on it)
(21:38:10) jean7491: call for help was posted in the mailing list and through personal messages, ...
(21:38:50) jean7491: no reaction in the m-l, 1 volunteer through personal contact, ...
(21:39:06) siegie: I can be available, I've already subscribed to the wiki page
(21:39:35) jean7491: yes thanks siegie, i saw, but we still need 3 volunteers ... perhaps a call for help in ubuntu-nl forum ?
(21:40:23) jean7491: siegie, are you active in ubuntu-nl forum to post a call ?
(21:40:58) siegie: jean7491: sure
(21:41:18) jean7491: you do it ?
(21:41:25) siegie: yes
(21:43:26) jean7491: thanks ! i found 1 possible volunteer from lier area for a half dipro (max 4 hrs), but we still need 3 additional persons
(21:43:54) yanu: sorry, i cannot help in ostend
(21:43:55) selckin [n=selckin@unaffiliated/axxo] a rejoint le salon.
(21:45:46) jean7491: yanu,, as i said before, no problem, not possible to be allways everywhere !
(21:45:57) JanC: siegie: maybe also call for the other fairs during the next months
(21:45:58) BlackDes1gn [i=henne@madoka.isw.student.khleuven.be] a rejoint le salon.
(21:47:22) jean7491: next are dipro ghent 08/11 and dipro antwerpen 29/11
(21:47:28) siegie: JanC: Oostende, oostmalle, gent?
(21:48:41) JanC: t.e.m. mechelen desnoods
(21:49:02) BlackDes1gn: Leuk om te weten dat er een belgen kanaal is :)
(21:49:37) jean7491: siegie, in december genk, 06/12/2009 and mechelen, 13/12/2009: 
(21:49:46) JanC: H&C-dagen in A'pen is a lot more expensive, we need to decide if we will do a booth there
(21:50:15) jean7491: the 2 days in februari ?
(21:50:51) JanC: BlackDes1gn: welcome, we're having an ubuntu-be meeting and are discussing finding volunteers for our computer fair booths ;)
(21:51:26) Gh0sty: zuhause!
(21:51:30) Gh0sty: present! :p
(21:51:35) Gh0sty: wel wa te laat :o
(21:51:50) JanC: BlackDes1gn: can we chinese-volunteer you too? ツ
(21:51:53) BlackDes1gn: computer fair booths?
(21:53:59) jean7491: BlackDes1gn: yes fairs in oostmalle 25/10, ghent 08/11, antwerp 29/11, genk 06/12 and mechelen 13/12, 
(21:54:01) JanC: stands at dipro computer fairs, where we promote Ubuntu
(21:54:35) JanC: the "micro mega market" fairs
(21:55:19) BlackDes1gn: Sounds interesting... But not sure if I would be a great technical help ;)
(21:55:49) BlackDes1gn: and the last months of this year will be quite busy :)
(21:55:59) jean7491: description of the fairs is here : http://www.dipro.be/benl/micro_mega_market
(21:56:22) BlackDes1gn: last year of studying to look forward too :p
(21:56:30) jean7491: it is up to you !
(21:56:38) BlackDes1gn: any fairs after december?
(21:57:06) jean7491: for the moment not known yet
(21:57:59) BlackDes1gn: JanC: en waarom is de discussie gaande in het Engels in een 'be' kanaal? :p
(21:58:52) jean7491: wait with the question, we continue the meeting and feel free to come back on this channel wednesday 21 h. 
(21:59:03) jean7491: Next events in November (Dipro Ghent, Release Party, Dipro Antwerp) 
(21:59:14) JanC: BlackDes1gn: discussing in Dutch, French & German intermixed is a bit complicated...
(21:59:22) jean7491: dipro fair in ghent 08/11
(21:59:44) jean7491: volunteers, please add your name in the wiki, 2 names are already in
(21:59:58) siegie: jean7491: forum post. done
(22:00:16) jean7491: siegie thanks !
(22:01:08) JanC: BlackDes1gn: and it's mostly about promoting Ubuntu, not about technical stuff
(22:02:06) BlackDes1gn: JanC: Ok if there would be fairs after february, I would love to hear about them... I could lend you guys a hand (if you would like that)
(22:04:35) jean7491: BlackDes1gn : thanks ... Gh0sty : check in your agenda for dipro 08/11 + release party 21/11
(22:05:15) JanC: BlackDes1gn: if you hang around here or follow the mailing list, you'll hear about future events
(22:05:38) Gh0sty: dipro stond der al in maar das nog GEEN bevestiging!
(22:05:45) Gh0sty: want ...
(22:05:46) Gh0sty: ff zien
(22:05:52) Gh0sty: der viel iets samen met da weekend ...
(22:06:04) BlackDes1gn est désormais connu sous le nom de BlackDesign
(22:06:15) Gh0sty: ahnee tis tweekend derop niets gezegd ... :)
(22:06:27) Gh0sty: en release party waar?
(22:07:01) jean7491: this is the next question ... release party in ghent 21/11
(22:07:02) SkyNETbbs [i=5e6e73fb@gateway/web/freenode/x-whwlawfwbafjnybg] a rejoint le salon.
(22:07:20) jean7491: we have to start the preparation of the release party in october and we need volunteers help for the organization/preparation of the party ...
(22:07:33) jean7491: but mimor is not online ...
(22:07:50) jean7491: mike (mimor) will need help to set-up the party
(22:08:23) jean7491: first question : what do we want ? meet and greet, presentations/speaches by who? about what ?, workshop with computers ? ...
(22:08:42) jean7491: what do you think about ?
(22:09:32) schwarz_p: normally I'm free to volunteer at the party
(22:09:35) JanC: I'd say meet & greet is the minimum, other things if we can find volunteers
(22:10:38) yanu: pictures on the wiki, dipro kortrijk
(22:10:47) JanC: yanu: thanks!
(22:11:05) schwarz_p: I agree with JanC, but at least 1 presentation would be cool
(22:12:16) schwarz_p: thinking about a subject...
(22:12:46) JanC: presentations would certainly be cool
(22:13:16) schwarz_p: i'm thinkg 'bout the RP in Hasselt 6month ago
(22:13:28) schwarz_p: There was a live dual-boot installation
(22:13:58) schwarz_p: And a funny movie with the differences between installing Windows & Ubuntu on a PC
(22:14:15) SkyNETbbs: @Yanu watching them right now :-)
(22:14:44) JanC: which reminds me, a computer club from Deerlijk (not so far from Kortrijk) asked us to do an Ubuntu-presentation in the future
(22:14:47) schwarz_p: maybe we can do something about cool games on Ubuntu
(22:15:01) JanC: somewhere in the near future I mean
(22:15:21) JanC: schwarz_p: do you want to do that?
(22:15:32) schwarz_p: I'd like to
(22:15:38) schwarz_p: But a collegue would be cool
(22:16:05) schwarz_p: I think I mail some support point nearby
(22:16:25) SkyNETbbs: I mailed this computerclub@Deerlijk monday morning...they haven't yet replied back
(22:16:35) JanC: I don't game much beyond patience, Mahjongg & sudoku ;)
(22:17:09) schwarz_p: I'm thinking about OpenArena, SuperTux, maybe DosBox...
(22:17:21) jean7491: if we have enough public, we could ask presentations from firms related to ubuntu : linux-service, alupcs (rent computers with ubuntu), and s.o. ... 
(22:17:34) JanC: schwarz_p: don't forget Armagetron etc.
(22:17:49) JanC: jean7491: good point
(22:18:00) JanC: jean7491: and maybe other companies that use Ubuntu
(22:18:05) JanC: or schools
(22:18:44) JanC: hm, but if we have a lot of talks & more people show up, the last year venue won't be big enough...
(22:19:15) JanC: maybe ask Martine for help from the city? ;)
(22:19:24) jean7491: for example alupcs proposed 5 pc for the party, we can ask a presentation ...
(22:20:54) jean7491: again, who will be in charge ? mimor alone can't do everything !
(22:21:56) schwarz_p: I would like to work it out, toghether with mimor.
(22:23:04) jean7491: schartz_p: thanks, and i suggest apart from the irc report, i will post a call in the m-l for ideas and proposals for the RP
(22:23:51) schwarz_p: good idea
(22:24:57) nero1 [n=nero@62.235.143.66] a rejoint le salon.
(22:25:22) jean7491: schwarz_p you could contact mike via mail to discuss it
(22:25:41) schwarz_p: could you email it to me? I don't have it
(22:25:58) jean7491: ok
(22:26:08) JanC: if we make it "bigger", we need a bigger venue, we need to talk with Mike about that
(22:27:40) jean7491: indeed
(22:27:49) jean7491: next item ?
(22:28:11) jean7491: dipro fair antwerp 29/11 
(22:28:30) jean7491: olunteers, please add your name in the wiki, 2 names are already in
(22:29:01) jean7491: and i found a 3d one, a coordinator ...
(22:29:37) selckin a quitté le salon (quit: Client Quit)
(22:29:52) jean7491: so it is going on ...
(22:30:20) jean7491: and we have time (29/11)
(22:30:52) jean7491: it is done for events, next topic is promotion material
(22:31:57) jean7491: we have new posters and flyers, several presentations, and s.o. others ideas for promotion material?
(22:33:05) schwarz_p: a question: were can I rder Ubuntu-case-stickers?
(22:33:08) schwarz_p: *order
(22:34:15) jean7491: stickers "powered by ubuntu" ?
(22:34:52) schwarz_p: yup
(22:35:12) JanC: schwarz_p: I had them with me last sunday...
(22:35:26) schwarz_p: lap
(22:35:40) schwarz_p: But I'd also like some, for installations I do as a support point
(22:35:42) JanC: http://system76.com/article_info.php?articles_id=9#belgium
(22:36:26) schwarz_p: I'll send an envelop
(22:36:26) JanC: or maybe at the release party if you can wait that long
(22:36:35) JanC: 2 enveloppes ;)
(22:36:39) BlackDesign: Ow, those stickers look cool!
(22:36:46) schwarz_p: I'm not that patienced :D
(22:37:14) JanC: I just got a new roll of those stickers
(22:39:29) SkyNETbbs: the ubuntu key sticker looks nice :-)
(22:40:41) JanC: I don't have key stickers (those are only for the US)
(22:40:49) jean7491: schwarz_p : you have the choice, 2 envelops through the post or dipro ostend
(22:41:00) jean7491: ;-)
(22:41:41) jean7491: a few words about event boxes 
(22:42:14) jean7491: i still do not know who is now in charge of ghent event box ?
(22:42:36) JanC: dieter should know that
(22:43:32) SkyNETbbs: so sending 2 envelopes to the usa wont work?
(22:44:16) jean7491: dieter was supposed to handover the box to kenneth (?) but it did not happend
(22:45:27) jean7491: and i have no news from ghent !
(22:45:29) JanC: SkyNETbbs: only if you have a US postal stamp for international mail...
(22:46:29) JanC: BTW: be sure both the outside & inside enveloppe have stamps on them (I don't sponsor people who can't read ;) )
(22:46:56) SkyNETbbs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200767 : We're not shipping them internationally, yet. However, you should contact your LoCo...
(22:47:56) jean7491: SkyNETbbs: please wait the end of the meeting for your questions !
(22:48:02) jean7491: no news from ghent box ! .... with the multiplication of events in antwerp area, an event box there could be useful
(22:48:38) jean7491: i started to discuss it with people from antwerp area ...
(22:48:55) jean7491: 1st question: who accepts the box at home ? ...
(22:49:20) jean7491: 2d question: the content of the box, hardware ?, promo material ? (not a problem), other material ? ...
(22:50:34) pvandewyngaerde a quitté le salon (quit: Remote closed the connection)
(22:51:26) jean7491: i have 1 pc all-in-one and a desktop p4 (without screen) available, but need 1 screen, preferably lcd screen
(22:52:44) jean7491: and additional material like a4 stands (to fix a4sheet of paper), ...
(22:52:54) hfsdo_ [n=hfsdo@d54C1B664.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
(22:53:05) schwarz_p: Whatfor is the eventbox? I don't really get it, I think
(22:53:14) hfsdo a quitté le salon (quit: Nick collision from services.)
(22:53:24) hfsdo_ est désormais connu sous le nom de hfsdo
(22:53:46) JanC: schwarz_p: it's a box with stuff for booths like last sunday
(22:54:03) schwarz_p: ah, okay
(22:54:12) schwarz_p: now I get it.
(22:54:45) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Eventbox for the ideas
(22:55:41) jean7491: i'll post later a request for material in the m-l
(22:55:48) JanC: just to get a box of the basic stuff in different places, so that not everybody has to go to e.g. Ostend to get something :P
(22:56:36) jean7491: next topic ?
(22:56:50) jean7491: topic 3. things living in the mailing list 
(22:57:07) jean7491: Support points ?
(22:57:26) jean7491: questions about the reliability and the update of the list/map ...
(22:57:45) jean7491: in july, jurgen observed less than 50 % responses to help request ...
(22:57:53) schwarz_p: The best, but hardest way would be to email them all...
(22:58:23) jean7491: in the last days, i received transmission of requests for support which did not succeed ....
(22:58:39) jean7491: it is a negative image of ubuntu community, we have to do something ...
(22:59:05) schwarz_p: I saw this negative image in the mails you FW to me this week
(22:59:13) schwarz_p: It's indeed a big point
(22:59:20) jean7491: but how to do ? ...
(22:59:42) jean7491: and who in charge ?
(23:00:27) schwarz_p: isn't there an easy way to email all the points (like from a db extract with all the adresses in it?)
(23:01:07) schwarz_p: and then make them resubscribe themselves if they wish to continue, otherwise they will be deleted?
(23:01:28) jean7491: yes, i suppose, a sort of reactivation mail
(23:01:48) jean7491: already suggested in july by jurgen
(23:02:44) schwarz_p: but indeed the big question is how...
(23:02:57) JanC: Pierre can extract the database and/or send a mail to all people in the database
(23:03:08) jean7491: but i read in the wiki the development of the map is halted
(23:03:32) jean7491: wiki who/responsibilities
(23:04:35) jean7491: can we use the bug report procedure to handle this problem and make suggestions ?
(23:04:36) JanC: hm
(23:04:59) JanC: maybe we need a new map software
(23:06:40) JanC: I'll talk to one of the developers who make the drupal modules we use, maybe he knows if they are working on something like that
(23:07:01) JanC: (to replace the current map software)
(23:07:46) jean7491: i don't know the technical problem, i started with the form for new support points: add a periodical review and a question about participation/help to other ubuntu-be events
(23:09:15) jean7491: the 2d step a mail for "reactivation" of the points, adding my question about other events-help
(23:11:37) jean7491: JanC : hoping for progress, we can not tolerate a negative image of our community promotional argument !
(23:11:49) schwarz_p: true
(23:15:23) jean7491: other questions ???
(23:15:43) ***schwarz_p has no other questions
(23:16:22) jean7491: before my last question : next meeting ? proposed on 14/10/2009 at 21 h. 
(23:17:04) JanC: k
(23:17:05) schwarz_p: ok for me
(23:17:28) jean7491: thanks to everybody who took part to the meeting !