IRC meeting 04/11
(13:44:48) #ubuntu-be: Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-11-04 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
(21:00:38) jean7491: Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
(21:01:25) LarsB: I wanna listen :)
(21:02:27) jean7491: hello LarsB :)
(21:02:35) LarsB: Hi jean7491 :)
(21:06:15) |mantas| [n=ubuntu@ip-81-11-224-15.dsl.scarlet.be] a rejoint le salon.
(21:08:46) JanC: o/
(21:09:10) JanC: I will have to pick up my parents later (around 22h probably) though
(21:09:15) LarsB: oi JanC :)
(21:09:21) jean7491: hello JanC, ok
(21:10:46) LarsB: How can i register myself in the ubuntu-be team on launchpad?
(21:15:54) jean7491: LarsB: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be
(21:16:00) JanC: normally there is a button for that?
(21:16:20) LarsB: Thank you :)
(21:16:32) ***selckin laughs at languages
(21:16:42) LarsB: request is awaiting approval :p
(21:17:08) jean7491: LarsB: you spoke about limburghall, are from genk area? 
(21:17:17) Carroarmato0: kheb mezelf ook toegevoegd
(21:17:18) LarsB: yes
(21:17:32) LarsB: From As, about 5 minutes away from Genk
(21:17:43) jean7491: interested to participate with ubuntu-be in the dipro fair on 06/12? we are looking for volunteers!
(21:17:54) LarsB: yeah sure :)
(21:18:24) jean7491: ok, send me a pm with your email
(21:18:25) JanC: there should also be somebody with fair experience though
(21:18:56) JanC: maybe soem of the people from Hasselt?
(21:19:21) jean7491: i likely have other names, but to be confirmed
(21:20:57) LarsB: Is there a reason we are talking English? :p
(21:22:22) JanC: people in be speak nl, fr or de as their native language, but most speak also en
(21:22:37) LarsB: ah k :)
(21:23:23) jean7491: this irc meeting will be short !
(21:23:51) JanC: yep, IRC meeting for Gent is tomorrow, so we don't have to discuss that
(21:24:00) jean7491: topic 1. past and future events 
(21:24:00) jean7491: dipro oostmalle 25/10 - report is added in the wiki
(21:24:31) jean7491: dipro fair in ghent 08/11 - IRC coordination tomorrow 05/11 at 21.00 h. with kenneth
(21:25:11) jean7491: next planned event : release party in ghent 21/11
(21:25:51) jean7491: without volunteers to organize it, we have to cancel the release party! any comment ?
(21:27:03) LarsB: What do you do on a release party? Show 9.10 and give free cd's or?
(21:27:43) JanC: whatever the organiser organises ;)
(21:28:30) JanC: but if we want to do a large one with presentations etc., it needs to be planned early enough...
(21:30:35) jean7491: can we first decide what about the rp planned on 21/11: we have possible sponsors, but no organization team : imho it is time to cancel it !
(21:31:29) JanC: I would have canceled last week already...
(21:32:00) jean7491: if no other comment, it is now cancelled
(21:33:03) jean7491: and looking for the future, we could start thinking about a release party for 10
(21:33:16) jean7491: 10.04
(21:33:28) JanC: yep
(21:33:33) LarsB: Yes :)
(21:33:40) jean7491: as 10.04 is lts
(21:33:56) LarsB: Will it still be in Ghent?
(21:35:34) jean7491: no, it has to be decided where by an organization team we should constitute with volunteers
(21:36:46) jean7491: to continue with events in november : dipro fair antwerp on 29/11
(21:37:46) jean7491: preparation is on track ... i solved the problem to move material from ostend to antwerp
(21:38:29) JanC: good
(21:38:58) jean7491: next week we will add in the future events the dipro fairs (december) in genk and mechelen
(21:39:48) jean7491: next topic : 2. promotion material - event boxes and other ideas
(21:40:18) JanC: as said before, 400 official CDs arrived
(21:40:40) LarsB: Sweet :)
(21:40:49) LarsB: I can't get even 1 :p
(21:41:16) jean7491: nice, :)
(21:41:22) JanC: I have been thinking (just an idea for now) about having ubuntu-be CDs or DVDs pressed for 10.04
(21:41:35) JanC: but we would need sponsors for that ;)
(21:41:45) LarsB: how you mean "pressed"?
(21:42:19) JanC: that's how official CDs are made ;)
(21:42:27) JanC: no CD-Rs
(21:42:49) LarsB: But then without the casings? Or let them get pressed to?
(21:42:52) JanC: I'd be happy to make a customised CD/DVD .iso (like I did for last LTS)
(21:43:18) LarsB: customised iso? What did you edit?
(21:43:25) JanC: putting them in hard paper sleeve
(21:43:50) JanC: include Dutch translations for everything
(21:44:10) jean7491: and frnch and german?
(21:44:21) jean7491: french and german?
(21:44:29) guydup [n=guydup@d51530769.static.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
(21:44:32) JanC: those are already complete IIRC, but yes
(21:44:36) LarsB: I can help with the dutch part, but don't know how to make an custom iso
(21:44:52) JanC: if I need to customise more, I'd probably need a DVD
(21:45:19) JanC: it's just adding/removing packages fro mthe default install ;)
(21:45:59) jean7491: hello guydup :)
(21:46:33) guydup: hello
(21:47:31) LarsB: brb
(21:48:32) jean7491: can we speak now about proposed meeting Digipolis on Openbaar Computer Ruimtes in ghent ?
(21:49:43) jean7491: digipolis ghent sent me an invitation to participate to a meeting about ocr in ghent ...
(21:50:54) jean7491: with the possibility to present social and free software : is there someone in ghent interested to participate to this meeting ?
(21:52:11) guydup: i do not if i will be invited as commercial business, but i did offer them a free multiseat test machine
(21:53:31) jean7491: in their agenda, i see "Multidesk" : is it multiseat ?
(21:53:47) guydup: do not know
(21:54:30) JanC: probably just written it wrong...
(21:55:22) jean7491: non speaking about business, i think digipolis is a good contact we should improve in ghent!
(21:55:31) guydup: can be
(21:56:24) JanC: well, that person inside Digipolis, otherwise they are all Microsoft AFAIK ☺
(21:57:07) jean7491: but we first need a more active team in ghent
(21:57:24) guydup: what is the meaning of the meeting?
(21:58:32) jean7491: i just read the mail from digipolis on ocr meeting, i don't know more
(21:58:59) JanC: in Ghent? I think they need to convince all those little non-profits to move to 1 common ICT organisation
(21:59:12) LarsB: AFAIK?
(21:59:38) JanC: LarsB: As Far As I Know
(21:59:47) LarsB: ah ok :)
(22:00:18) JanC: well, some are from the OCMW, others are from VZWs
(22:02:21) jean7491: firstly we need to be present, despite other factors!
(22:02:34) guydup: oh, i see the mail wass cc to info@multiseat.be, that is the competition.Ok.
(22:02:54) jean7491: ;-)
(22:03:41) Enissay [n=Enissay@unaffiliated/enissay] a rejoint le salon.
(22:03:51) jean7491: the topic could be discussed during the dipro ghent, if possible
(22:04:40) JanC: guydup: maybe you should mail her, as you talked to her before
(22:05:27) JanC: I guess there is a lot of confusion when people have both of them in their addressbook
(22:06:08) jean7491: coming back to the agenda of the meeting - topic 2. promotion material - event boxes and other ideas
(22:06:23) jean7491: about event boxes, we still need 2 lcd screens (1 for antwerp, 1 for ghent)
(22:06:52) jean7491: and with the arrival of karmic koala, the promotion material will be updated in the wiki.
(22:07:30) LarsB: Event boxes are boxes that are packed for fairs?
(22:08:19) jean7491: yes, for now 1 in ghent and a 2d one next week in antwerp
(22:09:08) LarsB: whats in them? Computers too? Or just promotional products?
(22:09:51) jean7491: both + what you need for a booth : for dipro hasselt in september, i brought material from ostend!
(22:10:26) guydup: maybe,will send her mail,
(22:12:06) jean7491: guydup: about this meeting, i am first fooking for someone from ghent to take initiative! wait and see! still hoping!
(22:13:11) LarsB: you have enough people for ghent?
(22:14:18) JanC: LarsB: I think so
(22:14:24) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2009-11-08 probably yes
(22:14:36) JanC: Gh0sty: how's the mexican flu?
(22:15:00) guydup: it's not the first time someone sends a mail to the competitor's mail adress.That was his goal with getting this domain
(22:15:01) LarsB: he got the swineflu? xD
(22:15:04) JanC: (or: will you be at the fair in ghent?)
(22:15:20) Gh0sty: ik vrees dervoor
(22:15:25) Gh0sty: ik zal wel eens passeren als koper
(22:15:39) Gh0sty: en mss wa blijven plakken maar kan niet heel den dag der zijn :(
(22:15:51) JanC: 's morgens wel?
(22:16:23) JanC: tot 10-13h is het drukste vaak
(22:16:31) siegie [n=quassel@unaffiliated/siegie] a rejoint le salon.
(22:16:39) JanC: anyway, I have to go pick up my parents
(22:16:56) JanC: will read the backlog when I'm back ☺
(22:16:57) jean7491: ok jan, bye
(22:17:10) jean7491: with the arrival of karmic koala, the promotion material will be updated in the wiki.
(22:17:24) LarsB: Can I have 1 cd btw?
(22:18:36) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs - see last paragraph and feel free to comment the products 
(22:19:29) jean7491: LarsB : did you ask to shipit?
(22:19:42) LarsB: yes, can't get one
(22:20:02) LarsB: because they are bussy or something, or the high demand
(22:22:29) jean7491: first you need a launchpad registration, then ask it, it can be long, but just wait! for original cd. otherwise download it and burn it 
(22:22:56) LarsB: Where can you ask it on launchpad? Or is that shipit?
(22:23:34) jean7491: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
(22:24:14) LarsB: Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, an ...
(22:24:34) jean7491: yes, but just ask ...
(22:24:42) s3v [n=s3v@unaffiliated/s3v] a rejoint le salon.
(22:24:46) LarsB: where can you ask?
(22:25:51) jean7491: below the shipit page there is a form to be filled in
(22:26:22) LarsB: not here :s
(22:30:35) t00r a quitté le salon (quit: Remote closed the connection)
(22:31:48) Gh0sty: nee omgekeerd eerder laat dan vroeg ... :/
(22:32:42) JanC: jean7491: we'll need other ways to get CDs I fear...
(22:32:43) Carroarmato0: iemand die ervaring heeft met Netwerk Manager ---> Bluetooth ---> Gsm ----> Mobile Vikings ?
(22:33:07) bbartek a quitté le salon (quit: "Ik ga weg")
(22:33:08) LarsB: JanC, how do you mean?
(22:34:06) JanC: we can ask for CDs as a locoteam, not individuals anymore, and I'm not sure if and how many extra we can get (and for what occasion)
(22:34:32) JanC: well, individuals can ask once I think, so if you asked in the past...
(22:34:47) JanC: Carroarmato0: try #ubuntu-nl
(22:35:09) Carroarmato0: JanC, thx
(22:35:34) Carroarmato0: ow
(22:35:46) Carroarmato0: JanC, Mobile Vikings is a Belgian provider :)
(22:35:57) Carroarmato0: not sure they'll be able to help that much :)
(22:36:23) JanC: it's the hardware & software that matters, not the provider
(22:36:37) JanC: plus, there are lot's of Belgians there
(22:37:03) Carroarmato0: thx I'll try
(22:37:04) JanC: plus, we're in a meeting now ;)
(22:37:37) jean7491: Are there other questions for the meeting ?
(22:37:54) JanC: LarsB: if you do the Genk meeting, we'll try to get CDs to Genk though
(22:38:13) LarsB: ok :)
(22:38:30) LarsB: Well I hope there is an other volenteer then xD
(22:38:48) LarsB: Cause alone is kinda ... alone
(22:38:55) JanC: preferably at least 3 volunteers
(22:39:08) JanC: I don't know how big that event hall is?
(22:39:15) LarsB: I'ts not that big
(22:39:32) LarsB: depends on what hall they use, there is a big and a small one
(22:40:56) guydup a quitté le salon (quit: "Java user signed off")
(22:42:06) JanC: multiple volunteers is needed anyway because you don't want to leave your hardware etc. behind when you need to pee or something
(22:42:57) jean7491: i'll try next week to contact people around hasselt and more, i am optimistic about other volunteers (at least a team of 4)
(22:43:51) LarsB: that would be nice :)
(22:44:11) jean7491: LarsB, i will inform you about progress, ...
(22:44:18) LarsB: ok, thx :)
(22:44:29) LarsB: Going to buy me a ubuntu t-shirt then xD
(22:44:57) LarsB: https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=541
(22:44:59) LarsB: awesome xD
(22:45:23) jean7491: with likely a problem to move promo-material (and hardware?) to genk!
(22:46:17) jean7491: from antwerp to genk? or ostend/brugge/ghent to genk?
(22:46:57) LarsB: I can drive to Antwerp
(22:47:05) LarsB: to pick it up
(22:47:15) LarsB: I c you can buy the cd's now in the ubuntu shop
(22:47:50) JanC: you can buy them for years already
(22:48:09) LarsB: i thought only the dvd's
(22:48:56) JanC: DVDs were on Amazon, not sure they still sell them
(22:49:24) jean7491: to close the official part of the meeting : next meeting ? proposed on 11/11/2009 at 21 h. 
(22:52:12) jean7491: JanC : about the cd's: we have +/- 8 to 10 events till end of april: so approx. 40 by event?
(22:53:15) JanC: only 250 of them are Ubuntu, also 75 of Kubuntu & Server each
(22:54:21) jean7491: you wrote about 400 cd's?
(22:55:22) LarsB: 250+75+75
(22:55:50) jean7491: :-D
(22:57:08) LarsB: I can buy 2 20packs for genk
(22:59:36) jean7491: JanC material for antwerp will leave ostend friday evening: are you perhaps coming before to ostend to bring me cd's for a'pen and genk?
(23:04:18) LarsB: jean7491: What kind of pc's do those boxes contain?
(23:07:12) JanC: jean7491: how is it going to Antwerp?
(23:08:09) jean7491: with family coming from a'pen on visit 1 day
(23:09:05) JanC: hm, they can also pick it up at my place or I can come to a motorway exit by the time they pass Bruges?
(23:09:58) JanC: maybe not ask them to pick it up at my place in case they don't find it ;)
(23:10:25) jean7491: i can not send the 4 persons in brugge, and i don't know when they leave in the evening
(23:12:30) jean7491: perhaps through alain coming to ostend?
(23:13:48) jean7491: if he comes friday with the cd's, i can meet him ...
(23:14:38) jean7491: in this case you have to bring him the cd's on thursday evening
(23:16:34) jean7491: JanC ? is it possible ?
(23:22:57) jean7491: JanC ?
(23:23:31) JanC: jean7491: that would work
(23:24:37) JanC: hm, how many should I take?
(23:26:14) jean7491: ok, please send a mail to alain to fix it in brugge - i think 25/event 1 a'pen 2009, 1 a'pen 2010, 1genk 2009 = 75 
(23:26:49) LarsB: I think that is enough :) If we need more we can always burn at the fair
(23:27:04) JanC: jean7491: eh, A'pen 2010 is a larger more expensive fair?
(23:27:29) jean7491: i think dipro fair, not hobby dagen
(23:28:31) JanC: we have 350 euros for a booth? ;)
(23:28:31) LarsB: does the booth cost 350 euro to rent? Or is that the budget?
(23:28:32) JanC: that's for a booth at the Hobby & Microcomputerdagen (2 days)
(23:28:51) LarsB: I wanna be there xD
(23:28:52) JanC: for Genk it will be only 38 euro
(23:29:10) JanC: which you should be able to cover mostly by gifts ;)
(23:29:27) LarsB: Who pays that? The LoCo or the vulonteers?
(23:29:55) JanC: jean7491: "Antwerpen (Hobby & Computerdagen), 20/02/2010 - 21/02/2010" is 295 euro ex. BTW for a booth
(23:30:18) jean7491: JanC :not Hobby days, but i see dipro fair was on may 24th
(23:30:39) JanC: hm, new dates aren't known yet?
(23:30:52) jean7491: so if same calendar only 2 events !
(23:31:08) jean7491: = 50 cd's
(23:31:21) JanC: well, May = Lucid CDs ;)
(23:31:52) jean7491: yes, only a'pen and genk 2009 = 50 de's
(23:32:00) jean7491: cd's
(23:32:08) JanC: they will all be gone after A'pen ;)
(23:32:22) JanC: hm, what about Mechelen?
(23:33:12) jean7491: no, the stock 50 in a'pen will be in 2 parts, 1 (25) reserved for genk
(23:33:49) jean7491: mechelen, we see later (next week)
(23:35:16) jean7491: i have to stop, i'll send more info to larsb tomorrow (irc after the coordination or email) ... 
(23:35:36) LarsB: ok :)
(23:35:45) jean7491: JanC: contact alain about the cd's
(23:36:32) JanC: jean7491: I was thinking A'pen <-> Mechelen is not far
(23:36:35) alexis_ [n=alexis@ip-213-49-245-248.dsl.scarlet.be] a rejoint le salon.
(23:37:18) jean7491: then add 25 (jurgen is on the list in a'pen)
(23:37:28) alexis_ a quitté le salon
(23:39:04) jean7491: ok for 75 ?
(23:39:59) jean7491: JanC: ok for 75 ?
(23:41:49) jean7491: have a good night :)
(23:41:58) LarsB: good night :)
(23:42:13) JanC: sorry, peopel need me in 3 places at the same time :-/
(23:42:41) JanC: jean7491: jurgen will do the Mechelen fair?
(23:43:06) jean7491: no idea? but i have to leave !
(23:43:53) jean7491: bye