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   1 (20:18:37) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-01-20 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   2 (21:02:35) JanC: I think the meeting should start now ☺
   3 (21:02:38) jean7491: Hi to all, can we start the meeting ? 
   4 (21:02:54) nero_ [n=nero@ip-81-11-228-181.dsl.scarlet.be] a rejoint le salon.
   5 (21:02:54) mimor: yes
   6 (21:03:00) jean7491: and who is here for this meeting ?
   7 (21:03:07) nero_: present
   8 (21:03:14) hfsdo: present
   9 (21:03:15) pvandewyngaerde: me
  10 (21:03:19) mimor: mimor
  11 (21:03:42) pvandewyngaerde: bbartek yanu Gh0sty ?
  12 (21:04:38) mimor: ap. not
  13 (21:04:47) JanC: jean7491: do you have a CC ?
  14 (21:05:37) mimor: JanC, I assume that we can buy ubuntu T-shirts on Fosdem?
  15 (21:05:44) XiaoShiZi: +1
  16 (21:06:17) XiaoShiZi: present (+1)
  17 (21:06:46) JanC: mimor: only if I can order them ;)
  18 (21:07:00) mimor: :)
  19 (21:07:21) ADcomp [i=4e8175c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-smpxhlqglqqfrsuq] a rejoint le salon.
  20 (21:07:28) mimor: anyhow, if you can order them... 1 for me plz :)
  21 (21:07:30) ADcomp: hello
  22 (21:07:35) jean7491: let's start with topic 1 - future events 
  23 (21:07:58) jean7491: dipro hasselt 24/01
  24 (21:08:10) jean7491: team is ok, preparation is ongoing, lars is coordinating the booth.
  25 (21:08:21) jean7491: As far as I know, no problem with this event
  26 (21:08:38) jean7491: comment ?
  27 (21:08:52) JanC: CDs are sent by post
  28 (21:09:00) jean7491: thx
  29 (21:09:09) JanC: and Lars got parking info from me
  30 (21:09:18) jean7491: ok
  31 (21:09:39) jean7491: next one : dipro ghent 31/01
  32 (21:10:01) jean7491: team is ok (thanks mimor and the others), preparation is ongoing, kenneth is coordinating the booth.
  33 (21:10:15) mimor: k.
  34 (21:10:23) mimor: I've seen that the wiki page is still kinda empty
  35 (21:10:40) mimor: IRC meeting for coordination: proposed ... at ...h.. on IRC #ubuntu-be
  36 (21:10:47) mimor: next wensday 21h ?
  37 (21:10:59) Clamam_ [i=51a51caf@gateway/web/freenode/x-efpayyvphpxugmfw] a rejoint le salon.
  38 (21:11:03) jean7491: i've no info about the preparation, 
  39 (21:11:11) mimor: *Wednesday
  40 (21:11:24) jean7491: but kenneth is not available on wednesday !
  41 (21:11:31) mimor: oh :(
  42 (21:11:33) JanC: mimor: IIRC Kenneth often can't on Wed.
  43 (21:11:39) jean7491: see his mail !
  44 (21:11:41) mimor: is he online?
  45 (21:11:48) jean7491: no
  46 (21:11:57) mimor: someone has his mail-adress?
  47 (21:11:59) mimor: :p
  48 (21:12:04) JanC: yes
  49 (21:12:11) mimor: nvm, I'll do it trough the mailing list
  50 (21:12:27) mimor: (but I think he doesn't monitor it that close)
  51 (21:12:30) jean7491: see his mail 10.18 hr today
  52 (21:13:56) mimor: k thx
  53 (21:14:00) jean7491: wiki has to be updated by the coordinator and participants 
  54 (21:14:07) mimor: didn't see it was from him
  55 (21:14:17) mimor: I updated what I could :)
  56 (21:14:58) jean7491: if necessary, i've posters and flyers 2009 from matthew
  57 (21:15:39) jean7491: other comment for this event ?
  58 (21:15:58) mimor: I'll bring a trux droid
  59 (21:16:13) mimor: :)
  60 (21:16:20) mimor: no further comment
  61 (21:16:49) jean7491: mimor : ok, mail the details to kenneth and other participants 
  62 (21:17:07) jean7491: next item dipro kortrijk 07/02 
  63 (21:18:11) jean7491: the team is for the moment verry limited: yanu, wamukota and i: we still need 2 additional volunteers from kortrijk area !
  64 (21:19:18) jean7491: but people not going to fosdem !
  65 (21:20:05) ADcomp: how many people go to fosdem ?
  66 (21:20:10) pvandewyngaerde: me
  67 (21:20:11) XiaoShiZi: +1
  68 (21:20:15) JanC: jean7491: maybe liezie wants to help, I can ask her...
  69 (21:20:37) JanC: if she has time...
  70 (21:21:11) jean7491: ok, i tried people i know from the area, but without success (except yanu) 
  71 (21:21:14) pvandewyngaerde: i have seen georges timperman from linuxbabbel on that event before, maybe he can help a while
  72 (21:21:42) mimor: I go to fosdem
  73 (21:21:53) hfsdo a quitté le salon (quit: "Leaving")
  74 (21:22:02) jean7491: pieter : please ask him, i don't know him !
  75 (21:22:27) Clamam [n=claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
  76 (21:22:36) jean7491: other comment for dipro kortrijk ?
  77 (21:22:51) Clamam_ a quitté le salon (quit: "Page closed")
  78 (21:22:56) ADcomp: I really want to show ubuntu running on ARM board to FOSDEM .. but maybe I can split the w-e
  79 (21:23:32) ADcomp: saturday to Fodesm and sunday to kortrijk ..?
  80 (21:23:39) JanC: ADcomp: beagle board ?
  81 (21:23:59) hfsdo [n=hfsdo@d54C1B664.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
  82 (21:24:15) ADcomp: not a beagle board but very close .;
  83 (21:24:17) zuzuzzzip: i'm going to fosdem too, but only saturday and probably not the whole day
  84 (21:24:28) zuzuzzzip: leaving for ireland next day
  85 (21:25:14) ADcomp: JanC: this board : php
  86 (21:25:24) ADcomp: http://technexion.com/index.php/thunderpack
  87 (21:25:33) jean7491: if new comment for dipro kortrijk, please send me a mail? ... next ...
  88 (21:25:48) jean7491: Fosdem 2010 6-7/01 :i've no information, JanC ?
  89 (21:26:41) XiaoShiZi: 02 ;-)
  90 (21:26:53) mimor: there's no notation of fosdem on the wiki page?
  91 (21:27:09) XiaoShiZi: feb
  92 (21:27:49) JanC: I received the conference pack
  93 (21:28:17) JanC: and I'm trying to order stuff to sell (and I think I found a solution)
  94 (21:28:23) jean7491: mimor, wait : jan will coordinate this event, including wiki page !
  95 (21:28:52) mimor: okµ
  96 
  97 (21:29:44) XiaoShiZi: welcome back
  98 (21:29:55) mimor: Didn't know there was a booth till few minutes ago
  99 (21:29:55) mimor: :)
 100 (21:30:06) mimor: but I'm willing to help on the booth
 101 (21:30:46) JanC: I'd want to help less @ the booth than previous years
 102 (21:32:03) jean7491: JanC : something else about fosdem ?
 103 (21:32:09) pvandewyngaerde: on saturday i want to record all the talks in the KDE devroom
 104 (21:32:18) JanC: not for now
 105 (21:32:30) mimor: ok
 106 (21:32:37) JanC: pvandewyngaerde: what on Sunday?
 107 (21:32:38) mimor: lets skip the rest of the Fosdem
 108 (21:32:59) JanC: pvandewyngaerde: I'll have kubuntu t-shirts too this year ;)
 109 (21:33:00) pvandewyngaerde: there is a crossdesktop room with some talks, maybe i can let someone else use the camera
 110 (21:33:46) pvandewyngaerde: the other talk i wanted to see about rep-rap is being recorded anyway
 111 (21:34:30) JanC: well, we'll see later
 112 (21:34:35) jean7491: next event ... a'pen ?
 113 (21:34:51) jean7491: Hobby & Computerdagen (20/02/2010 – 21/02/2010)
 114 (21:35:27) jean7491: see in the mailing list : proposal hcc vlanderen for a cooperation within their booth 
 115 (21:35:47) nero_: HCC-Vl has a space reserved for Ubuntu-be
 116 
 117 (21:37:36) mimor: jean7491, problems?
 118 (21:38:21) jean7491: my computer is crashing for 2d time
 119 (21:38:30) nero_: Is it possible to have a multiseat stand in A'pen? like available in Wezembeek?
 120 (21:39:04) jean7491: we have to ask guy from linux-service
 121 (21:39:06) JanC: nero_: I think that should be no problem, if there is enough space ?
 122 (21:39:25) ADcomp: I'd to go .. see u
 123 (21:39:26) ADcomp: bye
 124 (21:39:41) ADcomp a quitté le salon (quit: "Page closed")
 125 (21:39:43) guydup [n=guydup@d51530769.static.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
 126 (21:39:51) pvandewyngaerde: just in time
 127 (21:39:54) pvandewyngaerde: we can ask him
 128 (21:39:55) JanC: nero_: ask guydup ☺
 129 (21:40:12) mimor: coincidence ?
 130 (21:40:13) nero_: The total length of hcc booth is 16m
 131 (21:40:36) JanC: that's more than a standard booth there ?
 132 (21:40:41) jean7491: guy : Is it possible to have a multiseat stand in A'pen? like available in Wezembeek?
 133 (21:40:41) nero_: don't know exact the disposition of everything
 134 (21:40:55) guydup: on what day?
 135 (21:41:01) JanC: Hobby & Computerdagen (20/02/2010 – 21/02/2010)
 136 (21:41:16) XiaoShiZi: proposal of Willem-3 on the forum is about 3m width
 137 (21:41:17) JanC: HCC Vlaanderen will have a booth there
 138 (21:41:26) guydup: is janc driving?
 139 (21:41:56) JanC: hm, I wasn't planning that (yet)
 140 (21:42:12) guydup: is it on saterday?
 141 (21:42:27) JanC: it's 2 days Sat/Sun
 142 (21:42:42) guydup: when it ends on sunday?
 143 (21:43:00) guydup: and starts on saterday
 144 (21:43:38) JanC: maybe nero_ can find that sort of info out before the meeting next week?
 145 (21:43:51) JanC: (if he hasn't it now)
 146 (21:43:53) nero_: public hours are 10-17 I think, will look it up
 147 (21:44:00) XiaoShiZi: 10-18
 148 (21:44:13) XiaoShiZi: on http://www.hcc-vl.be/d001/
 149 (21:44:20) guydup: can i deliver on saterday?
 150 (21:45:16) nero_: Dipro site shows 10-17 indeed
 151 (21:45:34) nero_: How soon?
 152 (21:45:56) jean74911 [n=jm@109.236.143.244] a rejoint le salon.
 153 (21:46:07) guydup: i hate to go to antwerp on friday evening
 154 (21:46:29) JanC: nero_: maybe you also need to ask if there is space for it (I'm not sure about the exact size of the Multiseat
 155 (21:46:55) pvandewyngaerde: or maybe the other things, the kiosks
 156 (21:46:56) JanC: guydup probably knows sizes
 157 (21:47:07) nero_: I think we 'll build the stand from 08:00 ~ 08:30
 158 (21:47:38) JanC: nero_: do you have enough volunteers for the Ubuntu booth ?
 159 (21:47:45) guydup: the six seat is 250cm long 80 cm wide, or fully open 500cm long on 80cm
 160 (21:48:45) guydup: the big 12 seat is 500cm long or 10 meter long fully open, also 80cm wide
 161 (21:48:55) nero_: we can allways as a hand from other hcc members without problem
 162 (21:49:05) JanC: guydup: I think it can be used with 2x 250cm in a 90° angle ?
 163 (21:49:17) guydup: yes
 164 (21:49:29) nero_: the big one is way too long
 165 (21:49:43) JanC: that might give nero_ some ideas about what's possible
 166 (21:50:03) guydup: the big one can be set in square also:250x250cm
 167 (21:50:26) pvandewyngaerde: with a lot of wasted space in the middle ?
 168 (21:50:55) guydup: yes, in hcc holland i did put my friend tux in it
 169 (21:51:07) JanC: hehe
 170 (21:51:47) nero_: we will make some sketches by the next hcc meeting
 171 (21:51:49) JanC: I propose nero_ checks back with his club members
 172 (21:51:49) pvandewyngaerde: has you big inflatable tux been at fosdem yet ?
 173 (21:52:15) mongolito404 [n=pbuyle@83.101.32.247] a rejoint le salon.
 174 (21:53:45) jean7491: about volunteers, we will have to call for volunteers fron a'pen area. are 3 volunteers each day (6 in total) enough ?
 175 (21:54:05) nero_: can we obtain any Ubuntu t-shirts for that event?
 176 (21:54:27) pvandewyngaerde: if we have left from fosdem
 177 (21:54:29) guydup: no, i have them in 200cm high and 400cm high.
 178 (21:54:32) nero_: 2x3 should be enough
 179 (21:54:46) JanC: nero_: I'm buying t-shirts to sell at FOSDEM + I got some t-shirts in the conference pack
 180 (21:54:58) nero_: ok
 181 (21:55:01) guydup: let me know with e-mail.got to go
 182 (21:55:02) JanC: + baseball caps
 183 (21:55:33) nero_: thanks guy
 184 (21:55:44) guydup: ok
 185 (21:56:18) jean7491: nero can you coordinate the ubuntu team ?
 186 (21:56:43) nero_: I'll do it in cooperation with Jurgen
 187 (21:56:52) JanC: cool
 188 (21:57:24) JanC: nero_: didn't you come to West-Flanders sometimes?
 189 (21:57:54) nero_: Yep, every 1 to 2 saturdays
 190 (21:58:50) mongolito404: Hi guys.
 191 (21:58:50) mongolito404: Sorry, I can't stay for the meeting.
 192 (21:58:50) mongolito404: I just wanted to apology for not keeping you informed about the (slow) progress on the new map.
 193 (21:58:50) mongolito404: I hope to be able to release the first version for the end of february.
 194 (21:58:50) mongolito404: Again, thanks to those organizing fairs and events. You are doing a great job.
 195 (21:58:50) mongolito404: I'm also sorry to interupt the discussion.
 196 (21:59:34) JanC: no problem mongolito404 & thanks for the update
 197 (22:00:40) JanC: nero_: maybe we can see about getting you some t-shirts the weekend between FOSDEM & HCC then?
 198 (22:00:53) nero_: sure
 199 (22:01:10) JanC: & maybe other stuff, if you need it
 200 (22:01:19) nero_: I go to Oudenburg
 201 (22:01:33) jean7491: ok, tkx mongolito404, about a'pen event, we will continue at the next IRC meeting
 202 (22:01:46) JanC: I live in Bruges, so we will find a solution ;)
 203 (22:02:07) nero_: Since I pass by... :)
 204 (22:03:10) jean7491: i've nothing for the topic 2 - Promotion material , i suggest now the topic 3 support points map status
 205 (22:03:26) jean7491: other comment on the map ?
 206 (22:03:56) nero_: Where can we obtain promo material for A'pen?
 207 (22:05:14) jean7491: nero_ : i've posters "free your pc", flyers and banners ubuntu-be team (in ostend)
 208 (22:05:52) nero_: I already printed ? 100 "use cd rom" flyers
 209 (22:06:43) nero_: I could do some more
 210 (22:06:59) JanC: and I have freedom posters if required
 211 (22:07:22) JanC: and probably free your pc ones too
 212 (22:08:08) nero_: does someone have an idea how many we will need on such an event?
 213 (22:08:27) JanC: nero_: did you ask for free CDs?
 214 (22:08:37) jean7491: canonical cd's for a'pen is another problem, as our stock (Jan) is limited: you will have to burn cd's at home
 215 (22:08:54) nero_: no, don't know where
 216 (22:10:13) JanC: nero_: I'll see what I can do
 217 (22:10:35) nero_: I have about 30 cd's left from the Mechelen fair
 218 (22:11:30) JanC: oh, and feel free to ask money for CD-Rs you burn yourself
 219 (22:11:43) JanC: to cover the cost I mean
 220 (22:12:21) jean7491: 30 cd's to be burned with 9.10, you can print cd sleeves if you have white cd sleeves
 221 (22:12:23) JanC: I can imagine you handing out 200 CD-Rs out of your own pocket otherwise ;)
 222 (22:12:49) nero_: Any idea if there are cheaper suppliers than Makro and the like?
 223 (22:13:05) JanC: yeah, go to luxemburg :P
 224 (22:13:26) nero_: If I only had time ;)
 225 (22:13:27) jean7491: last dipro i saw 50 cd's for 12 or 13 euros
 226 (22:13:47) jean7491: without spindle
 227 (22:14:38) XiaoShiZi: http://www.mmd.lu/
 228 (22:15:19) pvandewyngaerde: i used a store from switserland last time i think, something called max 24
 229 (22:15:39) mongolito404 a quitté le salon (quit: "Leaving.")
 230 (22:16:13) jean7491: http://www.mmd.lu/ does not deliver blanco cd's to belgium 
 231 (22:16:45) XiaoShiZi: nope but when I'm in that region some day in futur I'll do some shopping ;-)
 232 (22:17:09) jean7491: good idea
 233 (22:17:13) pvandewyngaerde: http://www.keytechnology.ch/Max24/Overview.asp?LID=3&CID=2&SID=3&Country=United%20Kingdom&Change=Lang very good for large quantities because of fixed shipping price
 234 (22:18:29) XiaoShiZi: still beter prices in Lux
 235 (22:19:06) pvandewyngaerde: ok, but i needed mine shipped to me, i was not able to go get them
 236 (22:21:14) jean7491: i suggest to jump to the next ... topic 4 – things living in the mailing list 
 237 (22:21:45) jean7491: perhaps a few words about ubuntu-be cd's ?
 238 (22:22:07) jean7491: as it was suggested in the mailing list : any comment ?
 239 (22:22:41) nero_: how long does it take to produce such?
 240 (22:22:48) jean7491: ?
 241 (22:23:09) JanC: a couple of weeks probably
 242 (22:23:25) JanC: but maybe we'll have to ask in time
 243 (22:23:36) nero_: hcc would like to organise an install party shortly after 10.04LTS release date
 244 (22:24:00) pvandewyngaerde: nice
 245 (22:25:10) nero_: we have a good meeting room near the A12, Willebroek
 246 (22:27:00) jean7491: has someone information about how and where to produce ubuntu-be cd's ? i've no idea
 247 (22:27:05) nero_: so if we could have some cd's in time...
 248 (22:27:21) pvandewyngaerde: bbartek: are you there ?
 249 (22:28:48) jean7491: i've to leave the meeting now, i suggest a last topic - next meeting on 27/01/2010 at 21 h. 
 250 (22:28:59) XiaoShiZi: ok
 251 (22:29:14) nero_: I'll try to be there
 252 (22:29:40) Clamam a quitté le salon
 253 (22:30:07) jean7491: thanks to all, and bye !