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Download 1 Topic #ubuntu-be : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-02-03 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
2 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting
3 <wamukota> I'm here
4 <XiaoShiZi> +1
5 <JanC> o/
6 <nero_> check
7 <mongolito404> Hi
8 <jean7491> hello wamukota, XiaoShiZi, JanC, mongolito404, nero_, ....anyone else ? yanu?
9 <jean7491> i propose to start, mimor will join the chanel later
10 <jean7491> opic 1 – past and future events
11 <mimor> jup
12 <mimor> Mimor present
13 <jean7491> hello mimor
14 <jean7491> dipro ghent 31/01- report
15 <jean7491> report and pictures are already in the wiki
16 <jean7491> in his report, kws made some reflexions about the repetition of dipro fairs especially in ghent : 4 fairs in 1 year is perhaps too much
17 <jean7491> we should find new ways/events to promote ubuntu: all suggestions are welcome!
18 <jean7491> mimor : comment ?
19 <mimor> I do agree
20 <mimor> the reason there were not so many people was probably an over-load of diprofairs :)
21 <mimor> but it's impossible to tell when there will be a biggeraudience
22 <mimor> (sorry for the slow typing... my fingers are still frozen... I'm comming from outside)
23 <jean7491> first we can skip the dipro Ghent on 18/04/2010,
24 <mimor> I guess so :)
25 <jean7491> but we certainly need new ideas
26 <mimor> We've actually added money ourselves... that's something bad
27 <mimor> I did hear something about canonical no longer shipping cd's?
28 <mimor> or did I misread that?
29 <JanC> only a small number are shipped for free
30 <JanC> 400 CDs, but that uncludes Kubuntu & Ubuntu Server...
31 <mimor> even on this day, there were not enough cd's...
32 <JanC> includes
33 <mimor> now I know why we should look for a way to get them pressed ourselves
34 <mimor> but I can't see how we can do this without funding
35 <JanC> sponsoring...
36 <JanC> or selling them...
37 <mimor> If we charge money for the cd's (even a little bit) we have to pay double for the dipro-fairs
38 <JanC> mimor: no we don't
39 <mimor> (as we're selling at that moment)
40 <mimor> I tought we only have to pay half because we're not selling anything?
41 <mimor> enlighten me plz ;)
42 <JanC> they said to Mark it's okay as long as we don't sell things that the regular shops sell
43 <mimor> oh
44 <mimor> we should be sure tough
45 <JanC> and as lon,g as we don't become a shop ourselves of course
46 <mimor> ^^
47 <JanC> we already sell posters... ;)
48 <mimor> almost forgot about that one :)
49 <JanC> and if any t-shirts are left after FOSDEM, we can sell those too
50 <JanC> that might be another way to make money of course
51 <mimor> Put one aside for me
52 <JanC> you'll be there, so that should be no problem ;)
53 <mimor> (as I had to wear a Microsoft IT-pro day's T-shirt a few dipro's ago ><
54 <jean7491> we should certainly limit the distribution of cd's to the people who are really interested
55 <mimor> can we make profit by re-selling the T-shirts all trough
56 <mimor> something like setting up our own web-shop ...
57 <mimor> or is it forbidden by Canonical?
58 <JanC> we certainly make a profit on t-shirts
59 <mimor> the problem with the canonical shop (to me, that is) is that the shipping costs are too high
60 <JanC> I'm not going to sell t-shirt at a price with 2 figures after the decimal separator ;)
61 <mimor> So we might try to re-sell ubuntu gear with a lower shipping cost on some way
62 <mimor> it's just a thought
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64 <mongolito404> About web-shop. This is not an easy task to run one. It takes some times.
65 <mongolito404> Off course, not full time.
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68 <mimor> It's not like some online colruyt webshop ofc ;)
69 <mimor> I don't expect to sell huge loads of stuff
70 <jean7491> cd's are certainly a problem but we definitively need new ideas about events and another way to approach potential users
71 <mongolito404> And if we want to sell goods with the Ubuntu logo we will have to check the legality with Canonical. Beeing an officiel LoCo certainly helps.
72 <mimor> I propose more Ubuntu-be bloggers
73 <mimor> If people want to blog about Ubuntu related stuff, I can give them an account on my wordpress ><
74 <mimor> to approach potential users ofc
75 <JanC> mongolito404: reselling stuff from canonical's shop is no problem though
76 <mongolito404> We certainly need more good bloggers.
77 <JanC> at the fairs etc.
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79 <mongolito404> And there is certainly many good bloggers ubunteros in Be.
80 <mongolito404> We as now, we failed to attract them under the Ubuntu-be banner;
81 <mimor> I'll try to gather the ubuntu blogging belgians :)
82 <mongolito404> mimor: We have a planet on Ubuntu-be
83 <mongolito404> But it is not really alive.
84 <mimor> I know, still have to find out how that works :)
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86 <mongolito404> But the infrastructure is there ready to be used.
87 <JanC> if you have an account on the site, you can add your blog...
88 <JanC> IIRC
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90 <mongolito404> Sure it has some glitch but nothing that couldn't be fixed once the motivation of seeing it used is there.
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92 <mimor> linking all belgian ubuntu blogs trough the blogroll would be a nice start
93 <mimor> let's set up a wiki page with all blogs from belgian ubuntu users?
94 <mimor> thats a start to pull belgian ubuntu users closer to the ubuntu-be community ;)
95 <jean7491> we can continue on this topic at the end of the meeting : coming back to the dipro ghent report, are there other proposals of events in ghent area ?
96 <mimor> for spreading ubuntu to new people, we can try to mail all city's that we're available to do something if they organise it-related events
97 <mimor> (Accenta seemed to be a good example)
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99 <mongolito404> mimor: I can arrange the permission on the website so that you, or other, could maintain a blogroll there.
100 <mimor> would be nice
101 <mimor> (I guess I have the rights to create it myself, but didn't had the time to look into the drupal thing)
102 <mimor> jean7491, no further comments on the dirp ghent or other events in ghent for now
103 <jean7491> there are certainly other opportunities like accenta, but we (=everybody) have to actively look for these events
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105 <jean7491> contact with digipolis ghent was a good example
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107 <mongolito404> Blogroll => https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/516732
108 <ADcomp> hello .. sorry , i'm late :(
109 <JanC> no problem ADcomp, we've not started FOSDEM yet ☺
110 <jean7491> another example, the digital week : like i will do it in ostende, we should participate to this kind of event
111 <jean7491> but we need local initiatives and looking towards the future events
112 <jean7491> coming back to the meeting agenda : next item dipro kortrijk 07/02
113 <jean7491> minimum team = 3 yanu, wamukota and me
114 <jean7491> we still need additional volunteers, but it seems hopeless!
115 <jean7491> nevertheless we will do it
116 <JanC> well, 3 should work, I've done fairs with 2 ;)
117 <JanC> but you get tired near the end then though
118 <mongolito404> For more events: I think we should find a way to put the emphases on collaboration with existing groups. HCC invited us on their booth fr the Antwerpen Dipro (if I understand correctly). Maybe we should seek for more collaboration like this.
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121 <wamukota> JanC, don't forget the stuff we asked for Kortrijk
122 <jean7491> likely no problem of preparation, just a few coordination with yanu (and wamukota) - btw, is it ok with cd's+posters+stickers as i asked?
123 <JanC> wamukota: I didn't forget, are you at home tomorrow?
124 <wamukota> I am after 17:00
125 <jean7491> mongolito404 : i will come back later on the event in a'pen and the cooperation with hcc
126 <jean7491> i suppose no other comment about kortrijk dipro ?
127 <wamukota> not from me jean7491
128 <JanC> oh, a question for the Ghent people: was there "HCC test booth" there?
129 <wamukota> as long as you pick me up on Sunday ;-)
130 <jean7491> wamukota : ok
131 <JanC> mimor & co. ^^^
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135 <jean7491> "HCC test booth" ?
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137 <mimor> JanC, yes they were there
138 <mimor> but I haven't seen people that were interested in them
139 <mimor> no one actually knew what 'testbank' ment I guess :)
140 <JanC> "NIEUW: alle aankopen kunnen vanaf nu gratis getest worden op de beurs bij
141 <JanC> de HCC testbank. U kan ook meegebrachte onderdelen laten nakijken."
142 <JanC> was in the Dipro promo mail ☺
143 <mimor> In between the lines, I just found this website: http://www.opengemeenten.be/
144 <JanC> would be cool if they could test Ubuntu compatibility too ;)
145 <JanC> I guess we should contact HCC about that
146 <JanC> anyway, next topic ?
147 <jean7491> Fosdem 2010 6-7/02
148 <jean7491> JanC ? : something to announce ?
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154 <JanC> t-shirts, stickers, mouse mats, mugs, lanyards & keychains arrived well
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159 * mimor is glad ^^
160 <JanC> I will be making flyers for FOSDEM tomorrow
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162 <JanC> if some of what I bought doesn't get sold during FOSDEM, we can sell it at H&C days in Antwerp and later computer fairs
163 <JanC> and other events
164 <wamukota> brb
165 <JanC> now I'm thinking about what to show / and what hardware we have available
166 <JanC> I have my EEE 900 on which I might install the netbook remix or Qimo or Lubuntu or something like that
167 <JanC> ADcomp: what hardware will you bring? (I know you always have something special ;) )
168 <mimor> I'll bring the bike of fredy de kerpel again
169 <mongolito404> I've a EEE 900 too.
170 <mongolito404> I think it is already running UNR 9.10 (I don't really use it)
171 <mongolito404> I've my own Laptop and I've decided if i should bring it.
172 <ADcomp> acer aspire one ( Lucid / netbook remix ) / dev board (arm processor) + touchscreen 4.3'' ( Karmic)
173 <mongolito404> On the fun side, if it is of any use, I also have a Kysoh but nothing really cool to do with it. And it is not really ubuntu related.
174 <mongolito404> Sorry, it a Kysoh Tux Droid
175 <JanC> I have a Tux Droid too ;)
176 <ADcomp> nokia n770 ( Jaunty ) .. eee T91 touchscreen ( but touchscreen driver is buggy and kill X )
177 <JanC> better not demo crashing apps ;-)
178 <ADcomp> yes .. :(
179 <JanC> did you try the moblin remix on the ARM board ?
180 <JanC> hm, apparently only available on intel
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183 <ADcomp> yes .. and it is designed for 1024x600 ..
184 <ADcomp> not for 480x272 :)
185 <JanC> anyway, still nice to show off something ;)
186 <JanC> maybe install some handheld software on it
187 <JanC> instead of the usual stuff
188 <ADcomp> running Openbox / mplayer / gpe-gallery / alsaplayer / fennec
189 <JanC> like tangoGPS
190 <JanC> I can bring a GPS mouse if the board has USB
191 <JanC> (GPS receiver)
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196 <mimor> I have a gps mouse too... (Sirf III)
197 <ADcomp> maybe we can give a try :)
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202 <JanC> it works fine on my desktop
203 <ADcomp> I have a small netbox too ..
204 <JanC> but I suggest we all install something else on our netbooks
205 <JanC> ADcomp: the EEE desktop thing from last year ?
206 <ADcomp> no .. an other one ..
207 <ADcomp> this one : (targa lidle) http://www.flickr.com/photos/ndevil/3949752129/in/photostream/
208 <JanC> ah, does taht work well with Ubuntu ?
209 <JanC> I didn't buy it because of the graphics chip... (SiS IIRC)
210 <jean7491> JanC : do you plan another irc coordination meeting for fosdem ? (so we can go ahead with the agenda)
211 <JanC> anyway, maybe everybody mail what you can bring to the mailing list ;)
212 <JanC> jean7491: going ahead is okay
213 <JanC> I think I have some idea of what will be available ☺
214 <jean7491> next item Antwerp, hobby & computerdagen (20/02/2010 – 21/02/2010)
215 <jean7491> in cooperation with hcc regio vlaanderen
216 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2010-02-20_21
217 <jean7491> nero_ : do you have something to say ?
218 <jean7491> we still need additional volunteers
219 <JanC> I might go there on Saturday (or maybe Sunday), but not 2 days
220 <nero_> are there some volunteers from regio Antwerp?
221 <nero_> I'll be there 2 days I guess
222 <jean7491> there is a very limited response to the calls i launched, let's hope at least 2 volunteers per day will appear
223 <jean7491> ward will certainly come 20/02
224 <nero_> who's ward?
225 <jean7491> Jan Bongaerts 1 day sat. or sun.
226 <jean7491> ward de ridder, see wiki
227 <jean7491> i'll contact jan b. about which day he comes
228 <nero_> K
229 <JanC> nero_: the "HCC testbank" at dipro fairs, is that your HCC group ?
230 <nero_> If JanC could help on Saturday and Jan B on Sunday
231 <nero_> HCC testbank is a Dutch group afaik
232 <JanC> I'll ask the dipro people ☺
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234 <JanC> okay, next topic I suppose?
235 <jean7491> nero_ please contact me for material, if necessary
236 <jean7491> next dipro fair brugge 28/02
237 <jean7491> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-02-28
238 <jean7491> preparation will start in the next days
239 <jean7491> next topic 2 - Promotion material
240 <jean7491> Update of promotion material: any new idea ?
241 <jean7491> Comment about the proposal to burn CD's for Ubuntu-be ? See last week report (in the wiki)
242 <ADcomp> I can help for creating ISO .. if needed
243 <jean7491> main question is who will initiate and be in charge of this project ?
244 <wamukota> burning is not the problem, but obtaining enough blanco CD's is more difficult
245 <JanC> the main thing to decide currently is how to finance it (both burning & pressing)
246 <ADcomp> who talk about sponsor last meeting ?
247 <JanC> sponsoring is one way, making people to pay is another ☺
248 <ADcomp> I agree ..
249 <jean7491> sponsoring : we are sure about income, ... selling the cd's = we hope to succeed !
250 <JanC> if we want to get pressed CDs, then a minimum amount would be needed indeed
251 <mandel> dammed, am I late?
252 <jean7491> any idea about cost ?
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254 <jean7491> and experience wit potential sponsors ?
255 <nero_> pressed CDs is only appropriate for LTS releases imo
256 <ADcomp> lucid is lts .. no ?
257 <JanC> nero_: ubuntu-fr presses CDs for all releases
258 <JanC> we could buy some of these for ubuntu-be if we want
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260 <JanC> if we want to sell them instead of giving away
261 <mongolito404> Does ubuntu-nl and ubuntu-de burn CD too ?
262 <nero_> but they have a much bigger area to serve
263 <JanC> true ☺
264 <ADcomp> +1 :)
265 <JanC> ubuntu-nl doesn't (but they might buy some from us if we make them)
266 <JanC> ubuntu-de, I don't know, but I could ask
267 <nero_> has there be done some quantity estimation by release in the past?
268 <ADcomp> btw , I hate cd .. usbkey ( ubuntu / framakey ) is better but more expensive
269 <JanC> giving away usb keys is certainly no option ;)
270 <jean7491> what about our experience with sponsors for 8.04lts in 2008 ?
271 <ADcomp> no giving away , for sure .. :P
272 <JanC> I'm not sure we can get the same sponsor again
273 <JanC> I would have to ask Bart
274 <nero_> what was the cost for that release?
275 <jean7491> no, just share experience and estimate what is possible
276 <ADcomp> http://www.enventelibre.org/produit/framakey-ubuntu-fr-remix
277 <ADcomp> maybe we can do the same ..
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279 <JanC> it's an idea...
280 <siegie> nero_: i can try to find the price for the hardy cd's in the ubuntu-nl wiki pages, one moment please
281 <JanC> it's on the wiki?
282 <siegie> JanC: the closed part of the wiki i think
283 <siegie> found it €475 for 1000 cd's
284 <JanC> so, that's < 50 cent for a CD
285 <JanC> siegie: was that including something to put them in?
286 <JanC> (I don't remember how they were :P )
287 <siegie> There was a plastic sleeve arround them,
288 <JanC> ah, right
289 <jean7491> and some sponsors logo's on the cd
290 <jean7491> but i never saw it
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292 <JanC> somebody was also going to ask for prices in Morocco ;)
293 <JanC> nightrid3r
294 <JanC> but I'm not sure that's a good solution (transport/time etc.)
295 <mongolito404> And legally we will have to pay taxes and custom fee.
296 <JanC> unless it's half the price or such :-)
297 <JanC> mongolito404: his company does a lot of business with & in morocco apparently, so I guess he would know how much it would cost
298 <jean7491> i propose to continue at the next meeting, with more information on cost and sponsors (from bart and other sources)
299 <JanC> they heave trucks driving to & from there regularly etc.
300 <JanC> have
301 <mongolito404> ok
302 <JanC> but we would need some guarantee fro mhim still ☺
303 <jean7491> we continue next week ?
304 <JanC> ok
305 <jean7491> topic 3 support points map status
306 <jean7491> mongolito404 ?
307 <mongolito404> I've something ready to test (not map, just list)
308 <siegie> JanC: in marocco there no €0,12 auvibel tax?
309 <mongolito404> Now I need an host where to host a test site PHP 5.2+
310 <mongolito404> Testers to test the stuff I install there
311 <mongolito404> Some time to actually install it
312 <jean7491> can someone help mongolito404 ?
313 <mandel> I can let you a server, if that is ok ;)
314 <JanC> you can't test on the ubuntu server?
315 <mandel> but is a centos one and is used for something else
316 <JanC> ubuntu-be server I mean?
317 <mongolito404> I need an host and I don't have time to do any sysadmin task but I'll ask for some tools I'm used to use. IE. Nothinf fancy.
318 <mongolito404> recent bzr and rsync
319 <mongolito404> and PHP as cli
320 <mongolito404> JanC: It is always long to have something on Ubuntu-be.org server. Cedric is always busy. I don't blame him.
321 <mandel> I can get you bzr etc and try to set up a nice env for you
322 <mongolito404> And I can't take the responsability to be root and install stuff by myself
323 <mandel> but again, you have to deal with rpm etc..
324 <mongolito404> As I said, I don't have time to do sysadmin stuff.
325 <mongolito404> And certainly not to learn rpm-fu while I used to deb-fu (on Ubuntu)
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327 <selckin> can give you a small vps if its just testing stuff
328 <mandel> well, I can give you a hand with the sysadmin, that is nto a problem
329 <mongolito404> I can "aptitude install" stuff and edit lighttpd/apache2 configuration cleanly (ie. in a separate file in /etc/apache2/site-available for instance).
330 <mandel> I can offer server and sysadmin thingy, that's is all :P
331 <JanC> maybe selckin's VPS is easiest then?
332 <mongolito404> Yes
333 <jean7491> mongolito404 : can you continue directly with selckin and mandel ?
334 <mongolito404> I know I sound picky but I really want to focus on the code.
335 <mongolito404> Yes
336 <jean7491> so we can go ahead with topic 4 – things living in the mailing list - reapproval
337 <jean7491> the procedure for re-approval-application of our loco team is started ...
338 <jean7491> the loco council meeting about the re-approval of our loco team is planned on 16/02 at 21.00 hr. all members of the loco team are invited to take part to the meeting on irc #ubuntu-meeting
339 <JanC> the reapproval page can use some additions from people who have been around longer (I will look some thing up myself and add them after FOSDEM)
340 <JanC> 16/2 is a Tuesday BTW
341 <mongolito404> I'll add some info about the website
342 <jean7491> the draft is available in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2010-Draft, but indeed not complete ...
343 <jean7491> other question to complete the draft : what were the actions of Ubuntu-be in relation with "non-profit, and inter-governmental institutions" since 2006 ? What about schools ?
344 <jean7491> hoping JanC will gather info at fosdem !
345 <jean7491> comment on this ?
346 <ADcomp> nobody use edubuntu in belgium ?
347 <JanC> I know some schools do (the LTSP stuff)
348 <JanC> well, I heard soem schools do ☺
349 <ADcomp> maybe if we could contact them and this in the wiki ?
350 <ADcomp> (add)
351 <JanC> jean7491: I think one school near where you live uses Edubuntu
352 <jean7491> ?
353 <JanC> at the other side of the park ☺
354 <JanC> St-Jozef
355 <JanC> aka VKIOB
356 <JanC> or whatever their name is now
357 <jean7491> i see the school, but never had contact with !
358 <JanC> well, I think it's their primary school that uses it
359 <JanC> but that's only what I heard
360 <JanC> not sure even what school (they have several in Ostend & Bredene)
361 <JanC> anyway, one thing we should do one day is compile a list of schoosl & companies using Ubuntu ☺
362 <mongolito404> Is ubuntu-be involved in the use of ubuntu at that school. Otherwise, this seems unfair to present it as an achievement.
363 <JanC> mongolito404: it shouldn't be listed on that page
364 <JanC> we should compile a separate list for that ;)
365 <mongolito404> ok
366 <jean7491> i'm just wondering what ubuntu-be did, not the rest were we are not involved in
367 <jean7491> i propose next item : last week suggestion of a monthly report (following the rule in the wiki)
368 <mongolito404> I'm totally for it.
369 <mimor> 1+
370 <mongolito404> If we start to do it, I'll report my work on the wiki myself.
371 <JanC> it wil make reapproval in 2 years from now much easier ;)
372 <JanC> and it can be short, just pointing to longer reports if useful
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374 <jean7491> two advantages : regularly summary of ubuntu-be life, and our activities will be better known by ubuntu community, but ...
375 <JanC> more work ;-)
376 <jean7491> the problem, who will do it ?
377 <jean7491> is there a volunteer ?
378 <jean7491> no problem if there are more than 1 volunteer !
379 <mongolito404> A volunteer for what ? Basic maintenance of the wiki pages I guess.
380 <ADcomp> I like to involve more in ubuntu-be .. but my english is crappy ( no comment on my dutch ) .. So not so easy
381 <mongolito404> Maintenance of the page does not invovle much writing
382 <ADcomp> ( btw , you do a amazing job jean7491 )
383 <mongolito404> It looks more like repeating copy/pasting every month
384 <mongolito404> And probably wiki markup cleanup
385 <mongolito404> A motivated person with some spare time could probably automated half the work
386 <jean7491> you know https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports ?
387 <jean7491> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting/HowTo ?
388 <mongolito404> Yes
389 <mongolito404> And I'm comfortable with wiki markup
390 <ADcomp> not sure it's so easy to automate ..
391 <mongolito404> The truth is I'm too lazy and I forget to easily to commit to doing this each month.
392 <jean7491> and not everything (about event or action) is in the wiki ...
393 <mongolito404> The idea is not the ave a single person responsible of reporting everything in the wiki.
394 <mongolito404> Anyone can and should edit the report.
395 <JanC> uhu, and maybe a monthly reminder...?
396 <JanC> to the ML I mean
397 <mongolito404> IMHO, the maintainer job is to clean it, create/updae the pages each month and bug people (on the ML, here, be mail, etc.) every month.
398 <ADcomp> Don't know if I'm the good one but maybe I can try do help on this ..
399 <mongolito404> And make everyone feel responsible of the report so that when something in the ML should be added, there is always someone to do it. And not always the same person doing all the edit.
400 <mongolito404> ADcomp: you don't know if you do it well until you try
401 <ADcomp> usually I 'm not a this part .. but I really want to do more ..
402 <ADcomp> I'm more confortable with hardware and python' code ;)
403 <mongolito404> This is the case for most of us.
404 <mongolito404> :D
405 <mongolito404> That's why they call us 'nerds' :p
406 * t00r (~t00r@unaffiliated/t00r) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
407 <ADcomp> can we talk about this at Fosdem ?
408 <jean7491> ADcomp : perhaps during the fosdem you will be convinced to try this task !
409 <mongolito404> :D
410 <jean7491> and we are now at the last topic - next meeting on 10/02/2010 at 21 h. ?
411 <mimor> agreed
412 <mongolito404> I'll try to be there, at least for updates on the map.
413 <ADcomp> ok
414 <mimor> I have mobile internet on my phone now... so I can be here on any time :D
415 <jean7491> thanks to all for your participation ! see you next week ! have a good night !
416 <mimor> Good night!
417 <mongolito404> selckin, mandel: Thank you for the server offers. I should mail you tomorrow.
418 <mongolito404> Good night everyone one.
419 <ADcomp> bye all .. good night
420 <mandel> laters
421 * mongolito404 est parti (Quit: Leaving.)
422 * mandel est parti (Quit: Leaving)
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