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Download 1 * Topic #ubuntu-be : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-02-10 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
2 * #ubuntu-be :http://www.ubuntu-be.org/
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4 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
5 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@227.208-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
6 <XiaoShiZi> Hi jean7491
7 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@227.208-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
8 <wamukota> hello jean7491
9 <JanC> o/
10 <pvandewyngaerde> hi
11 <nero_> check
12 <jean7491> hello XiaoShiZi, wamukota, JanC, pvandewijngaerde, nero_
13 <jean7491> yanu ? siegie ? mimor ? Gh0sty ?
14 <mimor> jup :)
15 <Gh0sty> @ work but ok
16 <Gh0sty> with 1 eye :p
17 <mimor> :)
18 <jean7491> hi mimor, Gh0sty (1/2)
19 <mimor> lo
20 <jean7491> i suggest we start with topic 1 – past and future events
21 <mimor> sounds like pure logic ;)
22 <jean7491> dipro kortrijk 07/02- report
23 <jean7491> report and pictures are already in the wiki
24 <jean7491> although only 3 volunteers, everything was ok: thanks an initial stock of 50 home-burned cd's, we have not wasted our time with copying cd's and we were always available for the visitors
25 * pvandewyngaerde1 (~id984031@40.107-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
26 <jean7491> comment yanu or wamukota ?
27 <wamukota> no additional comment. report in the wiki was ok
28 <jean7491> just 1 remark : ubuntu-be should buy a stock of blanco cd's. the promotion kit for teams organizing booths should include 50 blanco cd's, posters and flyers
29 <jean7491> next ...
30 <jean7491> next item : Fosdem 2010 : JanC ? : something to report ?
31 * pvandewyngaerde est parti (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
32 <wamukota> how many CD on a yearly base do we need. If we buy 500 CD at once they are even cheaper
33 <JanC> did anybody know how much CD-Rs cost us ? (CD-R + jacket + pinting cost + burning cost?)
34 <JanC> does *
35 * guest (~guest@d51530769.static.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
36 * mimor_fosdem feels obsolete now that FOSDEM 2010 is history
37 <mimor_fosdem> so bye
38 * mimor_fosdem est parti (Quit: leaving)
39 <jean7491> cd-r 100 for 21 euro, 100 cd sleeves for 2 euro, cost burning and printing cd sleeves ?
40 <jean7491> prices from the last dipro
41 * guest est parti (Client Quit)
42 <JanC> so probably somewhere 0.25-0.35 € / CD ?
43 <jean7491> probably
44 <JanC> hm, Canonical shop is 0.93 € / CD
45 <JanC> and pressing our own around 0.50 € somewhere ?
46 * guydup (~guydup@d51530769.static.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
47 <wamukota> you mean burning or pressing
48 <mimor> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase/europe
49 <JanC> pressing
50 <mimor> we should be able to buy them from http://www.linux-service.be/ :D
51 <JanC> mimor: he pays the same price as we do...
52 <mimor> isn't there a company in belgium that burns cd's en mass
53 <JanC> most of the companies that do pressed CDs do
54 <JanC> but don't forget they have to ask money for their time ☺
55 <mimor> I know
56 <mimor> http://www.kopieer-cd.be
57 <JanC> e.g. the company that bbartek used for hardy does
58 <mimor> we can ask for prices...
59 <mimor> doesn't hurt I guess?
60 <jean7491> i suggest we come back later on this problem in the topic promotion material, and now let's speak about fosdem report
61 <mimor> fosdem was... sweet!
62 <mimor> the tux-droids got a lot of attention
63 <mimor> as well did the little arm test plate
64 <jean7491> who will write a report in the wiki (for people who was not in fosdem) ?
65 <mimor> ><
66 <mimor> eh...
67 <mimor> I don't feel like it
68 <mimor> but if no one else wants to....
69 <JanC> I still need to make inventory, but if somebody wants to start feel free ☺
70 <mimor> just let me spend my last 2 days with my GF.. then she leaves forever and I have time
71 <mimor> ;)
72 <JanC> eh
73 <JanC> if nobody starts, I'll do it after inventory is done...
74 <jean7491> ok, i cann't start it ! use the wiki page to add notes for the report and links for pics (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2010)
75 <mimor> that's the general ubuntu.com wiki
76 <mimor> wouldn't it be better to create an ubuntu-be wiki page for it?
77 <mimor> (we can add a link to the report on the general page)
78 <JanC> yeah, better put it on the BelgianTeam pages
79 <jean7491> just rename the page as BelgianTeam/Fosdem2010 ?
80 <JanC> no, there are lots of links to that wiki page!
81 <guydup> is here someone who is involved with 28 ste Hobby en Computerdagen in Antwerp Expo
82 <JanC> guydup: yes, I guess that will be next topic
83 <guydup> ok
84 <jean7491> JanC, up to you for the fosdem page (report and pics)
85 <jean7491> other comments for fosdem ?
86 <mimor> yes
87 <JanC> BTW: we got some nice help from people from ubuntu-nl ("ertai") & ubuntu-ie (Laura Czajkowski) at the booth
88 <mimor> next year we'll be there again
89 <JanC> mimor: of course ☺
90 <mimor> but if possible I would like to review the stuff we sold
91 <mimor> like the 'stock' and what sold verry well and what did less
92 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
93 <mimor> like next time, if possible, more mugs and more black t'shirts
94 <mimor> (and less kubuntu stuff) ;)
95 <jean7491> it something you can discuss with jan for the report, including lessons learned for next year
96 <mimor> ok
97 <mimor> next toppic?
98 <jean7491> next item : antwerp, hobby & computerdagen (20/02/2010 – 21/02/2010)
99 <jean7491> in cooperation with hcc regio vlaanderen
100 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2010-02-20_21
101 <jean7491> we still need additional volunteers for sunday 21/02
102 <jean7491> for 20/02, the team is ok
103 <nero_> at least one extra for sunday
104 <JanC> for those who don't know: nero_ is our "HCC contact" ☺
105 <jean7491> i don't know if jurgen will come ?
106 <JanC> at FOSDEM nero_ said he won't
107 <JanC> is that still true?
108 <nero_> I didn't see Jurgen on the last HCC meeting
109 <nero_> I'll send him a mail to ask
110 * wamukota est parti (Quit: Ex-Chat)
111 <jean7491> i'll send again mails to my contacts in a'pen : let's hope !
112 <jean7491> guydup : question about a'pen ?
113 <guydup> i need to know exact hour for delivering and pickup of the multiseat computer
114 <jean7491> nero_ ?
115 <guydup> is there a parking ticket needed and a phone number from the contact
116 <nero_> I'll be there Saturday from 08:30 ~ 09:00 to prepare the stand
117 <guydup> i will only deliver on saterday and pickup on sunday
118 <JanC> nero_: also, did you think about something to sit on for the people working on the multiseat?
119 <nero_> I can get some chairs
120 <jean7491> guydup : how many chairs needed ?
121 <guydup> send this info to my e-mail: guy@linux-service.be
122 <guydup> six
123 <nero_> there is a parking just behind the fair
124 <JanC> or 2 benches
125 <guydup> and is it freely accessable on sunday for pickup?
126 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
127 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
128 <nero_> after 05:00 PM (closing) of the fair)
129 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
130 <guydup> ok,let me know on mail
131 <guydup> have to leave now
132 <jean7491> bye guydup
133 <JanC> and thanks for the multiseat at FOSDEM & H&C days ☺
134 * guydup est parti (Quit: Java user signed off)
135 <nero_> I'll send you the details
136 <jean7491> nero_ : do you have something else to add ?
137 <nero_> any idea how many cd's we should prepare?
138 <JanC> certainly 100+ for 2 days
139 <mimor> Ok, I'm going to leave too
140 <JanC> maybe 200+
141 <jean7491> for a normal dipro fair, i think 50, ... do you need flyers and posters ? home-printed cd sleeves ?
142 <mimor> something else you need me for?
143 <jean7491> free on 21/02 for a'pen ?
144 <nero_> I can print flyers in advance, is 200 enough?
145 <JanC> I have posters (enough) & flyers (have to check how many)
146 <mimor> jean7491, I'm not going to go to A'pen
147 <JanC> nero_: there are colour flyers
148 <nero_> the printer does not accept sleeves :(
149 <mimor> sorry :s
150 * t00r (~t00r@unaffiliated/t00r) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
151 <JanC> but maybe printing a bunch of the "how to install"-flyers might be useful
152 <JanC> sec, I'm going to check how many colour flyers I have left
153 <nero_> I ment the "using live cd-rom" flyers
154 <mimor> K. If I've got a remark on something.. I'll just reply tot the report then ;)
155 <mimor> see you all!
156 <jean7491> on my hp5440, i print cd sleeve once a time, model is in the wiki (ink-friendly)
157 <JanC> nero_: do you have colour flyers ?
158 <nero_> Yes
159 <JanC> ah, okay, then I'll keep mine for dipro Bruges
160 <jean7491> nero_ : my actual stock : 30 home printed cd sleeves + 100 blanco (paper)
161 <jean7491> other question for a'pen ?
162 <nero_> JanC: do you come on Saturday with the promo material?
163 <JanC> yes, I'll come on Saturday, but not Sunday
164 <JanC> that way I can bring whatever is still needed
165 <jean7491> nero_ "with the promo material?" which one ?
166 <nero_> I'll probably can't make it to Bruges/Ostend this weekend
167 <nero_> if you could bring the sleeves from Jean7491
168 <nero_> shirts, mugs, caps, ... whatever is available for selling
169 <nero_> tux flyers if there are some
170 <JanC> no more mugs unfortunately, and mostly kubuntu t-shirts, unless we buy more...
171 <nero_> I can easely print colour A4 stuff needed, but no other formats
172 <JanC> well, we have ubuntu t-shirts, but not in all sizes I think
173 <jean7491> nero_ : tux flyers (for kids) : you can ask it to guydup
174 <nero_> we should at least have t-shirts for the boot people
175 <JanC> I stil have some tux flyers, and normally he will include them with the multiseat
176 <JanC> (they are multiseat flyers after all)
177 <JanC> nero_: I have 2 or 3 t-shirts for booth people + 1 or 2 caps IIRC
178 <nero_> should be enough if the size fits :)
179 <JanC> plus I'll wear one of my own, and Ward will bring the one he wore at FOSDEM
180 <JanC> 1 M + 2 L t-shirts + 1 cap
181 <jean7491> nero_ : you can print badges "be loco team" : to be printed on 160 gr paper, and eventually plastified with adhesive plastic sheet
182 <nero_> I have 4 such badged on a lanyard
183 <jean7491> ok
184 <jean7491> other question for antwerp ?
185 <nero_> not for now
186 <JanC> nero_: will we have some wall or something to hang things on?
187 <nero_> we have our booth on a side wall
188 <nero_> I'l see with Willem from HCC wat's behind us
189 <jean7491> ok, next item ? dipro brugge 28/02
190 <jean7491> for now, only 2 volunteers in the team (wiki) : we need additional volunteers
191 <pvandewyngaerde1> this is a small fair
192 <jean7491> (yes pieter) and i'm still trying to get new people involved
193 <jean7491> preparation : see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-02-28
194 <jean7491> hopely more next week
195 <jean7491> next item : dipro charleroi 07/03 - no comment from my side
196 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Charleroi_2010-03-07
197 <jean7491> i suppose no other comment
198 <jean7491> next item the digital week 6-12/03
199 <jean7491> as an esample of local initiative : on 11/02 ubuntu-be will be present in ostend with a booth (forum-room bibliotheek Kris Lambert), 2 links ...
200 <JanC> Brugge might be larger (more visitors) than last time because there is no fair in Ostend
201 <jean7491> http://zandletters.be/spip.php?article150, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/DigitalWeek-Ostend_2010-03-11
202 <jean7491> additional volunteers will be welcome, but i've no idea about the potential public (likely limited)
203 * JanC added himself to the wiki for Bruges
204 * |mantas| (~ubuntu@62.235.175.66) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
205 <JanC> ah, they will have a tuxpaint talk too
206 <jean7491> yes, but i've ta ask who is doing that
207 <jean7491> to ask ...
208 <JanC> maybe they can tell the people at the tuxpaint talk that tuxpaint is open source like Ubuntu, so if free paint program is cool --> free OS might be too ☺
209 <jean7491> yes
210 <jean7491> this is a local initiative, we will come back later on this in topic 4
211 <jean7491> i suggest we continue with topic 2 Promotion material
212 <jean7491> Comment about the proposal to burn CD's for Ubuntu-be ? See last week reports (in the wiki)
213 <jean7491> on 5/2 steven leeman wrote some details about hardy heron cd's, link to http://www.kopieer-cd.be/prijzen/cd-produceren-prijsklasse.jsp and the fact that no sponsor logo was used, only url's.
214 <JanC> I think the sponsors were only on the posters & flyers for the release party
215 <JanC> because part of the CDs were used in .nl also
216 <jean7491> and url's on the cd's
217 <JanC> BTW: Guy said he wants to buy at least 200 CDs if we press our own
218 <JanC> (now he has to buy them at the Canonical shop)
219 <JanC> and MarkVDB also said he wants to buy or pay for some
220 <XiaoShiZi> http://www.cdpress.lu/fr/contact/ adress in Luxembourgh (as cd-r are already much cheaper than in Belhium...) maybe they burn them cheaper to.
221 <JanC> not burning, pressing
222 <XiaoShiZi> indeed JanC pressing sorry ;-)
223 <JanC> most companies that offer CD pressing services don't do that themselves BTW
224 <JanC> they outsource it to a small number of real CD-pressing plants
225 <JanC> I think there is one in .nl and a couple in .de as I know, probablky a couple in .fr too,n but I know of no CD pressing plant in .be
226 <XiaoShiZi> Disco-Press Belgium
227 <XiaoShiZi> http://www.crimson-ceremony.net/pr3/pressingplants/index_cd.html
228 <XiaoShiZi> and 2 others
229 <JanC> if they all still exist
230 <jean7491> as we can not solve all problems, we should ask a dedicated team to investigate the possibilities and to make concrete proposals
231 <jean7491> Is someone volunteers to lead the team ?
232 <JanC> I'm sure bbartek wants to help with that, not sure if he wants to lead it again?
233 <jean7491> probably
234 <bbartek> JanC, plop :-)
235 <jean7491> we can discuss in group to define the need what, how many, ..., but we need a small group gathering and investigating informations ...
236 <JanC> bbartek: 't gaat weer over CDs persen ☺
237 <bbartek> I can still do some work like driving to germany to deliver de master cd or something like that but I do not have the time to lead a project
238 <bbartek> ja ik zag 't net
239 <bbartek> ben net hier
240 <bbartek> So if you need me to do some work for the cd's I'm voluteering
241 <JanC> okay, so we need another "team lead" ☺
242 <JanC> anybody volunteering?
243 <jean7491> i will add in the report we need a team leader for this project, and we will see !
244 <jean7491> if someone eventually react ?
245 <jean7491> other comment on this project ?
246 <jean7491> Next topic 3 - support points map status
247 <JanC> well, I think it might be slightly more expensive than burning CD-Rs, but looks better, and saves a lot of time?
248 <JanC> Pierre isn't here, so no support points map update?
249 <jean7491> i have no new information , other comment
250 <jean7491> JanC a last word about cd : burning cd's is only an easy way (but it takes time) , waiting for progress in the project "cd in mass"
251 <jean7491> i suggest topic 4 – things living in the mailing list (at least 2 items)
252 <jean7491> first item : as already mentioned last week, we should find new ways/events to promote ubuntu: all suggestions are welcome!
253 <jean7491> Wamukota suggested ubuntu-be participation in all kind of open doors organized by schools : we can extend this suggestion to all kind of hobby fairs locally organized by associations or cities
254 <jean7491> the participation to the digital week in ostend is an example
255 <jean7491> local initiative is the cornerstone of success : everybody can look for contact and propose activities
256 <JanC> wamukota is also going to do something IIRC
257 <jean7491> indeed in brugge 18/03
258 <jean7491> we should see more initiatives like that
259 <jean7491> comments, suggestions or proposals ?
260 <jean7491> no reaction ? next item ?
261 <jean7491> 2d item (and after that there is a 3d one) about the procedure for re-approval-application : the loco council meeting about the re-approval of our loco team is planned on 16/02 at 21.00 hr.
262 <jean7491> all members of the loco team are invited to take part to the meeting on irc #ubuntu-meeting
263 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
264 <jean7491> the draft is available in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReapprovalApplication2010-Draft, it can be amended till 12/02
265 <jean7491> JanC : how many people subscribed to the mailing list ?
266 <JanC> let me check...
267 <JanC> 393
268 <jean7491> ok
269 <JanC> added that to the wiki
270 <jean7491> i already asked mongolito404 to add a contribution, other comment ?
271 <jean7491> 3d item : Suggestion of a monthly report (JanC) : was supposed to be discuss during fosdem – any progress or comment ?
272 <JanC> not really discussed
273 <JanC> it was way too busy most of the time ☺
274 <jean7491> so nothing new, for next meeting ?
275 <jean7491> other question not in the agenda ?
276 <JanC> yeah, I suppose
277 * pvandewyngaerde1 est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
278 <jean7491> if nothing else to be discussed, my last topic is : next meeting on 17/02/2010 at 21 h.
279 <JanC> well, and 16/2 of course ;-)
280 <jean7491> of course, i don't now if you reviewed the draft or if you have something to add ?
281 <JanC> I read through it already, and will add some things
282 <JanC> normally approval & reapproval are done before any other topics, so I think our reapproval might be directly at 21h
283 <JanC> immediately I mean
284 <JanC> well, maybe 21:15 to allow for people arriving late etc. ;-)
285 <jean7491> ok, are there usually questions about the application or other topic ?
286 <jean7491> i'll validate the draft (change the name) on sunday evening
287 <JanC> jean7491: ping me when you do & I'll add the link to the agenda
288 <JanC> (or do it yourself)
289 <JanC> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda --> where I put "(soon)" now
290 <jean7491> ok, i'll see
291 <jean7491> end of the meeting, thanks to all for your participation, see you next week (17/02), but don't forget the reapproval meeting on 16/02, have a good night !
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