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   1 * Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-03-03 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information 
   2 * Sujet de #ubuntu-be défini par jean7491!~jm@109.236.136.28 le Fri Feb 26 22:17:02 2010 
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   5 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ? 
   6 <warddr> check 
   7 <rulus> check 
   8 <siegie> I'm (but only for a few minutes 
   9 <JanC> o/ (sort of) 
  10 <jean7491> hello warddr , rulus , siegie , JanC 
  11 <pvandewyngaerde> hi 
  12 <jean7491> mimor, ? mongolito404 ? hello pvandewijngaerde 
  13 <mongolito404> Hi 
  14 <jean7491> zuzuzzzip ? hello mongolito404 
  15 <jean7491> i suggest we start with topic 1 – past and future events 
  16 <jean7491> but for sigie, we will start with dipro oostmalle 21/3, and after we follow the agenda 
  17 <jean7491> for siegie ! 
  18 * nero_ (~nero@62.235.163.83) a rejoint #ubuntu-be 
  19 <nero_> hi guys 
  20 <warddr> hello nero_ 
  21 <jean7491> hello nero_ , first for dipro oostmalle 21/3, we have already 1 volunteer in the wiki, 
  22 <jean7491> siegie, can you coordinate the event ? 
  23 <nero_> unfortunatly I'm not free on 21/3 
  24 <rulus> I might be able to help out on the day itself, but I don't have the time to do much orginasation/preparation 
  25 <nero_> unless my agenda changes before 
  26 <jean7491> thank you rulus, your help will be appreciated, are there other volunteers for dipro oostmalle ? 
  27 <warddr> I can not be there 
  28 <jean7491> siegie ?  can you coordinate the event ? 
  29 <siegie> I'm having problems with my internet connection 
  30 <jean7491> siegie , ok, we come back with dipro oostmalle later when your problem with internet connection is solved 
  31 <jean7491> coming back to the agenda, past event : antwerp, hobby & computerdagen (20 – 21/02/2010) - report 
  32 * siegie_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/siegie) a rejoint #ubuntu-be 
  33 <jean7491> nero_ : do you have something to say as report ? 
  34 * jean7491bis (~jm@109.236.136.54) a rejoint #ubuntu-be 
  35 <jean7491> nero_ ? 
  36 * siegie_ est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 
  37 <nero_> Saturday there was a little struggle to obtain more space than only for the multiseat, but at the end we managed to show our stuff 
  38 <nero_> Sunday we had much more people at the booth probably due to 2 other fairs in the same hall that day 
  39 <nero_> Koen(?) didn't appear, and no news about him 
  40 <nero_> But we had help from Ivo from HCC, who is also an Ubuntu user 
  41 <nero_> bottom line: a little more space would jave been welkome 
  42 <nero_> s/jave/have 
  43 <warddr> I agree with nero_ 
  44 * svg est parti (Quit: leaving) 
  45 <jean7491> about koen : he told me he was waiting a mail from you with coordination. , without contact he though he was not necessary to appear 
  46 <nero_> I did not have his email address, and could not find it anywhere 
  47 <jean7491> about space, of course it is difficult to insist for more place when it is offered gratis by hcc ! 
  48 <JanC> the bitmappers might have offered us more space  ;) 
  49 <nero_> and the catering offered by HCC was ok imo 
  50 <warddr> definately 
  51 <siegie> My students home (has currently slowband internet, devided by 23 people), Yes I can cordinate the event, but what is the work with coordination? 
  52 <jean7491> JanC : but the bitmappers didn't offer ! 
  53 <jean7491> siegie : plus minus like last year, we can arrange things through a few mail, main problem is volunteers ... 
  54 <JanC> jean7491: they did have their own Ubuntu-booth actually 
  55 <siegie> last year there was koen, thijs, I don't know if they can come this time. 
  56 <jean7491> siegie : you + rulus = 2, we need 2 other volunteers for oostmalle : koen is not available, i will mail to thijs, can you contact ertai ? 
  57 <siegie> ertai is probably bussy with the organisation of the release party's in the netherlands. But i'll try to contact him 
  58 <jean7491> back to a'pen : main problem is coordination before the event about with who we are working and practical things like place and tables ... 
  59 <jean7491> let's hope wedo better next time ... 
  60 <jean7491> nero_ , warddr , JanC : anything else about a'pen ? 
  61 <warddr> Willem was there and didn't know we were there 
  62 <warddr> (he has seen us there, but if he knew before he would have helped at the boot) 
  63 <nero_> sorry guys, I need to help the wife urgently for half an hour or so 
  64 <jean7491> willem : yes, i had contact later with him, he didn't receive my mail (he had no explanation) 
  65 <jean7491> nero_ ok, 
  66 <jean7491> willem comes likely to the next event in a'pen 
  67 <jean7491> no other comment about a'pen ? 
  68 <warddr> I don't have other comments 
  69 <jean7491> JanC ? 
  70 <warddr> or siegie 
  71 <jean7491> siegie ? 
  72 <JanC> maybe next time look out for a better booth... 
  73 <siegie> i'm going to leave, this meeting. The internet connection is really bad, good evening. It takes minutes before i can see the next line. hopefully beter next time  :) 
  74 <JanC> but otherwise, no comments 
  75 <JanC> bye siegie 
  76 <jean7491> ok siegie, bye 
  77 <jean7491> JanC  "look out for a better booth" : then send me via mail comments for improvement, i was not there and have no idea what you did there ! 
  78 <JanC> jean7491: I mean what warddr & nero_ said before: there wasn't much space for us 
  79 <warddr> we couldn't really move 
  80 <JanC> while the bitmappers booth was mostly about Ubuntu too 
  81 <warddr> and only one side of the multiseat could be used becouse tere was no place to sit down at the other side 
  82 <warddr> because we were showing there some things on our notebooks and we were talking to people with questions 
  83 <JanC> anyway, it's something to think about next year 
  84 <jean7491> ok, likely problem of better coordination with hcc before the event ! 
  85 <JanC> with HCC or others 
  86 <jean7491> yes 
  87 <warddr> and maybe contact bitmappers 
  88 <jean7491> then on the agenda end of the year, for 2011 
  89 <nero_> I'm back :) 
  90 <jean7491> nero_ ok, anything else to add ? 
  91 <nero_> not that I know, everything has been covered afaik 
  92 <jean7491> nero_ please don't forget a few sentences as report in the wiki, just who was there? plus and minus points and finance 
  93 <nero_> I did not had time yet to make an inventory 
  94 <nero_> but we did receive some gifts on Sunday 
  95 <nero_> for other coordinators: a bowl of sweets is indeed an attraction to the booth 
  96 <jean7491> ok : as we receive public gifts, we should mention somewhere (the wiki is a good place) what we received and what we did with the money : it is an additional reason to write a report ! 
  97 <jean7491> i suggest we continue with dipro brugge 
  98 <jean7491> next item : dipro brugge 28/02 
  99 <jean7491> with a team of 4 volunteers everything went ok 
 100 <jean7491> not so many visitors, but several good contacts 
 101 <jean7491> finance : less public gifts, negative saldo approx. 20 euros 
 102 <jean7491> report and pictures : see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-02-28 
 103 <JanC> negative saldo includes 100 CD-Rs though 
 104 <JanC> IIRC 
 105 <jean7491> indeed 
 106 <JanC> without counting all those, we would have run almost break-even 
 107 <jean7491> we have these cd-r for next events 
 108 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg) 
 109 <nero_> better quality than those we buy in a'pen? 
 110 <JanC> nero_: probably not  ;) 
 111 <jean7491> cd-r verbatim 
 112 <jean7491> anything else about brugge ? 
 113 * JanC and Alain talked about starting an Ubuntu/linux club here in Bruges  ;) 
 114 <nero_> we buyed a spindle of 100 cd's for €20,- but there is an lot of drop-out :( 
 115 <jean7491> for the cd-r i bought in kortrijk, i had to burn the iso at medium speed to avoid errors 
 116 <jean7491>  Ubuntu/linux club ? we'll see ! 
 117 <nero_> even at 8x -the  lowest speed I could select- there were failures 
 118 <JanC> indeed, the Ubuntu/linux club depends on having a good location 
 119 <JanC> but it might be useful to start something similar in other places 
 120 <jean7491> indeed, local initiatives are always welcome, but it is again "just do it!" 
 121 <mongolito404> I'm going to bed. 
 122 <mongolito404> There is not progress for the support points map. I've  not woked on it since last meeting. Aslo, there hasn't been any additional registration on the test site since last meeting. 
 123 <mongolito404> Jean, I saw your bug reports on LP and I appreciate. These are good suggestion. 
 124 <mongolito404> Good night all. 
 125 * mongolito404 est parti (Quit: Leaving.) 
 126 <jean7491> mongolito404 : thanks for your input, bye 
 127 <jean7491> next item : dipro charleroi 07/03 
 128 <jean7491> ramtar in charge of this event, and is working in cooperation with 3 local lug's 
 129 <JanC> Cédric contacted Dipro for the booth 
 130 <jean7491> yes, booth has been ordered by cedric, wehope a good cooperation with the 3 lugs 
 131 <jean7491> other comment on charleroi ? 
 132 <jean7491> next item the digital week 6-12/03 – ostend, bree, schoten, ... 
 133 <jean7491> as already announced, ubuntu-be will be present on 11/02 in ostend with a booth (forum-room bibliotheek Kris Lambert) 
 134 <jean7491> see http://zandletters.be/spip.php?article150 
 135 <jean7491> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/DigitalWeek-Ostend_2010-03-11 
 136 <jean7491> additional volunteers and visitors are welcome (at 12-13 hr  and 19-20 hr.) 
 137 <jean7491> ubuntu-be will be present in bree on 7/3 for presentation 
 138 <jean7491> I just read about the digital week in schoten, including presentation of ubuntu, but I don't know who organize the presentation of ubuntu ? 
 139 <JanC> somebody local I suppose 
 140 <rulus> yes someone from the community staff 
 141 <JanC> IIRC the local library uses Ubuntu there 
 142 <JanC> s/community/municipality/ 
 143 <jean7491> ok, but we could help with posters, flyers, cd's ... if we had a contact 
 144 <rulus> yes, that :P 
 145 <rulus> last year there were 'road to freedom' posters, cd's, multiseat, etc 
 146 <rulus> so that should be fine I think 
 147 <JanC> they know us, they can contact us... 
 148 <jean7491> but if we receive no call, we cann't help, nor promote this event 
 149 <JanC> we can promote it... 
 150 <jean7491> without the mail of rulus, we did not know about this event, that's a pity ! 
 151 <JanC> IIRC there was a mail some time ago? 
 152 <jean7491> i don't know ... other comment or next item 
 153 <rulus> I don't know either, I certainly didn't read it 
 154 <rulus> (but that can be because I missed it offcourse) 
 155 <jean7491> rulus , when you visit this event, you could mention that ubuntu-be can help, but we need a request ! 
 156 <JanC> well, maybe I just think that because they did this for several years now 
 157 <rulus> sure jean7491, I was typing something among those lines :) 
 158 <rulus> I'll let them know (but I think they do know it already) 
 159 <JanC> jean7491: maybe you remember when I was at your place I said something about a "Digitale week" event somewhere near Antwerp 
 160 <JanC> anyway, let's go on... 
 161 <jean7491> JanC yes, ... in next topic #4, i will come back on our lack of presence in the digital week 
 162 <jean7491> next item : dipro mechelen 14/3 
 163 <jean7491> already 3 volunteers in the wiki, ... perhaps other people are volunteers ? 
 164 <warddr> I can be there 
 165 <jean7491> warddr : you are already in the wiki ! 
 166 <warddr> am I? 
 167 <jean7491> yes, i added you in the wiki when you confirmed me you were going to dipro mechelen 
 168 <warddr> oh, ok 
 169 <jean7491> with mario (?) and nero_ 
 170 <jean7491> nero_ : can you coordinate this event ? 
 171 <nero_> I think I can magae it 
 172 <nero_> s/mgae/manage/ 
 173 <nero_> Ivo from HCC volunteered also 
 174 <jean7491> nero_ : about promo material, you can mail me, if necessary 
 175 <nero_> Jurgen can't be there 
 176 <nero_> are there A5 ubuntu flyers available somewhere? 
 177 <jean7491> i've a6 flyers 2009 
 178 <jean7491> but we have not yet a5 flyers 
 179 <nero_> I can't imagine those A6 flyres :( 
 180 <warddr> (what does TBC mean?) 
 181 <JanC> "to be confirmed" 
 182 <warddr> ok 
 183 <jean7491> warddr : it is up to you to delete tbc when you are sure to participate 
 184 <nero_> got it, was A6 indeed what I mend 
 185 <nero_> is there something outdated on the 2009 flyers? 
 186 <JanC> see for yourself maybe? 
 187 <jean7491> i've a stock of the printed a6 flyers : flyers are not outdated, not linked to a release 
 188 <nero_> the only one that I have seems to be like that 
 189 <nero_> in a transparent display 
 190 <jean7491> nero_ i mail you a copy, wait 
 191 <jean7491> mail is sent 
 192 <jean7491> nero_ who was in dipro mechelen in december 2009 ? 
 193 <nero_> we had constantly visitors on our booth, some asked questions about other linux distro's 
 194 <nero_> or all kinds of software available on Ubuntu 
 195 <jean7491> nero_ : dipro mechelen 2009,  i found Frank (not present?), Marc, Andy, Wouter : perhaps you could ask their help ? 
 196 <nero_> there was certainly a lot of interest 
 197 <warddr> let's hope that will be the same this year 
 198 <nero_> btw the A6 flyer is the one that I was looking for 
 199 <JanC> are there more future events on the agenda? 
 200 <warddr> the release party 
 201 <warddr> but the wiki is ssssslllllloooooooowwwwwww!!! 
 202 <JanC> okay, I have some more stuff then  ;) 
 203 <warddr> I can't even reach the wiki 
 204 <JanC> 10-14 May 2010 = Ubuntu 10.10 Developer Summit at La Hulpe/Terhulpen near Brussels 
 205 <jean7491> nero_ you can mail to me for the preparation of dipro mechelen, 
 206 <JanC> 16 May = Ubuntu Meeting (release party) in Genk by the Bitmappers 
 207 <JanC> Libre Graphics Meeting 26/27 to 30 May 
 208 <nero_> the release party for hcc is planned on may 3th 
 209 <jean7491> please, we first continue with the agenda - next item : dipro oostmalle 21/3 
 210 <JanC> right, so crazyness all May 
 211 <nero_> who can order the booth for mechelen? 
 212 <jean7491> JanC will order the booth 
 213 <nero_> ok 
 214 <JanC> I will order teh booth *after* I get confirmation  ☺ 
 215 <pvandewyngaerde> today i requested the days of during the UDS, can we help there ? 
 216 <JanC> so please mail me about 1 week before the fair to say you have enough volunteers 
 217 <jean7491> next item : dipro oostmalle 21/3 - we already spoke with siegie 
 218 <jean7491> newt item : dipro genk 28/3 
 219 <jean7491> already 2 volunteers in the wiki, 
 220 <jean7491> but we need a coordinator : perhaps lars ? 
 221 <jean7491> last item of my serial of events : there will likely be several release parties organized by other associaations in brussel (?), mechelen, genk,  … is there a possibility and a will to organize a release party for lucid lynx in the area of ghent? 
 222 <jean7491> nobody from ghent to answer ? 
 223 <JanC> I think with the large release party in Genk, we don't need one in Gent too 
 224 <JanC> or at least nothing more than a bar where we can drink together  ;) 
 225 <warddr> Gent - Genk is about 150 km, that's a lot 
 226 <jean7491> i just read a mail from fabian in the mailing list, i'm not aware about a large rp ? 
 227 <warddr> jean7491, ubuntu-meeting.be 
 228 <JanC> jean7491: they have 3 rooms for presentations 
 229 <JanC> I think we should help promote that 
 230 <warddr> I agree about that, we should definately promote that 
 231 <jean7491> and just asked volunteers in the mailing list : i am always surprised by call like that not adressed to the loco team ! 
 232 <warddr> I can't be there because at that very moment I am studying 
 233 <JanC> I mean, now that somebody is actually organising something  ;) 
 234 <warddr> last bitmappers release party (previouse LTS) it was a succes 
 235 <warddr> the bitmappers are nice people 
 236 <jean7491> on 9/5 we have a boot in dipro a'pen : we could organize there something as a small rp 
 237 <jean7491> nero_ : is hcc organizing a rp in mechelen area ? 
 238 <jean7491> and indymedia in brussel ? 
 239 <nero_> yep, 3 may in HCC 
 240 <rulus> (I'm off, see you next week!) 
 241 <jean7491> bye rulus 
 242 <jean7491> JanC : you mentionned "10-14 May 2010 = Ubuntu 10.10 Developer Summit at La Hulpe/Terhulpen near Brussels" 
 243 <JanC> yep, for those interested... 
 244 <pvandewyngaerde> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M?action=show&redirect=UDS 
 245 <JanC> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M 
 246 <jean7491>  JanC - Libre Graphics Meeting 26/27 to 30 May - something for ubuntu-be ? 
 247 <JanC> yes, we are asked to give a presentation about linux/ubuntu there, I need to ask more exact info though 
 248 <jean7491> we need volunteer(s) to give a presentation : when you know more, we can ask ! 
 249 <warddr> Thats study time for me 
 250 <jean7491> ok warddr - is there anything more about past and future events ? 
 251 <jean7491> then topic 2 - Promotion material 
 252 <warddr> I read there were cd's ordered 
 253 <jean7491> has someone something to say about promotion material in general, and localized cd in particular ? 
 254 <warddr> A localized cd would be nice 
 255 <JanC> no (not yet) 
 256 <jean7491> we did not ordered cd's, afak 
 257 <warddr> jean7491, http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com/msg04267.html 
 258 * pvandewyngaerde est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 
 259 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@87.76-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be 
 260 <jean7491> it is about cedric and activities in charleroi (dipro and rewics) 
 261 <warddr> ok, I have nothing more to say about promotion 
 262 <jean7491> about localized cd's, we are looking for volunteers to lead this project and to investigate the possibilities, including prices-offers, but first we need a leader for such a team 
 263 <jean7491> other comment about promo material ? 
 264 <jean7491> if not, next topic 
 265 <siegie> i'm back online: (The bitmappers are going to give a cd for the people who come to the meeting) Maybe there's some collaboration possible? 
 266 <siegie>  meeting -> release party 
 267 <jean7491> siegie , maybe, but no request from bitmappers to the loco team ! 
 268 <jean7491> Next topic 3 support points map status  - we already had comment from mongolito404 
 269 <jean7491> please visit the website to test the proposal 
 270 <jean7491> see last meeting-report for detail 
 271 <jean7491> next topic 4 – things living in the mailing list 
 272 <warddr> not a lot as usual 
 273 <jean7491> item #1 :  as already mentioned earlier,  we should find new ways/events to promote ubuntu: all suggestions are welcome, like open-doors organized by schools, hobby fairs locally organized by associations or cities, and more recently and open ict day. 
 274 <jean7491> As example, i wonder that within the digital week in vlaanderen, there is only one event announced (in ostend), bree event is not announced as ubuntu presentation,and later schoten 
 275 <jean7491> everybody can contact the local organizators of the digital week for an increased participation in 2011 
 276 <JanC> siegie: in that case we need to make sure we coordinate with them! 
 277 <jean7491> item #2 about the re-approval-application : the loco council has re-approved our application as official loco team. 
 278 <jean7491> just one comment : this is an illustration of the need of reports in the wiki when we (from ubuntu-be) are organizing some activity or participate to events. 
 279 <jean7491> comment ? 
 280 <JanC> jean7491: I just found out the "Digitale Week" is organized by VSNG, which also sponsors other "digital alphabetism" stuff 
 281 <siegie> jean7491 I've still no response from jan V B, for the promotion material for bree. 
 282 <JanC> well, co-organized or something 
 283 <jean7491> siegie, i mailed to jan vb yesterday, but no answer (yet) 
 284 <jean7491> JanC : local initiative is necessary to participate actively (and locally) to the digital week, 
 285 <JanC> jean7491: right, I saw that 
 286 <JanC> but they could probably sponsor other events too 
 287 <jean7491> next item ? 
 288 <jean7491> who they ? 
 289 <JanC> VSNG 
 290 <JanC> http://vsng.be/ -> Vlaams Steunpunt Nieuwe Geletterdheid 
 291 <JanC> they sponsor the "digitale week" events 
 292 <jean7491> yes, and we can participate (if we ask, like in ostend) 
 293 <JanC> it's basically how the Flemish government finances anything that tries to get more people on-line 
 294 <JanC> so they might be useful outside the Digitale Week too 
 295 <jean7491> yes 
 296 <JanC> I just wanted to point that out, so it gets recorded somewhere  ☺ 
 297 <jean7491> the only problem is that we (everybody) need to propose activities : local initiatives ... 
 298 <jean7491> if no other comment, next item 
 299 <jean7491> item #3 : e few weeks ago, JanC suggested to start a monthly report : nice, but we are still looking for a volunteer ? 
 300 <jean7491> is someone volunteer to be in charge of this monthly report ? 
 301 <jean7491> before a possible answer (?), i propose next meeting on 10/03/2010 at 21 h. 
 302 <nero_> i got to go 
 303 <jean7491> if no other reaction, we can conclude this meeting, thanks to all for your participation, i'll see you next week ! 
 304 <JanC> see you all next week  ☺