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   1 * Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est :  http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-03-17 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   2 * Sujet de #ubuntu-be défini par jean7491!~jm@109.236.136.176 le Thu Mar 11 22:48:17 2010
   3 * #ubuntu-be :http://www.ubuntu-be.org/
   4 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   5 <nero> check, although i'm verry distracted by my environment for the moment ;)
   6 <jean7491> hello nero 
   7 <jean7491> Gh0sty ? hfsdo ? JanC ? mimor ?  rulus ? siegie ? and others ?
   8 <rulus> hello
   9 <rulus> good evening all
  10 <jean7491> hello rulus 
  11 <nero> hi rulus
  12 <JanC> present
  13 * yanu est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
  14 <jean7491> hi JanC
  15 <nero> hi JanC
  16 <jean7491> mimor ? siegie ?
  17 * nero est parti (Quit: Leaving)
  18 * nero (~nero@ip-62-235-173-189.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  19 <jean7491> let's start now with topic 1 – past and future events 
  20 <jean7491> about the digital week 6-12/03 
  21 <jean7491> no information from schoten ? 
  22 <jean7491> rulus ?
  23 <rulus> it was nice, but I didn't stay a very long time
  24 <rulus> very nice location, quite a lot of visitors (more as last year)
  25 <rulus> lot of multiseat pc's
  26 <rulus> sessions were very 'intimate', lot of time to ask questions :)
  27 <JanC> good
  28 <jean7491> how were the sessions organized ? how many presentators? what? how long ?
  29 <rulus> I think about 5/6 presentators, giving live demonstration on their laptop connected to a beamer
  30 <rulus> about Ubuntu, Gimp, Drupal, Voip mostly
  31 <rulus> length varying around an average of ca. 30 I guess
  32 <rulus> minutes that is
  33 <jean7491> sorry, my pc crashed ! i lost messages after "minutes that is"
  34 <rulus> there weren't any :)
  35 <pvandewyngaerde> is that a ubuntu pc that crashed ?
  36 * jean7491bis (~jean74911@109.236.143.102) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  37 <JanC> jean7491: you didn't really miss anything
  38 <jean7491> ok, a few words about ostend
  39 <jean7491> on 11/03, ubuntu-be has been presented in ostend (bibliotheek Kris Lambert) in 2 sessions.
  40 <jean7491> about 25 people at noon and 12 people in the evening assist to the presentation, public was  interested with a lot of questions
  41 <jean7491> Not enough time at noon, and 45 min questions and exchanges in the evening.
  42 <jean7491> approx 30 min for 4 presentations, see wiki
  43 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/DigitalWeek-Ostend_2010-03-11
  44 <jean7491> for me, very positive experience, imho we should repeat such a presentation at other time and place to reach a larger public.
  45 <jean7491> hello pvandewyngaerde , and thanks for your help in ostend
  46 <pvandewyngaerde> anytime, but it was short for me
  47 <jean7491> short but you helped me!
  48 <jean7491> i hope ubuntu-be will be more present in the digital week 2011 ! but it needs local contacts
  49 <jean7491> comment ?
  50 <JanC> digitale week or other events, *everything* done is useful of course
  51 <jean7491> next item : dipro mechelen 14/3 - report
  52 <jean7491> nero_ , do you have something to report now
  53 <nero> as I mentioned in my mail, we had a lot interest before 14:00
  54 <nero> afterwards there were less visitors at the fair
  55 <JanC> that's not uncommon
  56 <nero> questions were very differentiated
  57 <JanC> probably also some cycling race going on...
  58 <nero> visitors tend to come early
  59 <nero> our internet connection came in handy at several occasions
  60 <nero> there was some interest for the upcoming release parties
  61 <nero> we received enough gifts to pay the booth
  62 <nero> there's even something left over
  63 <JanC> nice
  64 <jean7491> thanks nero for the report, anything else to add ?
  65 <nero> I did send you a short report in Dutch, will you puplish the relevant parts?
  66 <jean7491> ok, i'do (only for dipro mechelen)
  67 <jean7491> don't forget the pics
  68 <nero> what size is best for publishing?
  69 <jean7491> don't know, i do it <200 ko in +/- 700x500
  70 <nero> I'll try that
  71 <jean7491> eventually send me the pics and i'll do it
  72 <jean7491> next item : dipro oostmalle 21/3
  73 <JanC> do we have volunteers?
  74 <jean7491> 2 volunteers are  in the wiki,  
  75 <jean7491> of course we still need 1 or 2 additional volunteers for the booth ...
  76 <jean7491> but no last minute information from siegie ...
  77 <JanC> well, 2 could also work maybe, but we need their confirmation
  78 <siegie> i'm just home
  79 <siegie> At the moment there's only me and rulus, there was no response on the call on the ubuntu-nl forum. Only one person who can maybe help in gent.
  80 <siegie> I've contacted ertai to but, he had something in eindhoven.
  81 <JanC> can you do the fair with two people?
  82 <siegie> I have the material in my home (cd, posters), so it would a waste if we can't do the fair
  83 <rulus> I'm available sunday, no problem to do it with 2 for me
  84 <JanC> if you & rulus are okay with it, I can order the booth
  85 <siegie> rulus: do you think it's possible with 2 people, last time in oostmalle there where not so many people.
  86 <siegie> ah okey :)
  87 <rulus> don't know how many people normally come, but I don't expect huge buses arriving in Oostmalle :P
  88 <JanC> why not?
  89 <rulus> it's been a long time since I've been at a dipro fair
  90 <jean7491> siegie : of course you can use for oostmalle the material that you had for jan vanbogget in bree
  91 <rulus> JanC: well, it's not a very big city I think, but I can be wrong
  92 <siegie> jean7491: yes i think, it would but difficult to bring the cd 9.10 to another fair before the release :)
  93 <siegie> rulus, I will update the wiki, this evening. Material that i can bring etc..
  94 <nero> Saturday I have to go to Breda, can I pass by someone to bring pannels & 9.10 cd's leftover?
  95 <rulus> ok nice :)
  96 <siegie> JanC: do you oder the booth?
  97 <JanC> I'll order the booth
  98 <siegie> Okey thanks :)
  99 <JanC> I also still have 9.10 CDs here, but too late to get them to A'pen I guess
 100 <JanC> I wonder if we can get them to Genk maybe
 101 <JanC> otherwise, we can use them in Ghent, but of course that's just before the release
 102 <jean7491> genk of ghent, we will see ... ?
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 104 <JanC> I can mail some to siegie or rulus, but not sure if 1 day will be enough for the Post to deliver
 105 <JanC> hello bbartek
 106 * hfsdo est parti (Quit: Leaving)
 107 <rulus> nero: you mean to me or siegie?
 108 <jean7491> rulus or siegie : nero had material for you (pannels and cd's), can you give a rendez-vous on saturday when he is going to breda
 109 <nero> yep
 110 <rulus> I live not that far from the E19, exit 4
 111 <rulus> let me check
 112 <rulus> you can leave the E19 at exit 4, pass at my house and then take nr. 3 again to continue to Breda
 113 <jean7491> rulus , siegie : you can see the pannels with posters in the wiki brugge picture nr 2 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-02-28
 114 <rulus> or we can meet at the P+R at exit 4
 115 <nero> actually I don't have a clue of my return time
 116 <bbartek> plop JanC  :-)
 117 <nero> in the morning it will be ± 09:00
 118 <nero> return foreseen about 17:00h
 119 <rulus> no problem
 120 <jean7491> rulus , nero : can you exchange your information (gsm nr ?) for the contact through pm or dialog
 121 <JanC> nero/rulus: you both can talk about this in private I suppose, then we can move on with the meeting
 122 <rulus> sure, will do
 123 <nero> sure
 124 <jean7491> thanks, anything else for oostmalle ?
 125 <siegie> I think not
 126 <jean7491> ok next item : dipro genk 28/3
 127 <jean7491> claudio will coordinate the booth, for the moment, only 2 volunteers
 128 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
 129 <jean7491> claudio is looking for more volunteers (if possible !)
 130 <jean7491> next item ...
 131 <jean7491> dipro ghent 18/4 (?)
 132 <jean7491> (?) as after the dipro in januari, there were comments/remarks about too many dipro fairs in ghent
 133 <jean7491> mimor ? comment ?
 134 <siegie> verhelsttje on ubuntu-nl would maybe help. http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/ubuntu-nl/hulp-gevraagd-voor-ubuntu-stand-op-dipro-beurzen/ but he's not on the wiki yet
 135 <jean7491> or Gh0sty ?
 136 <JanC> last time there was an important cyclocross competition IIRC
 137 <jean7491> siegie : ok, i noted his name in forum-nl !
 138 <JanC> always means less visitors, especially in the afternoon
 139 <Gh0sty> i dont think i will be participating in much ubuntu stuff anymore
 140 <Gh0sty> got a load of other work and personal things to do :/
 141 <JanC> we can see, it's still a "long" time (April)
 142 <jean7491> ok, next item Release parties Lucid Lynx 10.04LTS
 143 <jean7491> - already announced in mechelen (hcc) and genk (bitmappers) (and perhaps in brussels ?)
 144 <jean7491> hcc mechelen : nero - something to add ?
 145 <pvandewyngaerde> and maybe one in gent ??  at the new whitespace / hackerspace ?? see mailinglist ?
 146 <jean7491> - ghent : is there a possibility and a will to organize a release party for lucid lynx in the area of ghent?
 147 <jean7491> mimor is trying to move in this matter
 148 <jean7491> other question : - antwerp :  is there a possibility and a will to add something rp-lookalike to antwerp dipro on 9/5 ? ...
 149 <jean7491> i hope to discuss this point with people from a'pen area, in the following weeks
 150 <JanC> I think we should promote the one in Genk mostly, they do a lot of work
 151 <JanC> maybe small parties in other places are cool too though
 152 <JanC> even if only to have a drink
 153 <siegie> JanC: idd genk is planned to be bigger than the release party in herk de stad 2 years ago
 154 <JanC> but we shouldn't overload teh agenda
 155 * XiaoShiZi (~XiaoShiZi@94-226-250-119.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 156 <JanC> I think we should promote Genk to be the "main" release party
 157 <jean7491> it is indeed the main rp from bitmappers, i don't see it as main party for ubuntu-be as we were and are not involved 
 158 <jean7491> only 1 message in the mailing list, but of course we relay the information through our channel
 159 <JanC> well, some of us will probably be involved (even if not in the main organisation)
 160 <JanC> I agree that more cooperation would be useful
 161 <JanC> but OTOH, nobody else in ubuntu-be wants to organise an alternative  ;)
 162 <siegie> The hcc one is just the next meeting, i don't think they've organized something special
 163 <JanC> siegie: they will probably show of lucid & offer install support or something
 164 <siegie> yeah, something like that.
 165 <siegie> but i'm going to leave, have to do much work for school tomorrow. Good night all
 166 <jean7491> for these reasons i'm suggesting  a rp in ghent, as the more active members are from the areas close to ghent
 167 <jean7491> good night siegie !
 168 <rulus> bye siegie
 169 <JanC> if it's just for a drink then okay
 170 <jean7491> we'll see later for rp in ghent
 171 <jean7491> anything about other events ?
 172 <JanC> IIRC teh release is on 29th ?
 173 <jean7491> yes
 174 <jean7491> other events ?
 175 <jean7491> nothing for other events ?
 176 <JanC> well, post-release there is UDS-M and LGM2010
 177 <JanC> but not much to be said about that now
 178 <jean7491> no new info ?
 179 <JanC> UDS-M is for developers & other people who help with Ubuntu
 180 <JanC> nothing now
 181 <jean7491> ok, next topic 
 182 <jean7491> topic 2 - Promotion 
 183 <jean7491> as ramtar suggested last week, our actions are not promoted through the medias. ...
 184 <jean7491> we need a public-relation team helping to promote ubuntu information and activities in the media.
 185 <jean7491> comment ?
 186 <rulus> I think press releases are a good start, if we make a press release for the Lucid release mentioning release party's it might get picked up more easily
 187 <JanC> that's mostly useful for "bigger" events
 188 <JanC> like releases and such
 189 <JanC> maybe we can ask the bitmappers to do a joint press release?
 190 <JanC> about the release?
 191 <rulus> good idea
 192 <JanC> I'll mail them to ask (I have something other to mail them about too)
 193 <jean7491> ok
 194 <jean7491> other comment about the idea of a press release with mention of all rp's we will know about ?
 195 <jean7491> and more general about the idea of a pr team ?
 196 <JanC> I think we can best link to a web page to list all release parties
 197 <JanC> and a PR team is good of course
 198 <JanC> we had one once, but those people aren't very active anymore...
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 200 * yanu est parti (Changing host)
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 202 <jean7491> then it is necessary whe start again with a new pr team
 203 <JanC> if we have volunteers, then that's certainly welcome, yes
 204 <jean7491> of course the question is "who is volunteer ?"
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 206 <jean7491> we could start echanges on this topic in the mailing list (hoping for a miracle)
 207 <JanC> I'm sure MarkVDB will be happy to help with some things (e.g. he has a list of press contacts)
 208 <jean7491> ok
 209 <JanC> I'm also not sure how much a press release through Belga costs
 210 <jean7491> no idea, question for the pr-team!
 211 <JanC> it's not cheap, although IIRC they have a free unfiltered option too
 212 <jean7491> other comment on the pr ?
 213 <jean7491> if not, next item : the cd's
 214 <jean7491> comment about the proposal to burn CD's for Ubuntu-be ? 
 215 <jean7491> no comment ? no volunteer ? 
 216 <jean7491> then next topic# 3 support points map status 
 217 <jean7491> i suppose that without mongolito404 , we can skip this topic
 218 <jean7491> ?
 219 <JanC> yeah
 220 <jean7491> topic 4 – things living in the mailing list 
 221 <jean7491> item #1 :   new ways/events to promote ubuntu: all suggestions are welcome, but no suggestion !
 222 <jean7491> no idea ?
 223 <jean7491> other question not in the agenda ?
 224 <JanC> hm, I was thinking about something earlier today, but can't remember what now  :P
 225 <jean7491> pvandewyngaerde about linuxbabel ?
 226 <jean7491> if no question, last topic - next meeting on 24/03/2010 at 21 h. 
 227 <JanC> k
 228 <jean7491> ok, then end of the meeting, thanks to all for your participation !
 229 * nero est parti (Disconnected by services)
 230 <rulus> thanks to you jean7491!
 231 * nero_ (~nero@ip-62-235-173-189.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 232 <rulus> good night
 233 <jean7491> bye