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   1 * Topic #ubuntu-be :  http://ubuntu-be.org | get supp http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2010-03-31 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   2 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
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   4 * jean7491bis (~jean74911@109.236.142.114) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   5 <jean7491> hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   6 <Clamam> i am
   7 <mandel> ditto
   8 <jean7491> hello Clamam , mandel
   9 <jean7491> hfsdo ? JanC ? mimor ? mongolito404 ?  rulus ? siegie ? and others ?
  10 <mimor> i'll bbee in 10 min's
  11 <jean7491> hfsdo ? JanC ? mongolito404 ?  rulus ? siegie ? and others ? we are waiting for you !
  12 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@35.63-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  13 <jean7491> pvandewyngaerde ? are you coming for the meeting ?
  14 <pvandewyngaerde> yes, but i am watching football
  15 <jean7491> Clamam , mandel : we wait another few minutes before starting, ok pieter, anybody else for the meeting ?
  16 <mandel> jean7491, ping me when ready ;)
  17 <jean7491> ok
  18 * mimor is present :)
  19 <JanC> I'm around
  20 <jean7491> Clamam , mandel ,  mimor , JanC ,  pvandewyngaerde , we start the meeting now
  21 <jean7491> topic 1 – past and future events 
  22 <jean7491>  first t item : dipro genk 28/3-report
  23 <jean7491> for what I heard, the booth was successful.
  24 <jean7491> Clamam, can you tell more about this event ? 
  25 <Clamam> In general we can say that it was a good but nut too busy fair, there were people who showed interest but most came back again at every fair and then they have had all the necessary explanations before. Those who have took the time to stop we have helped them to show what Ubuntu is about. Most were interested in a dual-boot system with Windows and Ubuntu, the prepared presentations have proven their service.
  26 <Clamam>   
  27 <Clamam>                  The 2 netbooks of Koen and Massimiliano respectively. 10.04 and 9.10 attracted much attention because the visitors had an eye for such a small all-rounder with a beauty of an operating system.
  28 <Clamam>   
  29 <Clamam>  I also had a laptop which is has 10.04 Beta1, this was very successful because the Ubuntero's on the fair were curious about the latest changes of the operating system.
  30 <Clamam>   
  31 <Clamam> The Bitmappers Computer Club were also there and they had asked Dipro to put both stands together, giving us almost 10 meter of promotion for Ubuntu. The relationship was good and definitely worth repeating. The Bitmappers did promote their releasemeeting (releaseparty) of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on May 16, 2010 in the CC of Genk. http://www.ubuntu-meeting.be/
  32 <JanC> good to hear that
  33 <mandel> Clamam, I love the fact that you guys are building a realtion with the Bitmappers, certainly that is something to really encourage
  34 <jean7491> thx Clamam , other comment ? 
  35 <Clamam> i am also promoting the releaseparty at the different IT-departements around my workplace
  36 <Clamam> i think it's better to promote Ubuntu , it doesn't metter h
  37 <Clamam> what organisation is doeing the event
  38 <jean7491> indeed
  39 <mandel> certainly, there should not be egos involved in the promotion
  40 <mandel> what about showing one of this ads in the Dipros: http://www.google.be/search?q=ubuntu+ads+youtube&hl=en&client=opera&hs=bUO&rls=en&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=Gp2zS5HECsqJ4Qax6qm2Ag&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQqwQwAA
  41 <mandel> some nice music and Apple like ads should get people interested, and we could custom them to matchthe be group
  42 <mandel> sorry for the nasty url ;)
  43 <mimor> that's indeed a wonderfull idea
  44 <mimor> didn't even know about these ads ><
  45 <jean7491> let your imagination works for the next dipro in ghent on 18/4 !
  46 <mimor> jup
  47 <mimor> guess there'll be another meeting wwith kenneth  for that ;)
  48 <mandel> who is willing to give it a go?
  49 <mandel> I mean, do the add? maybe one in each lang showing off the new stuff
  50 <Clamam> The Bitmappers computerclub have a nice Video showing the difference between Ubuntu and Windows, it's funny to.
  51 <jean7491> last comment about genk : Clamam , did you saw the next dipro in hasselt on 26/9 : think on time about looking for the  team
  52 * tunix (~AndChat@188.188.106.235) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  53 <JanC> is it freely available?
  54 <selckin> what i wouldn't give to mail gmail's 'm' go to the next unread
  55 <JanC> Clamam: is their video freely available?
  56 <Clamam> i have to ask them, they are going to show it again at the releasemeeting
  57 <jean7491> next item : dipro ghent 18/4 
  58 <jean7491> kenneth will coordinate the booth,
  59 <jean7491> a few names are already in te wiki
  60 <jean7491> the team is not yet complete, additional volunteers will be welcome
  61 <jean7491> other comment about ghent dipro ?
  62 <mimor> there are 7 ppl on the wiki
  63 <mimor> shouldn't that be enough?
  64 <jean7491> if not enough, add places for volunteers !
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  66 <mimor> also: coordination meeting on 25/01/2010 ?
  67 <mimor> ow
  68 <mimor> looking on the wrong one ><
  69 <mimor> My bad :(
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  71 <mimor> ... 3 ppl on it
  72 <mimor> pvandewyngaerde, you're comming too?
  73 <mimor> mandel ?
  74 <pvandewyngaerde> last year it was the 19th,   that 's my B-day
  75 <mimor> that's noted :D
  76 <mandel> mimor, where is it, Ghent?
  77 <mimor> jup
  78 <mimor> ICC
  79 <mandel> mimor, if you need me, I'll go ;)
  80 <mimor> you've been taking pictures there last time ><µ
  81 <mandel> mimor, ok, I'll put my name up for that one
  82 <mimor> Whoooo!!!!! thx ^^
  83 <JanC> I'll probably go to Ghent too
  84 <mimor> fill in the wiki if you want to be present
  85 <jean7491> on 28/03/10 19:30 joris told in the ml that he will be present
  86 <mimor> (also note if you'll only help for a few hours)
  87 <jean7491> mimor , please see the mail from joris and add him in the wiki
  88 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Gent_2010-04-18
  89 <jean7491> other comment for dipro ghent ?
  90 <mandel> jean7491, ths, wa looking for that ;)
  91 <mimor> there will be another prep. meeting for the dipro I guess
  92 <mimor> Kenneth can't join us on Wednesdays
  93 <mimor> The date'll be discussed on the ML
  94 <JanC> that would be good
  95 <jean7491> it is up to you (team ghent)
  96 <jean7491> next item : release parties Lucid Lynx 10.04lts 
  97 * pvandewyngaerde est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  98 <mimor> whiii
  99 <jean7491>  - i've nothing to add to the already announced parties in mechelen on 3/5 by hcc vlaanderen, in genk (cultuurcentrum) on 16/5  by the bitmappers (big event) and in brussels on 9/5 by dewereldmorgen.be (ex-indymedia)
 100 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@35.63-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 101 <jean7491> yes, just 1 remark ...
 102 <mimor> You forgot about mine? :§
 103 <jean7491> i wonder why nobody added the rp in genk in the agenda on the website ... mimor, wait
 104 <mimor> k
 105 <jean7491> i already add all the dipro fairs, i suppose someone else can add events in the calendar ! same remark for other events like uds, and others ...
 106 <jean7491>  - ghent : ...
 107 <jean7491> mimor started with organization of the release party in whitespace (hackers)
 108 <jean7491> mimor, comments ?
 109 <mimor> yes
 110 <mimor> :)
 111 <pvandewyngaerde> nice place they have, if you find it
 112 <mimor> it'll be a long day of RP :)
 113 <mimor> I'll update my website with the how to get there and stuff and put links to it on related pages (such as wiki) - it's a video
 114 <mimor> It'll start at around 13h
 115 <mimor> and I want to start with 'lightning talks'
 116 <mimor> I already had 1 guy with the balls to talk about something
 117 * mimor wants to express his thx again to mandel ;)
 118 <mimor> So now, I'm looking for some more people
 119 <mimor> I'd like to do a talk about the mayor changes in Ubuntu 10.04
 120 <mimor> so that's 2 talks :)
 121 <mimor> but I seriously want some more
 122 <mimor> if someone has an interesting talk about Ubuntu relates stuff (might be technical as there prob. be people with quite a lot of knowledge :)
 123 <JanC> mimor: remember you also need personel for the whole day  ☺
 124 <mimor> I'll be there JanC  :D
 125 <mimor> and as there is a meeting in Brussels for dev's.
 126 <mimor> I was wondering if we could possibly ask some of the dev's to do a talk at the RP?
 127 <mimor> mandel, JanC do you know possible people to talk? so yes, let me know
 128 <JanC> well, not Brussels, rather somewhere halfway Hoeilaart & La Hulpe in the middle of nowhere  :P
 129 <mimor> There'll be a request for speakers on the mailinglist too
 130 <mimor> oh k
 131 <mimor> the same... it's Belgium... so it's close :P
 132 <mandel> JanC, yes, I looked at that... in Dallas was the same thing.. and lots of text mex food hehe
 133 <mandel> mimor, I'll ask around
 134 <mimor> would be great
 135 <jean7491> what about the promotion of the rp in ghent ?
 136 <mimor> There is almost no art-work to be found on the internet of lynx
 137 <mimor> and my friend who made the awesome one for the previous RP has too much work right now :(
 138 <mimor> and I suck in the color world, so if someone has some arty-party-skills... pretty plz :)
 139 <mimor> to be short
 140 <JanC> the new artwork is not available yet
 141 <mandel> mimor, I've got the t-shirt for 10.4 that has a nice lynx, would you like me to scan it and send it?
 142 <JanC> as in logos, the new font, etc.
 143 <mimor> mandel, YES YES YES!!!
 144 <mandel> I think I have the new one...
 145 <mandel> or at least official one :P
 146 <jean7491> i'm not speaking about flyers or posters, but where and for which group of people ? school ? clubs, ...
 147 <JanC> mandel: I mean serioeus quality artwork, not scans of t-shirts  :P
 148 <mimor> jean7491, it's open to everyone that's interested
 149 <mandel> JanC, ofcourse hehe, but you can scan it and vectorize the image ;)
 150 <mimor> from starters to NASA people
 151 <mimor> :D
 152 <JanC> mandel: it will be distorted...
 153 <JanC> it can work as a placeholder though
 154 <jean7491> ok, but if you are not promoting actively the rp, nobody (except the ml) will know it !
 155 <JanC> but so could the logo image in the wiki
 156 <mandel> JanC, I'll see what I can do with it... it is worth a try
 157 <JanC> also, we still lack the new font  :-(
 158 <jean7491> other comment for the rp ghent ?
 159 <mimor> wait jean7491
 160 <mandel> JanC, true.. I've heard kubuntu just got the k hehe
 161 <mimor> it's on uitingent.be
 162 <mimor> i've put it in the database with events in ghent
 163 <mimor> so it'll be on different websites just by that
 164 <mimor> I've put it on the ubuntu-nl forum
 165 <jean7491> and i put it on the agenda of the site ubuntu-be !
 166 <JanC> mandel: the font glyphs are (mostly) ready, but they are still working on kerning & hinting & tweaking & such
 167 <mimor> http://uitingent.be/Evenement_detail.aspx?idEvent=30531
 168 <mimor> if someone has contact with the bitmappes, it would be nice if they could like 'testdrive' their demo's or talks on the Ghent RP too :)
 169 <mandel> JanC, types have always been hard, but so far it looks great
 170 <mimor> we should have more collaboration between the ReleaseParty teams
 171 <mimor> it's also on releaseparty.eu http://www.releaseparty.eu/show.php5?release-party=lucid-releaseparty-gent-%28be%29
 172 <mimor> guess that's about it for the promotion till now :s
 173 <mimor> it's pretty much 2 people wanting to talk (so far) and already quite a lot of people shown interest in attending ><
 174 <mimor> still need mayor help on finding talking people
 175 <mandel> mimor, who is the second ;)
 176 <mimor> I am <<
 177 <jean7491> other comment for the rp ghent ?
 178 <mimor> guess that'll be it for now jean7491
 179 <jean7491>  - in antwerp : ...
 180 <mimor> if there is a major change... it'll be on the ML
 181 <jean7491>  with local ubunteros we plan to organize an install or launch party within the ubuntu-be booth at dipro 9/5 (in the afternoon)
 182 <jean7491> a (6m. x 4 m.) booth seems possible,
 183 <jean7491> if enough volunteers 
 184 <jean7491> nd active promotion in area of antwerp 
 185 <jean7491> main problem will be promotion in antwerp area to attract people in the afternoon : how promote the event with a limited cost ?
 186 <jean7491> another difficulty is the dipro entry 7 euros
 187 <jean7491> preparation is ongoing
 188 <jean7491> comments ?
 189 <JanC> try to get it in the local newspapers / magazines ?
 190 <jean7491> indeed, but i've limited info in oostende ! i already asked for 
 191 <JanC> yep, local people have to look into that
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 193 <jean7491> ... to people in a'pen
 194 <jean7491> next item :...
 195 <JanC> probably they also have a site like mimor uses in Ghent
 196 <jean7491> yes
 197 <jean7491> i suppose
 198 <jean7491> next item : other events ?
 199 <jean7491> these events are not in the agenda on our website
 200 <jean7491> Anything to add for these events ?  uds ? lgm ?
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 202 <JanC> nothing new AFAIK
 203 <Clamam> i have just put the releasemeeting @ genk in the agenda
 204 <jean7491> thx Clamam , topic 2 - Promotion 
 205 <jean7491> item #1 – comment about  a public-relation team proposed in the previous meetings ?
 206 <jean7491>  first work should be to write and disseminate an article about the release of 10.04lts
 207 <jean7491> are there volunteers to work on this project ?
 208 <mimor> we should use pastebin and all contribute to it?
 209 <mimor> or some wiki page :D
 210 <jean7491> JanC something about press release with bitmappers ? 
 211 <jean7491> mimor : yes indeed, just who will be in charge or leader ?
 212 <mimor> uhuh
 213 <mimor> k I will be :D
 214 <mimor> for the Release notes that is
 215 <mimor> but I guess there are far more people whom know something about it atm :P
 216 <jean7491> mimor : perhaps you can think about a press release for your rp in local newspapers in ghent ?
 217 <mimor> jean7491, that'll draw too many people to it I guess
 218 <mimor> But we can try to get it published in papers
 219 <mimor> so first, we'll need to have a press release
 220 <mimor> 'or something like that'
 221 <Clamam> i must go now, bye
 222 * Clamam (~claudio@d51A51CAF.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 223 <mimor> I've got no experience in the world of publishing or presswriting >< (or whatever you want to call it)
 224 <jean7491> press release is not only information about your rp to draw people to it
 225 <JanC> we can mention it in the national press release
 226 <mimor> ^^
 227 <mimor> I'd rather not
 228 <JanC> just mention the cities, not extensive info  ;)
 229 <mimor> jups
 230 <JanC> peopel can find more info if they want
 231 <mimor> main purpose if you'll publish it... you want to inform people about Ubuntu, not about the RP
 232 <JanC> just showing it's popular all over the country  ;)
 233 <mimor> jups
 234 <mimor> :)
 235 <jean7491> very nice ideas, who will do it ?
 236 <mimor> so I'll start writing something tomorrow, post it on a wiki page (to break the ice)
 237 <mimor> then other people can add their own note
 238 <mimor> we'll see how that goes
 239 <mimor> someone knows if Canonical has something like a Release Note aimed for press-release
 240 <mimor> so I can take it as an example
 241 <JanC> release notes are way too long for PR  ☺
 242 <jean7491> mimor think about where in the wiki ? i suggest within par. 6 of the be main page
 243 <mimor> i'll check what's the best place
 244 <jean7491> in par 6. 1st item is Ubuntu related press releases, 2d can be ubuntu-be press release
 245 <mimor> if it's a start-shot for a propaganda-team, there should be something as /BelgianTeam/Propaganda/ReleaseNotes
 246 <mimor> or something
 247 <mimor> k :)
 248 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
 249 <JanC> make sure to include release name or version...
 250 <jean7491> or  /BelgianTeam/BelgianPress/PressReleases/Year/Event
 251 <mimor> ^^ JanC that quite obvious I guess
 252 <jean7491> don't use "propaganda" 
 253 * tunix est parti (Quit: Bye)
 254 <jean7491> next item ?
 255 <jean7491> item #2 - comment about the proposal to burn CD's for Ubuntu-be ?
 256 <jean7491>   as there is a limited interest for this item, it will be forgotten in the next meetings (for now)
 257 <jean7491>  topic 3 support points map status :  mongolito404  ?
 258 <mongolito404> Mmm you catch me when I was coming back to shut my computer off.
 259 <jean7491> nothing to mention, next topic ...
 260 <jean7491> anything to mention ?
 261 <mongolito404> But yeah, nothing to mention. I still have to take the time to release what I've got.
 262 <jean7491> ok, thanks to that all
 263 <mongolito404> I hadn't much feedback but the thing looks solid enough for a first release and migration of the existing data.
 264 <jean7491> for the migration, i suppose you thought about a message to all support points asking for confirmation or re-inscription ?
 265 <mongolito404> Since login requires Launchpad id, I can create account. But I can match existing accounts to at least import the data for those.
 266 <mongolito404> And provides a list, or even send mail, for account on the old map without a matching account on the website.
 267 <selckin> let me know when i can nuke the vm
 268 <jean7491> i mean asking support points if there are always working with, if no answer, they have to be scrapped from the database
 269 <mongolito404> Yes, for existing support point I can match existing users account on the website and import the data but without commitments.
 270 <mongolito404> For support points without a matching account, I can mail them.
 271 <mongolito404> So users with an existing account on the website won't have to re-encode their data.
 272 <mongolito404> And existing support points will be invited to register on the web-site.
 273 <mongolito404> And existing support points *without an account* will be invited to register on the website.
 274 <jean7491> how long is such inscription or account on launchpad valid ? 
 275 <jean7491> without action of the owner of the account ?
 276 <mongolito404> Account on the website are never deactivated.
 277 <mongolito404> And the current support points module doesn't provide commitments expiration.
 278 <mongolito404> That's why I don't plan to import commitments for existing accounts. Only points localisation, languages, etc.
 279 <jean7491> i mean support points have to confirm regularly their engagement, otherwise we did not solve the problem of not active support points
 280 <mongolito404> And invite them to renew their commitments by updating their profiles.
 281 <mongolito404> Yes, that a next step for the module which has not yet been written.
 282 <jean7491> ok
 283 <jean7491> thanks for the information and the work !
 284 <jean7491> now you can shut down your computer !
 285 <mongolito404> :D
 286 <jean7491>  topic 4 – things living in the mailing list 
 287 <mongolito404> Good night all and thank you for the work too. Looking forward to read today's report.
 288 * mongolito404 est parti (Quit: Leaving.)
 289 <jean7491> item #1 :   new ways/events to promote ubuntu: all suggestions are welcome,  ...
 290 <jean7491> but there is no suggestion !
 291 <jean7491> comment or suggestion ?
 292 <jean7491> other questions not in the agenda ?
 293 <jean7491> last topic -...
 294 <jean7491> next meetings ...
 295 <jean7491> from 7/4 to 30/4 i'm travelling abroad, and likely not able to care for the meetings and reports …
 296 <jean7491> someone has to take it over ! 
 297 <jean7491> The minimum is to add the log in the wiki, better is to write a reports or summaries of the meeting-logs 
 298 <jean7491> who will care for the IRC meetngs ?
 299 <jean7491> nobody ?
 300 <jean7491> i suggest next meeting on 7/04/2010 at 21 h., for who is willing to meet ! i will not be there ! 
 301 <JanC> I probably can't next week, the ones after that are no problem I think
 302 <jean7491> ok, then in the report, i don't mention another irc meeting !
 303 <jean7491> and you announce it when possible
 304 <JanC> we can see if anybody wants to take over...
 305 <JanC> I might be in Bretagne Wed-Sat next week (but not sure yet)
 306 jean7491> ok, end of the meeting, have a good night, i'll be back possibly on 28/4 ...