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   1 Topic #ubuntu-be is : http://ubuntu-be.org | get supp http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on 12/05/2010 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   2 <jean7491>  Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   3 <Andrej> I al
   4 <Andrej> am*
   5 * mongolito404 (~pbuyle@83.101.32.29) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   6 <mongolito404> Hoi
   7 <jean7491> hello Andrej , mongolito404
   8 <Andrej> Hello jean7491
   9 <jean7491> Andrej , you were in a'pen, right ?
  10 <jean7491> hello pvandewyngaerde
  11 <Andrej> I'm new, but I visited the fair
  12 <jean7491> Andrej : ok, welcome in our irc meeting, for agenda see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings 
  13 <Andrej> I received the agenda on my mail.
  14 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F6FD.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  15 <jean7491> Andrej : ok
  16 <jean7491> anyone else for the meeting ? JanC ? pvandewyngaerde ?
  17 <jean7491> Clamam ?
  18 <jean7491> rulus ?
  19 <Clamam> Yes, i am here
  20 <jean7491> hello Clamam
  21 <jean7491> JanC ?
  22 <jean7491>  JanC ? pvandewyngaerde ?
  23 <pvandewyngaerde> JanC is wsl op UDS in brussel,  ik kijk met één oog naar deze chat
  24 <jean7491> ok
  25 * rayvr (~ray@ip-62-235-165-25.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  26 <jean7491>  hello rayvr : are you coming for the meeting?
  27 <rayvr> yup
  28 <rayvr> present
  29 <jean7491> i propose we start with topic 1 – past and future events - about organization of events ...
  30 * rayvr est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  31 * jean7491bis (~jean74911@109.236.140.208) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  32 <jean7491>  first item : dipro antwerp 09/05 - report
  33 <jean7491> report and pictures are in the wiki ...
  34 <jean7491>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerpen_2010-05-09
  35 * rayvr (~x@ip-62-235-165-25.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  36 <rayvr> KMS sucks
  37 <jean7491> and you see pictures from a visitor : http://www.flickr.com/photos/didiermisson/sets/72157624034634548/ 
  38 <rayvr> i cant use my computer anymore!!!
  39 <jean7491>   rayvr : then you will read the report later
  40 <jean7491> summary: a successful event, but the 'launch/install party' concept doesn't fit into the dipro fair
  41 <jean7491> nevertheless, there was a continuous affluence of visitors from 10 to 17 h., no time for a pause! 
  42 <jean7491> a few lessons learned: …
  43 <jean7491> # importance of an improved decoration and new lay-out of the booth, for an easier contact with the public, : i think we had it!
  44 * mimor (~mimor@unaffiliated/mimor) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  45 <jean7491> # it is worthy to ask a booth along a wall, and if possible close to the entrance and/or the food and drink facilities : there was no problem to ask it to dipro,
  46 <jean7491> welcome mimor ! we are bust with a'pen report
  47 <mimor> k
  48 <jean7491> # it is easy to add posters and flyers at the entrance of the event to inform and attract the visitors to the booth : we forgot it, with no posters available, 
  49 <jean7491> i think we can do better at the following booths in september with these 3 lessons
  50 <jean7491> any comment about dipro fair in a'pen ?
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  52 <Andrej> Could we maybe ask people to bring their laptops to the fair so that we can do a direct installation on their system?
  53 <jean7491> yes, but the problem is how reach the interested people ?
  54 <Andrej> I study at the University of Antwerp
  55 <Andrej> I can always put some posters up on the wall
  56 <jean7491> unfortunatly we had no contact with you and nobody in a'pen proposed where to put posters ...
  57 <jean7491> we can think about it in the future ...
  58 <Andrej> I signed in when the fair was finished, I did not know that such teams existed
  59 <jean7491> ok, as you know bram is our main contact in a'pen ...
  60 <Andrej> I contacted him a few days ago
  61 <jean7491> and we should locally look for the best places for the posters ...
  62 <Andrej> Indeed
  63 <Andrej> What I noticed, there where no young people
  64 <jean7491> i said locally as it is not possible to centralize this kind of information
  65 <Andrej> sorry
  66 * mpt (~mpt@canonical/mpt) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  67 <jean7491> indeed, most of the visitors are not young, perhaps they are not yet interested in dipro computer fairs
  68 <jean7491> i mean younger people are possibly not yet interested ...
  69 <Andrej> what do you mean with '' i said locally as it is not possible to centralize this kind of information''
  70 <jean7491> i mean ubuntu-be members should know where to put posters and gather the information locally. ...
  71 <Andrej> ok
  72 <jean7491> as example, you could see with bram where to put the posters, and more generally, how to promote ubuntu and our events in a'pen ...
  73 <Andrej> exactly
  74 <jean7491> in a'pen there is for example a workshop discover ubuntu organized in a'pen by another association ...
  75 <jean7491> here http://www.uitinantwerpen.be/eCache/ABE/80/65/597.Y29udGV4dD0zMDE0OTIx.html
  76 <Andrej> thanks
  77 <jean7491> perhaps an opportunity to have contacts ? but it needs local initiative.
  78 <jean7491> other comment about dipro a'pen ?
  79 <jean7491> if no other comment (except we will do better next time (12/9) !), next item ...
  80 <Andrej> ok
  81 <jean7491> next item : release parties Lucid Lynx 10.04lts 
  82 * massimo21 (~massimo21@212.87.111.103) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  83 <jean7491> 9/5 release party in brussel – dewereldmorgen.be – any comment ? who was at this event ?
  84 <jean7491> nobody ? no report or comment ?
  85 <mongolito404> I wasn't
  86 <jean7491> ok, next 11/5 testrit with ubuntu in kortrijk – any comment ? pvandewyngaerde ?
  87 <pvandewyngaerde> i wasn't there
  88 <jean7491> nothing heard from koen ?
  89 <pvandewyngaerde> no
  90 <jean7491> ok, next ...
  91 <jean7491> 13/5 release party in ghent: mimor for comment ?
  92 <mimor> so
  93 <mimor> ok
  94 <mimor> well... Mandel would come over and give a talk about desktopcouch, but I didn't got a reply on what hour he will be coming
  95 <mimor> If there are people new to linux/ubuntu, I'll give an introductionary talk
  96 <mimor> I didn't get any reply from other people willing to give a talk
  97 <mimor> So it'll be more of an install party I guess
  98 <jean7491> what 's the timing of the rp ? starting at ?
  99 <pvandewyngaerde> do you have cd's ?
 100 <mimor> jean7491, starting at 13h
 101 <pvandewyngaerde> hmm, i need to instal it myself on my work laptopp
 102 <mimor> pvandewyngaerde, don't have cd's.
 103 <mimor> going to burn some myself tonight
 104 <mimor> I'm also out of laptop myself since a few weeks (got stolen)
 105 <mimor> that's about it
 106 <mimor> are there people planning to come by?
 107 <jean7491> did you asked help from kenneth ? he has at least 1 laptop in his event box
 108 <mimor> nope
 109 <jean7491> and you could install 10.04 on this laptop
 110 <jean7491> if you need a laptop, try to reach him
 111 <mimor> I have one, but no power to it :P
 112 <mimor> there is one adapter at the space, so I'll install it on the party (still has beta 1 on it)
 113 <mimor> *install it before the party
 114 <jean7491> ok
 115 <jean7491> other comment for the rp 13/5 in ghent ?
 116 <mimor> are there people wanting to come over?
 117 <mimor> feel free to give a talk about something :)
 118 <mimor> everything is welcome
 119 <Andrej> I want to but I can't
 120 <Andrej> I have exams
 121 <mimor> ok :)
 122 <jean7491> perhaps pieter about kubuntu ?  :)
 123 <jean7491> ok, next event ...
 124 <jean7491> 16/5 ubuntu-meeting (bitmappers) in genk – comment ? details were in the last mail from fabian to the mailing list
 125 <Clamam> i will be there to help at the install booth
 126 <jean7491> ok
 127 <Clamam> anybody coming?
 128 <massimo21> I am
 129 <jean7491> perhaps ray, but he left the meeting
 130 <jean7491> and JanC said he will
 131 <jean7491> anything else about genk ubuntu meeting ?
 132 <jean7491> next event 29/5 in ostend ...
 133 <jean7491> 29/5 (13.30-15.00 h.)  presentation/install party in ostend, with the support of the local organization Zandletters 
 134 <jean7491> see home page http://zandletters.be/
 135 <jean7491> Andrej : when i write about local initiative, i mean this kind of event, easy to organize when you look for contacts
 136 <jean7491> of course i'll need help for this install party: i hope to find volunteers ? anyone here who is volunteer to help ?
 137 <jean7491> other comment about 29/5 in ostend ?
 138 <jean7491> next item : other events 
 139 <jean7491> any comment about uds or lgm meetings ? i was hoping comments from JanC, but ...
 140 <jean7491> no information about these meetings ?
 141 <jean7491> then next events in september ...
 142 <jean7491> Planning september: 05/09 Dipro Ghent , 12/09 Dipro Antwerp , 18/09 Software Freedom Day (activity not yet determined), 26/09 Dipro Hasselt , 26/09 Nielse Computer dag
 143 <pvandewyngaerde> anything about lgm ?
 144 <pvandewyngaerde> oh, you already asked, nvm
 145 <jean7491> nothing from my side, and no reaction!
 146 <Clamam> for Hasselt i can do the orgnisation
 147 * massimo21 est parti (Quit: massimo21)
 148 <mongolito404> lgm ?
 149 <jean7491> thanks Clamam !
 150 <mongolito404> Libre Graphic Meeting ?
 151 <jean7491> yes
 152 <jean7491> Clamam : in meeting genk, perhaps you can establish contacts for dipro. have a look in a'pen report about the setup of the booth ... and more later !
 153 <Clamam> it was a good idea to change the booth in that manner, if we can we will do it to.
 154 <jean7491> we have to see it in august for a request to dipro : the hall is big enough in hasselt - remember it later 
 155 <Clamam> I will contact other volunteers, beginning at the ubuntumeeting on sunday and in june for the regular volunteers like Koen, Massimiliano, Hans, Lars,....
 156 <jean7491> thanks !
 157 <jean7491> nothing else about about events ?
 158 <Andrej> nop
 159 <mimor> nope
 160 <jean7491> now topic 2 - Promotion 
 161 <jean7491> tem #1- press release lucid lynx sent by JanC 
 162 <jean7491> anything in the press fr or nl about lucid lynx ?
 163 <mongolito404> Cedric Janssens sent a French one (dodn't know how/ij JanC and Cedric corrdinated themself)
 164 <mongolito404> I'm not aware of any Ubuntu related news in the FR press. But I don't read any papers
 165 <mongolito404> next ?
 166 <jean7491> as no other comment on the press release, next item #2 – public-relation team proposed in the previous meetings ?
 167 <jean7491> We still need volunteers to face this challenge.
 168 <jean7491> First step is to nominate new dutch and french press contact points
 169 <jean7491> feel free to be volunteer for this job !
 170 <jean7491> next item (i just added) a new banner to identify our booth in the events ...
 171 <jean7491> exchange of ideas is going on in the mailing list
 172 <jean7491> comment can be post in the mailing list...
 173 <jean7491> other comment ?
 174 <pvandewyngaerde> how do we agree on the final design ?
 175 <jean7491> a nice qestion !
 176 <jean7491> remember the new poster last year !
 177 <pvandewyngaerde> and maybe we should try to get approval from the international official  ubuntu desigers team to check we use the correct ubuntu logo style
 178 <jean7491> in the case we use a modified ubuntu logo
 179 <jean7491> perhaps 
 180 <mongolito404> If I remember correctly, modified logos are ok and there was no strict rules for LoCo.
 181 <mongolito404> As LoCo we are free to use Ubuntu's branding material if we made it clear that we are not Ubuntu[.com]
 182 <pvandewyngaerde> there are some guidelines in that pdf
 183 <jean7491> but i think that the decision will be taken by people who who are interested (and are really working in the booths)
 184 <mongolito404> As I said, my understanding is that this is the guidlines for Ubuntu[.com]'s communications, not LoCo's
 185 <mongolito404> Yes, people actually doing things in the wild are those who made the final decision
 186 <jean7491> back to the basic question of organizing the loco team, already discussed ...
 187 <mongolito404> yep
 188 <mongolito404> same old issue
 189 <jean7491> about the banner, we will continue through the mailing list ... and now going to the next topic ...
 190 <jean7491> topic 3 support points map status
 191 <mongolito404> But again, one can make a propositions call, let every one submit and organize a poll (on Launchpad or anywhere else) to select a submission.
 192 <mongolito404> map.ubuntu-be.org is offline since the web server outage on Lucid release (which was unrelated to the release and Cedric's departure)
 193 <mongolito404> I'll take action tomorrow to redirect map.ubuntu-be.org to a landing page on ubuntu-be.org with explanation on where we are and where we are going to regarding the map
 194 <mongolito404> Then I'll proceed to install the replacement module.
 195 <jean7491> do you foreseen a re-application of the existing support points ?
 196 <mongolito404> Once it's done, I'll work on the migration script. The plan is to migrate data for users registered on the old map.ubuntu-be.org and on ubuntu-be.org. And to provide a list of those who don't have an account on ubuntu-be.org so they can be emailed.
 197 <mongolito404> For user with accounts on both site, the plan is to migrate the data (ie. addresses, location, name and spoken languages. matching is done on email address)
 198 <jean7491>  account on ubuntu-be.org : do you mean launchpad ?
 199 <mongolito404> Yes, ount on Launchpad used, at least once, to login on ubuntu-be.org
 200 <jean7491> there is no check if they still wish to be support point ?
 201 <jean7491> i mean for those with launchpad account
 202 <mongolito404> Sorry, I didn't finish the sentence. The plan is to migrate their data  (ie. address, etc.) but not their "commitments"
 203 <mongolito404> So they will need to connect to the site and to commit to something to become active support points.
 204 <jean7491> ok
 205 <pvandewyngaerde> what about the general brown style of the site , are we switching to the purple/orange lucid style ?
 206 <mongolito404> We will also need to email them
 207 <mongolito404> pvandewyngaerde: Yes, the Ubuntu-drupal-theme has been updated to Lucid style
 208 <pvandewyngaerde> is that already online somewhere where i can see it ?
 209 <mongolito404> I should proceed to the upgrade tomorrow or later this WE once the map redirect and replacement module are working
 210 <mongolito404> http://staging.profarius.com/
 211 <mongolito404> http://www.ubuntu-qc.org/drupal/
 212 <mongolito404> pvandewyngaerde: ^
 213 <pvandewyngaerde> oh dear, we should send them our screenshot
 214 <pvandewyngaerde> nice style
 215 <mongolito404> An Ubuntu-za has also published his (or her, I don't know) own theme, see http://ubuntu-za.org/
 216 <mongolito404>  An Ubuntu-za member...
 217 <Andrej> nice
 218 <pvandewyngaerde> they have put a   za after the new ubuntu logo
 219 <mongolito404> Imho, putting the country code after the logo is a good idea only if its font match the original font. Othzerwise it looks clumsy
 220 <pvandewyngaerde> the za site does not render ok in IE
 221 <mongolito404> which one 6, 7, 8 (9 ?)
 222 <pvandewyngaerde> 7 here
 223 <pvandewyngaerde> i really need to install ubuntu on my worklaptop
 224 <jean7491> anything else about the support map ? if not, next topic
 225 <mongolito404> I think that's it for Support Points Map and website updates
 226 <jean7491> +/-  ...  topic 4 – things living in the mailing list 
 227 <jean7491> item #1 :   new ways/events to promote ubuntu: 
 228 <jean7491> remember : again, all suggestions are welcome,  everybody can look for contact and propose activities – and it works ! See ostend (29/5) and niel (26/9)
 229 <jean7491> if no comment, next item 
 230 <jean7491> item #2 : update of the wiki (an old item still valid) 
 231 <jean7491> the wiki page belgianteam/responsibility should be updated 
 232 <jean7491> at least with new fr and nl press contact points, dns and ubuntu-be.org 
 233 <jean7491> and after that, the website should be updated as the (press) nl and fr contacts (in home page) are not correct
 234 <jean7491> Mike VDB for nl contacts and cedric for fr contact
 235 <mongolito404> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Responsibility?action=diff&rev2=34&rev1=33
 236 <mongolito404> Whois is the current dutch press contact ?
 237 <jean7491> no idea
 238 <jean7491> as mark does not have time to do it
 239 <jean7491> afaik
 240 <jean7491> i hope JanC has an answer, but ... ?
 241 <jean7491> if no other comment, ...
 242 <jean7491> other questions not in the agenda ?
 243 <Andrej> no
 244 <mongolito404> no
 245 <jean7491> if no other question, i propose next irc meeting on 19/5 at 21 h.
 246 <mongolito404> ok for me, I'll try to be there for updates on the website
 247 <Andrej> i will be here
 248 <jean7491> thanks to all for your active participation to this meeting ! have a good night !
 249 <mongolito404> good night all
 250 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F6FD.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be