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   1 * Topic #ubuntu-be : http://ubuntu-be.org | get supp http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on 19/05/2010 at 21h (UTC+1), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   2 * Sujet de #ubuntu-be défini par jean7491!~jm@109.236.143.133 le Thu May 13 11:33:21 2010
   3 * #ubuntu-be :http://www.ubuntu-be.org/
   4 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   5 * gadeynebram (~gadeynebr@83.101.71.95) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   6 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   7 * pvandewyngaerde (~id984031@91.181.79.140) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   8 <Clamam> me
   9 <pvandewyngaerde> i am here for the meeting
  10 <mimor> I'll be... 50%
  11 <gadeynebram> me 2
  12 <jean7491> JanC ?
  13 <JanC> yepo
  14 <jean7491> hello JanC  Clamam  pvandewyngaerde  mimor --  anyone else for the meeting?
  15 <gadeynebram> yes I'd like to
  16 <jean7491> hello bram
  17 <gadeynebram> hello Jean
  18 <gadeynebram> is it in this channel?
  19 <jean7491> we are now in a weekly meeting ubuntu-be, aim is to coordinate our actvities, you are welcome !
  20 <jean7491> anyone else for the meeting ? 
  21 <massimo21> i'm here to but not specially for thr meeting
  22 <jean7491> ok
  23 <massimo21> :-)
  24 <jean7491> i propose we start wit topic 1 – past and future events 
  25 <jean7491> first item :  release parties Lucid Lynx 10.04lts 
  26 <gadeynebram> okey
  27 <mimor> ok
  28 <jean7491> 13/5 release party in ghent: mimor or anyone else for report ?
  29 <jean7491> or comment ?
  30 <mimor> it was better than I had it expected :)
  31 <mimor> mandel didn't turn up, so there was no talk
  32 <mimor> but as the party started early, people came in on e by one (or by pairs)
  33 <mimor> so we just talked to all of them
  34 <mimor> we installed ubuntu on 2 guy's laptops
  35 <mimor> fixed a problem on 1 of the visitors laptop
  36 <mimor> answered some questions/problems on OpenOffice
  37 <mimor> informed someone that wanted to do an Ubuntu minimal install
  38 <mimor> (he didn't bring his laptop) :(
  39 <mimor> and had a nice small demo about audio sampling/editing
  40 <mimor> Jack is an awesome program!
  41 <mimor> then some people played wormux :D
  42 <mimor> and it just went over to a regular Hackerspace evening
  43 <mimor> so it's too bad there is were no talks, but learned and saw cool things
  44 <mimor> so did other people
  45 <gadeynebram> what is the averige user-experience on such a meeting?
  46 <mimor> from zero experience to kick-ass über skills
  47 <mimor> interesting combination
  48 <gadeynebram> oh yes
  49 <jean7491> how many people ?
  50 <mimor> didn't count
  51 <mimor> but guess something like 20
  52 <jean7491> good one !
  53 <mimor> I arrived at 13h (and something) and left at 3am in the morning ><
  54 <jean7491> it was your 2d organized release party !
  55 <mimor> I wouldn't say organized... but it turned out good :D
  56 <jean7491> ok, any lessons learned for the next one ?
  57 <jean7491> for exampe location ?
  58 <jean7491> promotion ?
  59 <jean7491> how to contact people ?
  60 <gadeynebram> wouldn't it be a good idea to create eventpages on facebook to invite new people? Or do they already exist?
  61 <mimor> no
  62 <mimor> facebook should not be a way to contact people
  63 <mimor> or let me put it this way
  64 <mimor> I won't make one (out of principle), but if someone wants to make one... they can :D
  65 <gadeynebram> I know but for now it's one way to contact more people I guess.
  66 <mimor> promotion: blogpost, post it on http://www.uitingent.be/, mailinglist
  67 <gadeynebram> Don't know the habits of these events ;)
  68 <mimor> and mouth to mouth things
  69 <mimor> I just think that people rely too much on facebook... and make events to be something exclusive to non-facebook users
  70 <JanC> I won't create facebook pages myself, but I'd say everybody who's on Facebook (or Netlog or whatever) is very welcome to promote Ubuntu events
  71 <mimor> I follow ubuntu on facebook :)
  72 <mimor> and I post links to my blogpost on my facebook
  73 <mimor> as do I put it on twitter
  74 <Clamam> i 2 follow ubuntu on Facebook and i have send a message on that group about the ubuntu-meeting 16-05 @ Genk.
  75 <mimor> I went to Genk, but saw only the last 2 sessions.
  76 <jean7491> other comment about the rp in ghent ?
  77 <mimor> location was awesome
  78 <JanC> I don't have a facebook account because I distrust the company (they know nothing about security) & one of their investors (who is a fascist)
  79 <JanC> but if other people want to, they are free to do  :-)
  80 <gadeynebram> Maybe I will create some ;) but I have never attended one. So I can't promote it a lot. I Intend to go to one though
  81 <JanC> where are you located gadeynebram ?
  82 * t00r est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  83 * t00r_ (~t00r@unaffiliated/t00r) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  84 <gadeynebram> During the week in Ghent, In the weekends in Blankenberge. But I'm a student so Ostend isn't a possibility ;)
  85 <jean7491> let's go to the next event ...
  86 <jean7491> 16/5 ubuntu-meeting (bitmappers) in genk 
  87 <jean7491> comment /report ?
  88 <gadeynebram> brb
  89 * gadeynebram est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
  90 <massimo21> I was there
  91 * mongolito404 est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
  92 <mimor> the 2 talks I saw (Virtualbox & gaming on Linux) were aimed for starters
  93 * gadeynebram (~gadeynebr@83.101.71.95) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  94 <massimo21> it started at 10am
  95 <mimor> but I was longer in the car going there than I was in there :s
  96 <Clamam> it was a great event with a lot of interesting people.
  97 <gadeynebram> looked professional!
  98 <mimor> location was enormously perfect
  99 <mimor> also sweet with sponsors etc.
 100 <Clamam> i was there with massimo21 @ the install booth
 101 <mimor> shows people there is commerce with linux :)
 102 <JanC> not as many visitors as in Herk-de-Stad, but a big location that, if I understand correctly, we might be able to use again in the future
 103 <JanC> the talk I saw about OOo wasn't too good  :-/
 104 <mimor> also cool that the 'schepen' was there
 105 <JanC> I had soem interesting talks with people though
 106 <gadeynebram> does anyone know if there will be some presentations or other documentations available?
 107 <JanC> I guess Clamam / massimo21 might know that ?
 108 <massimo21> i don't know about organisation whit presentators
 109 <massimo21> i think they work for Xtend
 110 <JanC> next time I might give a more advanced talk, but this time I didn't really want to volunteer anything as I was at UDS the week before  ;)
 111 <massimo21> ther also was a fon rappresentator
 112 <JanC> massimo21: who worked for Xtend ?
 113 <massimo21> the guy oresented games on linux
 114 <JanC> it might be useful to ask presenters for slides
 115 <JanC> and publish them somewhere on the site
 116 <Clamam> there are some presenations on the web http://www.dominiquevdb.be/, he gave the presentation about ubuntu server
 117 <massimo21> i don't have the contacts
 118 <gadeynebram> tnx a lot!
 119 <JanC> I suppose Fabian has
 120 <massimo21> probably
 121 <massimo21> The bitmappers did a great job with this party
 122 <massimo21> and with the help of sponsors and stad Genk
 123 <Clamam> they have burned the cd with the cd-burners of De Stad Genk and the remaining cd's fabian gave to me for future fairs.
 124 <massimo21> It was big organaised, there was a flyer distibution in Genk, Hasselt, stores etc...
 125 <massimo21> even on the local radio
 126 <jean7491> indeed the bitmappers is a club with experience and ressources
 127 <massimo21> it coud not be possible whitout a club such as bitmappers
 128 <JanC> they do some good work indeed
 129 <JanC> but maybe we should move on to the next item (I don't want the irc meeting to take 3h ;) )
 130 <massimo21> ok
 131 <Clamam> ok
 132 <massimo21> there was 160 people by the way whitout volounteers
 133 <jean7491> ok, next item : other events like UDS – report  JanC ? 
 134 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 135 <JanC> UDS was great: fun, interesting, lots of work being done, tiresome -- but great
 136 <JanC> one of the results for locoteams is that we might get a good quality Ubuntu banner
 137 * massimo21 (~massimo21@212.87.115.12) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 138 <JanC> soem of the sessions might have been interesting for peopel who help organise events too
 139 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 140 <JanC> not sure what you all want to know?  ☺
 141 <JanC> about UDS
 142 <jean7491> i just read a short report on planet.ubuntu-fr.org, what do you mean about organizing events ?
 143 <JanC> there were some sessions about organising events & such, and about how Canonical could help with that
 144 <JanC> with Jane (new Canonical CEO) attending
 145 <JanC> thats' where the banner was proposed
 146 <JanC> as it's much more useful than e.g. the English language flyers in the conference pack
 147 <JanC> and she agreed with that
 148 <jean7491> ok, if you have more "about organising events & such, and about how Canonical could help with that", please send me a mail
 149 <jean7491> about the banner, we come back in a next topic
 150 <JanC> basically it might be useful for more people to attend the sessions, e.g. from remote (using the audio streams, IRC & gobby)
 151 <jean7491> if you have reference of ressources, please mail it in the mailing list
 152 <JanC> oh, and the new font should be released in beta "somewhere soon"
 153 <JanC> (limited beta)
 154 <jean7491> next item : about lgm ?
 155 <jean7491> i don't know when ? and if we are concerned ?
 156 <JanC> I will be at LGM and present opensource/linux/ubuntu to graphics students, and there will be Ubuntu PCs or multiseat there
 157 <JanC> if anybody wants to show up, they are also welcome of course
 158 <jean7491> please inform the mailing list about that !
 159 <JanC> right
 160 <jean7491> next item : planning september ...
 161 <jean7491> what we know : 05/09 Dipro Ghent , 12/09 Dipro Antwerp , 18/09 Software Freedom Day, 26/09 Dipro Hasselt , 26/09 Nielse Computer dag
 162 <jean7491> do you know other possible events ?
 163 <jean7491> are there proposals for the software freedom day (18/9) ?
 164 <gadeynebram> I have to leave now. Succes with the meeting
 165 * gadeynebram (~gadeynebr@83.101.71.95) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 166 <jean7491> ok, bye bram
 167 <jean7491> no comment : ok, we see it later
 168 <jean7491> about release parties 10
 169 <jean7491> about release parties 10.04 i forgot 1 event
 170 <jean7491> 29/5 (13.30-15.00 h.)  presentation/install party in ostend, with the support of the local organization Zandletters see home page http://zandletters.be/
 171 <jean7491> and if interested, we need help and visitors !
 172 <JanC> I will be at LGM then...
 173 <jean7491> ok
 174 <jean7491> we continue with topic 2 - Promotion 
 175 <JanC> still useful for others to go there of course
 176 <jean7491> of course
 177 <jean7491> item #1-  public-relation team proposed in previous meetings 
 178 <jean7491> first step is to nominate new dutch and french press contact points : good news with application nicolas as fr press contact 
 179 <jean7491> i propose we accept nicolas as fr press contact
 180 <jean7491> any reaction ?
 181 <jean7491> ?
 182 <jean7491> are there other candidates as fr or nl press contact ?
 183 <jean7491> JanC  Clamam  pvandewyngaerde  mimor ?
 184 <mimor> nope
 185 <JanC> jean7491: I already agreed with Nicolas as French press contact
 186 <Clamam> no
 187 <JanC> I'm okay with being an email press contact, but not really radio or TV  ;)
 188 <jean7491> for nicolas, can you confirm the nomination in the mailing list and wiki ?
 189 <JanC> Jan Bongaerts wants to be an .nl press contact maybe, but I don't know him very well
 190 <JanC> and he's not always available anyway
 191 <jean7491> for the nl press contact, i suggest we look further for a nl press contact
 192 <jean7491> but first is to confirm nicolas nomination
 193 <jean7491> someone has to confirm nicolas nomination : JanC , can you do it ?
 194 <JanC> are we sure Cédric doesn't want to help with that anymore?
 195 <jean7491> you read his mail
 196 <JanC> the mail where he was upset about what I think was a misunderstanding?
 197 <jean7491> i don't think it is about misunderstanding
 198 <jean7491> i think he is no more interested in active rol in ubuntu-be
 199 <jean7491> and btw better a team of several press contacts who can coordinate actions
 200 <JanC> yeah, that's why he might still want to help
 201 <JanC> I'd prefer if things happen more on the ML
 202 <jean7491> what do you mean ?
 203 <JanC> well, things like preparing press releases, events, etc.
 204 <JanC> it's also something we've been discussing at UDS
 205 <JanC> not only for locoteams
 206 <jean7491> i think that's what we did, and why i asked info about lgm and nicolas nomination in the mailing list
 207 <jean7491> and why i'm writing irc reports
 208 <JanC> yes, of course
 209 <JanC> but some discussions are done off-list or in private messages when there is no real need
 210 <JanC> just that we need to think about that more
 211 <jean7491> we can exchange ideas through the ml, but at one moment we need a decision (like for nicolas) and the ml takes no decision
 212 <JanC> that's what this meeting is for, partially, and we decided
 213 <JanC> anything else on the agenda?
 214 <jean7491> i come back : no decision was taken about nicolas as only you wrote "I already agreed with Nicolas as French press contact"
 215 <jean7491> if the participants to the meeting do not agree formally, there is no decision, and i can not write it in the report
 216 <Clamam> i agree for nicolas as French press contact.
 217 <jean7491> +1
 218 <jean7491> i understand now 3 yes, are there "no" from anyone ?
 219 * Stijndg est parti (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
 220 <jean7491>   pvandewyngaerde  mimor ?
 221 <jean7491>  as pvandewyngaerde and mimor do not react, i suppose they agree ?
 222 <jean7491> next item item #2 – Update material - banner for ubuntu-be (to use in events to identify our booth)
 223 <jean7491> i suggested we use “belgian team” in place of  the official “belgian loco team” – any comment or opposition ?
 224 <JanC> jean7491: if nobody disagrees, that's a "decision by absence of protest" IMO  ;)
 225 <jean7491> about uds " the banner was proposed" : was can we expect ? ideas ? files ? material ?
 226 <jean7491> ok for decision
 227 * Enissay (~Enissay@unaffiliated/enissay) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 228 <JanC> jean7491: I would have to check about the name we use, personally I'd prefer we use "ubuntu-be.org" as the name for our team instead
 229 <JanC> that way, people also immediately know our website address  ;)
 230 <JanC> jean7491: the banner was proposed and Canonical CEO agreed it was a good idea, so I'm 99% sure we'll get it, but not sure when
 231 <jean7491> ok for ubuntu-be.org, no problem
 232 <jean7491> as banner, is it better to use the logo on white background od orange ?
 233 <JanC> well, it's a proposal, I'm happy to hear others give their opinion on it
 234 <JanC> not sure about the banner
 235 <jean7491> ok, i'll try projects of new design
 236 <JanC> we might want to get together for a real-life meeting with some people...
 237 <JanC> and do that occasionally (like, at least every 6 months or so)
 238 <jean7491> ok, with a good preparation and agenda
 239 <jean7491> good idea !
 240 <jean7491> do you have yet proposition ? 
 241 <JanC> I have no propositions for todays meeting
 242 <JanC> it's already way too late again ;)
 243 <jean7491> indeed, we already cover the rest of the agenda, and no new info from mongolito404
 244 <jean7491> just update of the wiki belgianteam/responsibility
 245 <jean7491> and next meeting proposed on 26/5 at 21 h.
 246 <jean7491> do you have other item ?
 247 <jean7491> nothing else for today ? end of meeting ?
 248 <JanC> I probably won't be around on 26/5 (depends if I have internet at that time)
 249 <Clamam> ok, bye bye and good night :P
 250 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 251 <jean7491> ok JanC, bye