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   1 IRC meeting 23/09/2010 - log
   2 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   3 <massimo21> me
   4 * siegie (~siegie@sin.khk.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
   5 <ILUsion> here for the meeting
   6 <gadeynebram> me to
   7 <Clamam> me to but with just 1 eye
   8 <siegie> the same here, 1 eye :)
   9 <gadeynebram> awtch :o what happened with everyone's eyes :o
  10 <jean7491> hello massimo21 , Clamam , gadeynebram , siegie , ILUsion 
  11 <ILUsion> hello jean7491
  12 <Clamam> Jean7491 : i am not going to participate to the entire meeting, but massimo21 knows de details about the upcoming fair.
  13 <jean7491> ok, anything about facebook ?
  14 <jean7491> JanC ?
  15 <Clamam> no, no reaction of the owner of the page
  16 <jean7491> ok
  17 * Clamam est parti (Quit: Leaving.)
  18 <jean7491> warddr told me he'll join later when at home, for topic t-shirts, ...
  19 <jean7491> we'll start at 21.15 hr. JanC ? yanu ?
  20 <JanC> I'm around
  21 <jean7491> ok
  22 <jean7491> topic #1. past and future events -  September 2010 - update
  23 <jean7491> first item, Software Freedom Day (18/9) - report
  24 <jean7491> organized in cooperation with zandletters.be: thanks help JanC, frank ensamuel, everything went smoothly, about 50 interested people, a lot of questions, mainly about FOSS and Ubuntu
  25 <jean7491> see report and pictures in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/SoftwareFreedomDay2010   
  26 <jean7491> i contnue contacts with zandletters, planning other activities in the future, like digital week 2011
  27 <jean7491> everyone can start thinking about contacts and proposals for the digital week 26/02-05/03/2011
  28 <jean7491>  second item,  Dipro Charleroi (19/09) afaik, everything went good, with help of 2 local lug's
  29 <gadeynebram> I have a question about those dipro's
  30 <gadeynebram> I don't meen to offent someone with this
  31 <gadeynebram> but I've noticed it's a relatively older public (from the photo's from SoftwareFreedomDay). Is this always like this?
  32 <siegie> gadeynebram: softwarefreedomday is something else then dipro fairs
  33 <jean7491> sfd2010 is not a dipro activity, public was more in relation with bib.
  34 <jean7491> and cooperation with another organization (no fee for the place)
  35 <siegie> At fairs you have all kind of people (all ages).
  36 <gadeynebram> okey ;)
  37 <gadeynebram> apart from the ubuntu-mailing list I've never heard about them. Even though there has been one at Ghent
  38 <jean7491> but idd, for the activity i asked contacts in ostend for help towards jong people, but no help received
  39 <gadeynebram> Well we will attract some young people on our lanparty ;-)
  40 <jean7491> for jong public, problem is to find how to reach ? i've no tip on this issue
  41 <siegie> gadeynebram: lanparty is more games related i think?
  42 <jean7491> btw, perhaps you can think about future in your location ! ...
  43 <gadeynebram> btw, perhaps you can think about future in your location ! ...?
  44 <gadeynebram> lanparty is indeed more games related but it's a way of getting ubuntu on some people's desktop or laptop and getting them to know ubuntu like that
  45 <jean7491> and if you have expertise about gaming, you could perhpas help me for start digital week 2011, more in apart email
  46 <gadeynebram> That's allright for me ;)
  47 <jean7491> think about future in your location : i mean contact about something in for example digital week 2011 or something else, sfd2011? ...
  48 <jean7491> we continue with niel ...
  49 <jean7491> item #3  Nielse computer dag (26/9) in cooperation with local computerclub monitor …
  50 <jean7491> team with nero as coordinator and 3 volunteers is ready  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Niel_2010-09-26
  51 <jean7491> ILUsion did you had contact with nero ?
  52 <ILUsion> had no contact with nero
  53 <ILUsion> was a bit busy last few weeks
  54 <jean7491> i remember him yesterday to coordinate with you and other participants
  55 <jean7491> i think i sent you his address
  56 <jean7491> mail him with questions about details !
  57 <ILUsion> will do
  58 <JanC> nero got CDs from me
  59 <jean7491> ok
  60 <jean7491>  next item #4  Dipro Hasselt (26/09)
  61 <jean7491> team  is ready - Clamam or massimo21 ?
  62 <massimo21> everything is ready
  63 <jean7491> thanks for the answer !
  64 <jean7491> item #5 Dipro Kortrijk (10/10)
  65 <massimo21> we had a meeting yesterday but nobody showed up
  66 <jean7491> don't worry, if everything is ready !
  67 <massimo21> :-)
  68 <jean7491> Dipro Kortrijk (10/10) - to compose the team, volunteers, please add your namesin the wikito compose the team, volunteers, please add your namesin the wiki
  69 <jean7491> hoping a few people from kortrijk area ! yanu ?
  70 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2010-10-10
  71 <jean7491>  item #6 Dipro Brugge (17/10)
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  73 <jean7491> ?
  74 <jean7491> idem - to compose the team, volunteers, please add your names in the wiki
  75 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-10-17
  76 <jean7491> other comment for events?
  77 * jean7491bis (~jean74911@109.236.140.10) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  78 <jean7491> if no comment, next topic # 2. Promotion
  79 <jean7491> first item Adding  links to the website 
  80 <siegie> I still have some posters and flyers here. Isn't it a idea to make a wiki page where there's available material?
  81 <jean7491> yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial
  82 <siegie> okey thanks i'll add mine
  83 <jean7491> the list exists, just see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam about material, for who needs material
  84 <jean7491> additionally there is a lot of material in events-box a'pen, ghent, hasselt and mechelen, but i've no detail
  85 <jean7491> back to first item adding  links to the website ...
  86 <jean7491>  we already discussed the topic, see draft in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Commercial_links-draft …
  87 <jean7491>   before to launch the project and contacting companies, we are still waiting for  a central point of contact for this matter (contact@ubuntu-be.org), ...
  88 <jean7491> JanC : is it ok ?
  89 <JanC> it should be okay in a couple of days, maybe works already now, depending on what DNS server you use etc.
  90 <jean7491> will you received mail to contact@ubuntu-be.org ? i sent test-mails
  91 <JanC> currently mail to that address only goes to my mailbox, so feel free to test
  92 <jean7491> but you did noy yet received ?
  93 <jean7491> not yet received my tests
  94 <JanC> it will probably take 15 minutes or so (because of greylisting on my server)
  95 <jean7491> my last test was at 17,18 hr
  96 <jean7491> once address ok (and tested), we can start with announcement in the mailing list and looking for interested companies/organizations through personal contacts ...
  97 <jean7491> hopefully in a few days !
  98 <jean7491> no other comment ?
  99 <jean7491> for t-shirts, we wait for warddr ...
 100 <JanC> I can't find contact in the mailserver logs, so probably didn't work  ;)
 101 <jean7491> ok
 102 <jean7491> item 3 ubuntu and facebook ?
 103 <JanC> you use the site often, so the old IP is probably still cached somewhere
 104 <jean7491> what do you mean ?
 105 <jean7491> item 3 ubuntu and facebook ?  we need a team of interested people to ensure a “animated” page about our activities. volunteers can apply to the facebook team: are there here volunteers ?
 106 <massimo21> clamam is working on it
 107 <massimo21> he is negotiating
 108 <jean7491> ok
 109 * gadeynebram est parti (*.net *.split)
 110 <massimo21> to publicate on it is not difficult
 111 <massimo21> one person can report wat happens here on it for example
 112 * gadeynebram (~bram@83.101.71.95) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 113 <jean7491> i suppose, but to avoid possible problem, we should have contact and agreement with the owner of the page
 114 <massimo21> idd
 115 <massimo21> that is wath clamam is working on
 116 <jean7491> ok, if proplr are interested in this issue, they can apply to our facebook team : task of the team is ubuntu-be internal coordination and animation of the page, when ok with owner ... volunteers ?
 117 <jean7491> if people are interested ...
 118 <gadeynebram> Are there already members in that team?
 119 <jean7491> Clamam is the first
 120 <gadeynebram> I'll join
 121 <jean7491> but due to priority to dipro hasselt, he probably has limited time for faceboo team... welcome in the facebook team !
 122 <gadeynebram> Yes well I'll leave communication with the current owner over to Clamam
 123 <jean7491> idd, ... coordination is priority to be credible
 124 <massimo21> actually he is waiting answer of the owner
 125 <jean7491> has someone contact with steven van landeghem ? (except Clamam)
 126 <gadeynebram> oke
 127 <jean7491> other comment about facebook ?
 128 <gadeynebram> and what about creating a new facebook page? like ubuntu-be.org instead of ubuntu-be
 129 <gadeynebram> Don't know if that is possible ;)
 130 <gadeynebram> facebook is down at the moment
 131 <massimo21> it coud be confusing
 132 <gadeynebram> that's true
 133 <gadeynebram> but I think that the other page is not really active
 134 <gadeynebram> We'll await communication ;)
 135 <jean7491> ok
 136 <jean7491> next item 4. ubuntu and education
 137 <gadeynebram> interesting topic!
 138 <jean7491> as I already wrote : what can we propose to schools ? example “ICTpraktijkdag” in november: we need an “education-team”  with teachers to help the promotion (content and how to?) ...
 139 <massimo21> i have contacted jos nys
 140 <massimo21> teacher
 141 <massimo21> I invited him to be present
 142 <massimo21> i think he does not have time today
 143 <gadeynebram> to irc?
 144 <massimo21> yes irc
 145 <jean7491> only 1 reaction in the m-l ..., but still none to take intiative about a discussion group on the issue ...
 146 <ILUsion> I'm willing to help with the ubuntu-be education-team (not a teacher, but as a student)
 147 <gadeynebram> I'd like to help to... but it's not really possible for me to go to schools etc during the week
 148 <jean7491> irc is not the best place to exchange about this issue, better mail exchanges in a group and later sending ideas in the m-l,   as example
 149 <massimo21> coukd it be possible to do evening lessons?
 150 <jean7491> if there is proposal/initiative and demand, why not ?
 151 <gadeynebram> Yes
 152 <ILUsion> evening classes are a great idea; the only "downside" is that we do not reach the teenage focus group
 153 <jean7491> idd
 154 <gadeynebram> unless the evening lessons take place on friday or saturday
 155 <massimo21> i think is difficult to let someone teach ubuntu during day class
 156 <gadeynebram> To be honest I don't think teanagers will attent to any lessons
 157 <ILUsion> I just think not a lot of teenagers are enthusiastic to attend any extra-curricular lessons: they spend 32 hours in school and that is enough for most of them
 158 <gadeynebram> It has to be a verry short but interesting meet and great with ubuntu and it's wisles and bells
 159 <massimo21> ok
 160 <massimo21> now i understand
 161 <massimo21> that is great
 162 <ILUsion> indeed: we need to captivate their attention, leave them wanting for more and they will practically do the rest :)
 163 <gadeynebram> The live CD or USB stick will do the rest ;)
 164 <gadeynebram> I have installed ubuntu on several young people's ex-XP laptops and now they only change back to play some windows-only games
 165 <gadeynebram> so it has pottential ;)
 166 <jean7491> if you find people demanding to, you could organize local install party ...
 167 <jean7491> or other discover activity
 168 <jean7491> other suggestion about the issue education ?
 169 <gadeynebram> yes
 170 <gadeynebram> I don't know if it exists
 171 <ILUsion> perhaps we could work on content for some kind of introduction session? What features to explore, ...
 172 <gadeynebram> but wouldn't it be good if powerpoint presentations, and tutorials, and FAQ, ... are available on the ubuntu-be website?
 173 <JanC> s/powerpoint/impress or pdf/  ;)
 174 <jean7491> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs par 5, if not enough, we (everybody) can add !
 175 <jean7491> but of course the general presentation is more dipro oriented, and need to be adapted to the audience
 176 <ILUsion> Perhaps we could make those documents more readily available from the site? Because I think the wiki is a little too cluttered to stumble upon
 177 <jean7491> for other events
 178 <gadeynebram> I agree with ILUsion
 179 <JanC> the problem is that it's much easier for everybody to help & add documents on the wiki...
 180 <jean7491> we can ask, for example a link in the website to the wiki page
 181 <gadeynebram> the ubuntu-be.org site is that a joomla/drupal/ ... site?
 182 <JanC> it's drupal
 183 <jean7491> link for people who wish to see what available, ...
 184 <jean7491> to contribute, wiki is easier to use (at least for me)
 185 <ILUsion> @JanC: that's true, but we could also put that par 5 on a separate wiki page and include that page in the main site
 186 <JanC> we could link directly to a page only about such material, yes
 187 <gadeynebram> Drupal is also possible if people get editing priviledges
 188 <JanC> gadeynebram: not only editing privileges, but also upload privileges
 189 <jean7491> this is a good suggestion for my topic # 3. Update Wiki - are there suggestions ?
 190 <JanC> anyway, it can be discussed to add this to drupal...
 191 <gadeynebram> maybe we should discus this when new content is available ;)
 192 <jean7491>  new content ? which one ?
 193 <ILUsion> When 10.10 comes along?
 194 <gadeynebram> and for now maybe a link to the wiki from the drupal site?
 195 <gadeynebram> new content: like extra presentations on other topics then only installing ubuntu...
 196 <JanC> that's in 2,5 weeks  ☺
 197 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 198 <ILUsion> maybe we also need a big link to the wiki from the drupal site (in the left hand side menu)
 199 <JanC> ILUsion: good point
 200 <gadeynebram> Has someone amongst you got any experience with ubuntu in a network environment? Because that could also be interesting for schools or company's
 201 <JanC> maybe we need to do a special meeting for updating the site & wiki?
 202 <ILUsion> JanC: that might be for the best
 203 <jean7491> i noted to do : a wiki page with promotion material with reference in the wiki home page of the be team - can be for another meeting: suggestion when ?
 204 <ILUsion> (not next Thursday for me)
 205 <jean7491> for me, not tuesday, nor w-e
 206 <jean7491> other suggestion ?
 207 * bbartek est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
 208 <gadeynebram> just on the next meeting, and suggestions through the mailing list?
 209 <JanC> first of all we need to know what is bad or can be better with the site/wiki, then decide what we will change?
 210 <jean7491> ok, please think about a review of the wiki (structure) and post your ideas in the mailing list
 211 <jean7491> ILUsion you can post your ideas, if you are not at the next meeting thursday
 212 <jean7491> we continue with topic# 4. Support points map status 
 213 <jean7491> map has been replaced by a list of support points which renewed their commitments 
 214 <ILUsion> okay
 215 <jean7491>  not everyone did it, it is easy to do through login on the website, >create content >supporter profile 
 216 <jean7491> mongolito404 is working further on this issue, and btw there was a wrong link in a message he sent to support points for renewal of commitment 
 217 <jean7491> he is still working on the issue
 218 <jean7491> hpefully the problem will be solved as soon as possible !
 219 <jean7491> comment ?
 220 <jean7491> next topic # 5. Things living in the mailing list and others questions ?
 221 <jean7491> For information, newcomer in the belgian local community team last week: sbpir92i (16/09)
 222 <jean7491> no detail about him
 223 * Clamam (~claudio@d54C1F823.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 224 <jean7491> we still wait warddr for the t-shirts !
 225 <jean7491> other questions ?
 226 <jean7491> my other question
 227 <jean7491>  Belgian team monthly report : we still need someone taking the lead for monthly reporting 
 228 <jean7491> aim is to inform ubuntu community about our activity -  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting
 229 <jean7491> as we started again activities in september, we have things for a report. any volunteer ?
 230 * JanC has just ordered the maverick CDs for ubuntu-be
 231 <JanC> jean7491: I'll look into making a team report
 232 <jean7491> ok
 233 <jean7491> i come back to the item t-shirts
 234 <jean7491> for design proposals,see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts 
 235 <jean7491> I added a new design based on the one presented in ubuntu-nl forum, but respecting the guidelines
 236 <massimo21> i like it
 237 <jean7491> please have a look at the proposed designs
 238 <gadeynebram> is it nr 8?
 239 <jean7491> and give 3 best designs for a preselection
 240 <gadeynebram> v3-be,v6-be,v7-be
 241 <massimo21> v4, v7withe, v8
 242 * Guest78633 est parti (Quit: Ex-Chat)
 243 <jean7491> for me v2-be, v6-be and v7_white-be
 244 <ILUsion> v4-be, v7-be, v2-be
 245 <JanC> I prefer v4-be, v5-be (but maybe without the "-" before "be") and maybe v1-be or v8
 246 <gadeynebram> I have to go. Goodbye!
 247 <JanC> printing on the sleeve might be expensive
 248 <jean7491> JanC, only 3 !
 249 * gadeynebram (~bram@83.101.71.95) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 250 <JanC> v4-be, v5-be (but maybe without the "-" before "be") and v1-be then  ;)
 251 <jean7491> anyone to vote ?
 252 <JanC> I think it's important that we decide wether sleeve prints are allowed inside our budget first?
 253 <JanC> some people here might want to change their choice...
 254 <jean7491> no idea about price, !
 255 <JanC> they need to print the thing on the sleeves in an extra print run, so I'm pretty sure they ask extra money for it, but wardr should be able to find that out
 256 <jean7491> for now, 3x for v4be, 2x v2, v6be, v7be-black and 2 v7bewhite 
 257 <massimo21> i voted v8
 258 <jean7491> yes v4, v7white and v8
 259 <massimo21> my vote was v4, v7withe, v8
 260 <massimo21> so it is 1up for v8
 261 <jean7491> as ward does not appear, the issue can not be solved, suggestions ?
 262 <massimo21> we waut one more week?
 263 <massimo21> wait
 264 <jean7491> other comment ?
 265 <massimo21> vote also on mailing list?
 266 <ILUsion> does he respond to mail?
 267 <jean7491> at 20.10 he said ik ben nog niet thuis, ik doe mijn best om er te zijn.
 268 <jean7491> imho, we can postpone decision about pre-selection and ask vote (pre-selection in the m-l
 269 <jean7491> if no reaction we wait till next week (for warddr)
 270 <massimo21> ml is ok for me
 271 <jean7491> last topic, next irc meeting ? proposed on thursday 30/09 at 21 h. ?
 272 * jean7491bis est parti (Quit: Quitte)
 273 <massimo21> ok for me
 274 <ILUsion> I won't be there
 275 <jean7491> is wednesday a better day for you ?
 276 <ILUsion> yes
 277 <ILUsion> but I don't know about the others?
 278 <jean7491> other opinions 29 or 30/09 ?
 279 <massimo21> it is the same for me
 280 <jean7491> JanC ?
 281 <massimo21> i'm going now
 282 <massimo21> bye
 283 * massimo21 (~massimo21@212.87.110.33) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 284 <jean7491> ok you see the next meeting in the report
 285 <jean7491> JanC ? 29 or 30/09 ?
 286 <JanC> it's the same for me
 287 <jean7491> then next meeting 29/09 wednesday, hpi,g warddr will be there !
 288 <jean7491> hoping warddr ...