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   1 IRC meting 07/10/2010
   2 <jean7491> Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   3 <massimo21> me
   4 <JanC> o/
   5 <clamam> me
   6 <jean7491> hello JanC massimo21 Clamam
   7 <ILUsion> here for meeting
   8 <jean7491> hallo ILUsion
   9 <ILUsion> hi all
  10 <ILUsion> are we going to start with the meeting?
  11 <jean7491> yes, wait, yanu ? gadeynebram ?
  12 <jean7491> anyone else for the meeting ?
  13 <jean7491> no reaction, wz start topic #1.  future events -  September 2010 - update
  14 <jean7491>  item #1  Dipro Kortrijk (10/10)
  15 <jean7491> for now, 4 volunteers from ostend en brugge, and nobody from kortrijk area !
  16 <yanu> ok
  17 <jean7491> organization, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2010-10-10
  18 <jean7491> hello yanu
  19 <jean7491> JanC : question ?
  20 * stefan73 (~stefan73@d54C0866C.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  21 <jean7491> JanC about timing, i'll be to your home at 07.40 h. (not 08.40), then by alain and further to kortrijk, arrival +/- 09.00 h.
  22 <jean7491> JanC : ok?
  23 <JanC> moment phone
  24 <JanC> jean7491: okay
  25 <JanC> sorry, my father was on the phone  ☺
  26 <jean7491> next ...
  27 <JanC> jean7491: about Kortrijk
  28 <jean7491> JanC : question ?
  29 <JanC> if we go for a "release drink" after the fair, if somebody organises this (maybe nearby the expo?), we could announce it so that also other people can come and say hello?
  30 <JanC> should be somebody from Kortrijk though
  31 <JanC> just an idea
  32 <JanC> that I was thinking about an hour ago
  33 <jean7491> idd, not much local volunteers
  34 <JanC> so if nobody from that region is here, we can move to the next item
  35 <jean7491>  item #2 Dipro Brugge (17/10)
  36 <jean7491> volunteers are still welcome for a few hours !
  37 <jean7491> please add your names in the wiki
  38 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2010-10-17
  39 <jean7491> question ?
  40 <jean7491> detailled organization, later
  41 <JanC> nope
  42 <jean7491> yanu ?
  43 <yanu> i'm here
  44 <yanu> but not reading ;)
  45 <jean7491> question about brugge ? 
  46 <yanu> i 'll be there
  47 <jean7491> ok
  48 <jean7491> next item #3 Any idea about release parties for 10.10 ?
  49 <massimo21> nope
  50 <clamam> no
  51 <jean7491> if no information, next item
  52 <jean7491> item #4 about importance of the booth/event reports (and pictures) ...
  53 <jean7491> i'd like to stress the importance of booth/activity reports, …
  54 <jean7491> first as  information source about activities : links are published in our monthly report, which is part of the (worldwide) ubuntu weekly report – everybody have access to the booth/event reports, …
  55 <jean7491> secondly as information source for future re-approval procedure, a kind of memory “this I swhat we have done” ...
  56 <jean7491> a few short sentences and a few pictures is enough
  57 <jean7491> comment ?
  58 <clamam> i have added with our last report the pictures as an attachement (bijlage) tot the wiki
  59 <JanC> certainly something to strive for
  60 <jean7491> clamam ok, i will include the pics below the report, but later
  61 <jean7491> we continue next topic # 2. Promotion
  62 <jean7491> first item Adding  links to the website 
  63 <jean7491> Details in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Commercial_links …
  64 <jean7491> the email contact-address for this matter is contact@ubuntu-be.org, ...
  65 <ILUsion> I urged all participants of Nielse dag to ammend my partial report, haven' heard back or checked
  66 <jean7491> mail with  announcement was sent to the mailing list. Feel free to relay the information to interested people/companies/organizations through personal contacts 
  67 <JanC> ILUsion: is there is your report, that's at least something
  68 <jean7491> ok, ILUsion
  69 <JanC> if there*
  70 <jean7491> comment about Adding  links to the website  ?
  71 <jean7491> still waiting for the 1st request
  72 <JanC> no
  73 <JanC> jean7491: there is one request
  74 <massimo21> so everybody of us can contact companies for adding their link to the site
  75 <JanC> by guy
  76 <jean7491> massimo21 yes
  77 <massimo21> i can contact the bitmappers
  78 <JanC> massimo21: you can give them teh info from that mail
  79 <JanC> we should put that info on the website too
  80 <massimo21> what info?
  81 <JanC> massimo21: the rules etc.
  82 <jean7491> JanC , nothing received from guy
  83 <JanC> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/2010-October/006840.html
  84 <JanC> massimo21: that info
  85 <massimo21> :-)
  86 <jean7491> JanC : when did you received mail from guy and through contact address ??
  87 <JanC> jean7491: subject is "commercial link" and time is yesterday 21:10
  88 <JanC> maybe check spam folder...
  89 <JanC> and yes, through contact address
  90 <jean7491> yes, i found it in spam gmail
  91 <JanC> if gmail keeps being stupid, I can change the address to forward mail to...  ;)
  92 <JanC> ask me outside the meeting or via mail then
  93 <massimo21> i got it too
  94 <ILUsion> you can make a filter not to make mails to that address spam ( and else after 1 or 2 unmarks, it should work fine)
  95 <jean7491> ok, now ! 
  96 <jean7491> now we wait for the 2d request !
  97 <jean7491> if no comment, we continue
  98 <massimo21> about te request
  99 <massimo21> how do we approve it?
 100 <JanC> we discuss internally and if it meets the rules, we add it to the site?
 101 <massimo21> that i did know
 102 <massimo21> but do we discuss it on irc or mailing list?
 103 <massimo21> or ...
 104 <jean7491> just read the request and see if ok, then send your advice to contact address
 105 <JanC> not on the public mailing list
 106 <massimo21> ok
 107 <massimo21> trough mail
 108 <massimo21> then
 109 <JanC> BTW: be sure to not send internal comments to the peopel makign a request  ;)
 110 <jean7491> idd
 111 * Gh0sty_ (~ghosty@ip-83-134-177-106.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 112 * stefan73be (~stefan73@d54C0866C.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 113 * stefan73 est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
 114 <jean7491> other comment/request ?
 115 <jean7491> question ?
 116 <massimo21> nope
 117 <jean7491> second item,  t-shirts for Ubuntu-be  
 118 <jean7491>  pre-selection:  v2-be;  v4-be;  v6-be, see the designs in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts   ...
 119 <jean7491> as warddr (leading the project is not available today) we wait his initiative or to call for a special meeting to progress.
 120 <jean7491> nothing to add ?
 121 <JanC> let's wait until he has time (if it doesn't take too long ;) )
 122 <jean7491> ok for me
 123 <jean7491> item 3 ubuntu and facebook   http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=87950312093&v=wall 
 124 <jean7491> suggestions and proposition to improve our facebook image are welcome
 125 <massimo21> i woud suggest something
 126 <massimo21> i think it is better to make a page
 127 <jean7491> thanks massimo21 and clamam for your inputs
 128 <massimo21> not group
 129 <massimo21> as a group you cannot post something as ubuntu
 130 <jean7491> why ? difference ?
 131 <massimo21> it is less official if it is me to post something
 132 <massimo21> understand the difference?
 133 <jean7491> can you use a nickname ? when you post ?
 134 <massimo21> nope
 135 <clamam> if we have a page you have to link your page to 1 email adress, to see the new request for friends
 136 <massimo21> if you want so i have to make a user named ubuntu be
 137 <clamam> i think that a group is better with more administrators
 138 <massimo21> that is also true
 139 * Gh0sty__ (~ghosty@ip-83-134-177-106.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 140 <clamam> the group like it is now is the better choice
 141 <ILUsion> can't we have both, or is that just a double administration?
 142 <clamam> we can have both
 143 <massimo21> explain doubble administration
 144 <ILUsion> well, does FB have functionality to post something to the group and the page at the same time, etc?
 145 <JanC> I think it's okay if you post things as a user
 146 <JanC> you can always refer to a more official source
 147 <clamam> i agree with JanC
 148 <massimo21> that is wath we are doing now
 149 <massimo21> :-)
 150 * Gh0sty_ est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
 151 <jean7491> to seem more "official" you could make a user named ubuntu be-FB_team, for example
 152 <ILUsion> I think massimo21 makes a valid point: if he posts to the group,  they will see his user name instead of our Ubuntu-be identity and that might be more confusing to users (on the other hand, FB is a confusin medium, so little harm done perhaps)
 153 <clamam> if we make a page you have to link 1 emailadress to the page
 154 * Gh0sty est parti (*.net *.split)
 155 * Gh0sty__ s'appelle maintenant Gh0sty
 156 <clamam> If that somebody does not have much times the page will not be updated
 157 <massimo21> we can make an gmail account
 158 <massimo21> share with more people
 159 <clamam> we could do that
 160 <massimo21> mine was just an opinion
 161 <clamam> but we have to make the page public like the group, so that other non-members can see the entire page
 162 <JanC> if there is a link to a more official source, there is no confusion
 163 <JanC> and a username on facebook says nothing
 164 <clamam> there are links on the group
 165 <clamam> ubuntu-be
 166 <clamam> ubuntu.com
 167 <massimo21> even ubuntu be wiki
 168 <massimo21> i suggest to evaluate a little bit more to see what happens
 169 <massimo21> there are already 65 members
 170 <JanC> I can make a username "thepope" and say that starting from now catholic priests can marry, and probably thousands of people will believe it (or maybe not ;) )
 171 <massimo21> lol
 172 <jean7491> the question is, if i understood, how to post as Ubuntu-be FB team and not as individual ... 
 173 <clamam> it's more personal if you see the name of a member when they post something, ubuntu is for the people and made by the people
 174 <JanC> clamam: that's a good argument too  ☺
 175 <clamam> but lets evaluate the facebook-group after 6 months or so
 176 <clamam> then we can see what we can do more or change
 177 <JanC> that's certainly a good idea
 178 <jean7491> ok, 
 179 <jean7491> we continue with next topic # 3. Update Wiki  ? if no other comment
 180 <jean7491>  item #1  structure of the wiki ...
 181 <jean7491> no reaction to last week proposal to review the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam with a limitation to 10 topics ...
 182 <jean7491> is someone interested in working on the wiki wtructure  or we skip the item/topic ??
 183 <JanC> skip it for this week
 184 <jean7491> ok, next topic# 4. Support points map status 
 185 <jean7491> mongolito404 is working further on this issue, but no information 
 186 <jean7491> no idea bout the success of the "migration"
 187 <ILUsion> gotta go, bye
 188 <massimo21> bye
 189 <jean7491> bye
 190 * ILUsion est parti ()
 191 <jean7491> next topic # 5. Things living in the mailing list and others questions ?
 192 <jean7491> nothing from my side, ???
 193 <clamam> nothing from me either
 194 <JanC> the loco council asks locoteams to log their main channel
 195 <JanC> or at least proposes to do that
 196 <JanC> would anybody be against that?
 197 <clamam> nope
 198 <massimo21> idem
 199 <jean7491> what's the benefit of such a log ?
 200 <JanC> one thing that would change: we would have to make sure that we don't mention plain e-mail address then
 201 <JanC> jean7491: everybody can read the logs then
 202 <JanC> and I think the loco council finds it useful in case their are conflicts inside locoteams
 203 <clamam> are the logs only for the loco council readable
 204 <JanC> so that they can see what really happened
 205 <clamam> or for everybody on the planet
 206 <JanC> no, the logs are public
 207 <JanC> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
 208 <clamam> the only thing is when we do a meeting, remember big brother is watching you
 209 <jean7491> our meetibgs are already available and can be read, i've no problem with the proposal, but do not understand the benefit for loco council or anyone else, just statistcs about activity or who is active ??
 210 <clamam> but i don't mind
 211 <JanC> clamam: if big brother wants to watch they can just sit here in the channel and log themselves  ;)
 212 <clamam> yep, that's right
 213 <clamam> :-[
 214 <JanC> I log everything too, so who says I'm not a member of the KGB?  ;)
 215 <jean7491> just see the difference between active  in the meeting and present in the channel
 216 <clamam> just don't share personal info, like email and so.... like you said
 217 <jean7491> for me ok
 218 <clamam> ok for me to
 219 <massimo21> ok
 220 <jean7491> now last topic, next irc meeting ? proposed on wednesday 13/10 or thursday 14/10 at 21 h. ?
 221 <massimo21> both ok for me
 222 <clamam> make a choice, it's the same for me
 223 <jean7491> JanC are you going to linuxbabbel on 14/10 ?
 224 <JanC> eh, probably not
 225 <jean7491> preference for the meetingsday ? 
 226 <JanC> not really
 227 <jean7491> if no preference, better thursday for eventualy warddr
 228 <massimo21> ok
 229 <massimo21> good night
 230 <clamam> ok
 231 <jean7491> next meeting thursday 14/10 at 21 
 232 <jean7491> end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, and have a good night !