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   1 02/12/2010 – 21,00 hr.
   2 <jean7491> hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   3 <clamam> hello jean
   4 <massimo21> 1up
   5 <woutervddn> 2up?
   6 <pep`> I'll be eavesdropping too... been a while. :-)
   7 <pep`> Hi all
   8 <massimo21> hi pep
   9 * woutervddn waves to pep
  10 <clamam> hello, woutervddn, pep, massimo21
  11 <JanC> hey all
  12 <clamam> hello JanC
  13 <jean7491> hello clamam , massimo21 , JanC , pep , woutervddn 
  14 <woutervddn> hey back 2 every1
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  16 <jean7491> anyone else for the meeting ?
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  19 * Guest3611 s'appelle maintenant zaphodje
  20 <jean7491> let's start  with topic #1. events ... 
  21 <jean7491> past and future events - november - december – update dipro computer fairs
  22 <jean7491>  item #1 dipro computer fair antwerpen, 28/11/2010, report
  23 <jean7491> event was successful, organization was ok,  a lot of visitors, report will follow in the wiki
  24 <jean7491> no other comment from my side on dipro a'pen
  25 <jean7491>  item #2  dipro computer fair mechelen, 12/12/2010,  ...
  26 <jean7491> coordinator: nero + 3 volunteers, additional volunteers are welcome
  27 <jean7491> sofar i know, no problem with the preparation
  28 <jean7491> no other comment from my side on dipro mechelen
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  30 <jean7491> next year, we start with item #3 dipro computer fair leuven 16/01/2011, …
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  32 <jean7491> we will need a team coordinator (who?) and a few additional volunteers (the two first are already in the wiki page)
  33 * zaphodje (~zaphod__j@78-21-84-124.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  34 <jean7491> i hope we will find a volunteer as coordinator before christmas holiday !
  35 <jean7491> are there comments about events ?
  36 <JanC> did you contact Mark already?
  37 <jean7491> not yet
  38 <JanC> okay, next item then?
  39 <jean7491> were ubunteros in leuven area active in the past ?
  40 <jean7491> first meeting ubuntu-be was in leuven, afaik
  41 * massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.222.188) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  42 <jean7491> if no comment about events, next topic: promotion 
  43 <JanC> jean7491: not sure what you mean by "first meeting"?
  44 <JanC> but most of the people who did fairs in Leuven in the past don't live there anymore or are busy with other things, I think
  45 * jimbauwens (~jim@d51538A12.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  46 <jimbauwens> sorry for being late
  47 <JanC> many of them were students
  48 <jean7491> ok, i'll ask mark for suggestion
  49 <jean7491> hello jimbauwens
  50 <jimbauwens> hello, i was cutting wood, and forgot
  51 <jimbauwens> :)
  52 <woutervddn> hi jim..
  53 <jimbauwens> Anything important that i missed
  54 <jimbauwens> hi wouter :)
  55 <jean7491> we just finish the 1st topic about events, looking for people for dipro leuven on 16/01/2011
  56 <jimbauwens> ok, good
  57 <jimbauwens> you may continue :)
  58 <jean7491> other future events are in the agenda on the web-site
  59 <jean7491> next topic # 2. Promotion
  60 <jean7491>  item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be ...
  61 <jean7491> I sent a mail to ward (leading the project), but no answer yet ...
  62 <massimo21> it's like this project is dead
  63 <jimbauwens> or he is
  64 <jean7491> as warddr is not present today, we wait for his initiative on this issue, or is there a volunteer to continue the project ?
  65 <woutervddn> jimbauwens :)
  66 <gadeynebram> was it desided yet where to buy the T-shirts? Or which design?
  67 <JanC> gadeynebram: no final decision was made
  68 <gadeynebram> okey
  69 <gadeynebram> but there were some requirements like "fairtrade " T-shirts etc.
  70 <woutervddn> and you still got a price of €5?
  71 <JanC> gadeynebram: yes, we want it to be "human"  ;)
  72 <JanC> woutervddn: I don't remember the exact price warddr found
  73 <gadeynebram> I'll look up some prices and locations of online printing services
  74 <JanC> but certainly less than 8€
  75 <woutervddn> I don't know it either, but last meeting there was said something about 5..
  76 <JanC> on-line or locally around where you live...
  77 <gadeynebram> online
  78 <JanC> woutervddn: I showed some shop that sold ecological (not fair-trade) t-shirts for < 5 €
  79 <woutervddn> ow. so without the print?
  80 <JanC> with the print
  81 <JanC> which means fair-trade should be possible for < 8 € I assume
  82 <JanC> it was just the first I could find anyway
  83 <gadeynebram> The design for the T-shirt is online I gues?
  84 <JanC> there are some designs on the wiki
  85 <gadeynebram> I mean the winner design of the voting
  86 <gadeynebram> winning*
  87 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
  88 <JanC> I also thought maybe we can ask open source designers like OSP if they want to make a design
  89 <jean7491> there was just a preselection of 3, but no limit for new proposals!
  90 <woutervddn> I made a design myself last week (after viewing those from the wiki and  the nl forum)
  91 <woutervddn> but I can't seem to find it right now..
  92 <massimo21> you can post it if you find it
  93 <jean7491> btw, it seems that 1 volunteer in charge of the project is a bad solution: a team of several volunteers should be more productive !
  94 <gadeynebram> I want to join the team
  95 <jean7491> we need an ad-hoc team with a volunteer to coordinate the work and exchange of information
  96 <jean7491> thanks bram, hoping we will find more interested people for the team or working-group!
  97 <gadeynebram> no problem
  98 <jean7491> other comment on this issue ?
  99 <gadeynebram> Well I have one question
 100 <jean7491> please send it
 101 <gadeynebram> does ubuntu-be have like a funding or something? I will not be able to pay for the T-shirts till they have all been selled
 102 <woutervddn> jean7491 you meant the Tshirt-project I suppose?
 103 <woutervddn> (not U-be in general?)
 104 <jean7491> http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/node/14  and http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/financial-information
 105 <gadeynebram> the okey I'll read that
 106 <JanC> gadeynebram: we have around 2k € I think
 107 <jean7491> ubuntu-be has a reserve that can be use, but of course, our only income is from public gifts
 108 <JanC> jean7491: and from selling stuff
 109 <jean7491> idd, money is available to start a project, but only if project is reasonable and well organized
 110 <JanC> personally I would like to know soon whether we will have t-shirts before FOSDEM...  ;)
 111 <gadeynebram> okey
 112 <gadeynebram> When is FOSDEM?
 113 <woutervddn> I'd love to help with the tshirts but as I'm new here I think someone else should take the lead..
 114 <JanC> first weekend February
 115 <woutervddn> JanC: it doesn't seem to hard to get them finished by then..
 116 <woutervddn> that gives us 3 months..
 117 <JanC> woutervddn: 2 months really
 118 <gadeynebram> woutervddn: If you'll join, I'll lead. You can always help to find some printing services etc.
 119 <woutervddn> indeed 2 months..
 120 <woutervddn> gadeynebram, not far from where I live is a printing service, I'll ask for prices there..
 121 <gadeynebram> @ JanC: I'll keep you posted through the mailinglist. I'm not able to join the meeting every week
 122 <jimbauwens> I wish I could help, but I have exams and such, so ..
 123 <gadeynebram> woutervddn: tnx!
 124 <woutervddn> Also I'd like to ask fairtrade.be if they have any ideas..
 125 <JanC> gadeynebram: great, and we can move meetign times if that's easier for some people (or set up ad hoc meetings about a topic)
 126 <gadeynebram> good idea!
 127 <JanC> we want it to be fairtrade + "green" if possible
 128 <jean7491> at least we start a working-group with 2 volunteers,  i propose to ask warddr to join the team or at least to pass his information on this issue
 129 <jean7491> other comment on the t-shirts ?
 130 <woutervddn> yes, I found my design..
 131 <woutervddn> here's the link: http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3686/tshirtlogoonside.png
 132 <gadeynebram> no further comments
 133 <JanC> woutervddn: it might be useful to think about practical (printing) issues too  ;)
 134 <woutervddn> yeah.. I allready thought about that :p
 135 <JanC> but let's leave that up to another time, and continue with the meeting
 136 <woutervddn> good id..
 137 <jean7491> woutervddn i'll add your design in the wiki, next ...
 138 <jean7491> next ... item #2. ubuntu and education : no information ...
 139 <woutervddn> thx
 140 <jean7491> and last item #3:  we need a new french press contact, as the current  has resigned for personal reason, but no information yet
 141 <jean7491> next topic # 3. Update Wiki : suggestion or comment from my side
 142 <jean7491> any comment ?
 143 <jean7491> topic# 4. Support points map status  ...
 144 <jean7491> no information about the map ...
 145 <jean7491> on the website, there is no information registration for new points of support – a bug report has been written...
 146 <JanC> saw that  ☺
 147 <jean7491> i suggest to post an email explaining the procedure how to register as support point
 148 <JanC> it needs to be on the site too
 149 <jean7491> idd, but not sure when it will happen
 150 <JanC> I think Pierre & pep` worked on that today?
 151 <jean7491> another solution is to add on the web-site a link to a wiki-page explaining the procedure ? (wiki is easy to improve)
 152 <jean7491> improve or amend
 153 <JanC> (pep` translated to German)
 154 <jean7491> yes, i asked for this afternoon
 155 <JanC> right, I see some bug mails about that
 156 <jean7491> the bug has been assigned to the WebEditor team ... ?
 157 <gadeynebram> I have to go
 158 <gadeynebram> bye!
 159 * gadeynebram (~gadeynebr@83.101.71.95) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 160 <woutervddn> bye..
 161 * jimbauwens2 (~yaaic@2002:5153:8a12:0:3ae7:d8ff:fed1:f1e9) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 162 <jean7491> JanC, i'll send you a proposal for a mail on this topic, for review
 163 <JanC> okay
 164 * jimbauwens est parti (Quit: Leaving)
 165 * jimbauwens2 s'appelle maintenant jimbauwens
 166 <jean7491> other comment on this topic ? how to call for new support points ?
 167 <massimo21> no comment
 168 <clamam> idem
 169 <woutervddn> idem
 170 <jean7491> next topic # 5. Things living in the mailing list and others questions ? ...
 171 <jean7491> For information, newcomer in the belgian local community team (launchpad) last week:  maik (DarkEra) already active in ubuntu-nl
 172 <jean7491> Remember monthly report november to be completed no later than  saturday 4/12
 173 <jean7491> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamReports/
 174 <jean7491> Other questions not in the agenda ?
 175 <woutervddn> yes.. about the website..
 176 <jean7491> yes ?
 177 <woutervddn> I'm running a completly new install of ubuntustudio here, using opera and again I don't see the style as it should be..
 178 <woutervddn> I think it's only a problem in opera but not sure..
 179 <woutervddn> (firefox has same problem apparently
 180 <JanC> what's the issue?
 181 <jean7491> no idea, generally no problem with firefox and chromium
 182 <JanC> woutervddn: is it still an issue when you force refresh?
 183 <woutervddn> it looks really ieuwi.. I don't know why it occurs..
 184 <woutervddn> yes, both in firefox and opera..
 185 <woutervddn> even after deleting all cache..
 186 <jimbauwens> what is your screen size?
 187 <woutervddn> 1600x900
 188 <JanC> maybe best make a screenshot and file a bug
 189 <jimbauwens> ok, not too small:)
 190 <woutervddn> firefox finally showed it right now (after 20 refreshes)
 191 <JanC> hm
 192 <woutervddn> *-) Really strange! I think the websites hates me :s²
 193 <JanC> woutervddn: do you also have that on other Ubuntu sites?
 194 <woutervddn> no.. that's the strangest thing.. wiki n stuff loads perfect
 195 <jean7491> other comment on this issue ?
 196 <JanC> woutervddn: so file a bug against the ubuntu-be site
 197 <JanC> jean7491: no, let's move on
 198 <jean7491> a last item for topic promotion : Customized Ubuntu-be iso file ...
 199 <jean7491> last week we spoke about it, is there something new to add ? for next meeting ?
 200 <JanC> not from me
 201 <JanC> (now)
 202 <jimbauwens> also not from me
 203 <massimo21> maybe we can leave a program like pitivi away to make usefull plase for the language
 204 <massimo21> place
 205 <jean7491> eventually could be launch in the mailing list for reactions and propositions
 206 <jean7491> and discuss at a next meeting ?
 207 <jimbauwens> maybe I could create a dummy package for ubuntu-restricted-extras
 208 <massimo21> but whit the new install isn't a problem anymore
 209 <woutervddn> how do you mean massimo21?
 210 <massimo21> in the install it asks you
 211 <jimbauwens> the new install only provides mp3 playback
 212 <massimo21> no
 213 <JanC> jimbauwens: I think ubuntu-restricted-extras can be installed with a checkbox now?
 214 <massimo21> it asls you to install the restricted extras
 215 <massimo21> yes
 216 <massimo21> it's what i mean
 217 <JanC> or does it only install the mp3 codec?
 218 <JanC> I didn't really test that
 219 <massimo21> everything
 220 <massimo21> i did
 221 <JanC> okay  ☺
 222 <jimbauwens> hmm, last time I checked it was only mp3, but I could be wrong
 223 <JanC> well, easy to test in VirtualBox or so  ;)
 224 <jimbauwens> yes
 225 <JanC> and in any case, codecs are installed automaticly when needed
 226 <jimbauwens> but flash is also important
 227 <massimo21> firefox asks you now to install flash when needed
 228 <jimbauwens> not the real one
 229 <massimo21> what do you mean?
 230 <jimbauwens> a open source version which in some way sucks :)
 231 <massimo21> not for flash
 232 <massimo21> only java is open java
 233 <jimbauwens> I had this problem when I installed ubuntu for the first time
 234 <jimbauwens> FireFox install gnash or something like that
 235 <JanC> it proposes to install the closed flash too
 236 <JanC> it actually shows 2 or 3
 237 <massimo21> firefox gives you the choise
 238 <massimo21> and for that i am shure
 239 <jimbauwens> oh, it must have changed :D
 240 <woutervddn> I do remember that I had to allow flash in the 'supported by cannonical' tab of the softwarecenter..
 241 <jimbauwens> ok, tyen there is no problem
 242 <massimo21> ubuntu always gets bether
 243 <JanC> also, hopefully the new open source flash project gets better soon
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 245 <jimbauwens> it is getting better
 246 <JanC> as it's already faster than the closed source one in some cases ;)
 247 <JanC> lightspark or whatever it's named
 248 <JanC> but lets move on with the meeting first
 249 <jimbauwens> :)
 250 <JanC> jean7491: other topics left?
 251 <jean7491> if no other question,  last topic, next irc meeting ?  i propose meeting next week, on thursday 09/12/2010  at 21 h. 
 252 <massimo21> ok for me
 253 <JanC> okido
 254 <clamam> ok, good night
 255 <woutervddn> I'm in exams then so I'm not sure I can make it..
 256 <massimo21> good night
 257 <pep`> I'm out then, good night.
 258 <jimbauwens> I also have exams
 259 <jean7491> end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, and have a good night !