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   1 fév 03 21:02:10 <jean7491>	   hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   2 fév 03 21:03:37 <massimo21>	:-)
   3 fév 03 21:04:31 <clamam>	Hello
   4 fév 03 21:05:51 <mongolito404>	I'm kind of here
   5 fév 03 21:06:22 <jean7491>	hi massimo21  clamam mongolito404 ! JanC ? mimor ?
   6 fév 03 21:09:49 <jean7491>	JanC ? mimor ?
   7 fév 03 21:13:59 <jean7491>	i'd like to start now with topic #1.  Past and future events,  item #1   dipro computer fair ghent 30/01/2011, but i need JanC or mimor to get information !
   8 fév 03 21:16:00 <jean7491>	we continue with item #2  Dipro fair Kortrijk 06/02/2011
   9 fév 03 21:16:08 <jean7491>	 same day as fosdem !
  10 fév 03 21:16:17 <jean7491>	 team consists of 4 ubunteros, additional volunteers will be welcome!
  11 fév 03 21:16:27 <jean7491>	preparation is going on
  12 fév 03 21:16:36 <jean7491>	 wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2011-02-06
  13 fév 03 21:17:06 <jean7491>	but i presume you can not help in kortrijk !
  14 fév 03 21:17:36 <clamam>	no, it's too far away
  15 fév 03 21:17:47 <clamam>	2 a 3h drive
  16 fév 03 21:17:59 <jean7491>	idd ! 
  17 fév 03 21:19:00 <jean7491>	JanC ? 
  18 fév 03 21:21:56 *	padv est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
  19 fév 03 21:24:26 <jean7491>	next item #3 fosdem 05-06/02/2011 – Brussels 
  20 fév 03 21:24:46 <jean7491>	but without JanC , nothing to report !
  21 fév 03 21:25:11 <jean7491>	next item #4 hobby and computers days - antwerp 26-27/02/2011
  22 fév 03 21:25:26 <jean7491>	ubuntu-be will organize a booth during the 2 days, …
  23 fév 03 21:25:34 <jean7491>	therefore, we need  at least 2x4 volunteers. Names are already in, but noy enough. 
  24 fév 03 21:25:45 <jean7491>	 willing to help promoting ubuntu ?  please add your names in the wiki
  25 fév 03 21:25:51 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2011-02-26-27
  26 fév 03 21:26:15 <jean7491>	it is less far than kortrijk !
  27 fév 03 21:27:44 <rulus>	I can probably make that, but will need to check agenda
  28 fév 03 21:27:53 <jean7491>	i hope more volunteers will react, at least 2 x 2 
  29 fév 03 21:28:12 *	woutervddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  30 fév 03 21:28:27 <woutervddn>	hi guys.. sry I'm late..
  31 fév 03 21:28:30 <jean7491>	as you see in the wiki, we have at least 2 on saturday and 2 on sunday
  32 fév 03 21:28:49 <jean7491>	hi woutervddn
  33 fév 03 21:28:51 *	mongolito404 thinking out loud
  34 fév 03 21:28:54 <woutervddn>	o/
  35 fév 03 21:29:15 <jean7491>	JanC ?
  36 fév 03 21:29:24 <mongolito404>	should we have a page on the wiki describing what we do at Dirpros to ease recruitment ?
  37 fév 03 21:29:39 <mongolito404>	s/on the wiki/website
  38 fév 03 21:30:00 <woutervddn>	^+1
  39 fév 03 21:30:03 <jean7491>	there are some elements, ...
  40 fév 03 21:30:27 <jean7491>	but a part is personnal experience ...
  41 fév 03 21:31:58 <mongolito404>	jean7491: Where exactly ?
  42 fév 03 21:32:08 <jean7491>	wait
  43 fév 03 21:33:12 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs and link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoComputerFairHowto 
  44 fév 03 21:34:34 <mongolito404>	That's info to help organisation, what I was thinking of is more an introduction to what we (actually you) are doing at fairs it has been said on the mailing list numerous times)
  45 fév 03 21:35:24 <jean7491>	and btw in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoComputerFairHowto we could add a picture of the last booth in hasselt
  46 fév 03 21:35:35 <mongolito404>	To be used as reference when I want to say "hey, here <link> is what nice people in Ubuntu-be.org are doing at Dipros, see nothing hard. Wanna join ?"
  47 fév 03 21:35:38 <woutervddn>	we could add that info on the "participate" page?
  48 fév 03 21:36:17 <mongolito404>	woutervddn: yes
  49 fév 03 21:38:06 *	massimo21 est parti (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  50 fév 03 21:38:24 <jean7491>	short text as i often send in the mailing list (when asking for volunteers)  is easy, but "what we do" is more in the booth reports and pictures in the wiki
  51 fév 03 21:39:18 <woutervddn>	jean, we could make a selection of photo's and info which is sort of an advertisement to people to volunteer on a fair..
  52 fév 03 21:39:53 <mongolito404>	Exactly, the same kind of text sent by jean7491 on the ML + some pictures.
  53 fév 03 21:39:59 <woutervddn>	(read advertisement as brochure or something..) photo's on facebook where THE thing that made me join my first fair..
  54 fév 03 21:40:01 <jean7491>	but what i write is my personnal opinion about what we should do, don't know if there is a consensus
  55 fév 03 21:40:59 <mongolito404>	As usual, the consensus is made be those doing the things (and anybody can), so if we (people discussing and willing to put the content on the site) agree on something, we do it.
  56 fév 03 21:41:12 <woutervddn>	@jean: is your opinion in the line of the Ubuntu-be goals?
  57 fév 03 21:42:07 <jean7491>	@woutervddn: i hope! @mongolito404 : perhaps link to pictures in facebook could be a good idea
  58 fév 03 21:43:07 <woutervddn>	why not put the pictures on the site also? make the page look good and make it easy for people to see in 1 shot what the fairs are about.. :)
  59 fév 03 21:43:55 <clamam>	it's a good idea to promote our work/hobby on facebook or ubuntu-be.org, maybe we can interest some people for joining us
  60 fév 03 21:45:06 <mongolito404>	clamam: exactly
  61 fév 03 21:45:48 <jean7491>	i fully agree with the need to promote our job/work/hobby ! ...
  62 fév 03 21:45:55 <woutervddn>	my facebook profile has at least one ubuntu related status a week.. most people don't really care about it but yesterday I had a friend telling me he saw a website on the internet that said: download for ubuntu.. He asked me to install U for him.. :)
  63 fév 03 21:46:34 *	massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.193.13) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  64 fév 03 21:48:24 <jean7491>	problem is to compose the promotion (pics and text) and how to publish it ? ... 
  65 fév 03 21:49:33 <jean7491>	as i already spend a lot of time in organizing or helping to organize, i've no time to do that !
  66 fév 03 21:49:49 <woutervddn>	I'm sure drupal can handle that.. (or can't it?) problem is I can't post pictures on the site :p
  67 fév 03 21:50:17 <woutervddn>	apart from that I can make/compose the text for it.. :)
  68 fév 03 21:53:05 <jean7491>	thanks for helping !
  69 fév 03 21:53:47 <mongolito404>	woutervddn: you can start working on the text
  70 fév 03 21:54:00 <mongolito404>	And yes, Drupal can handle pictures
  71 fév 03 21:54:18 <woutervddn>	np.. ^^ now that I don't have to send a dozen of emails each evening to people who buy shirts I have some time left.. ;-)
  72 fév 03 21:54:52 <woutervddn>	@mongolito404: I will.. I suppose you could add the pictures if I'd put the links between brackets or something?
  73 fév 03 21:55:23 <jean7491>	woutervddn, i'll send you a few text i often use ...
  74 fév 03 21:55:26 <mongolito404>	woutervddn: pm
  75 fév 03 21:56:20 <jean7491>	i propose to continue a last item in the events, before promotion and t-shirts
  76 fév 03 21:56:48 <jean7491>	item #5 digital week 2011, (28/02-05/03/2011)  
  77 fév 03 21:56:54 <jean7491>	already scheduled on 03/03/2011: presentation (2 sessions) of Ubuntu in the public library – Ostend
  78 fév 03 21:57:00 <jean7491>	wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/DigitalWeek-2011
  79 fév 03 21:57:12 <jean7491>	other info: http://www.digitaleweek.be/organisatie/ubuntu-belgië 
  80 fév 03 21:57:19 <jean7491>	has someone new information about the digital week ?
  81 fév 03 21:59:27 <jean7491>	if no comment, next topic # 2. Promotion
  82 fév 03 21:59:37 <jean7491>	 item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : 
  83 fév 03 21:59:49 <jean7491>	you can pre-order your t-shirts till 06/02 (at promotional price), …
  84 fév 03 21:59:58 <jean7491>	https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dFBJTlJBcGJtdFc0cEZNMlFfaVU0Z3c6MQ#gid=0
  85 fév 03 22:00:00 <woutervddn>	indeed..
  86 fév 03 22:00:09 *	rulus est parti (Quit: Ik ga weg)
  87 fév 03 22:00:11 <jean7491>	update by wouter ?
  88 fév 03 22:00:13 *	JanC drops in
  89 fév 03 22:00:20 <woutervddn>	and I am pleased to tell you all that we allready sold 1/4th of the shirts!
  90 fév 03 22:00:35 <jean7491>	nice!
  91 fév 03 22:01:00 <woutervddn>	and the shirts arrived at JanC earlier this week..
  92 fév 03 22:01:08 <woutervddn>	@janC: how do they look?
  93 fév 03 22:01:36 <JanC>	they are black with text on it ;-)
  94 fév 03 22:01:45 <mongolito404>	awesome !
  95 fév 03 22:01:53 <JanC>	woutervddn: I guess I'll have to take away what is already ordered?
  96 fév 03 22:02:19 <woutervddn>	I suppose that is a good idea :)
  97 fév 03 22:02:34 <JanC>	did anything change since your last mail to me?
  98 fév 03 22:03:04 <woutervddn>	we now sold 6 mediums 7 larges 9XL's and 3XXL's :)
  99 fév 03 22:03:23 <woutervddn>	times €12 is 300€
 100 fév 03 22:04:30 <JanC>	will you be at FOSDEM Saturday morning?
 101 fév 03 22:05:03 <JanC>	it would have been better to stop pre-sales tomorrow  ;)
 102 fév 03 22:05:12 <woutervddn>	I won't (else I'd take the shirts myself)
 103 fév 03 22:05:57 <JanC>	now we will be selling t-shirts in 2 places...
 104 fév 03 22:06:00 <woutervddn>	JanC: I thought about that yesterday, but it doesn't really matter if they order later, they'll just have to wait until we order more..
 105 fév 03 22:07:24 <woutervddn>	Other Ubuntu-be users understand that we can't garantee that we don't run out of shirts..
 106 fév 03 22:07:49 <JanC>	can you send a list of what I have to take out of the box to the mailing list on Saturday morning or Friday evening?
 107 fév 03 22:08:26 <woutervddn>	I'll send you friday evening. I'm going to send 1 last call to order this evening.
 108 fév 03 22:08:26 <JanC>	I'll probably not read mails, but I can do a quick check on the ML archives with any computer...
 109 fév 03 22:08:48 <woutervddn>	I'll put it on the ML then :)
 110 fév 03 22:09:04 <woutervddn>	Or if you want I can text you.. :)
 111 fév 03 22:09:16 <JanC>	ML is okay
 112 fév 03 22:09:23 <woutervddn>	ok..
 113 fév 03 22:09:43 <jean7491>	something else for the t-shirts ?
 114 fév 03 22:10:00 <woutervddn>	1 more thing..
 115 fév 03 22:10:18 <woutervddn>	I'd like to make something different then the existing google form.. :p
 116 fév 03 22:10:33 <woutervddn>	it works but it's tons and tons of work to do everything manually.. :p
 117 fév 03 22:10:47 <woutervddn>	so I'll probably make a script or something else to automate this.. :)
 118 fév 03 22:11:21 <jean7491>	ok
 119 fév 03 22:11:37 *	JanC goes working on FOSDEM stuff again, ping me if you need me  ☺
 120 fév 03 22:13:39 <jean7491>	JanC : something to say about fosdem ?
 121 fév 03 22:13:57 <jean7491>	item #3 fosdem 05-06/02/2011 – Brussels : comment JanC ?...
 122 fév 03 22:16:46 <JanC>	I'm working on it, and we will have chocolate with Tux on it to sell in addition to the t-shirts
 123 fév 03 22:16:53 <JanC>	there will be a mail later this evening
 124 fév 03 22:17:17 <jean7491>	ok, nothing for the meeting ?
 125 fév 03 22:17:55 <jean7491>	 Jan C : and how was dipro ghent ?
 126 fév 03 22:18:14 <JanC>	mimor: ^^^
 127 fév 03 22:18:46 <JanC>	anyway, it was just me & mimor who were there, mimor was going to contact the others who said they would come
 128 fév 03 22:18:54 <JanC>	I don't know more about that
 129 fév 03 22:19:23 <JanC>	there wasn't a lot of visitors either (maybe because of teh cyclocross championship)
 130 fév 03 22:19:50 <jean7491>	ok, did you find hardware for fosdem ?
 131 fév 03 22:21:05 <JanC>	no problem (I hope, installing natty on them...)
 132 fév 03 22:21:46 <jean7491>	ok, we continue with promotion item #2
 133 fév 03 22:21:56 <jean7491>	item #2 other material - promotion material for fairs/events : 
 134 fév 03 22:22:06 <jean7491>	first :flyers 2011
 135 fév 03 22:22:12 <jean7491>	we need more new ideas/designs for new flyers 2011 …
 136 fév 03 22:22:20 <jean7491>	till now, only 1 proposal, with a few remarks in the wiki page (to be improved)
 137 fév 03 22:22:26 <woutervddn>	I have received a flyer from someone..
 138 fév 03 22:22:27 <woutervddn>	sec
 139 fév 03 22:22:35 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011
 140 fév 03 22:22:59 <woutervddn>	Massimiliano Lentini emailed me his flyer.
 141 fév 03 22:23:33 <woutervddn>	He used mine as a base to start of but he used the U-be tag and changed the text and icons.
 142 fév 03 22:23:59 <woutervddn>	He said he'd do some changes and he'll put it on the wiki then.
 143 fév 03 22:24:09 <woutervddn>	I also suggested that he put it out on spreadubuntu.com
 144 fév 03 22:24:28 <woutervddn>	spreadubuntu.org*
 145 fév 03 22:24:37 <massimo21>	when i am done  i will do that
 146 fév 03 22:25:36 <woutervddn>	lol xD didn't knew you were here :p
 147 fév 03 22:26:03 <woutervddn>	I'm thinking of also making an entirely new one.. but I need some time to do that..
 148 fév 03 22:26:15 <woutervddn>	@jean7491: what was the deadline for the flyers?
 149 fév 03 22:27:40 <massimo21>	I am also working on a new one
 150 fév 03 22:27:51 <massimo21>	maybe we can work togheter
 151 fév 03 22:28:13 <jean7491>	no deadline, i expect we will need it in september
 152 fév 03 22:28:18 <woutervddn>	good idea.. we might talk everything trough on the ML, maybe it makes people create there own..
 153 fév 03 22:28:31 <jean7491>	idd
 154 fév 03 22:28:42 <jean7491>	deadline is in fact end of june
 155 fév 03 22:28:50 <woutervddn>	ok..
 156 fév 03 22:32:05 <jean7491>	feel free to add comments/proposals in the ml and in the wiki
 157 fév 03 22:32:27 <jean7491>	second idea for a more “professional” look of our booths and events ...
 158 fév 03 22:32:34 <jean7491>	we could use rollups with ubuntu logo or another design ? (cost +/- 60 euros)
 159 fév 03 22:32:39 <woutervddn>	ok.
 160 fév 03 22:32:57 <jean7491>	please add your suggestions/comments in the wiki:
 161 fév 03 22:33:02 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
 162 fév 03 22:33:12 <woutervddn>	would it be cheaper to take an ubuntu roll up from canonical then to make our own ubuntu-be one?
 163 fév 03 22:33:57 <jean7491>	from canonical ??? ... to start with something, i just added 3 examples
 164 fév 03 22:34:06 <jean7491>	in the wiki
 165 fév 03 22:34:25 <jean7491>	i don't know about canonical rollups ?
 166 fév 03 22:35:11 <woutervddn>	hmm.. I thought there were.. sec I'll look it up
 167 fév 03 22:36:25 <woutervddn>	indeed there aren't on their shop.. strange.. we were talking about canonical rollups on the ubuntu-art ML..
 168 fév 03 22:37:21 <jean7491>	perhaps there are somewhere else, not in the shop ?
 169 fév 03 22:38:06 <woutervddn>	I'll ask about it :)
 170 fév 03 22:38:29 <jean7491>	good idea to ask canonical for it !
 171 fév 03 22:39:01 <jean7491>	other comment about promotion topic ?
 172 fév 03 22:40:25 <jean7491>	topic # 3. Update Wiki : are there suggestions or comments (beside the need to promote our actions in fairs)
 173 fév 03 22:41:13 <woutervddn>	Well I think we all should take a look at it and update something..
 174 fév 03 22:41:36 <woutervddn>	I'd love to do it but it's not like I have an infinite amount of time..
 175 fév 03 22:41:50 <jean7491>	nor me !
 176 fév 03 22:41:59 <woutervddn>	would it be an idea to set up an update team?
 177 fév 03 22:42:25 <woutervddn>	sort of like the tshirt team.. just a few members that put their teeth in it for a week or 2..
 178 fév 03 22:42:38 <jean7491>	yes, but if we are both the only members ?!
 179 fév 03 22:43:40 <woutervddn>	hmm.. we could ask the ML..
 180 fév 03 22:44:28 <jean7491>	as the load of work is fairly high for the moment, i suggast to wait for better moment !
 181 fév 03 22:44:56 <woutervddn>	good plan..
 182 fév 03 22:45:05 <jean7491>	topic# 4. Update web-site : are there suggestions or comments ? mongolito404 ?
 183 fév 03 22:45:32 <mongolito404>	The suggestion I made about dipro
 184 fév 03 22:45:35 <mongolito404>	But that's all
 185 fév 03 22:45:50 <mongolito404>	I've not announced loudly http://ubuntu-be.org/fr/social_networks
 186 fév 03 22:45:58 <mongolito404>	So no feedback on this
 187 fév 03 22:46:35 <woutervddn>	mongolito: how does it work so far?
 188 fév 03 22:47:15 <mongolito404>	It fetch the Atom feed from Twitter and Identi.ca and store each entry in the DB
 189 fév 03 22:47:21 <mongolito404>	I can fetch any Atom feed
 190 fév 03 22:47:45 <woutervddn>	but still no luck with facebook?
 191 fév 03 22:47:47 <mongolito404>	On the page, all entry are displayed (with paging)
 192 fév 03 22:48:06 <mongolito404>	No luck with facebook, FB doesn't provide any Atom or RSS feed for group
 193 fév 03 22:48:23 <mongolito404>	There is a JSON "feed" available but I've worked on that
 194 fév 03 22:48:39 <mongolito404>	The "easier" would be to have some proxy to Atom-ize FB's JSON
 195 fév 03 22:49:15 <woutervddn>	would that be hard?
 196 fév 03 22:50:27 <mongolito404>	Not really hard, but unfun to me
 197 fév 03 22:51:02 <woutervddn>	so we need an U-be member that loves to get his hands dirty? :p
 198 fév 03 22:52:51 <mongolito404>	yep
 199 fév 03 22:54:13 <jean7491>	we continue with next topic # 5. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ?
 200 fév 03 22:54:36 <jean7491>	from last week - Possibility of a meeting IRL ? (Meet & Drink?) 
 201 fév 03 22:55:01 <woutervddn>	I like that idea..
 202 fév 03 22:55:19 <woutervddn>	it's a shame that there wasn't real response on the ML..
 203 fév 03 22:55:31 <woutervddn>	how has this been organised/handled in the past?
 204 fév 03 22:55:39 *	padv (~pascal@ip-83-134-153-218.dsl.scarlet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 205 fév 03 22:55:57 <mongolito404>	it hasn't
 206 fév 03 22:56:06 <jean7491>	nothing since end 2008, i don't know before ?
 207 fév 03 22:56:28 <woutervddn>	:O
 208 fév 03 22:58:43 <woutervddn>	So it's really starting from scratch..
 209 fév 03 22:58:50 <jean7491>	if someone is willing to relaunch the idea in the ml ? we will see if reaction ?
 210 fév 03 22:59:21 <jean7491>	i though clamam or massimo were taking initiative ?
 211 fév 03 23:00:12 <clamam>	that's true, but i had little time to look for locations on the internet
 212 fév 03 23:01:50 <woutervddn>	clamam.. I'd like to help in this to..
 213 fév 03 23:02:00 <jean7491>	ok
 214 fév 03 23:02:18 <jean7491>	are there other questions not in the agenda ? (except next meeting)
 215 fév 03 23:02:40 <clamam>	ok woutervddn
 216 fév 03 23:03:23 <jean7491>	if no question, ... last topic, next irc meeting ? on thursday 10/02/2011 at 21 h.
 217 fév 03 23:04:51 <woutervddn>	should be fine for me :)
 218 fév 03 23:04:51 <clamam>	ok, good night
 219 fév 03 23:04:54 *	clamam (~claudio@d51A51FDD.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 220 fév 03 23:04:55 <woutervddn>	gn
 221 fév 03 23:05:00 <massimo21>	good niight
 222 fév 03 23:05:02 <jean7491>	end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !