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   1 fév 17 21:00:29 <jean7491>	hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   2 fév 17 21:00:46 <warddr>	great :D
   3 fév 17 21:00:52 <warddr>	I am, jean7491
   4 fév 17 21:00:59 *	massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.70.86) a quitté #ubuntu-be
   5 fév 17 21:01:16 <woutervddn>	me 2 of course
   6 fév 17 21:01:45 <lofty40>	me 2, being curious
   7 fév 17 21:01:51 <acraens>	i'm here to get a feeling how things are organised
   8 fév 17 21:03:12 <woutervddn>	lofty
   9 fév 17 21:03:26 <woutervddn>	*lofty40, are you new?
  10 fév 17 21:03:33 <jean7491>	hello acraens , woutervddn , warddr , lofty40 , massimo21 
  11 fév 17 21:03:50 <lofty40>	Already using ubuntu/mythtv for about 2 years.
  12 fév 17 21:04:04 <woutervddn>	but you're new to U-be
  13 fév 17 21:04:22 <woutervddn>	anyways, welcome acraens and lofty40
  14 fév 17 21:04:26 <acraens>	si'm new 2
  15 fév 17 21:05:00 <djim-fey>	me 2 new here
  16 fév 17 21:05:05 <lofty40>	I am following the group a long time, and should get more active
  17 fév 17 21:05:16 <warddr>	cool acraens , djim-fey and lofty40
  18 fév 17 21:05:26 <woutervddn>	well welcome to djim-fey also then ^^
  19 fév 17 21:05:27 <warddr>	And welcome
  20 fév 17 21:05:29 <jean7491>	hello djim-fey
  21 fév 17 21:05:43 <djim-fey>	hi @ all
  22 fév 17 21:08:43 <JanC>	o/
  23 fév 17 21:08:53 <jean7491>	lofty40  djim-fey  acraens , if possible introduce yourself to the group (where you are located, your experience), the conversation is easier when you know to who you are speaking, but of course you are free to do or not !, we start the meeting in 5 min.
  24 fév 17 21:09:03 <jean7491>	hi JanC
  25 fév 17 21:11:10 <acraens>	ok, i'm alex and living just outside of Leuven. I heve been using Ubuntu on and off the last two years on an old Dell Laptop. I hope i can get more into things since i'm trying to convince my boss to use some Ubuntu rrunPC and perhaps a server.
  26 fév 17 21:11:45 <jean7491>	thx acraens, welcome !
  27 fév 17 21:11:57 <acraens>	I see myself a user right now but hope to help others
  28 fév 17 21:12:16 <lofty40>	I am an open source enthusiast since 3-4 years, running solely on ubuntu since 2years and especially interested in media. Living near saint-nicolas.
  29 fév 17 21:12:36 <djim-fey>	i used pc more than 10 years and since last week begin with ubuntu because of my university study so i'm quite in linux. im in hoboken & speak dutch
  30 fév 17 21:13:04 <JanC>	lofty40: do you mean "Sint-Niklaas" ?
  31 fév 17 21:13:10 <lofty40>	yes
  32 fév 17 21:13:16 <woutervddn>	@djim-fey, what do you study?
  33 fév 17 21:13:34 <djim-fey>	chemistry
  34 fév 17 21:13:38 <woutervddn>	lofty40:  do you mean graphical art and stuff?
  35 fév 17 21:14:03 <warddr>	lofty40 and djim-fey If you're intereseted in promoting ubuntu, we're still looking for some volunteers at Hobby en Computerdagen in antwerp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2011-02-26-27
  36 fév 17 21:14:18 <lofty40>	More media like video, satellite, ...
  37 fév 17 21:14:30 <woutervddn>	interesting :p
  38 fév 17 21:14:35 <jean7491>	thx lofty40  djim-fey !
  39 fév 17 21:14:39 <djim-fey>	i chose programming as 1 of my 'bijvak'
  40 fév 17 21:14:46 <woutervddn>	ow
  41 fév 17 21:15:13 <jean7491>	now let's start the meeting ...
  42 fév 17 21:15:19 <jean7491>	topic #1.  Past and future events
  43 fév 17 21:15:25 <jean7491>	item #1 fosdem 05-06/02/2011 – JanC – something to add ?
  44 fév 17 21:15:40 <djim-fey>	im here today cuz i also want more info about 26/02
  45 fév 17 21:16:02 <JanC>	I put the money we made at FOSDEM on the ubuntu-be account today
  46 fév 17 21:16:13 <JanC>	which was > 1000
  47 fév 17 21:16:32 <JanC>	so woutervddn can order more t-shirts now  ☺
  48 fév 17 21:16:46 <woutervddn>	yes.. good..
  49 fév 17 21:17:24 <jean7491>	but first ... contact mark !
  50 fév 17 21:17:45 <jean7491>	JanC : please do not forget a short report + pics in the wiki !
  51 fév 17 21:17:51 <JanC>	it might take 1 or 2 days to get on the ubuntu-be account indeed
  52 fév 17 21:18:11 <woutervddn>	@jean: don't worry, I will but I'll inform the guy from the printing firm
  53 fév 17 21:18:38 <JanC>	I have no pics, so I guess I'll have to ask others...
  54 fév 17 21:18:52 <JanC>	woutervddn: did they keep the "master" ?
  55 fév 17 21:18:59 <jean7491>	ok 
  56 fév 17 21:19:24 <woutervddn>	janC: I don't know yet, but I do hope so
  57 fév 17 21:19:35 <jean7491>	we continue ...
  58 fév 17 21:19:45 <jean7491>	item #2 hobby and computers days - antwerp 26-27/02/2011
  59 fév 17 21:20:13 <jean7491>	team and material should be ok, bram is in charge of the coordination, ...
  60 fév 17 21:20:46 <warddr>	djim-fey, what did you want to know about the hobby and computer days?
  61 fév 17 21:20:56 <jean7491>	djim-fey for more details , please contact bram
  62 fév 17 21:21:22 <djim-fey>	how?
  63 fév 17 21:22:23 <JanC>	I will give "Nero" table cloth, banner, posters & t-shirts
  64 fév 17 21:22:55 <jean7491>	djim-fey  - by mail, i sent you in pm the address
  65 fév 17 21:23:15 <djim-fey>	ok thx
  66 fév 17 21:23:22 <jean7491>	i'm not sure about the coordination for the move of material from brugge to antwerpen ...
  67 fév 17 21:23:51 <JanC>	I'll work that out with Nero
  68 fév 17 21:23:54 <jean7491>	i sent mails to bram and nero on the issue, this evening
  69 fév 17 21:24:02 <JanC>	normally he comes on Saturday
  70 fév 17 21:24:35 <JanC>	I think I have a stack of about 4-5cm thick of flyers also
  71 fév 17 21:25:08 <jean7491>	ok, but i think bram should agree to take the charge of the t-shirts (=300 euros!)
  72 fév 17 21:25:17 <JanC>	Nero comes next Saturday to Brugge I mean
  73 fév 17 21:25:43 <JanC>	jean7491: what do you mean?
  74 fév 17 21:26:48 <jean7491>	t-shirts is an additional charge (inventaris and inventaris) for the team ...
  75 fév 17 21:27:39 <jean7491>	i already tried with the question, but no answer yet ...
  76 fév 17 21:28:19 <JanC>	maybe easier if Nero takes leftovers back home and makes a list of what's left?
  77 fév 17 21:29:14 <jean7491>	perhaps, you certainly can give some stickers Powered by Ubuntu, posters "de weg ...", cd's, chocolates ?
  78 fév 17 21:29:19 <JanC>	unless we just leave them for the Antwerp team?
  79 fév 17 21:29:38 <JanC>	right, I got new stickers today
  80 fév 17 21:30:02 <jean7491>	what do you mean ? speaking about chocolates for a'pen team ?
  81 fév 17 21:30:58 <JanC>	I mean whatever is left from t-shirts--they can also keep them for next events they do...
  82 fév 17 21:32:03 <jean7491>	not sure if this is the best solution! another is the stock back to wouter ?
  83 fév 17 21:32:51 <JanC>	the new free stickers have a "metalic" look now, but the ones from ubuntu-fr that we can sell for 0,50 € are much more "sturdy"
  84 fév 17 21:33:44 <jean7491>	anyway, if nero comes back with the last t-shirts, it is easier to sent t-shirts where necessary
  85 fév 17 21:34:23 <woutervddn>	well I don't mind to have the shirts with me, but it's always better if someone sells them at a fair..
  86 fév 17 21:34:30 <JanC>	maybe they will all be gone anyway  ;)
  87 fév 17 21:35:02 <jean7491>	i suggest to see with nero, and later with bram
  88 fév 17 21:35:04 <woutervddn>	That would be nice :)
  89 fév 17 21:35:25 <JanC>	woutervddn: you won't be in Antwerp I suppose?
  90 fév 17 21:35:27 <warddr>	Nero coordinates the boots in Mechelen most of the time, there is one 27/03/2011
  91 fév 17 21:35:40 <jean7491>	idd
  92 fév 17 21:35:45 <warddr>	maybe he can use them there
  93 fév 17 21:35:54 <jean7491>	yes
  94 fév 17 21:36:18 <woutervddn>	I'm not planning to :)
  95 fév 17 21:36:38 <JanC>	woutervddn: maybe if we can have new t-shirts before Antwerp, what if you let them be delivered to Nero's place (if he agrees of course!)
  96 fév 17 21:37:29 <JanC>	except this time we really need to put pre-ordered t-shirts aside  ;)
  97 fév 17 21:37:40 <warddr>	:D
  98 fév 17 21:38:03 <woutervddn>	:p lol
  99 fév 17 21:38:24 <jean7491>	1 week for production and delivery ? seems short !
 100 fév 17 21:38:29 <woutervddn>	well my guess is that the 26th is going to be short
 101 fév 17 21:38:32 <woutervddn>	lol indeed..
 102 fév 17 21:38:52 <woutervddn>	I can try but that means ordering tomorrow I guess.. :s
 103 fév 17 21:38:58 <JanC>	if they have no backlog, production and delivery could be done in 2-3 days  ;)
 104 fév 17 21:39:32 <woutervddn>	last time they were printed in 1 day.. delivery took about 6 days (including weekend)
 105 fév 17 21:39:34 <JanC>	but yeah, 1 week would be more conservative
 106 fév 17 21:40:15 <JanC>	woutervddn: I'm pretty sure delivery by the parcel service only took 1 or at max. 2 days  ;)
 107 fév 17 21:40:35 <jean7491>	again, you cann't decide as the local leader has no choice ! imho he has first to agree !
 108 fév 17 21:41:08 <JanC>	well, it would be Nero's choice maybe
 109 fév 17 21:42:10 <jean7491>	maybe, but he is not in charge of organizing team and booth in a'pen
 110 fév 17 21:43:09 *	padv est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
 111 fév 17 21:43:40 <jean7491>	nero can be in charge of 20 t-shirts, imho it is enough for a'pen
 112 fév 17 21:44:42 <JanC>	the problem is we're out of most sizes
 113 fév 17 21:44:49 <JanC>	well, half of the sizes
 114 fév 17 21:44:59 <JanC>	and only 1 for several other sizes
 115 fév 17 21:46:53 <JanC>	anyway, in case Nero agrees *and* they can be delivered before H&C days, they can go to Nero, otherwise they can go directly to Wouter
 116 fév 17 21:47:27 <jean7491>	ok for me, if nero agrees
 117 fév 17 21:47:48 <jean7491>	other comment for a'pen ?
 118 fév 17 21:49:16 <jean7491>	if none, item #3 digital week 2011, (28/02-04/03/2011) 
 119 fév 17 21:49:27 <jean7491>	no new information,    already scheduled on 03/03/2011 in the public library – Ostend
 120 fév 17 21:49:40 <JanC>	I will ask in my mail to Nero (I'm working on that currently)
 121 fév 17 21:49:41 <jean7491>	and on 26/02 in Niel : see http://www.digitaleweek.be/activiteiten-2011/infodag-computerclub-monitor-niel-vzw
 122 fév 17 21:49:53 <jean7491>	ok JanC
 123 fév 17 21:50:14 <jean7491>	other comment about digital week ?
 124 fév 17 21:51:08 <jean7491>	if no, Item #4 dipro fair brugge – 13/03/2011
 125 fév 17 21:51:21 <jean7491>	volunteers, please add your names in the wiki ...
 126 fév 17 21:51:29 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Brugge_2011-03-13
 127 fév 17 21:52:21 <jean7491>	next ...
 128 fév 17 21:52:29 <jean7491>	item #5 dipro charleroi – 20/03/2011
 129 fév 17 21:52:58 <jean7491>	again, volunteers, please add your names in the wiki
 130 fév 17 21:52:58 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Charleroi_2011-03-20
 131 fév 17 21:53:18 <jean7491>	other comment about events ?
 132 fév 17 21:54:17 <acraens>	i found following link about the digital week and ubuntu  -  http://digitaleweek.schoten.be/node/2
 133 fév 17 21:55:27 <acraens>	is this organised with the support of u-be?
 134 fév 17 21:55:59 <JanC>	not officially (yet) AFAIK
 135 fév 17 21:56:48 <JanC>	we certainly want to put it on our event calendar though  ☺
 136 fév 17 21:56:58 <JanC>	(if it's not there yet)
 137 fév 17 21:57:29 <jean7491>	not included in digitaleweek.be, do not know why ?
 138 fév 17 22:01:12 <acraens>	het is georganiseerd via de cultuurdienst van Schoten
 139 fév 17 22:01:37 <jean7491>	btw on the site i see not date ?
 140 fév 17 22:01:43 <woutervddn>	it is on the digitaleweek.be website: http://digitaleweek.be/activiteiten-2011/vrije-software-dag
 141 fév 17 22:02:37 <jean7491>	idd
 142 fév 17 22:03:14 <jean7491>	probably since yesterday on the site
 143 fév 17 22:03:33 <jean7491>	we continue with next topic # 2. Promotion
 144 fév 17 22:03:41 <jean7491>	item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be :
 145 fév 17 22:03:51 <jean7491>	we already spoke about, other comment ?
 146 fév 17 22:04:06 <woutervddn>	I ordered some bubble envelopes to send them in..
 147 fév 17 22:04:12 <woutervddn>	they arrived today :)
 148 fév 17 22:04:28 <jean7491>	ok
 149 fév 17 22:05:07 <woutervddn>	not much else.. I guess..
 150 fév 17 22:05:52 <jean7491>	Item #2  Other goodies (mugs, bags, pens, ... ) ? 
 151 fév 17 22:06:08 *	woutervddn wants some!
 152 fév 17 22:06:16 <warddr>	I sent some prices for pens, mugs and bags to the mailinglist
 153 fév 17 22:06:26 <jean7491>	it is a suggestion in the ml  --  do we need to buy other goodies?
 154 fév 17 22:07:00 <jean7491>	But don't forget the implications (additional workload for volunteers, logistical problems, ...) 
 155 fév 17 22:07:04 <warddr>	jean7491, reactions at the mailinglist are very postive
 156 fév 17 22:07:54 <jean7491>	other comment ?
 157 fév 17 22:07:55 <woutervddn>	I was surprised that the ML responded so well on this idea..
 158 fév 17 22:08:22 <jean7491>	idd, and who will lead the project ?
 159 fév 17 22:08:40 <warddr>	I can lead it, I promise I will make more time for it than for the t-shirts
 160 fév 17 22:08:42 <woutervddn>	and personally I'd like to see how well the shipment of the shirts turns out, that might be a guidance
 161 fév 17 22:08:49 *	jimbauwens (~jim@d51538A12.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 162 fév 17 22:09:01 <woutervddn>	I'm willing to help warddr if he likes having some help
 163 fév 17 22:09:04 <jimbauwens>	Sorry for being late!
 164 fév 17 22:09:10 <warddr>	woutervddn, cool :D
 165 fév 17 22:09:27 <jean7491>	hello jimbauwens 
 166 fév 17 22:09:36 <jimbauwens>	Hi :)
 167 fév 17 22:10:04 <woutervddn>	o/
 168 fév 17 22:10:30 <woutervddn>	jimbauwens: I'm glad it's not me who's late :p ;-)
 169 fév 17 22:10:52 <jimbauwens>	What important stuff did I miss?
 170 fév 17 22:10:53 <jimbauwens>	:)
 171 fév 17 22:11:25 <warddr>	The past and future events, jimbauwens
 172 fév 17 22:11:35 <warddr>	we are now talking about promotion
 173 fév 17 22:11:58 <jimbauwens>	ok, I'll be able to catch that up in the mailing list :)
 174 fév 17 22:12:47 <jean7491>	for you, the item is Item #2  Other goodies (mugs, bags, pens, ... ) ? 
 175 fév 17 22:12:47 <jean7491>	do we need to buy other goodies? But don't forget the implications (additional workload for volunteers, logistical problems, ...) 
 176 fév 17 22:13:16 <jean7491>	warddr is willing to lead the project ...
 177 fév 17 22:13:33 <warddr>	I already started looking for the best prices, I sent some to the mailinglist
 178 fév 17 22:16:36 <jean7491>	i'll add a wiki page, ...
 179 fév 17 22:17:03 <warddr>	Ok, I'll keep it updated
 180 fév 17 22:17:07 <woutervddn>	^ that might be handy
 181 fév 17 22:17:11 <warddr>	if you send me the link
 182 fév 17 22:19:55 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
 183 fév 17 22:20:19 <jean7491>	we continue Item #3 promotion material for fairs/events :
 184 fév 17 22:20:27 <jean7491>	first proposal: flyers 2011 - please look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011
 185 fév 17 22:20:49 <jean7491>	and add your proposals/comments (if any !!!)  in the mailing list and in the wiki page
 186 fév 17 22:21:09 <jean7491>	comment ?
 187 fév 17 22:21:45 <woutervddn>	I allready said it about the banners but I'll say it again: it's important that you express your meaning regarding stuff like this
 188 fév 17 22:22:13 <jean7491>	+1
 189 fév 17 22:22:18 <woutervddn>	We'll be making a ton of the flyers we choose, having one you don't like means that you have to hand 'ugly' ones out for years
 190 fév 17 22:22:39 <jean7491>	+2
 191 fév 17 22:22:53 *	woutervddn goes for 5 :D
 192 fév 17 22:23:16 <jean7491>	hoping new comments !
 193 fév 17 22:23:17 <warddr>	than you have to make up 3 more interesting things :D
 194 fév 17 22:23:48 <jean7491>	just do it !
 195 fév 17 22:23:59 <jean7491>	second proposal: rollups 2011 - first proposals are in the wiki page
 196 fév 17 22:24:11 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
 197 fév 17 22:24:31 <jean7491>	question was : does canonical have rollups available for loco teams? JanC is directing the question to the loco-council
 198 fév 17 22:25:04 <jean7491>	next meeting on 15/03, i think
 199 fév 17 22:25:16 <jean7491>	other comment ?
 200 fév 17 22:25:24 <woutervddn>	jean7491: when are we planning to buy one?
 201 fév 17 22:25:28 <woutervddn>	I'm making my own proposal, but my first 2 attempts didn't work out as I wanted (they sucked..)
 202 fév 17 22:26:25 <jean7491>	it is up to you, and the finances? 
 203 fév 17 22:27:01 <JanC>	loco-council meetings are second Tuesday of every month IIRC
 204 fév 17 22:28:56 <JanC>	that would be March 8th
 205 fév 17 22:29:29 <jean7491>	ok, i though 3d tuesday! @ wouter: i don't expect a fast answer from canonical, about timing, if we decide to buy it, first a good design, and then see if we have money and what we wish to buy: 2 or 3 monts?
 206 fév 17 22:29:34 <JanC>	and I'm not only asking about rollups but also other stuff
 207 fév 17 22:30:25 <JanC>	jean7491: you are right, it's 3rd Tuesday, so 15/3
 208 fév 17 22:30:47 <jean7491>	imho, we can go on with looking for good design, no cost, during the study !
 209 fév 17 22:30:55 <JanC>	right  ☺
 210 fév 17 22:31:32 <woutervddn>	if it's € 60 or more it better be a good design.. Making new ones each year would be expensive I guess..
 211 fév 17 22:32:11 <jean7491>	example of questions for the design: design international, national, or 1 language ? ...
 212 fév 17 22:33:19 <jean7491>	possibility of collaboration with other loco team? is there a difference in price /piece for 2 or 10 ? worthy ?
 213 fév 17 22:33:44 *	acraens est parti (Quit: Page closed)
 214 fév 17 22:34:03 <woutervddn>	if we're not getting them from Canonical (and we'd do it without another loco team) I'd say make them national but in 1 language..
 215 fév 17 22:34:26 <woutervddn>	(that's my point of view though..)
 216 fév 17 22:34:46 <jean7491>	possibility of sponsors ?
 217 fév 17 22:35:48 <jean7491>	a lot of questions ... to be followed !
 218 fév 17 22:36:14 <jean7491>	other comment about promotion ?
 219 fév 17 22:36:33 <warddr>	I found some prices for a 85x200 roll-up (as example), price goos down if we order more:
 220 fév 17 22:36:33 <warddr>	1-3 units – €99
 221 fév 17 22:36:33 <warddr>	4-7 units – €79
 222 fév 17 22:36:33 <warddr>	8-11 units – €69
 223 fév 17 22:36:33 <warddr>	12+ units – €59
 224 fév 17 22:36:44 <warddr>	designs can be diffirent dat this website
 225 fév 17 22:37:05 <JanC>	if we work together with other locoteams, maybe we can get 12+
 226 fév 17 22:37:28 <warddr>	24+ units – €49
 227 fév 17 22:37:29 <warddr>	48+ units – €44
 228 fév 17 22:37:34 <warddr>	maybe :D
 229 fév 17 22:37:41 <woutervddn>	U-nl allready has some (apparently) so question is if they'd want to pay for extra..
 230 fév 17 22:37:46 <JanC>	e.g. if we order them before FOSDEM or UDS or such...
 231 fév 17 22:37:55 <JanC>	it's 50% less!
 232 fév 17 22:38:19 <jean7491>	if design is international !
 233 fév 17 22:38:34 <warddr>	at this website all designs can be diffirect
 234 fév 17 22:38:43 <jean7491>	when uds and where ?
 235 fév 17 22:39:00 <jean7491>	@warddr which site ?
 236 fév 17 22:39:21 <woutervddn>	There are two example rollup banners in the branding guidelines introduction at page 23
 237 fév 17 22:39:29 <warddr>	http://nl.rollup4pop.com/
 238 fév 17 22:39:39 <JanC>	next UDS is in May in Budapest, the one after that is in November in Orlando, Florida IIRC  ;)
 239 fév 17 22:39:58 <jean7491>	ok, i'll check the site
 240 fév 17 22:39:59 <woutervddn>	xD not exactly near :p
 241 fév 17 22:40:58 <jean7491>	i suggest we continue with the promo material at next meeting !?
 242 fév 17 22:41:22 <woutervddn>	good idea.. maybe add these questions to the wiki..
 243 fév 17 22:42:24 <jean7491>	i wonder if anyone should sponsor such rollups (with name of the firma on the rollup ?
 244 fév 17 22:43:19 <jean7491>	perhaps i already dream ?
 245 fév 17 22:43:35 <JanC>	not sure if sponsor name on something like that is a good idea (but I'd have to think about it)
 246 fév 17 22:43:45 <woutervddn>	It is possible.. just find a firm that understands the value of Open-Source..
 247 fév 17 22:43:54 <JanC>	I'd rather get flyers from the sponsor or something like that
 248 fév 17 22:44:12 <woutervddn>	janC: I guess some small reference is good for me, but it still has to be an Ubuntu banner :p
 249 fév 17 22:44:51 <JanC>	like we get the flyers from Guy
 250 fév 17 22:44:52 <jean7491>	perhaps i'll add a design with place for sponsor's logos
 251 fév 17 22:45:13 <jean7491>	which flyers ?
 252 fév 17 22:45:31 <JanC>	the penguin-shaped ones for his multi-seats?
 253 fév 17 22:45:42 <jean7491>	ok
 254 fév 17 22:46:10 <JanC>	I'd be happy to have flyers like that from other companies too...  ;)
 255 fév 17 22:46:47 <jean7491>	i propose we continue with topic # 3. update wiki and  web-site
 256 fév 17 22:46:51 <JanC>	it also shows visitors that Ubuntu has local commercial support
 257 fév 17 22:47:40 *	streep (~streep@188.188.98.229) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 258 fév 17 22:47:44 <jean7491>	tux-pics are fun for kids, it's true !
 259 fév 17 22:48:01 <warddr>	not only for kids..
 260 fév 17 22:48:32 <jean7491>	ok, now wiki !
 261 fév 17 22:48:53 <jean7491>	what about the meeting on last tuesday evening ? 
 262 fév 17 22:49:12 <woutervddn>	well mongolito404 and I started with going true the whole wiki first..
 263 fév 17 22:49:56 <woutervddn>	We decided to make a BelgianTeam/Legacy page for all the content from before 2010
 264 fév 17 22:50:19 <woutervddn>	I still have to add the links though (the wiki didn't take them automatically)
 265 fév 17 22:50:28 <jean7491>	btw can you explain me the aim of a legacy page?  
 266 fév 17 22:50:37 <woutervddn>	we also made a list of the changes we made
 267 fév 17 22:50:52 *	streep est parti (Client Quit)
 268 fév 17 22:51:17 <JanC>	maybe legacy to not have to throw things away (yet)?
 269 fév 17 22:51:41 <woutervddn>	well the legacy page is a way to structure everything done by U-be. It can be handy as 'historical' content.
 270 fév 17 22:51:59 <jean7491>	we already have weekly and monthly reports, agenda, reapproval applications !
 271 fév 17 22:52:11 <woutervddn>	Maybe when someone ever things about doing some actions at railway stations we can say: 'hey the legacy page has a link to a similar action'
 272 fév 17 22:52:55 <jean7491>	i read an example : (2009/03/13-14) WEXS - Talk about the use of Ubuntu and Edubuntu in a class enviroment :
 273 fév 17 22:53:01 <woutervddn>	true, but as I see it it's a way to keep track of the pages and not 'lose' them in the amount
 274 fév 17 22:53:40 <jean7491>	the example i mention is an invitation, afaik nobody went 
 275 fév 17 22:53:44 <woutervddn>	an overview of what we've done is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/FebruaryWikiCleanup
 276 fév 17 22:54:20 <woutervddn>	well content like that can go, but we didn't want to delete a quarter of the wiki :)
 277 fév 17 22:54:46 <woutervddn>	some of those are really valuable, and we should keep those, others surely can go :)
 278 fév 17 22:55:03 <jean7491>	btw it is why adding reports for all activities are important !
 279 fév 17 22:55:31 <woutervddn>	btw: I need to update the FebruaryWikiCleanup page after I've changed some other things
 280 fév 17 22:57:23 <woutervddn>	All in all I can say that there isn't that much work on the wiki (surprisingly)
 281 fév 17 22:57:55 <woutervddn>	I guess that if we'd have a few people who work on this it can be all updated in a half day.. :)
 282 fév 17 22:58:13 <jean7491>	ok, nest step ?
 283 fév 17 22:58:20 <jean7491>	next step ?
 284 fév 17 22:59:11 <JanC>	woutervddn: maybe djim-fey, lofty40 & others can help with that?  ;)
 285 fév 17 22:59:14 <woutervddn>	next step is to update the feb.wikicleanup page. I'll do that tomorrow and then we'll have an up to date to do list
 286 fév 17 22:59:49 <woutervddn>	indeed =p but I believe it helps if we had some veterans among us :p
 287 fév 17 22:59:56 <JanC>	(trying to get new peopel involved :P )
 288 fév 17 23:00:30 <woutervddn>	I'm only here since november and half of the time I need to read the whole page and even then I'm not always sure what it's about..
 289 fév 17 23:00:52 *	jimbauwens est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
 290 fév 17 23:00:53 <woutervddn>	But I'll keep you all updated via the ML
 291 fév 17 23:01:33 <JanC>	woutervddn: you can always try to ping somebody who has been around longer (maybe also look at who edited the page)
 292 fév 17 23:01:54 <JanC>	you can see teh whole editing history of every page after all
 293 fév 17 23:02:14 <woutervddn>	indeed..
 294 fév 17 23:02:52 <woutervddn>	pierre and I both had some pages of which we thought that they should be maintained better..
 295 fév 17 23:02:59 <jean7491>	ok, i'm not allways available, although i wrote a lot of additions in the wiki !
 296 fév 17 23:03:35 <woutervddn>	lik the BelgianTeam/OsLessLaptopShops  for instance.. it would be awesome to see a big list of shops that is up to date.
 297 fév 17 23:04:04 <woutervddn>	jean7491: After taking a look at the content I think you wrote about 50% of the wiki :p
 298 fév 17 23:04:16 <woutervddn>	(reports are the main reason for that though :p)
 299 fév 17 23:04:23 <jean7491>	i found it "par hasard" and moved it up
 300 fév 17 23:04:41 <jean7491>	it = OsLessLaptopShops 
 301 fév 17 23:05:09 <woutervddn>	we might put that page inside ubuntu-be.org website :)
 302 fév 17 23:05:59 <jean7491>	since 2 years i wrote all reports + logs of the meetings + events ..., a lot
 303 fév 17 23:06:24 <jean7491>	about web-site: i've 3 points
 304 fév 17 23:06:43 <jean7491>	a contact-form is included in the web-site, as a way to contact ubuntu-be (not for technical support) ,  see ”contact us” on the website.  the questions are forwarded to the contact-group or to the press contacts, according the category of the request.
 305 fév 17 23:07:30 <jean7491>	Remark: the contact-group (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Commercial_links) will act as coordination-team.  A task description will be worked on and added in the wiki, when agreed.
 306 fév 17 23:07:57 <jean7491>	second point : about the new contact-form page – I suggest to add the irc channel (or chat) as a possibility to contact ubuntu-be members (in general) about general questions, coordination and organization of events. 
 307 fév 17 23:08:23 <jean7491>	third point: last week we pointed out that we need a page promoting our actions/events. the aim is to show what we do, hoping that new volunteers will join. are there new proposals?
 308 fév 17 23:08:46 <jean7491>	your comments ?
 309 fév 17 23:09:39 <warddr>	I think a separeted irc-channel isn't needed
 310 fév 17 23:09:40 <woutervddn>	about the 3rd point: I'll be starting one when I find the time.. school's taking a lot of time atm..
 311 fév 17 23:10:05 <woutervddn>	warddr: I think jean means putting a link to the irc chat on the contact-us form
 312 fév 17 23:10:37 <jean7491>	@warddr : i don't speak about an additional channel, just a mention about irc in the "contact-form"
 313 fév 17 23:10:55 <warddr>	I'm getting a litle tired I think :D
 314 fév 17 23:10:59 <woutervddn>	:p
 315 fév 17 23:11:03 <jean7491>	lol
 316 fév 17 23:11:24 <jean7491>	other comment about website ?
 317 fév 17 23:11:26 <woutervddn>	jean, I guess you'll have to ask pierre about the irc link
 318 fév 17 23:11:53 <jean7491>	i'll write a bug report, later ..
 319 fév 17 23:11:56 <woutervddn>	I believe he's the only one who can change that as it isn't a real page (or maybe other web-editors can, I seem to be a problem for drupal)
 320 fév 17 23:12:19 <woutervddn>	(read as: drupal doesn't give me all the rights it should..)
 321 fév 17 23:12:34 <warddr>	I hope they can immediately fix the share-button as well
 322 fév 17 23:12:59 <jean7491>	i'll make the suggestion, for the realisation, it is up to who knows about !
 323 fév 17 23:13:05 <woutervddn>	thx for finding that mistake ward.. I didn't see it..
 324 fév 17 23:13:27 <jean7491>	next topic # 4. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ?
 325 fév 17 23:13:41 <jean7491>	i've nothing to add !
 326 fév 17 23:13:50 <jean7491>	your input ?
 327 fév 17 23:14:45 <jean7491>	are there other questions not in the agenda ? (except next meeting)
 328 fév 17 23:15:24 <jean7491>	if no question, ... last topic, next irc meeting ? on thursday 24/02/2011 at 21 h.
 329 fév 17 23:16:12 <woutervddn>	sound okay for me ^^
 330 fév 17 23:16:17 <warddr>	ok for me
 331 fév 17 23:16:57 <jean7491>	JanC ?
 332 fév 17 23:17:38 <JanC>	date okay for me
 333 fév 17 23:17:47 <jean7491>	end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !

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