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   1 mar 31 21:01:25 <jean7491>	hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   2 mar 31 21:01:57 <woutervddn>	I am :)
   3 mar 31 21:02:09 <massimo21>	i have night shift so i will not stay for long
   4 mar 31 21:02:09 <clamam>	Hello to all
   5 mar 31 21:02:10 <woutervddn>	good evening jean o/
   6 mar 31 21:02:22 <woutervddn>	hi massimo and clamam :)
   7 mar 31 21:02:31 <massimo21>	hi
   8 mar 31 21:02:35 <JanC>	I'm around, but probably won't be all the time  ☺
   9 mar 31 21:03:06 <JanC>	the CDs, lanyards, case badges, pins are on their way BTW
  10 mar 31 21:03:38 <clamam>	thank you JanC
  11 mar 31 21:03:47 <jean7491>	hi woutervddn clamam massimo21  JanC !
  12 mar 31 21:07:20 <woutervddn>	:)
  13 mar 31 21:09:36 <jean7491>	we start in 5 minutes
  14 mar 31 21:11:22 *	Bjorn_ (4e17910e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.23.145.14) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  15 mar 31 21:13:52 <jean7491>	hello Bjorn_ are you coming for our weekly meeting ?
  16 mar 31 21:14:13 <Bjorn_>	yes
  17 mar 31 21:14:28 <jean7491>	tks, welcome !
  18 mar 31 21:14:36 <woutervddn>	good evening Bjorn
  19 mar 31 21:14:59 <Bjorn_>	good evening to you all :)
  20 mar 31 21:15:07 <sylvaintechnic>	good evening
  21 mar 31 21:15:25 <jean7491>	hi sylvaintechnic
  22 mar 31 21:15:36 <woutervddn>	o/
  23 mar 31 21:15:53 <jean7491>	we start with topic #1 events
  24 mar 31 21:16:09 <jean7491>	 item #1 dipro fair mechelen – 27/03/2011 
  25 mar 31 21:16:53 <jean7491>	unfortunately, i've no feedback about the fair !
  26 mar 31 21:17:12 <jean7491>	no info from nero or jurgen
  27 mar 31 21:17:38 <jean7491>	likely next week !
  28 mar 31 21:17:45 <woutervddn>	hmm.. indeed :)
  29 mar 31 21:17:45 <jean7491>	 item #2  dipro fair genk – 03/04/2011
  30 mar 31 21:18:04 <jean7491>	 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Genk_2011-04-03 
  31 mar 31 21:18:04 <massimo21>	sorry, have to go to work
  32 mar 31 21:18:17 *	massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.163.133) a quitté #ubuntu-be
  33 mar 31 21:18:21 <jean7491>	bye massimo21 !
  34 mar 31 21:18:44 <jean7491>	i suppose everything is ok ?
  35 mar 31 21:19:10 <woutervddn>	afaik yes :)
  36 mar 31 21:19:20 <clamam>	Yes, everything is ok
  37 mar 31 21:19:42 <jean7491>	ok, any comment ?
  38 mar 31 21:19:45 <woutervddn>	thijs will pick me up in Kermt, so I'll be able to get there at 9 :)
  39 mar 31 21:20:02 <clamam>	ok
  40 mar 31 21:20:18 <jean7491>	next item #3 The Foire du Libre – Louvain-la-Neuve - 06/04/2011 
  41 mar 31 21:20:26 <clamam>	so, we can build the stand with 4 volunteers
  42 mar 31 21:20:47 <jean7491>	 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/FoireDuLibre-LLN-2011-04-06 (coordination: adrien)
  43 mar 31 21:21:38 <sylvaintechnic>	Adrien come ;)
  44 mar 31 21:21:59 *	RamiAdrien (4e8117ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.129.23.239) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  45 mar 31 21:22:08 <RamiAdrien>	Hi there :)
  46 mar 31 21:22:15 <woutervddn>	o/
  47 mar 31 21:22:24 <jean7491>	hi RamiAdrien
  48 mar 31 21:22:41 <Bjorn_>	good evening RamiAdrien
  49 mar 31 21:22:58 <RamiAdrien>	Good evening :)
  50 mar 31 21:23:24 <jean7491>	comment about the preparation for the Foire du Libre ??
  51 mar 31 21:23:48 <RamiAdrien>	I've juste speak with Sylvain about the volunteer
  52 mar 31 21:24:01 <RamiAdrien>	Lucien told me he will come
  53 mar 31 21:24:13 <RamiAdrien>	I had to contact him to have a confirmation
  54 mar 31 21:25:04 <RamiAdrien>	about stuff Sylvain have all the stuff :)
  55 mar 31 21:25:19 <RamiAdrien>	and about the conference I will do one about Ubuntu
  56 mar 31 21:25:25 <RamiAdrien>	it will be the first conference of the event
  57 mar 31 21:25:59 <jean7491>	nice , enough volunteers ?
  58 mar 31 21:26:36 <RamiAdrien>	I can't say yes now but i will contact a lot of person and I think it will be ok
  59 mar 31 21:27:27 <jean7491>	ok, tell me if you need help (in looking for volunteers) 
  60 mar 31 21:27:52 <jean7491>	other comment ?
  61 mar 31 21:27:54 <RamiAdrien>	ok if necessary I will contact you
  62 mar 31 21:28:07 <RamiAdrien>	if sylvain have to say something? for me it's ok :)
  63 mar 31 21:29:13 <sylvaintechnic>	it's ok for me too
  64 mar 31 21:29:52 <jean7491>	item #4 Dipro fair Ghent - 10/04/2011 
  65 mar 31 21:30:05 <jean7491>	 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-04-10 
  66 mar 31 21:30:57 <jean7491>	we need more volunteers, i think mimor is the first volunteer ...
  67 mar 31 21:31:22 <jean7491>	but we need at least a core-team of 4 volunteers!
  68 mar 31 21:32:04 <jean7491>	mimor ?
  69 mar 31 21:32:12 <Bjorn_>	it's hard for me to get there but i can work something out
  70 mar 31 21:32:39 <Bjorn_>	i can get there arround 12u30
  71 mar 31 21:32:54 <Bjorn_>	for a couple houres
  72 mar 31 21:33:49 <jean7491>	nice, i'll start to look for volunteers tomorrow, and check my lists
  73 mar 31 21:34:32 <jean7491>	JanC ? any idea bout other volunteers ?
  74 mar 31 21:34:44 <JanC>	I will probably be there, at least in the morning
  75 mar 31 21:34:53 <Bjorn_>	i'll let you know if my shedule changes and if i can get there earlier or not...
  76 mar 31 21:34:56 <JanC>	I assume Kenny will come too...
  77 mar 31 21:35:19 <jean7491>	no kenneth wrote he will not be there
  78 mar 31 21:36:26 <jean7491>	i check tomorrow for additional volunteers !
  79 mar 31 21:36:52 <jean7491>	other comment about dipro ghent ?
  80 mar 31 21:37:36 *	EmilyPlays (4e15350b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.21.53.11) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  81 mar 31 21:38:21 <EmilyPlays>	Hello everybody
  82 mar 31 21:38:30 <Bjorn_>	how 'big' is the booth? if i make it i'll be my first time :)
  83 mar 31 21:38:38 <jean7491>	hi EmilyPlays
  84 mar 31 21:38:47 <Bjorn_>	*will
  85 mar 31 21:39:04 <Bjorn_>	good evening EmilyPlays
  86 mar 31 21:39:42 <woutervddn>	EmilyPlays, weren't you from ghent?
  87 mar 31 21:40:10 <JanC>	Bjorn_: depends on how many stands Dipro sells to shops etc., but we have at least 4m
  88 mar 31 21:40:12 <jean7491>	Bjorn , don't worry about the booth (4 or 6 m. length), you will not be alone, and the questions are really basic 
  89 mar 31 21:40:37 <JanC>	we pay for 4m, but often get more  ;)
  90 mar 31 21:40:47 <EmilyPlays>	i'm from Ghent
  91 mar 31 21:41:05 <EmilyPlays>	but i'm not in Belgium @ that time
  92 mar 31 21:41:06 <woutervddn>	and are you available on the 10th of april by any chance? :p
  93 mar 31 21:41:06 <JanC>	EmilyPlays: ah, you're also appointed volunteer then  :P
  94 mar 31 21:41:10 <JanC>	ow
  95 mar 31 21:41:21 <EmilyPlays>	yes, i really wanted to do it
  96 mar 31 21:41:27 <woutervddn>	ARGH D:
  97 mar 31 21:41:41 <woutervddn>	why is everyone on vacation then..
  98 mar 31 21:41:46 <JanC>	EmilyPlays: do you know any Ubuntu users that might want to help?
  99 mar 31 21:42:22 <EmilyPlays>	janc, i'm not really involved in the community right now actually
 100 mar 31 21:42:24 <EmilyPlays>	so no
 101 mar 31 21:42:56 <jean7491>	other comment about dipro ghent ?
 102 mar 31 21:43:01 <Bjorn_>	JanC: nice... looking forward to it...
 103 mar 31 21:43:42 <jean7491>	next ... item #5   rewics (Rencontres Wallonnes de l'Internet Citoyen) charleroi  - 04/05/2011
 104 mar 31 21:43:51 <jean7491>	    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/Rewics-2011-05-04  (coordination: adrien)
 105 mar 31 21:44:25 <jean7491>	preparation is going on, with collaboration of local lugs and others
 106 mar 31 21:44:56 <jean7491>	RamiAdrien comment ?
 107 mar 31 21:45:14 <RamiAdrien>	It's going well
 108 mar 31 21:45:20 <RamiAdrien>	i send the subject for the conference
 109 mar 31 21:45:24 <RamiAdrien>	the stand are confirmed
 110 mar 31 21:45:46 <RamiAdrien>	I had to contact for volunteer but it will be ok
 111 mar 31 21:46:30 <RamiAdrien>	And we do like the Dipro
 112 mar 31 21:46:35 <RamiAdrien>	Big stand for free software
 113 mar 31 21:46:47 <RamiAdrien>	With Mozilla, FSFE, Educoo and of course Ubuntu
 114 mar 31 21:46:57 <jean7491>	ok, nice !
 115 mar 31 21:47:22 <RamiAdrien>	(Of course I forgot to say that's it's the same for Foire du Libre)
 116 mar 31 21:47:23 <woutervddn>	I send 12 extra shirts to sylvaintechnic for rewics
 117 mar 31 21:47:29 <RamiAdrien>	Great :)
 118 mar 31 21:48:02 <woutervddn>	5x XL   5x XXL    2x S   :)
 119 mar 31 21:48:29 <RamiAdrien>	Oh XXL you think about me :)
 120 mar 31 21:48:30 <RamiAdrien>	:p
 121 mar 31 21:49:05 <jean7491>	ok, item #6 last event - dipro fair antwerp – 08/05/2011 – planning started
 122 mar 31 21:49:07 <woutervddn>	xD
 123 mar 31 21:49:25 <jean7491>	other comment about events ?
 124 mar 31 21:50:06 <jean7491>	next topic # 2. Promotion
 125 mar 31 21:50:11 <RamiAdrien>	Yes
 126 mar 31 21:50:16 <RamiAdrien>	just one small comments
 127 mar 31 21:50:27 <jean7491>	ok
 128 mar 31 21:50:29 <RamiAdrien>	we will do a small event in a school at Ecaussinnes
 129 mar 31 21:50:32 <JanC>	mentioning Educoo reminds me: there was a question about using Ubuntu in schools in Wallonia on contact@, I guess Sylvain can maybe help answer that?
 130 mar 31 21:51:13 <jean7491>	yes, i will answer and forward to sylvain
 131 mar 31 21:51:39 <JanC>	"Écaussines" somehow makes me think about "beer"...  :P
 132 mar 31 21:51:50 <RamiAdrien>	^^
 133 mar 31 21:51:52 <woutervddn>	^what?
 134 mar 31 21:51:54 <sylvaintechnic>	and i answer too and forward to Jean ;)
 135 mar 31 21:52:14 <JanC>	see: http://www.brasserieecaussinnes.be/  :P
 136 mar 31 21:52:41 <RamiAdrien>	Good idea for the student :p
 137 mar 31 21:52:50 <JanC>	they have good beers there  ;)
 138 mar 31 21:53:02 <RamiAdrien>	:)
 139 mar 31 21:53:26 <RamiAdrien>	For the event we will do small presentation and we will sell stuff
 140 mar 31 21:53:30 <jean7491>	RamiAdrien you can add it to the agenda and mention in the mailing list
 141 mar 31 21:53:42 <woutervddn>	I see now :O
 142 mar 31 21:53:58 <RamiAdrien>	jean7491: okay i do that after this meeting
 143 mar 31 21:54:20 <sylvaintechnic>	jean7491:  for my response, it's in french ;)
 144 mar 31 21:54:43 <jean7491>	oui
 145 mar 31 21:55:16 <jean7491>	we continue next topic # 2. Promotion item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : update by wouter 
 146 mar 31 21:55:36 <jean7491>	woutervddn ?
 147 mar 31 21:57:39 <woutervddn>	the shirts are all shipped..
 148 mar 31 21:57:59 <woutervddn>	(with the exeption of some who didn't pay yet.. I emailed them to ask if they still want one..)
 149 mar 31 21:58:14 <jean7491>	ok
 150 mar 31 21:58:28 <woutervddn>	Also I'll put the link back up this weekend.. so people can order again :) :)
 151 mar 31 21:59:48 <jean7491>	ok, other comment ?
 152 mar 31 22:00:06 <woutervddn>	not really :)
 153 mar 31 22:00:24 <jean7491>	ok   item #2 promotion material for fairs/events - flyers 2011 
 154 mar 31 22:00:36 <jean7491>	 1 new design,    please look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011
 155 mar 31 22:00:52 <jean7491>	 since 2 months, a limited number of active members are improving the project, mainly through irc contacts, and everyone had the opportunity to contribute to the project
 156 mar 31 22:01:21 <jean7491>	 imho, my preference is the last proposal (massimiliano v3 (24/03/2011) – nl) … but are there other preferences ? do we need a poll ? 
 157 mar 31 22:02:29 <woutervddn>	I like the third one very much :)
 158 mar 31 22:03:20 <woutervddn>	but I supose a poll wouldn't harm..
 159 mar 31 22:03:56 <sylvaintechnic>	i like the Massimiliano V3 (in french after traduction ;) )
 160 mar 31 22:05:08 <woutervddn>	yeah... I wouldn't mind to translate to english
 161 mar 31 22:05:28 <woutervddn>	but to keep translations correct I'll leave french up to someone else :p
 162 mar 31 22:05:50 <woutervddn>	btw: do we translate to german?
 163 mar 31 22:06:00 <jean7491>	a poll wouldn't harm: does the vote of less interested  people help us to decide ? 
 164 mar 31 22:06:22 <sylvaintechnic>	if in english , i can try to traduct in french ;)
 165 mar 31 22:08:28 <clamam>	Jean7491: you can not please everyone, just take notice of the people that are active on this subject
 166 mar 31 22:09:16 <jean7491>	there are 4 propositions: v1, v2, v3 and v4 , just a few differences between v3 and v4 ...
 167 mar 31 22:09:30 <EmilyPlays>	v4 is better
 168 mar 31 22:09:38 <EmilyPlays>	imo
 169 mar 31 22:09:40 <jean7491>	what is your opinion ?
 170 mar 31 22:11:35 *	woutervddn est parti (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
 171 mar 31 22:11:40 <clamam>	i like v3
 172 mar 31 22:12:01 <jean7491>	v1:  -v2:   -v3:+1 Clamam   -v4: +2 EmilyPlays+jean7491
 173 mar 31 22:12:17 <jean7491>	other opinion ?
 174 mar 31 22:12:48 <jean7491>	btw only dutch edition for the moment
 175 mar 31 22:12:56 <RamiAdrien>	V3 for me
 176 mar 31 22:14:17 *	woutervddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 177 mar 31 22:14:30 <jean7491>	RamiAdrien sylvaintechnic : if a fr edition, has no link with the dutch edition !
 178 mar 31 22:15:17 <jean7491>	or you wish dutch flyers (why not !)
 179 mar 31 22:15:37 <jean7491>	 v1:  -v2:   -v3:+1 Clamam   -v4: +2 EmilyPlays+jean7491 - other opinions ?
 180 mar 31 22:16:00 <jean7491>	woutervddn ?
 181 mar 31 22:16:08 <woutervddn>	v4?
 182 mar 31 22:16:59 <jean7491>	 v1:  -v2:   -v3:+1 Clamam   -v4: +3 EmilyPlays+jean7491+woutervddn
 183 mar 31 22:17:04 <jean7491>	JanC ?
 184 mar 31 22:17:10 <woutervddn>	^I meant I don't see a v
 185 mar 31 22:17:13 <woutervddn>	*v4 :p
 186 mar 31 22:17:57 <clamam>	my vote goes to the last one that says massimiliano V3
 187 mar 31 22:18:23 <woutervddn>	my vote goes to the last one aswel :)
 188 mar 31 22:18:26 <jean7491>	there are 4 different the last one is v4
 189 mar 31 22:18:46 <JanC>	the last one is named v3 though  ;)
 190 mar 31 22:19:02 <EmilyPlays>	exept one comment, remove the ' Dus....'
 191 mar 31 22:19:11 <JanC>	lats one is okay for me too BTW
 192 mar 31 22:19:17 <woutervddn>	ow, so I guess the vote is unanimous then..
 193 mar 31 22:19:29 <EmilyPlays>	:)
 194 mar 31 22:19:42 <clamam>	i have got a sms from Massimo21 and he votes for the last one, Massimilian V3
 195 mar 31 22:20:13 <JanC>	EmilyPlays: yes, removing the "Dus..." is probably better
 196 mar 31 22:20:40 <EmilyPlays>	so v4 without the dus...
 197 mar 31 22:20:49 <jean7491>	 v1:  -v2:   -v3:   -v4: +6 EmilyPlays+jean7491+woutervddn+Clamam+JanC+massimiliano 
 198 mar 31 22:21:01 <jean7491>	and without Dus
 199 mar 31 22:21:06 <woutervddn>	xD I guess we don't need a poll then :p
 200 mar 31 22:21:10 <woutervddn>	*than
 201 mar 31 22:21:35 <woutervddn>	^ linguistic malfunction, should it be then or than?
 202 mar 31 22:22:02 <jean7491>	Bjorn_ what is your opinion ?
 203 mar 31 22:22:24 <JanC>	oh, and "Ubuntu logo and Canonical zijn geregistreerde handelsmerken ..." --> Canonical wordt niet genoemd, dus moet ook niet vermeld daar onderaan
 204 mar 31 22:25:04 <jean7491>	 "Ubuntu logo is  geregistreerde handelsmerk ...Canonical !
 205 mar 31 22:26:10 <woutervddn>	alle andere handelsmerken can be removed as well.. only ubuntu is mentioned :)
 206 mar 31 22:26:15 <sylvaintechnic>	i go. Good Night
 207 mar 31 22:26:25 <woutervddn>	gn o/
 208 mar 31 22:26:29 *	sylvaintechnic (~sylvainte@176.195-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 209 mar 31 22:26:33 <jean7491>	ok, we will ask massimo to modify the project
 210 mar 31 22:26:40 <jean7491>	bye sylvain
 211 mar 31 22:27:01 <woutervddn>	I was going to say, maybe add "don't trow on public roads" but someone already added that :p
 212 mar 31 22:27:21 <jean7491>	but in dutch !
 213 mar 31 22:27:37 <Bjorn_>	srr for late response, my opnion is V4 also better without 'Dus...'
 214 mar 31 22:27:56 <jean7491>	ok, thx !
 215 mar 31 22:28:47 <jean7491>	we continue with the rollups
 216 mar 31 22:28:53 <jean7491>	item #3 promotion material for fairs/events - rollups
 217 mar 31 22:29:05 <jean7491>	roposals are in the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
 218 mar 31 22:29:21 <jean7491>	proposals
 219 mar 31 22:30:33 <RamiAdrien>	Just one proposal about the ling between free software community
 220 mar 31 22:31:02 <RamiAdrien>	sorry i don't see the the item for after that so
 221 mar 31 22:31:54 <jean7491>	wadrien, wait, .... rollups :  there are many ideas, imho we can continue to check for a better design (and eliminate the less good ones
 222 mar 31 22:32:43 <jean7491>	other comment about rollups ?
 223 mar 31 22:33:06 <woutervddn>	well, I'm not convinced with the two shades of orange..
 224 mar 31 22:33:20 <RamiAdrien>	I prefered the last one but i think the orange part with small icons it's not necessary
 225 mar 31 22:33:26 <woutervddn>	it feels akward to me..
 226 mar 31 22:33:47 <RamiAdrien>	and maybe using the slogan : "Linux for human being"
 227 mar 31 22:34:24 <woutervddn>	hmm.. I didn't like the idea of text, but that is a slogan I wouldn't mind to see on there..
 228 mar 31 22:34:51 <jean7491>	i suggest you add your comments in the wiki
 229 mar 31 22:35:18 <woutervddn>	I'm going to print it out tomorrow and see what it tells me when on paper :)
 230 mar 31 22:35:30 <RamiAdrien>	okay :)
 231 mar 31 22:35:43 <jean7491>	and perhaps we plan another meeting on the topic rollups
 232 mar 31 22:35:59 <woutervddn>	ok
 233 mar 31 22:36:10 <RamiAdrien>	i will write my comment on the wiki i have few idea
 234 mar 31 22:36:54 <Bjorn_>	i'll wite my comments ont the wiki as well
 235 mar 31 22:36:58 <jean7491>	ok , we come back to adrien : proposal about the ling between free software community
 236 mar 31 22:37:10 <RamiAdrien>	Well :)
 237 mar 31 22:37:26 <jean7491>	is it ling or link ?
 238 mar 31 22:37:32 <RamiAdrien>	link
 239 mar 31 22:37:39 <RamiAdrien>	between the website
 240 mar 31 22:37:49 <RamiAdrien>	I think for example
 241 mar 31 22:37:55 <RamiAdrien>	Mozilla Belgium Community
 242 mar 31 22:37:59 <RamiAdrien>	and some lug
 243 mar 31 22:38:21 <RamiAdrien>	to have more visibility between us
 244 mar 31 22:38:23 <clamam>	i must go now, bye and good night
 245 mar 31 22:38:35 <RamiAdrien>	I work a lot with the lug and the mozilla belgium community
 246 mar 31 22:38:37 <jean7491>	bye clamam
 247 mar 31 22:38:44 *	clamam (~claudio@d54C165E2.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 248 mar 31 22:39:14 <RamiAdrien>	and we speak about create a part to do link for each other
 249 mar 31 22:39:30 <woutervddn>	seems like a good reason to me :)
 250 mar 31 22:40:09 <woutervddn>	linking to and from will gain visitors to our site.. and that's a good thing
 251 mar 31 22:40:46 <jean7491>	good idea, i'll add it in the web-site item of the meeting's report
 252 mar 31 22:41:14 <RamiAdrien>	And something interesting maybe create a page or maybe with the support point
 253 mar 31 22:41:27 <RamiAdrien>	the list of LUG who work with us
 254 mar 31 22:41:47 <jean7491>	a kind of partners page ?
 255 mar 31 22:41:59 <RamiAdrien>	yes but one special for the Lug
 256 mar 31 22:42:07 <woutervddn>	Lug?
 257 mar 31 22:42:08 <RamiAdrien>	and maybe a another page
 258 mar 31 22:42:28 <jean7491>	linux user group
 259 mar 31 22:42:37 <RamiAdrien>	Some Linux User Group do for each release of Ubuntu a Ubuntu Install Party
 260 mar 31 22:43:04 <EmilyPlays>	Do other distros have loco to
 261 mar 31 22:43:12 <jean7491>	it can be added in our agenda
 262 mar 31 22:43:12 <EmilyPlays>	like fedora or linux mint?
 263 mar 31 22:43:36 <RamiAdrien>	I don't have any event for now but i have any information i will added in the agenda
 264 mar 31 22:43:37 <RamiAdrien>	:)
 265 mar 31 22:43:41 <RamiAdrien>	if*
 266 mar 31 22:44:36 <jean7491>	EmiliyPlays fedora? mint : a community, yes, but no idea about 
 267 mar 31 22:44:47 <woutervddn>	emilyplays, there are communities but afaik ubuntu is the only distro that has so many local teams..
 268 mar 31 22:44:48 <RamiAdrien>	I don't have idea too
 269 mar 31 22:45:01 <RamiAdrien>	woutervddn is right
 270 mar 31 22:45:14 <RamiAdrien>	I look after often about Free Software Community
 271 mar 31 22:45:24 <RamiAdrien>	and for wallonie I can say that the most active community is
 272 mar 31 22:45:32 <jean7491>	RamiAdrien why a separate page for lugs and another for other free softs
 273 mar 31 22:45:32 <EmilyPlays>	Maybe that is a task for the soon to be created promotion team
 274 mar 31 22:45:52 <RamiAdrien>	jean7491: Great Idea
 275 mar 31 22:45:53 <EmilyPlays>	contacting other free sofware deticated groups?
 276 mar 31 22:46:12 <RamiAdrien>	I am in contact with other free software group
 277 mar 31 22:46:13 <EmilyPlays>	+1 for jean
 278 mar 31 22:46:24 <RamiAdrien>	for wallonie we have FSFE, Educoo, Mozilla, Drupal
 279 mar 31 22:46:40 <jean7491>	Adrien : this was a question, why 2 pages ?
 280 mar 31 22:47:21 <RamiAdrien>	jean7491:  Because we can do something like support point with the Lug, such as invite people to go there
 281 mar 31 22:47:41 <EmilyPlays>	exchange tips  adn such
 282 mar 31 22:47:48 <RamiAdrien>	exactly
 283 mar 31 22:47:58 <woutervddn>	I think that shouldn't be a page but an entire website :p
 284 mar 31 22:48:02 <EmilyPlays>	or help each other
 285 mar 31 22:48:11 <RamiAdrien>	woutervddn:  lol
 286 mar 31 22:48:39 <woutervddn>	I mean, if every site or LUG would have a page with tips etc it would get scatered around the internet..
 287 mar 31 22:48:42 <EmilyPlays>	An head organisatino for all free software in belgium :p
 288 mar 31 22:48:43 <RamiAdrien>	For the Free Software Community I am in contact with all, Sylvain and I represent Educoo, FSFE, Mozilla
 289 mar 31 22:49:41 <RamiAdrien>	And for Drupal Gilles Bailleux the president of the french association is a friend, and Didier Misson from the Drupal User Group too
 290 mar 31 22:49:55 <woutervddn>	foss.be is allready taken :(
 291 mar 31 22:50:05 <jean7491>	imho it was more a page with links to other asso or lugs, but no much text
 292 mar 31 22:50:16 <woutervddn>	^ I agree..
 293 mar 31 22:50:22 <RamiAdrien>	+1
 294 mar 31 22:50:36 <woutervddn>	a page to exchange tips for FOSS teams in belgium is a good thing aswel, but it shouldn't be on the ubuntu site..
 295 mar 31 22:50:46 <woutervddn>	*ubuntu-be site..
 296 mar 31 22:51:08 <EmilyPlays>	then fos.be
 297 mar 31 22:51:14 <RamiAdrien>	I think we have to do it if is there a link between the community
 298 mar 31 22:51:15 <RamiAdrien>	for example
 299 mar 31 22:51:22 <RamiAdrien>	Mozilla and Ubuntu it's not a problem
 300 mar 31 22:51:35 <RamiAdrien>	There are Firefox in Ubuntu Basic Installation
 301 mar 31 22:51:53 <RamiAdrien>	And Lug of course link between the Lug who spread Ubuntu
 302 mar 31 22:52:18 <RamiAdrien>	To do link but with a logical reason
 303 mar 31 22:52:33 <EmilyPlays>	 if we make a domain name for it, make it as short as possible
 304 mar 31 22:52:40 <EmilyPlays>	easy to advertise
 305 mar 31 22:53:20 <jean7491>	JanC your opinion ? i propose adrien and wouter write together a suggestion that we can discuss here later and with mongolito404
 306 mar 31 22:53:46 <EmilyPlays>	+1 for that idea
 307 mar 31 22:53:50 <RamiAdrien>	+1
 308 mar 31 22:54:27 <jean7491>	JanC ?
 309 mar 31 22:55:50 <jean7491>	woutervddn your opinion ?
 310 mar 31 22:56:27 <woutervddn>	was afk for a sec..
 311 mar 31 22:57:02 <woutervddn>	sounds good to me..
 312 mar 31 22:57:10 <EmilyPlays>	:)
 313 mar 31 22:57:32 <RamiAdrien>	We create a wiki page about it?
 314 mar 31 22:58:03 <EmilyPlays>	+1
 315 mar 31 22:58:08 <woutervddn>	but what should be the purpose of the page.. just mentioning the teams etc or do we also add the tips section? (or do we move that to an other topic)
 316 mar 31 22:58:36 <EmilyPlays>	list of idea + organisation
 317 mar 31 22:58:44 <EmilyPlays>	if it grows to big
 318 mar 31 22:58:46 <EmilyPlays>	split it
 319 mar 31 22:59:08 <RamiAdrien>	Good idea
 320 mar 31 22:59:16 <woutervddn>	ok..
 321 mar 31 22:59:25 <RamiAdrien>	it should be easier
 322 mar 31 22:59:32 <RamiAdrien>	for a first time
 323 mar 31 22:59:33 <jean7491>	i suppose you mean a page to start to work on the idea ?
 324 mar 31 22:59:42 <RamiAdrien>	yep
 325 mar 31 22:59:47 <EmilyPlays>	yes
 326 mar 31 22:59:55 <RamiAdrien>	and also EmilyPlays idea about split it
 327 mar 31 23:00:02 <RamiAdrien>	if it grows to big :)
 328 mar 31 23:00:16 <woutervddn>	I'll make a wiki page..
 329 mar 31 23:00:35 <woutervddn>	jean, advice on where to put the page :p
 330 mar 31 23:00:42 <jean7491>	BelgianTeam/Website/LinksToAssociations  for example 
 331 mar 31 23:00:57 <EmilyPlays>	+1
 332 mar 31 23:01:21 <RamiAdrien>	+1
 333 mar 31 23:01:54 <woutervddn>	ok
 334 mar 31 23:02:07 <jean7491>	imho the purpose is to gather ideas and to fix rules and how to ... to prepare links in the website
 335 mar 31 23:02:36 <jean7491>	like we did for commercial links
 336 mar 31 23:03:14 <EmilyPlays>	+1
 337 mar 31 23:03:21 <RamiAdrien>	+1 :)
 338 mar 31 23:03:23 <jean7491>	other comment about the web-site in general or the wiki in general ?
 339 mar 31 23:03:57 <woutervddn>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/LinksToAssociations made..
 340 mar 31 23:04:20 <woutervddn>	adrien, go ahead and paste your ideas I'll think about it to and add them tomorrow :)
 341 mar 31 23:04:44 <RamiAdrien>	great :)
 342 mar 31 23:06:05 <jean7491>	to stay logic, add a link on the wiki home page Who ... web: http://ubuntu-be.org  before  * Addition of links on the web-site
 343 mar 31 23:07:26 <jean7491>	@wouter : to have an entry to the page in the Belgian team home page
 344 mar 31 23:07:59 <jean7491>	if no other comment, we continue with next topic
 345 mar 31 23:08:10 <RamiAdrien>	I think
 346 mar 31 23:08:15 <RamiAdrien>	it could be interestinc
 347 mar 31 23:08:24 <RamiAdrien>	to do that with school too
 348 mar 31 23:08:35 <RamiAdrien>	but after all of that :)
 349 mar 31 23:09:04 <RamiAdrien>	if we found school or project that using Ubuntu it could be interesting to mention it and maybe create link of webiste
 350 mar 31 23:09:13 <RamiAdrien>	each other as possible
 351 mar 31 23:09:57 <RamiAdrien>	to show how Ubuntu is important in Belgium
 352 mar 31 23:10:17 <RamiAdrien>	(i will add the idea in the wiki too)
 353 mar 31 23:10:41 <jean7491>	schools? we have another place https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Education
 354 mar 31 23:11:09 <woutervddn>	link on homepage added.. :)
 355 mar 31 23:11:20 <woutervddn>	although I might change the text :s
 356 mar 31 23:11:41 <jean7491>	ok, we continue next topic # 4. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ?
 357 mar 31 23:11:54 <jean7491>	item # 1 -  laying some foundations or ubuntu-be needs a structure and an organization
 358 mar 31 23:12:05 <jean7491>	notes about a leading council and its mission statement has been added to the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamOrganization
 359 mar 31 23:12:25 <jean7491>	the first section of the page is about defining the agenda for the meeting planned on 25/04 in vilvoorde
 360 mar 31 23:12:30 <woutervddn>	RamiAdrien I like that idea but I propose to wait until after easter :)
 361 mar 31 23:12:45 <RamiAdrien>	woutervddn:  No Problem :)
 362 mar 31 23:13:25 <jean7491>	perhaps you have other opinions, but imho, if there is an agreement on the need of an organization, the main issue will be the creation of a leading council which should be active in coordination, support and taking decision when needed in accordance with a mission statement
 363 mar 31 23:15:07 <jean7491>	and it will be only 1 step forwards, the rest (of the problems and organization) will follow
 364 mar 31 23:16:07 <jean7491>	any comment ?
 365 mar 31 23:16:13 <woutervddn>	I do believe it is the most imporant step jean.
 366 mar 31 23:16:31 <woutervddn>	once we have a council I hope things can go quicker..
 367 mar 31 23:17:15 <RamiAdrien>	+1
 368 mar 31 23:17:30 <jean7491>	quicker ? i don't know, but safer with a recognized leading group
 369 mar 31 23:17:37 <woutervddn>	indeed..
 370 mar 31 23:17:57 <woutervddn>	I think it would be nice to see a team of 4/5 people who take lead in the changes..
 371 mar 31 23:18:23 <jean7491>	idd
 372 mar 31 23:18:39 <woutervddn>	a team that makes descisions. That we we don't need to vote every small detail with a whole group of people..
 373 mar 31 23:20:16 <woutervddn>	I'm wondering which would be better: having the council make those descisions or have a seperate team making the desicions (but that team would require the approval of the council)
 374 mar 31 23:20:50 <woutervddn>	the second option would be a seperation of powers.. :p
 375 mar 31 23:21:53 <jean7491>	imho this is a problem for the council to develop internal rules
 376 mar 31 23:22:10 <woutervddn>	ok..
 377 mar 31 23:22:26 <jean7491>	as the council should be the authority
 378 mar 31 23:22:35 <woutervddn>	I do hope the community doesn't start picking on every move the council makes!
 379 mar 31 23:22:45 <woutervddn>	else it would ruin a quick transition..
 380 mar 31 23:23:47 <jean7491>	we need support of a lot of active members !
 381 mar 31 23:24:23 <RamiAdrien>	And about create system of official fellowship
 382 mar 31 23:24:32 <RamiAdrien>	for example FSFE work with that
 383 mar 31 23:24:35 <RamiAdrien>	a cotisation
 384 mar 31 23:24:43 <RamiAdrien>	and you have some official stuff
 385 mar 31 23:24:47 <woutervddn>	indeed (both jean and adrien)
 386 mar 31 23:24:59 <RamiAdrien>	like ID card website and ect...
 387 mar 31 23:25:19 <RamiAdrien>	I think it could a good way to implicate people
 388 mar 31 23:25:23 <RamiAdrien>	step by step
 389 mar 31 23:25:37 <jean7491>	ok, but details are for later
 390 mar 31 23:25:45 <RamiAdrien>	ok
 391 mar 31 23:25:58 <jean7491>	we continue ...
 392 mar 31 23:26:14 <jean7491>	item # 2 - membership belgian loco team on launchpad 
 393 mar 31 23:26:47 <jean7491>	welcome to bjorn robijns (aalst) ! very glad to see you in the meeting !
 394 mar 31 23:27:47 <jean7491>	again welcome Bjorn_
 395 mar 31 23:27:55 <Bjorn_>	thnx :)
 396 mar 31 23:27:57 <RamiAdrien>	welcome :)
 397 mar 31 23:28:14 <jean7491>	next item #3 - others questions not in the agenda ? 
 398 mar 31 23:29:36 <jean7491>	f no question, ... last topic, next irc meeting ? on thursday 07/04/2011 at 21 h. ?
 399 mar 31 23:30:00 <woutervddn>	looks good to me :)
 400 mar 31 23:30:08 <Bjorn_>	ok for me :)
 401 mar 31 23:30:10 <jean7491>	JanC ?
 402 mar 31 23:30:45 <jean7491>	RamiAdrien ?
 403 mar 31 23:31:31 <RamiAdrien>	look okay for me
 404 mar 31 23:31:42 <jean7491>	JanC ?
 405 mar 31 23:32:25 <jean7491>	end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !