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   1 avr 07 21:00:35 <jean7491>	hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   2 avr 07 21:00:48 <JanC>	o/
   3 avr 07 21:01:17 <JanC>	mimor, clamam ?
   4 avr 07 21:01:18 <clamam>	Hello
   5 avr 07 21:01:24 <mimor>	lo
   6 avr 07 21:02:14 <mimor>	is jean7491 leading the meeting?
   7 avr 07 21:02:20 <jean7491>	hi JanC , clamam , mimor 
   8 avr 07 21:04:30 <mimor>	hi jean7491
   9 avr 07 21:05:17 <jean7491>	thid id firdtly our weekly meeting,  as nobody else is willing to lead the meeting, i do it, but if anyone else will to do it ...
  10 avr 07 21:05:34 <jean7491>	this is firstly ...
  11 avr 07 21:06:10 <jean7491>	RamiAdrien ?
  12 avr 07 21:06:27 <RamiAdrien>	Hi
  13 avr 07 21:06:28 <RamiAdrien>	:)
  14 avr 07 21:06:37 <RamiAdrien>	I answered to an email ;)
  15 avr 07 21:06:42 <jean7491>	hi RamiAdrien
  16 avr 07 21:07:56 <mimor>	jean7491: I have the iventory of the part of the eventbox still at my place:
  17 avr 07 21:07:59 <mimor>	http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/590932/
  18 avr 07 21:09:06 *	jurgentje (~jurgen@94-227-10-80.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  19 avr 07 21:09:23 *	massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.183.6) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  20 avr 07 21:09:29 <jurgentje>	Hi :)
  21 avr 07 21:09:36 <massimo21>	hello
  22 avr 07 21:09:50 <jurgentje>	sorry I'm lat
  23 avr 07 21:09:50 <jurgentje>	e
  24 avr 07 21:10:31 <RamiAdrien>	hi :)
  25 avr 07 21:10:56 <jean7491>	hi massimo21 jurgentje
  26 avr 07 21:11:42 <jean7491>	mimor thx for the inventory
  27 avr 07 21:12:02 <jean7491>	let's start topic #1.  events 
  28 avr 07 21:12:10 <jean7491>	 item #1 dipro fair mechelen – 27/03/2011 - report
  29 avr 07 21:12:47 <jean7491>	no contact with nero, jurgentje can you say something ?
  30 avr 07 21:12:53 <jurgentje>	okay... this was like the worst dipro day I've ever had in amount of people or money
  31 avr 07 21:13:07 <jurgentje>	but we had some great talks with people.
  32 avr 07 21:13:26 <clamam>	why?
  33 avr 07 21:13:48 <jurgentje>	and very much commitment: I've been to a little boy at his home last week, and also have a meeting planned with someone who's planning a project in Latin America
  34 avr 07 21:13:49 <clamam>	how many volunteerd?
  35 avr 07 21:14:08 <jurgentje>	great weather - and apparently it was carnaval in Mechelen too
  36 avr 07 21:14:27 <jurgentje>	ummmm, I think we were with 5 people, of which 3 were from HCC
  37 avr 07 21:15:51 <jean7491>	it is like everywhere, dipro fairs attract less people
  38 avr 07 21:15:59 <mimor>	how many times a year is it dipro in mechelen?
  39 avr 07 21:16:15 <jean7491>	2x
  40 avr 07 21:16:21 <jurgentje>	only 2?
  41 avr 07 21:16:34 <jurgentje>	could be... and 3 times in Antwerp?
  42 avr 07 21:16:45 <JanC>	probably 4x
  43 avr 07 21:17:02 <jurgentje>	could be too, I don't really count them
  44 avr 07 21:17:32 <jean7491>	a'pen = 3x dipro fairs + 1x 2 hobbydays
  45 avr 07 21:17:34 *	vromh_ (5bb5d3c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.181.211.200) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  46 avr 07 21:17:47 <JanC>	right, 3 regular ones
  47 avr 07 21:18:05 <jean7491>	other comment about mechelen ? 
  48 avr 07 21:18:18 <jurgentje>	nope, not really.
  49 avr 07 21:18:38 <jean7491>	item #2  dipro fair genk – 03/04/2011 - report
  50 avr 07 21:18:51 <jean7491>	clamam ? or massimo ?
  51 avr 07 21:19:09 <clamam>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Genk_2011-04-03
  52 avr 07 21:19:29 <clamam>	on the wiki you can find the report and some pictures
  53 avr 07 21:19:40 <clamam>	it was a good fair
  54 avr 07 21:20:21 <mimor>	many people?
  55 avr 07 21:20:28 <clamam>	and we had a lot of time to know each other better
  56 avr 07 21:20:41 <clamam>	no, not too many people
  57 avr 07 21:20:41 <jurgentje>	oh yeah... I tried a little thingie on Mechelen... with my camera, I asked some users: "why do you use ubuntu?"
  58 avr 07 21:20:56 <jurgentje>	but as we didn't have much crowd, I only had 2 testimonials
  59 avr 07 21:21:13 <jurgentje>	if we could have a few of them (from all over the country) ... I could become a collage.
  60 avr 07 21:21:49 <JanC>	true
  61 avr 07 21:21:57 *	RamiAdrien est parti (Quit: Page closed)
  62 avr 07 21:21:58 <clamam>	jurgentje: great idea, would be a nice video
  63 avr 07 21:22:25 <jurgentje>	and since people start knowing we are there, they often like to come along to share sympathies :)
  64 avr 07 21:22:56 <jurgentje>	so if you have whatever camcorder... just do it :)
  65 avr 07 21:23:09 <jean7491>	good idea, could be a suggestion when preparation of events is going on
  66 avr 07 21:23:30 <clamam>	or we can use a good webcam
  67 avr 07 21:23:43 <vromh_>	exit
  68 avr 07 21:23:46 <jurgentje>	sure :)
  69 avr 07 21:23:57 <vromh_>	quit
  70 avr 07 21:23:57 <massimo21>	like the idea
  71 avr 07 21:24:01 *	vromh_ est parti (Quit: Page closed)
  72 avr 07 21:24:20 <JanC>	hm, Pieter has a camera
  73 avr 07 21:24:31 <jurgentje>	and it's a great little project to try pitivi or openshot on :)
  74 avr 07 21:24:44 <JanC>	.oO (thinking about Ghent)
  75 avr 07 21:24:54 <jean7491>	... but it need a minimum of preparation (material and people)
  76 avr 07 21:24:58 *	RamiAdrien (~adrien@78.129.23.239) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
  77 avr 07 21:25:39 <jean7491>	other comment mechelen or genk ?
  78 avr 07 21:25:41 <jurgentje>	I'd suggest we just add the item to the event  preparation page - and get back on topic?
  79 avr 07 21:26:15 <jean7491>	ok
  80 avr 07 21:26:55 <jean7491>	next item #3 The Foire du Libre – Louvain-la-Neuve - 06/04/2011 - report
  81 avr 07 21:27:03 <jean7491>	adrien ?
  82 avr 07 21:27:14 <clamam>	JanC: sorry that i didnt send the cd's that were leftover, i had a funeral today and i had little time this week because of it.
  83 avr 07 21:27:38 <RamiAdrien>	Like I say on the wiki great event. Not crowded but people regulary
  84 avr 07 21:28:14 <RamiAdrien>	Pictures will come later
  85 avr 07 21:28:35 <jean7491>	 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/FoireDuLibre-LLN-2011-04-06 
  86 avr 07 21:29:29 <jean7491>	other comment ?
  87 avr 07 21:29:40 <RamiAdrien>	maybe just one
  88 avr 07 21:29:55 <RamiAdrien>	they have a really good infrastructure to organize big event
  89 avr 07 21:30:02 *	padv est parti (Remote host closed the connection)
  90 avr 07 21:30:05 <RamiAdrien>	and they really want to do a big install party with us
  91 avr 07 21:30:18 <RamiAdrien>	but for the 11.10 because for 11.
  92 avr 07 21:30:27 <RamiAdrien>	11.04 student will be in exams
  93 avr 07 21:31:02 <JanC>	nice
  94 avr 07 21:31:30 <jean7491>	good idea, take necessary contacts !
  95 avr 07 21:31:50 <clamam>	........What is the nickname of Alexander that was on the fair in Genk?
  96 avr 07 21:32:07 <RamiAdrien>	I am in contact with Aurelien Paulus, he is the organisator of the Foire du Libre and he is a good friend so no matter to do it :)
  97 avr 07 21:32:10 <jean7491>	acraens 
  98 avr 07 21:32:47 <clamam>	thank you, jean7491
  99 avr 07 21:33:49 <jean7491>	ok, we continue with item #4 Dipro fair Ghent - 10/04/2011 
 100 avr 07 21:33:59 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-04-10
 101 avr 07 21:34:19 <jean7491>	JanC ? mimor ?
 102 avr 07 21:35:50 <jean7491>	afaik team and material should be ok
 103 avr 07 21:35:50 <JanC>	I have a question for mimor: do you have transport back home after the fair, for the event box?  ☺
 104 avr 07 21:36:03 <mimor>	I don't
 105 avr 07 21:36:23 <JanC>	becasue I really would like to go home early
 106 avr 07 21:36:43 <JanC>	I can pick stuff up in the morning like last time
 107 avr 07 21:37:08 <JanC>	I think one of the new peopel was going to stay until the end?
 108 avr 07 21:37:58 <mimor>	are they here?
 109 avr 07 21:38:40 <mimor>	I can't take all the stuff
 110 avr 07 21:40:01 *	pep` (~pep@91.180.107.138) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 111 avr 07 21:40:09 <JanC>	we would have to mail him, I think
 112 avr 07 21:40:23 <mimor>	Bjorn Jonas Pieter or Nero
 113 avr 07 21:40:43 <JanC>	is Nero coming to Ghent?
 114 avr 07 21:40:50 <mimor>	he's on the wiki
 115 avr 07 21:40:55 <jean7491>	yes
 116 avr 07 21:40:57 <JanC>	then he will come by car
 117 avr 07 21:41:07 <JanC>	I suppose
 118 avr 07 21:41:16 <mimor>	can you mail him JanC ?
 119 avr 07 21:41:47 <jean7491>	jonas is coming with the train, bjorn ?
 120 avr 07 21:42:11 <JanC>	I think bjorn won't stay until the end?
 121 avr 07 21:43:27 <jean7491>	he leaves between 12 and 14 hr.
 122 avr 07 21:43:48 <jean7491>	afaik
 123 avr 07 21:44:13 <mimor>	so only me and nero stay till the end?
 124 avr 07 21:44:39 *	pep` est parti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
 125 avr 07 21:45:42 <jean7491>	i don't know when jonas is leaving, not sure for pieter
 126 avr 07 21:46:45 <jean7491>	other comment ? or next item
 127 avr 07 21:46:46 <JanC>	I called Nero
 128 avr 07 21:46:57 <JanC>	he stays until the end
 129 avr 07 21:47:04 <mimor>	with car?
 130 avr 07 21:47:30 <JanC>	but he needs to know what car he has to bring
 131 avr 07 21:47:57 <JanC>	if it won't fit in a Smart, he needs to borrow the car from his wife  ☺
 132 avr 07 21:48:18 <jurgentje>	I think he better be Smart ... and don't Smart :)
 133 avr 07 21:48:21 *	pep` (~pep@91.180.150.225) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 134 avr 07 21:48:24 <jean7491>	if necessary, please call a special irc coordination meeting for ghent dipro, so we can continue
 135 avr 07 21:48:24 <JanC>	so he needs to know how many boxes etc.
 136 avr 07 21:48:44 <jean7491>	item #5   rewics (Rencontres Wallonnes de l'Internet Citoyen) charleroi  - 04/05/2011
 137 avr 07 21:48:52 <jean7491>	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/2011/Rewics-2011-05-04  (coordination: adrien)
 138 avr 07 21:49:01 <jean7491>	adrien : comment ?
 139 avr 07 21:49:09 <RamiAdrien>	I have to complete the wiki
 140 avr 07 21:49:17 <RamiAdrien>	I have 4 people for the event
 141 avr 07 21:49:21 <RamiAdrien>	but more I think
 142 avr 07 21:49:36 <RamiAdrien>	a lot of people want to participate to this event
 143 avr 07 21:49:57 <jean7491>	better more than 4, so you can work with shifts
 144 avr 07 21:50:27 <mimor>	JanC: tell him not to bring the smart :)
 145 avr 07 21:51:16 <jean7491>	adrien, have a look at the local "support points - events" and call people
 146 avr 07 21:51:32 <jean7491>	other comment ?
 147 avr 07 21:51:45 <RamiAdrien>	Everybody is ok for the event
 148 avr 07 21:51:55 <RamiAdrien>	maybe Sylvain will look for some stuff
 149 avr 07 21:52:31 <jean7491>	btw, did you sell t-shirts in lln ?
 150 avr 07 21:52:48 <RamiAdrien>	Not much unfortunately
 151 avr 07 21:52:56 <RamiAdrien>	but we sell all the metal sticker
 152 avr 07 21:53:21 <RamiAdrien>	we have an event this months
 153 avr 07 21:54:07 <jean7491>	ask to janc again metal stickers !
 154 avr 07 21:54:16 <RamiAdrien>	okay :)
 155 avr 07 21:54:34 <jean7491>	next ...
 156 avr 07 21:54:41 <jean7491>	item #6  dipro fair antwerp – 08/05/2011
 157 avr 07 21:54:59 <jean7491>	planning started ... volunteers, pleade add your name in the wiki
 158 avr 07 21:55:07 <jean7491>	  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Antwerp_2011-05-08 (coordination: bram)
 159 avr 07 21:55:26 <jean7491>	i suppose there is no comment ?
 160 avr 07 21:55:57 <jurgentje>	I'll be there :)
 161 avr 07 21:56:31 <jean7491>	nice, please add your name in the wiki !
 162 avr 07 21:56:48 <jurgentje>	is done already :)
 163 avr 07 21:56:59 <jean7491>	ok, next ...
 164 avr 07 21:57:02 <jean7491>	item #7 release parties 11.04 ? do you know release parties planned by other associations? i only know brugge 
 165 avr 07 21:57:07 <RamiAdrien>	JanC: Sylvain told me that he will send you the report about money at last during holiday
 166 avr 07 21:59:16 <jean7491>	release party 11.04 in Brugge – 11/05 (organized by wamukota) , are there others ? louvain-li-nux ? others ?
 167 avr 07 21:59:35 <mimor>	not in Ghent that I know of... sorry
 168 avr 07 21:59:57 <jurgentje>	not over here
 169 avr 07 22:00:02 <jean7491>	hcc ? bitmappers ? monitor ?
 170 avr 07 22:00:07 <RamiAdrien>	I will do all the necessary that week and i will add the event
 171 avr 07 22:01:36 <jean7491>	i suppose de wereldmorgen (ex-indimedia) will do it, but last minute organization
 172 avr 07 22:02:13 <jean7491>	btw, JanC , check with alain (wamukota) which hardware (laptops) he needs in brugge ?
 173 avr 07 22:02:22 <jurgentje>	possibly BXLUG will do something (they did last time together with Hackerspace Bxl - but I didn't hear of them yet)
 174 avr 07 22:02:37 <jean7491>	ok
 175 avr 07 22:02:53 <jean7491>	other comment about events ?
 176 avr 07 22:03:26 <RamiAdrien>	I speak with people form Bxlug
 177 avr 07 22:03:31 <RamiAdrien>	they will do something
 178 avr 07 22:03:40 <RamiAdrien>	NamurLug, Culbutte, Loligrub too
 179 avr 07 22:03:46 <jurgentje>	I'm sure they can use the hackerspace again, if they want to :)
 180 avr 07 22:04:12 <mimor>	if they'll ask
 181 avr 07 22:04:45 <jean7491>	ok, pass the info in the mailing list and agenda on website when available
 182 avr 07 22:04:54 <RamiAdrien>	and maybe laclic and the school from ecaussinnes too
 183 avr 07 22:04:59 <RamiAdrien>	ok :)
 184 avr 07 22:05:03 <jean7491>	ok
 185 avr 07 22:05:21 <mimor>	they have a meeting there on 17th of April...
 186 avr 07 22:05:58 <jean7491>	we continue with next topic # 2. Promotion
 187 avr 07 22:06:09 <jean7491>	 item #1 t-shirts for Ubuntu-be : 
 188 avr 07 22:06:22 <jean7491>	possibility to order via the web-site is open
 189 avr 07 22:06:54 <jean7491>	other comment ?
 190 avr 07 22:07:11 *	Bjorn__ (4e17910e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.23.145.14) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 191 avr 07 22:07:28 <jurgentje>	where?
 192 avr 07 22:07:28 <Bjorn__>	good evening you all
 193 avr 07 22:07:57 <jurgentje>	found it
 194 avr 07 22:08:18 <jean7491>	hi Bjorn_
 195 avr 07 22:08:32 <massimo21>	woudn't it be tim to lower the price of the t-shirts?
 196 avr 07 22:09:18 *	RamiAdrien est parti (Quit: Leaving.)
 197 avr 07 22:09:39 <jean7491>	why now, let's wait till end of may
 198 avr 07 22:09:40 <jurgentje>	I don't think so... I think this can be a good piece of budget (for example to go buying those rollouts)
 199 avr 07 22:10:14 *	RamiAdrien (~adrien@78.129.23.239) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 200 avr 07 22:10:43 <JanC>	15 € isn't much
 201 avr 07 22:11:06 <JanC>	considering teh quality etc.
 202 avr 07 22:11:30 <jean7491>	we can eventually do later summer-promotion !
 203 avr 07 22:11:42 <jean7491>	but not now
 204 avr 07 22:11:55 <massimo21>	sales are at july
 205 avr 07 22:12:00 <massimo21>	:-)
 206 avr 07 22:12:28 <jean7491>	so we have time !
 207 avr 07 22:12:40 <jean7491>	next item #2 promotion material for fairs/events - flyers 2011
 208 avr 07 22:12:54 <jean7491>	 please look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsFlyers2011 for the last improved proposal Massimiliano V3 (06/04/2011) – Nl  that was our choice.
 209 avr 07 22:12:57 <massimo21>	made the changes as you requested
 210 avr 07 22:13:04 <jean7491>	ok, thx
 211 avr 07 22:13:14 <massimo21>	also posted
 212 avr 07 22:13:26 <massimo21>	is it ok now?
 213 avr 07 22:13:51 <jean7491>	yes, i saw, for me it is ok, other comment ?
 214 avr 07 22:15:50 <mimor>	Is there still any point in still going to every Dipro?
 215 avr 07 22:16:04 <mimor>	The only thing I've read so far is, not many people...
 216 avr 07 22:16:08 <jurgentje>	one typo
 217 avr 07 22:16:13 <jurgentje>	geregistreerd handelsmerk
 218 avr 07 22:16:16 <RamiAdrien>	Do you have any news from Dipro for wallonie?
 219 avr 07 22:16:17 <jurgentje>	(without E)
 220 avr 07 22:16:26 <massimo21>	damnt
 221 avr 07 22:16:29 <RamiAdrien>	They say it was the last in wallonie :/
 222 avr 07 22:17:05 <jean7491>	massimo21 : up to you !
 223 avr 07 22:17:12 <massimo21>	we need also a french translation of th flyer
 224 avr 07 22:17:48 <jean7491>	yes, but less urgent
 225 avr 07 22:18:02 <JanC>	there are 2 things about dipro: 1. we see possible future users and 2. we meet existing users
 226 avr 07 22:18:13 <JanC>	we get less and less of 1. though...
 227 avr 07 22:18:24 <RamiAdrien>	for the flyers if there an english version i can traduce it
 228 avr 07 22:18:37 <jean7491>	about dipro wallonie, no idea, no info from dipro
 229 avr 07 22:19:02 <jean7491>	about going to each dipro : no must
 230 avr 07 22:19:35 <jean7491>	but this is a way to contact people, more than not going to
 231 avr 07 22:19:38 <jurgentje>	I do think it's a priority actually
 232 avr 07 22:19:47 <jurgentje>	It's a certainty people start building on
 233 avr 07 22:20:21 <jurgentje>	after a while people start counting on our presence for questions... (and we imply we're there too)
 234 avr 07 22:20:24 <mimor>	It's nice, but this is 2011 we don't need to go to people in person to tell them about Ubuntu :)
 235 avr 07 22:21:10 <jean7491>	but personal contact is a plus when promoting !
 236 avr 07 22:21:17 <JanC>	if we don't go to Dipro, we need an alternative IMO  ☺
 237 avr 07 22:21:27 <mimor>	It's just as every single dipro I witness at Ghent we wonder if we'll have to pay extra ourselves to be there that time
 238 avr 07 22:21:35 <mimor>	till now, it has been close every thime
 239 avr 07 22:21:38 <JanC>	that reaches "normal" people, not only students & geeks
 240 avr 07 22:21:39 <mimor>	*time
 241 avr 07 22:21:40 <mimor>	:p
 242 avr 07 22:21:49 <mimor>	true
 243 avr 07 22:22:06 <mimor>	in no doubt we reach new people this way
 244 avr 07 22:22:18 <mimor>	I'm doubting if the effor/result is still worth it
 245 avr 07 22:22:19 <jurgentje>	maybe ask for support a little more explicit. We explain that we need their money to pay for the booth
 246 avr 07 22:22:29 *	woutervddn (~woutervdd@d54C1A7ED.access.telenet.be) a rejoint #ubuntu-be
 247 avr 07 22:22:33 <mimor>	we do too :)
 248 avr 07 22:22:39 <JanC>	jurgentje: in general we already do that
 249 avr 07 22:22:55 <woutervddn>	hi guys.. sry I'm (really) late..
 250 avr 07 22:22:58 <jurgentje>	ah, okay... sorry for stating the obvious :s
 251 avr 07 22:22:59 <woutervddn>	I just got home.. :)
 252 avr 07 22:23:04 <mimor>	perhaps this is too much of a personal view on the current state
 253 avr 07 22:23:14 <mimor>	but I just wanted to share/discuss it
 254 avr 07 22:23:15 <RamiAdrien>	hi woutervddn
 255 avr 07 22:23:20 <woutervddn>	p/
 256 avr 07 22:23:21 <clamam>	hello Woutervddn
 257 avr 07 22:23:22 <JanC>	but it also depends who etc. (I won't ask money if somebody came to us with a big problem and we couldn't fix it...  ;) )
 258 avr 07 22:23:25 <woutervddn>	*o/
 259 avr 07 22:23:41 <jurgentje>	I think income from the T-shirts can cover for the costs of dipro booths.
 260 avr 07 22:23:56 <JanC>	jurgentje: that helped, yes
 261 avr 07 22:24:14 <JanC>	unfortunately, we won't have t-shirts in Ghent, I think?
 262 avr 07 22:24:24 <jurgentje>	and solidarity?
 263 avr 07 22:24:36 <mimor>	it's a rare occasion to have T shirts in Ghent :)
 264 avr 07 22:24:37 <JanC>	we will have metal case badges though
 265 avr 07 22:24:50 <mimor>	ooh :)
 266 avr 07 22:24:58 <JanC>	0.5 € / piece
 267 avr 07 22:25:07 <JanC>	so not much...
 268 avr 07 22:25:11 <jean7491>	you don't have to pay yourself for the booth: when benefit it goes to ubuntu-be, when it is a short of money, ubuntu-be will refund
 269 avr 07 22:25:23 <jurgentje>	that's what I mean
 270 avr 07 22:25:27 <JanC>	we can try to sell posters too  ;)
 271 avr 07 22:25:35 <jurgentje>	I think that's important - it is for me anyway.
 272 avr 07 22:25:40 <mimor>	jean7491: that's none of a problem, almost each time, I donate 5 euro's myself
 273 avr 07 22:26:15 <JanC>	we already donate time  ;)
 274 avr 07 22:26:29 <mimor>	The sold swag should bring in money to buy new swagg
 275 avr 07 22:26:29 <JanC>	let the other users donate teh money  :P
 276 avr 07 22:26:38 <jurgentje>	+1
 277 avr 07 22:26:47 <jurgentje>	(or other fairs)
 278 avr 07 22:27:09 <jean7491>	feel free to do it, 
 279 avr 07 22:27:11 <JanC>	hm, where are teh t-shirts currently?
 280 avr 07 22:27:32 <jean7491>	hasselt and charleroi afaik
 281 avr 07 22:27:44 <jurgentje>	no more t-shirts at Nero?
 282 avr 07 22:27:59 <mimor>	sell a tshirt = buy one new and save some money for a new beamer/screen?
 283 avr 07 22:27:59 <JanC>	he sent them to Charleroi
 284 avr 07 22:28:10 <mimor>	not sell a tshirt hope we can pay the booth?
 285 avr 07 22:29:13 <jurgentje>	if you don't have enough for the booth... say the missing amount. I hope Ubuntu-be will be able to pay for that?
 286 avr 07 22:29:31 <JanC>	jurgentje: no problem
 287 avr 07 22:29:32 <clamam>	why not keep 40 euro's in the eventbox and everything more goes to our account
 288 avr 07 22:29:58 <jean7491>	hi woutervddn
 289 avr 07 22:30:26 <JanC>	jurgentje: ubuntu-be should still have > 1000 € cash I think
 290 avr 07 22:30:28 <woutervddn>	hi jean..
 291 avr 07 22:30:50 <JanC>	even with all the money invested in t-shirts etc.
 292 avr 07 22:31:14 <jurgentje>	okay. So I guess money/donations on Dipro can't be the problem.
 293 avr 07 22:31:27 <jurgentje>	mimor: are there other reasons to drop the Dipro?
 294 avr 07 22:31:37 <jean7491>	40 euros in event-box: for me it is a local team organization, but has to be limited to the necessary
 295 avr 07 22:31:54 <woutervddn>	JanC, I don't think the U-be account ever went under 1000€ with the shirt thing..
 296 avr 07 22:32:01 <JanC>	jurgentje: less & less visitors
 297 avr 07 22:32:36 <mimor>	jurgentje: not enough new/interested people in comparison to the effort we have to do
 298 avr 07 22:32:48 <jurgentje>	okay. understandable.
 299 avr 07 22:33:06 <woutervddn>	I think we should all keep our eyes open to find another place to promote ubuntu..
 300 avr 07 22:33:06 <jurgentje>	so we become 100% "in the cloud"?
 301 avr 07 22:33:18 <jurgentje>	and just have ad-hoc places to promote?
 302 avr 07 22:33:38 <jurgentje>	I think it's important that people know: if I go there... I'll find someone who can help me out...
 303 avr 07 22:33:42 <mimor>	don't start about 'the cloud' plz :s :§
 304 avr 07 22:33:56 <jean7491>	feel free to propose other activities/events
 305 avr 07 22:34:01 <jurgentje>	sorry, I meant we don't have a real physical presence.
 306 avr 07 22:34:13 <jean7491>	can we continue with the flyers-issue 
 307 avr 07 22:34:15 <woutervddn>	jean, I was hoping for that LAN party at genk.
 308 avr 07 22:34:25 <woutervddn>	but massimo told me it was canceled.. :(
 309 avr 07 22:34:29 <jurgentje>	I'm thinking out loud... and if If have ideas, I'll spout them here (as I do always) ;)
 310 avr 07 22:34:30 <JanC>	jurgentje: helping out peopel is not always possible at the dipro fairs though
 311 avr 07 22:34:35 <RamiAdrien>	you don't have much event to be present?
 312 avr 07 22:35:25 <jean7491>	we continue with the flyer-issue ...
 313 avr 07 22:35:32 <jean7491>	next step is  the order: ...
 314 avr 07 22:35:41 <jean7491>	1n 2009, we order 5000 ex. Nl (for 2 years) for 83 euros, tax included – I propose to order another 4 or 5.000 flyers
 315 avr 07 22:36:00 <woutervddn>	5000 seems like a good amount to me..
 316 avr 07 22:36:01 <jean7491>	by flyers.be, the price is 72 euros for 4000 and 78 euros for 5,000 (details: (light - 135g - a6 - recto quadrichrome)
 317 avr 07 22:36:13 <jurgentje>	fine for me. Is it possible to have them shipped to different locations immediately?
 318 avr 07 22:36:22 <JanC>	betetr get 5000 then  ☺
 319 avr 07 22:36:25 <jurgentje>	(little surplus in price)
 320 avr 07 22:37:11 <JanC>	also, maybe get fr flyers to Wallonia directly  ☺
 321 avr 07 22:37:15 <woutervddn>	jean, I asked around to find a cheaper place but it seems like 5000 A6 flyers for -100€ is a pretty sharp price..
 322 avr 07 22:37:26 <jean7491>	jurgentje : what do you mean ?
 323 avr 07 22:38:00 <jurgentje>	well... if they send 1000 to someone in Antwerp, 1000 to Brugge, 1000 to Gent, etc...
 324 avr 07 22:38:03 <JanC>	we can distribute a lot using the "Nero express"  ;)
 325 avr 07 22:38:04 <mimor>	are there any people from Ghent present besides myself?
 326 avr 07 22:38:18 <jurgentje>	even better :)
 327 avr 07 22:38:37 <mimor>	Or does one know Ubuntu dev's from Ghent?
 328 avr 07 22:38:53 <jean7491>	about flyers ?
 329 avr 07 22:39:06 <mimor>	Or even living Close To Ghent?
 330 avr 07 22:39:18 <JanC>	mimor: why?
 331 avr 07 22:39:33 <Bjorn__>	me :)
 332 avr 07 22:39:47 <Bjorn__>	Aalst is just 20 minutes away
 333 avr 07 22:39:58 <mimor>	could be cool to start preparing a Ubuntu 11.10 Release party in the Hackerspace Ghent
 334 avr 07 22:39:59 <JanC>	Bjorn__: you're the Bjorn__ who will come help us Sunday?
 335 avr 07 22:40:02 <woutervddn>	bram lives in ghent :)
 336 avr 07 22:40:13 <woutervddn>	EmilyPlays is also from Ghent afaik
 337 avr 07 22:40:24 <Bjorn__>	idd
 338 avr 07 22:40:25 <mimor>	I've done 2 events before, but they were both last-minute
 339 avr 07 22:40:32 <jean7491>	imho it is better to have 1 central place and then planning for next events and needs in the next 6 months
 340 avr 07 22:41:15 <jean7491>	5 locations with 1000 will be more complicated to manage
 341 avr 07 22:41:32 <mimor>	If I can ensure that there will be talks, I can make sure there is a place for us at the space
 342 avr 07 22:41:34 <Bjorn__>	what's the size of the flyer?
 343 avr 07 22:41:41 <jurgentje>	A6?
 344 avr 07 22:41:46 <jean7491>	a6
 345 avr 07 22:41:48 <woutervddn>	yes..
 346 avr 07 22:41:53 <Bjorn__>	thnx
 347 avr 07 22:41:59 <woutervddn>	I agree with jean..
 348 avr 07 22:42:16 <jean7491>	for now, only nl flyers, ... 
 349 avr 07 22:42:34 <woutervddn>	Bram and I were discussing to ship the shirts to multiple places but we didn't do it after all because things get really clumsy when you split them up..
 350 avr 07 22:43:02 <JanC>	well, we don't have enough t-shirts for that, but we do have enough flyers  ;)
 351 avr 07 22:43:21 <jean7491>	fr flyers can be planned, but not 5000, we have to look for the need
 352 avr 07 22:43:35 <woutervddn>	JanC true.. but a central stock is way easier to manage..
 353 avr 07 22:43:39 <JanC>	yes, RamiAdrien & Sylvain should think about that
 354 avr 07 22:44:08 <jean7491>	idd
 355 avr 07 22:44:26 <JanC>	how many they need for French speaking events
 356 avr 07 22:44:56 <JanC>	they can also send/give some to LUG events etc.
 357 avr 07 22:45:09 <Bjorn__>	about the flyer, i've been looking arround, this one is a little bit cheaper
 358 avr 07 22:45:11 <Bjorn__>	http://www.drukland.be/drukwerk/flyers.html?gclid=CLWJjcyii6gCFYFB4Qod3kyWBg
 359 avr 07 22:45:24 <mimor>	if someone feels like giving an interesting talk on a 11.10 ReleaseParty, let me know ;)
 360 avr 07 22:45:54 <RamiAdrien>	for flyers i think sylvain can print it free at his work
 361 avr 07 22:46:01 <jean7491>	@ massimo21 we will see later about the necessary file for flyer.be or another 
 362 avr 07 22:46:20 <Bjorn__>	ah even better...
 363 avr 07 22:46:23 <RamiAdrien>	not 5000 thousand of course but what we need for event
 364 avr 07 22:46:34 <massimo21>	ok
 365 avr 07 22:46:38 <massimo21>	let me know
 366 avr 07 22:47:13 <jean7491>	@ RamiAdrien you can use the same design, just translate it
 367 avr 07 22:47:27 <jean7491>	@ massimo21 ok
 368 avr 07 22:48:00 <RamiAdrien>	jean7491: ok
 369 avr 07 22:48:15 <jean7491>	other comment about flyers ?
 370 avr 07 22:49:44 <jurgentje>	great job (if that's a comment-)
 371 avr 07 22:49:56 <jean7491>	ok,  next ... item #3 promotion material for fairs/events - rollups
 372 avr 07 22:50:06 <jean7491>	proposals are in the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsRollup2011
 373 avr 07 22:50:07 <JanC>	mimor: see pm please ☺
 374 avr 07 22:50:22 <jean7491>	are there suggestions/proposals/comments
 375 avr 07 22:52:36 <jean7491>	personaly i like the last universal version with one ? , but the red bar shoul be as long as the icons and start lower
 376 avr 07 22:53:42 <RamiAdrien>	+1
 377 avr 07 22:53:49 <jurgentje>	can be done.
 378 avr 07 22:54:34 <jean7491>	woutervddn : your opinion ?
 379 avr 07 22:54:48 <mimor>	k I'm off
 380 avr 07 22:54:59 <mimor>	good night all
 381 avr 07 22:55:04 <jean7491>	bye mimor
 382 avr 07 22:55:43 <woutervddn>	I agree with you jean.. I'll look in to them tomorrow and write my comments..
 383 avr 07 22:55:54 <woutervddn>	*other comments..
 384 avr 07 22:56:44 <jean7491>	other reactions ?
 385 avr 07 22:57:15 <jurgentje>	okay... it's online
 386 avr 07 22:57:19 <jurgentje>	opinions?
 387 avr 07 22:57:47 <jurgentje>	(just replaced the previous one)
 388 avr 07 22:59:09 <jurgentje>	good now?
 389 avr 07 22:59:10 <woutervddn>	If I may pick on details I would make the bottom € logo and the cd a little more 'bold' like..
 390 avr 07 22:59:20 <RamiAdrien>	what about using only whith for the back and using small orange dot
 391 avr 07 22:59:31 <RamiAdrien>	?
 392 avr 07 23:00:04 <jurgentje>	umm woutervddn then we also need to change the flyer?
 393 avr 07 23:00:18 <woutervddn>	xD nvrmnd then :p
 394 avr 07 23:00:22 <jurgentje>	RamiAdrien, I don't understand what you mean
 395 avr 07 23:01:19 <RamiAdrien>	I mean replace the background in grey with the white dot with white bakcground with orange dot
 396 avr 07 23:01:52 <jurgentje>	can try it... but I think it will loose its dynamic
 397 avr 07 23:01:53 <jurgentje>	moment
 398 avr 07 23:02:03 <RamiAdrien>	okay
 399 avr 07 23:02:09 <jean7491>	imho is better, just one detail, no contact between red bar and bottom colored line (is the limit of the design): a few cm. higher
 400 avr 07 23:02:15 <RamiAdrien>	if you can send me your source i can try to work on it to
 401 avr 07 23:02:23 <jurgentje>	source is online
 402 avr 07 23:02:23 <RamiAdrien>	to give some proposals
 403 avr 07 23:02:29 <massimo21>	good night
 404 avr 07 23:02:31 <massimo21>	;-)
 405 avr 07 23:02:35 <clamam>	good night
 406 avr 07 23:02:40 *	massimo21 (~massimo21@91.176.183.6) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 407 avr 07 23:02:40 <jean7491>	bye massimo21
 408 avr 07 23:03:04 <RamiAdrien>	oh sorry i don't scroll back enough :p
 409 avr 07 23:03:21 <jurgentje>	you know... getting a little annoyed... is 5th time now that I tweak my flyer... and some little detail has to change... and the week after... something else has to change.
 410 avr 07 23:03:37 <jurgentje>	I've made mine. If you want to change... go ahead. But I'm done with it.
 411 avr 07 23:04:02 <jean7491>	other comment about rollups ?
 412 avr 07 23:04:04 <jurgentje>	Every week someone says: "maybe just change this little thingie"
 413 avr 07 23:04:25 <RamiAdrien>	You right maybe start thinking to say ok it's done
 414 avr 07 23:04:27 <RamiAdrien>	:)
 415 avr 07 23:04:40 <woutervddn>	you're right jurgen.. it's easy to ask someone else to change things :)
 416 avr 07 23:04:58 <woutervddn>	I think we're all lazy.. :)
 417 avr 07 23:05:20 <jean7491>	enough about rollups, next topic # 3. update wiki and  web-site
 418 avr 07 23:05:21 <jurgentje>	I already changed background twice, and revamped all the icons...
 419 avr 07 23:05:25 <jurgentje>	next topic
 420 avr 07 23:05:34 <jean7491>	wiki:   suggestions?
 421 avr 07 23:07:11 <jean7491>	if no suggestion, about  web-site :is there comment about the proposal to add links to other foss and look alike associations or lugs ?
 422 avr 07 23:07:20 <jean7491>	Working paper is here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/LinksToAssociations
 423 avr 07 23:08:13 <jurgentje>	So if I understand it correctly, groups like HCC don't belong there?
 424 avr 07 23:08:28 <clamam>	good night to every one
 425 avr 07 23:08:37 <jurgentje>	(even though they're a steady value on our Dipro and often supply over half of the team of a Dipro stand?)
 426 avr 07 23:08:39 <jean7491>	bye clamam
 427 avr 07 23:08:42 <jurgentje>	goodnight clamam
 428 avr 07 23:08:42 *	clamam (~claudio@d54C1F8A5.access.telenet.be) a quitté #ubuntu-be
 429 avr 07 23:09:35 <jean7491>	about hcc, no idea, it is about promoting ubuntu and foss
 430 avr 07 23:09:53 <jurgentje>	I mean, they offer support for Ubuntu on their evenings
 431 avr 07 23:10:06 <jurgentje>	and lots of people got helped by them - but they're not a LUG
 432 avr 07 23:10:20 <jurgentje>	since they're not linux-exclusive
 433 avr 07 23:10:23 <RamiAdrien>	sorry it's late, what mean hcc?
 434 avr 07 23:10:32 <jurgentje>	HCC = hobby computerclub
 435 avr 07 23:10:37 <RamiAdrien>	okay :)
 436 avr 07 23:10:43 <woutervddn>	jurgentje.. I understand your point...
 437 avr 07 23:10:47 <jurgentje>	club in Mechelen & Brussels (and huge in Netherlands)
 438 avr 07 23:11:00 <JanC>	if they have an Ubuntu/linux workgroup and/or Ubuntu events, why not?
 439 avr 07 23:11:03 <jurgentje>	idem: in Antwerp on weekend, we were sharing with some other computerclub
 440 avr 07 23:11:14 <woutervddn>	 but I think that in a caroussel of links from one FOSS group to an other HCC would be weird..
 441 avr 07 23:11:21 <jurgentje>	in Hassels, we have Bitmappers who organise a lot of release parties...
 442 avr 07 23:11:50 <woutervddn>	hmm.. does HCC have a workgroup like that?
 443 avr 07 23:11:57 <jurgentje>	none of those are LUG's ... all of them clearly support Ubuntu
 444 avr 07 23:11:58 <JanC>	we can explain what peopel can expect from each linked association
 445 avr 07 23:12:21 <jean7491>	add it to the working paper, it is not a paper about already made decisions
 446 avr 07 23:12:42 <jurgentje>	"Computer clubs offering ubuntu-support" could be an item on the list
 447 avr 07 23:12:52 <RamiAdrien>	yes good idea
 448 avr 07 23:12:58 <jean7491>	ok
 449 avr 07 23:13:07 <RamiAdrien>	for wallonie i know only Lugs or Free Software Group
 450 avr 07 23:13:11 <woutervddn>	making a seperation between them isn't a big deal so indeed..
 451 avr 07 23:13:25 <jurgentje>	and then again... some LUG's are pretty hardcore (Gentoo) or Fedora-oriented (I think the VUB LUG f.e. is pretty Fedora based)
 452 avr 07 23:13:27 <woutervddn>	imo they can be on the page but mixing them up with real lugs isn't a good idea..
 453 avr 07 23:13:54 <jurgentje>	do they belong on an ubuntu page?
 454 avr 07 23:14:17 <woutervddn>	jurgen, the page isn't about ubuntu, it's about the open-source movement..
 455 avr 07 23:14:47 <jurgentje>	ah, okay. but the site is about ubuntu :) (but I get your point, and I actually agree if you put it like that)
 456 avr 07 23:14:49 <RamiAdrien>	Or we can make a separation between FOSS and Ubuntu
 457 avr 07 23:15:05 <jean7491>	feel free to add your ideas in the wiki-page ...
 458 avr 07 23:15:23 <woutervddn>	other distro's aren't our competitors, it are our colleagues, that's what differenciates us from closed source projects..
 459 avr 07 23:15:25 <jurgentje>	hehe... as always :)
 460 avr 07 23:16:13 <jurgentje>	yeah, I know... open & closed source.
 461 avr 07 23:16:18 <woutervddn>	while talking about the website, I'm getting really frustrated this week about my editing rights :O
 462 avr 07 23:16:50 <jurgentje>	Basically, I'd say: don't overcomplicate the procedures for a simple page. We don't have a whole "wiki maintenance" team
 463 avr 07 23:17:01 <woutervddn>	It's the 2nd or 3rd day in a row that I stumble up on yet another page where I can't change the content in one or more languages..
 464 avr 07 23:17:42 <jean7491>	sorry, editing rights is not an issue for this meeting , ...
 465 avr 07 23:17:44 <jurgentje>	well... I still can't log in on ubuntu-be.org ... so I'm not able to do a thing in there (can't even change my own settings in the support point map)
 466 avr 07 23:17:55 <jurgentje>	but we're talking about wiki here?
 467 avr 07 23:18:09 <woutervddn>	jean: it's not that I don't have them, but it's just that they don't work..
 468 avr 07 23:18:24 <jean7491>	i thought it was done with the wiki
 469 avr 07 23:20:27 <jean7491>	"I still can't log in on ubuntu-be.org" jurgentje, i suggest you ask to JanC or mongolito404 !
 470 avr 07 23:20:52 <jurgentje>	did so last week and the week before :p
 471 avr 07 23:21:12 <jurgentje>	oops... the 2 weeks before that (since I wasn't here last 2 times)
 472 avr 07 23:21:41 <jean7491>	@ woutervddn editing rights ? i suppose problem to see with mongolito404 ?
 473 avr 07 23:22:37 <woutervddn>	yeah but I was hoping on someone else who would react and give the solution for this problem :p
 474 avr 07 23:22:51 <jean7491>	jurgentje, i cann't help you, i'm only a home-user, no tech. skill
 475 avr 07 23:23:22 <jurgentje>	no probs... I'll try getting it up with mongolito... I've been mailing since November about this :p
 476 avr 07 23:23:30 <JanC>	jurgentje: what OpenID URL did you set?
 477 avr 07 23:23:39 <jurgentje>	launchpad
 478 avr 07 23:23:49 <jurgentje>	jurgen-gaeremyn   - email: jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be
 479 avr 07 23:24:06 <JanC>	but what URL on Launchpad ?
 480 avr 07 23:24:21 <JanC>	the OpenID plugin we have is rather picky  :-(
 481 avr 07 23:24:36 <JanC>	well, has a bug probably
 482 avr 07 23:24:49 <jean7491>	jurgentje , please go through pm with JanC, we continue the meeting
 483 avr 07 23:24:51 <jurgentje>	well... it worked in the very beginning
 484 avr 07 23:24:53 <jurgentje>	okay
 485 avr 07 23:25:08 <jean7491>	next topic # 4. things living in the mailing list and others questions not in the agenda ?
 486 avr 07 23:25:18 <jean7491>	 item # 1 -  laying some foundations or ubuntu-be needs a structure and an organization
 487 avr 07 23:25:22 <JanC>	hm, I have no rights for user administration anyway
 488 avr 07 23:26:00 <jean7491>	 notes about are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/TeamOrganization
 489 avr 07 23:26:53 <jean7491>	a lot of comment are already in, feel free to contribute, ... and add 25/04 viloorde in your agenda
 490 avr 07 23:27:09 <jean7491>	are there comment on this issue ?
 491 avr 07 23:27:46 <jurgentje>	I have very little response about who is actually coming. I need mails to confirm.
 492 avr 07 23:29:45 <RamiAdrien>	for Sylvain and I the 25/04 it's not possible for usb
 493 avr 07 23:29:48 <RamiAdrien>	us*
 494 avr 07 23:30:06 <woutervddn>	jurgen, did you include me as present?
 495 avr 07 23:30:16 <jean7491>	@ jurgentje , you have my answer
 496 avr 07 23:30:20 <RamiAdrien>	the 23/04 it's not possible more easy for us to come on Sulnday
 497 avr 07 23:30:24 <RamiAdrien>	sunday*
 498 avr 07 23:30:49 <jurgentje>	Sunday is Easter Sunday: much people go to family then
 499 avr 07 23:31:00 <jurgentje>	Monday is a little less "family day" I think
 500 avr 07 23:31:19 <jurgentje>	Anyways, I just picked a date and launched it.
 501 avr 07 23:31:25 <RamiAdrien>	It's not Easter Monday?
 502 avr 07 23:31:30 <jurgentje>	yep, it is
 503 avr 07 23:31:47 <jurgentje>	but I think this is less "family-ish" than the Sunday
 504 avr 07 23:32:00 <RamiAdrien>	I understand :)
 505 avr 07 23:32:12 <jurgentje>	so there's no "chiro" and other regular Sunday stuff
 506 avr 07 23:32:15 <woutervddn>	clamam & massimo told me that when you are italian: "easter monday is as important as easter itself.. they'd kill us if we wouldn't be with our family"
 507 avr 07 23:32:16 <RamiAdrien>	if we find a solution or the program change for us we will come
 508 avr 07 23:32:35 <RamiAdrien>	mmmmh cultural affair
 509 avr 07 23:32:46 <woutervddn>	silly italians ;) :p
 510 avr 07 23:32:51 <RamiAdrien>	:p
 511 avr 07 23:33:05 <jurgentje>	pity. But I think next time we then pick a Saturday or so... but let's stick to 25th now
 512 avr 07 23:33:49 <woutervddn>	indeed..
 513 avr 07 23:33:51 <jurgentje>	But if it's a comfort... we'll have Pizza... that's Italian too ;)
 514 avr 07 23:34:00 <RamiAdrien>	lol
 515 avr 07 23:34:51 <woutervddn>	xD lol
 516 avr 07 23:35:30 <jean7491>	other comment ?
 517 avr 07 23:35:50 <RamiAdrien>	how about eating spaghetti this day? :p
 518 avr 07 23:36:17 <RamiAdrien>	If we have change Sylvain and I we will notice about it
 519 avr 07 23:36:25 <RamiAdrien>	but for the moment we can't come :/
 520 avr 07 23:37:03 <jean7491>	 other comment ?
 521 avr 07 23:37:09 <jurgentje>	too bad. but we'll order pîzza in... not making spaghetti (or maybe we will... just pondering the idea)
 522 avr 07 23:37:32 <jean7491>	next item # 2 - membership belgian loco team on launchpad 
 523 avr 07 23:37:40 <jean7491>	welcome to a new member  JL (rammstan in launchpad) 
 524 avr 07 23:37:48 <jean7491>	does anyone know him ?
 525 avr 07 23:39:13 <RamiAdrien>	unfotunately not :/
 526 avr 07 23:39:25 <jurgentje>	nope
 527 avr 07 23:40:08 <woutervddn>	probeer eens Jurgentje..
 528 avr 07 23:40:18 <woutervddn>	als-be account..
 529 avr 07 23:40:22 <jurgentje>	lol... wrong window ;)
 530 avr 07 23:40:30 *	woutervddn just noticed I was in wrong window -_-'
 531 avr 07 23:41:36 <jean7491>	JanC : it is a pity we do not know who are new members of the loco team! do you now this member ?
 532 avr 07 23:42:04 <jean7491>	JanC : do you know this member ?
 533 avr 07 23:42:56 <JanC>	not sure, "JL" could be Jonas ?
 534 avr 07 23:43:05 <woutervddn>	I noticed a pending user on the launchpad aswel..
 535 avr 07 23:44:05 <JanC>	Jonas from JLSolutions who will help Sunday?
 536 avr 07 23:45:31 <jean7491>	no idea, ask sunday to jonas, but about the principle, new members should be known by other members of the loco team
 537 avr 07 23:46:16 <woutervddn>	jean, I must say that I didn't know anyone when I first joined U-be.. but an introduction on the ML would be handy :p
 538 avr 07 23:46:46 <jean7491>	idd
 539 avr 07 23:47:01 <JanC>	I think we need to allow everybody to the/a LP (sub)team somehow
 540 avr 07 23:47:25 <JanC>	but let's discuss that at the IRL meeting or such, it's way too late now
 541 avr 07 23:47:42 <jean7491>	ok we continue with item #3 - others questions not in the agenda ? 
 542 avr 07 23:47:43 *	JanC goes to bed
 543 avr 07 23:48:09 <jean7491>	if no question, ... last topic, next irc meeting ? on thursday 14/04/2011 at 21 h. ?
 544 avr 07 23:48:50 <RamiAdrien>	(pictures and video of la foire du libre on the wiki)
 545 avr 07 23:49:19 <jean7491>	ok
 546 avr 07 23:50:05 <woutervddn>	ok for me :)
 547 avr 07 23:50:37 <jurgentje>	ok
 548 avr 07 23:51:42 <jean7491>	end of meeting - thanks to all for your participation, have a good night !