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Download 1 2009-03-25 19:17:05 * mongolito404 (n=pbuyle@ip-83-134-193-13.dsl.scarlet.be) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
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3 2009-03-25 19:45:12 * pvandewyngaerde (n=pvandewy@33.212-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
4 2009-03-25 19:56:55 <pvandewyngaerde> goeienavond
5 2009-03-25 20:09:05 <siegie> goeienavond
6 2009-03-25 20:13:29 <rulus> hallo
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11 2009-03-25 20:42:17 <JanC> hello all ツ
12 2009-03-25 20:44:21 <rulus> ik moet helaas weg, zal het straks wel lezen
13 2009-03-25 20:45:19 * Hello (n=matthew@78-22-231-251.access.telenet.be) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
14 2009-03-25 20:45:34 * Hello is nu bekend als Guest68572
15 2009-03-25 20:46:05 <Guest68572> Anybody any idea how to set your nickname?
16 2009-03-25 20:46:22 <pvandewyngaerde> /nick newnick
17 2009-03-25 20:46:33 <Guest68572> Nickname already in use
18 2009-03-25 20:46:48 * Guest68572 is nu bekend als MatthewDeb
19 2009-03-25 20:46:49 <pvandewyngaerde> /nick othernick
20 2009-03-25 20:46:52 <MatthewDeb> lol xD
21 2009-03-25 20:46:58 <pvandewyngaerde> dag MatthewDeb
22 2009-03-25 20:47:02 <MatthewDeb> hoi!
23 2009-03-25 20:47:56 <MatthewDeb> Er is nog veel volk voor vanavond?
24 2009-03-25 20:48:30 * jean7491 (n=jm@79.132.234.60) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
25 2009-03-25 20:50:28 <MatthewDeb> Hey Jean!
26 2009-03-25 20:50:47 * warddr (n=warddr@Wikipedia/Warddr) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
27 2009-03-25 20:50:57 <jean7491> Hey, alles ok?
28 2009-03-25 20:51:03 <MatthewDeb> ja hoor :)
29 2009-03-25 20:51:31 <warddr> binnen een paar minuten beginnen we eraan..
30 2009-03-25 20:53:23 <MatthewDeb> Il y a des gens francophones ici?
31 2009-03-25 20:54:04 <MatthewDeb> jean à l'exception :p
32 2009-03-25 20:54:09 <warddr> on va parler l'Anglais je crois.. Je ne suis pas francophone mais je comprends le français
33 2009-03-25 20:54:16 <jean7491> oui moi, maar ok
34 2009-03-25 20:55:11 <MatthewDeb> @warddr ik ben ook geen franstalige hoor, maar het was even om te checken wie er eigenlijk allemaal aanwezig is en welke taal het meest actief wordt gebruikt
35 2009-03-25 20:55:32 <MatthewDeb> als toch iedereen NL spreekt, zouden we deze meeting ook in het NL kunnen doen
36 2009-03-25 20:55:34 <pvandewyngaerde> nl++
37 2009-03-25 20:55:54 <JanC> nope, other people will read the logs
38 2009-03-25 20:56:01 <MatthewDeb> okay then
39 2009-03-25 20:56:07 <jean7491> ok, maar geen sms-taaltje
40 2009-03-25 20:56:11 <warddr> where are the logs?
41 2009-03-25 20:56:28 <JanC> e.g. mongolito404 said he wouldn't be here probably
42 2009-03-25 20:56:56 <JanC> warddr: on their & my & your hard disk probably ;)
43 2009-03-25 20:56:56 <warddr> don't they understand Dutch?
44 2009-03-25 20:57:21 <warddr> but this channel isn't logged like #ubuntu-nl?
45 2009-03-25 20:57:25 <JanC> it's also about being polite
46 2009-03-25 20:57:30 <JanC> no it's not logged
47 2009-03-25 20:57:48 <JanC> maybe a good idea to have a logbot for meetings
48 2009-03-25 20:57:52 <JanC> in the future
49 2009-03-25 20:58:22 <warddr> let's put it on the agenda
50 2009-03-25 21:01:01 <warddr> START!
51 2009-03-25 21:01:11 <JanC> BTW, the "agenda" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetingAgenda is very unstructured currently, maybe next time we'll have to define more clearly what to talk about and what not
52 2009-03-25 21:01:51 <JanC> that would be item #1 on the todo list ツ
53 2009-03-25 21:02:26 <JanC> anyway, jean7491 proposed to first discuss the meeting times for the future
54 2009-03-25 21:03:04 <JanC> on the list it was proposed to have a meeting every week, but not on the same day/time
55 2009-03-25 21:03:36 <JanC> what would be good days & times do you all think?
56 2009-03-25 21:04:10 <MatthewDeb> well, every week would be a bit to frequent. I don't know if we will have enough stuff to talk about?
57 2009-03-25 21:04:39 <siegie> The dutch team for example meets, once a month
58 2009-03-25 21:04:39 <jean7491> or 1 meeting per week but spraid in 2 sessions/days, there are enough topics
59 2009-03-25 21:05:05 * iceman (n=iceman@208.249-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
60 2009-03-25 21:05:06 <warddr> I still think it's better to use the mailinglist to discuss this kind of things
61 2009-03-25 21:05:06 <JanC> MatthewDeb: we can make it less often later, but for now I propose every week
62 2009-03-25 21:05:14 <pvandewyngaerde> once a month
63 2009-03-25 21:05:30 <JanC> just to get things started
64 2009-03-25 21:05:49 <JanC> otherwise everybody will wait for 3,5 weeks before doing anything ;)
65 2009-03-25 21:06:10 <jean7491> first how reach more people via IRC
66 2009-03-25 21:06:49 <siegie> you don't have to wait till the meeting to do anything, you can also communicate via wiki.
67 2009-03-25 21:07:04 <JanC> siegie: except that currently that doesn't happen
68 2009-03-25 21:07:36 * iceman heeft verlaten (Client Quit)
69 2009-03-25 21:07:38 <JanC> so, first: when are the good meeting times for most people? ;)
70 2009-03-25 21:08:10 <MatthewDeb> that's true. There weren't a lot of comments on the fact about this meeting, but there are a lot of people actually online. People read and are curious about what happens, but being part of it is something completely different
71 2009-03-25 21:08:41 <MatthewDeb> well, Wednesdays are perfect for me, sometimes in the late evening
72 2009-03-25 21:08:45 <MatthewDeb> like now :p
73 2009-03-25 21:08:46 <JanC> some people are just idling here
74 2009-03-25 21:09:06 <warddr> I don't know what to say at the moment :d
75 2009-03-25 21:09:27 <jean7491> no preference for the day (except tuesday), time 21 hr. ok
76 2009-03-25 21:09:49 * t-Omicr0n (n=tom@64.145-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
77 2009-03-25 21:09:51 <pvandewyngaerde> same like jean7491 for me
78 2009-03-25 21:10:13 <warddr> 21 hr. is ok for me
79 2009-03-25 21:10:19 <MatthewDeb> to be less specific. I like the hour, but the day shouldn't be in the weekends (Friday - Sunday) for me
80 2009-03-25 21:10:21 <siegie> i would preffer friday or saturday in the early evening, but who am I :p
81 2009-03-25 21:10:23 <DarkEra> Doesn't matter to me i'm always around and most active in the evening
82 2009-03-25 21:10:58 <JanC> I was just thinking, maybe some people prefer the weekends?
83 2009-03-25 21:11:11 <warddr> I agree with MatthewDeb
84 2009-03-25 21:11:57 <t-Omicr0n> I proposed the weekend, since I've got a lot of time then, but I can also make the week.
85 2009-03-25 21:11:58 <JanC> OTOH, if everybody here prefers the week, we can just keep it on Wednesday evening of course
86 2009-03-25 21:12:20 <jean7491> ok
87 2009-03-25 21:12:25 <MatthewDeb> Can't you create a poll on the wiki?
88 2009-03-25 21:12:27 <t-Omicr0n> keep in mind that the people that can't make it during the week are not here today :)
89 2009-03-25 21:12:38 <t-Omicr0n> MatthewDeb: I like that idea
90 2009-03-25 21:12:43 <JanC> t-Omicr0n: good point
91 2009-03-25 21:12:53 <MatthewDeb> Like I proposed by mail: maybe one week on Wednesday, the other week on Saturday
92 2009-03-25 21:13:18 <MatthewDeb> so you always will have different people who have other or new ideas
93 2009-03-25 21:13:22 <JanC> so, when is the next meeting then: next Sunday?
94 2009-03-25 21:13:29 <t-Omicr0n> Agreed.
95 2009-03-25 21:13:33 <JanC> or Saturday
96 2009-03-25 21:13:56 <JanC> what would be best, Sat or Sun?
97 2009-03-25 21:13:57 <MatthewDeb> Sunday at 21 could work, but I could be a bit late then
98 2009-03-25 21:14:11 <MatthewDeb> I prefer Sunday
99 2009-03-25 21:14:22 <pvandewyngaerde> sunday, on the time change
100 2009-03-25 21:14:39 <t-Omicr0n> Me to, Sun will also catch those people who go out on Saturday. I think it's a "sit at home" night for most.
101 2009-03-25 21:14:52 <JanC> time change?
102 2009-03-25 21:14:57 <warddr> that's a fact, t-Omicr0n
103 2009-03-25 21:15:28 <JanC> some people go to their "kot" on Sunday evening
104 2009-03-25 21:15:44 <JanC> but as MatthewDeb says, maybe they can get on-line by 21h or a bit later
105 2009-03-25 21:16:07 <MatthewDeb> I arrive at home on Sunday at 20h45
106 2009-03-25 21:16:39 <JanC> then 21h shouldn't be a real problem I guess
107 2009-03-25 21:17:13 <JanC> do we agree on next Sunday 29/3 at 21h then?
108 2009-03-25 21:17:21 <jean7491> ok
109 2009-03-25 21:17:29 <t-Omicr0n> ok
110 2009-03-25 21:17:45 <pvandewyngaerde> ok
111 2009-03-25 21:18:03 <warddr> I probably can't make it but I'll read the logs (if someone can sent them to me) and I'll be there next meeting$
112 2009-03-25 21:18:15 <warddr> for me no problem to skip once
113 2009-03-25 21:18:26 <MatthewDeb> ok
114 2009-03-25 21:18:40 <t-Omicr0n> Can we auto-log this ? That way, people who can't make it on time can catch up.
115 2009-03-25 21:18:52 <JanC> t-Omicr0n: I log it locally
116 2009-03-25 21:18:53 <siegie> i'm also not sure but, will try
117 2009-03-25 21:19:16 <JanC> but as we discussed before the meeting, we could pull in a bot for the meeting too
118 2009-03-25 21:19:31 <warddr> but why only for the meeting?
119 2009-03-25 21:19:51 <JanC> why would you want public logs otherwise?
120 2009-03-25 21:20:02 <warddr> why not?$
121 2009-03-25 21:20:23 <JanC> well, e.g. it requires people to be warned about it
122 2009-03-25 21:20:42 <warddr> how many words are said here when there is no meeting..
123 2009-03-25 21:20:58 <JanC> and sometimes peopel say stupid things they don't want to be stored on the web forever
124 2009-03-25 21:21:40 <warddr> we can keep the logs for a couple of weeks and then remove them
125 2009-03-25 21:22:23 <JanC> I'd prefer no logs unless a majority wants them
126 2009-03-25 21:22:46 <JanC> (logs for the meetings is okay though)
127 2009-03-25 21:23:02 <warddr> let's vote on the wiki
128 2009-03-25 21:23:30 <t-Omicr0n> I agree, during the meeting, otherwise it doesn't matter for me. A vote sounds fine. Who will set it up ?
129 2009-03-25 21:23:41 <JanC> AFAIK you can't do votes on the wiki?
130 2009-03-25 21:24:29 <MatthewDeb> I would say yes to permanent logging. They always come in handy. Let's say I'm discussing something tomorrow about a new great idea. Nobody will know except the people who were online and you could use it for later purposes or to quote in future meetings
131 2009-03-25 21:24:32 <warddr> why not? Just start a wiki page, write the word pro and the word contra and people should write there name
132 2009-03-25 21:25:07 <JanC> MatthewDeb: if I'm here, I have logs, which is almost 24/7 ;)
133 2009-03-25 21:25:31 <JanC> anyway, we could also log non-publicly maybe
134 2009-03-25 21:26:17 <JanC> MatthewDeb: but if you want people to read something, it's better to mail the list anyway
135 2009-03-25 21:26:18 <warddr> so you reccomand everyone to let their computer on 24/7 to make their own logs?
136 2009-03-25 21:26:29 <t-Omicr0n> :)
137 2009-03-25 21:27:13 <t-Omicr0n> Does everyone agree to vote on this ?
138 2009-03-25 21:27:22 <JanC> warddr: will you read the logs everyday if they are on some website somewhere?
139 2009-03-25 21:27:26 <pvandewyngaerde> copy log to the mailing list
140 2009-03-25 21:28:09 <JanC> pvandewyngaerde: that's what I would propose for those who want to discuss something with more people
141 2009-03-25 21:28:12 <warddr> JanC, probably not, but I sometimes use the logs of ubuntu-nl to read the answers to my questions one more time
142 2009-03-25 21:28:32 <JanC> pvandewyngaerde: that and/or put it on the agenda with a link to the log
143 2009-03-25 21:28:38 <warddr> pvandewyngaerde, problem: the mailinlist is publicly logged
144 2009-03-25 21:28:46 <mongolito404> what about publishing the log on the meeting wiki page along with a debriefing ?
145 2009-03-25 21:29:16 <JanC> mongolito404: I intended to post the log I make now
146 2009-03-25 21:29:18 <warddr> is there anyone who disagree with pulishing the log of this meeting?
147 2009-03-25 21:29:42 <JanC> warddr: now your talking about the meeting...
148 2009-03-25 21:29:54 <MatthewDeb> you can read the mailing list on the internet too, so that would be public too
149 2009-03-25 21:30:10 <JanC> MatthewDeb: which is indicated when you subscribe
150 2009-03-25 21:30:21 <MatthewDeb> I don't have problems with logs at all. I'm used to it. If you participate, you need to follow the 'rules'
151 2009-03-25 21:30:40 <JanC> it's about logging this channel publicly 24/7
152 2009-03-25 21:31:08 <JanC> which I don't think is needed
153 2009-03-25 21:31:39 <MatthewDeb> public: no. private: yes
154 2009-03-25 21:32:01 <MatthewDeb> I don't mind logging 24/7, as long as that doesn't get public
155 2009-03-25 21:32:09 <mongolito404> I don't see the point of logging this channel 25/7. If you feel that something said has to be knowm by those who aren't here, you'll better publish it on the ML or the wiki.
156 2009-03-25 21:32:49 <mongolito404> private logging of a public channel ?
157 2009-03-25 21:32:49 <JanC> the channel already is logged 24/7 privately by several people anyway
158 2009-03-25 21:33:47 <JanC> (it's how your IRC client shows previous discussions if you open a channel)
159 2009-03-25 21:34:04 <warddr> and are these people willing to share parts of their logs is someone asks for them?
160 2009-03-25 21:34:15 <mongolito404> probably
161 2009-03-25 21:34:25 <JanC> at least I won't care
162 2009-03-25 21:36:15 <jean7491> is it ok for thr logs
163 2009-03-25 21:36:56 <warddr> jean7491, i think we can move on to the next subject
164 2009-03-25 21:37:19 <jean7491> i understand : we agreed on next meeting sunday 29/3 at 21 hr., ... do we agreed on the sequence. wed. 01/04 (not a joke), ... sun. 05/04 ...
165 2009-03-25 21:37:37 <JanC> I think we can bring this topic up on the mailing list (but it really only concerns people who are on IRC)
166 2009-03-25 21:37:55 <jean7491> ok for me
167 2009-03-25 21:38:00 <mongolito404> where will the meetings be announced ? The list ? Google calendar ?
168 2009-03-25 21:38:13 <JanC> I meant the logging topic
169 2009-03-25 21:38:47 <JanC> mongolito404: the list, the wiki page and the website would be good too
170 2009-03-25 21:38:47 <t-Omicr0n> We can add them to Google Calender, which will then send reminders to the list.
171 2009-03-25 21:39:12 <JanC> I'd prefer a calendar on the site over a google calendar
172 2009-03-25 21:39:15 <MatthewDeb> this topic, don't post it on the mailing list. Most people won't care about it, I suppose
173 2009-03-25 21:39:28 <MatthewDeb> just put it again on the agenda for next week. Other people, other opinions
174 2009-03-25 21:39:28 <JanC> what topic MatthewDeb ?
175 2009-03-25 21:39:35 <MatthewDeb> the logging topic
176 2009-03-25 21:41:03 <JanC> jean7491: let's just start with Sunday, and then see if next week Wednesday is needed or not
177 2009-03-25 21:41:19 <mongolito404> Can we consider meetings as events convered by the ''Promote Ubuntu-be Events on Website'' blueprint ?
178 2009-03-25 21:41:56 <JanC> mongolito404: well, at least they should be announced on the site and in a calendar or such
179 2009-03-25 21:42:51 <JanC> mongolito404: I think Drupal has a sort of agenda module that can export to iCal and/or RSS or something like that?
180 2009-03-25 21:43:03 <t-Omicr0n> JanC: that would be great
181 2009-03-25 21:43:23 <JanC> BTW, mongolito404's blueprint is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Website/Events
182 2009-03-25 21:43:24 <mongolito404> There is the ''events'' module which look deprecated and not available for Drupal 6
183 2009-03-25 21:43:45 <mongolito404> But there is the Date and Calendar modules which I plan to use
184 2009-03-25 21:46:00 <siegie> keep it simple so everyone can edit it. for example a wiki?
185 2009-03-25 21:46:14 <JanC> maybe we should ask people what they tink they would want from something like this (= use cases)
186 2009-03-25 21:46:26 <JanC> and at the same time see what these modules have to offer
187 2009-03-25 21:46:42 <JanC> siegie: wiki's don't export to iCal or RSS or whatever
188 2009-03-25 21:47:14 <JanC> but having more site editors would probably be good
189 2009-03-25 21:47:17 <mongolito404> That's the point of the blueprint.... gather use cases
190 2009-03-25 21:47:49 <siegie> JanC: okey if we have more site editors,
191 2009-03-25 21:47:50 <JanC> mongolito404: yes, so we need to ask people to add there comments on this
192 2009-03-25 21:48:45 <JanC> s/there/their/
193 2009-03-25 21:48:48 <mongolito404> Editors (ie. people with permission to edit page on the website) are now managed through launchpad
194 2009-03-25 21:49:20 <JanC> as is explained on that page: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be-webeditor
195 2009-03-25 21:51:22 <JanC> mongolito404: do you know already what's possible with those date & calendar modules (and what not)?
196 2009-03-25 21:51:31 <mongolito404> The current proposition in the blueprint is to allow any member of the ubuntu-belgium team to add/edit/delete their own events.
197 2009-03-25 21:51:56 <mongolito404> while members of the ubuntu-be-webeditor team will be able to edit all events
198 2009-03-25 21:52:06 <JanC> that sounds san
199 2009-03-25 21:52:21 <JanC> so webeditors can also add translations & such
200 2009-03-25 21:52:41 <JanC> and remove inappropriate stuff
201 2009-03-25 21:52:52 <mongolito404> See http://www.drupaltherapy.com/node/76 for a demo of the setup of the Date and Calendar module
202 2009-03-25 21:53:14 <mongolito404> At this time, i think that everything in the blueprint is covered.
203 2009-03-25 21:53:59 <JanC> I'll look at it after the meeting, and we can ask others to have a look at it too
204 2009-03-25 21:54:18 <MatthewDeb> Hey, I'm sorry, but I'm force to go. I will check the logs afterwards and mail my opinion about it
205 2009-03-25 21:54:20 <MatthewDeb> byebye!
206 2009-03-25 21:54:20 <mongolito404> JanC: Yes that's the point. Editors will help to clean and translate others' content
207 2009-03-25 21:54:37 <JanC> sounds sane to me
208 2009-03-25 21:54:41 <pvandewyngaerde> i just joined the webeditor group on launchpad
209 2009-03-25 21:54:44 * MatthewDeb heeft verlaten ()
210 2009-03-25 21:54:46 <JanC> it also means we need to set a policy
211 2009-03-25 21:55:02 <mongolito404> yes
212 2009-03-25 21:55:17 <JanC> what's appropriate and what not
213 2009-03-25 21:55:29 <mongolito404> yes we will need tto do that
214 2009-03-25 21:55:30 <JanC> one more thing for a future meeting
215 2009-03-25 21:57:09 <mongolito404> pvandewyngaerde: you are now a member of the web editor team
216 2009-03-25 21:58:25 <mongolito404> The policy for the web editor team could be drafted on the wiki
217 2009-03-25 21:58:40 <JanC> I think that in general everybody is okay with putting events (both internal to ubuntu-be & other events related to Ubuntu) on the site?
218 2009-03-25 21:59:00 <pvandewyngaerde> yes
219 2009-03-25 21:59:44 <JanC> and we can discuss things like policy & details on the list a bit before we actually implement it
220 2009-03-25 22:00:16 <mongolito404> I'll use the blue print as a checklist of the features to implements, be suure to add your wishes to it.
221 2009-03-25 22:00:59 <jean7491> I suppose everybody = member of ubuntu-belgium team, but what if you are not (so am I)
222 2009-03-25 22:01:17 <JanC> mongolito404: yeah, I'd say people can add needs, and then we can remove them during a future meeting if they are not needed (now) and would complicate things
223 2009-03-25 22:01:49 <JanC> jean7491: it's easy to become a member
224 2009-03-25 22:02:04 <mongolito404> jean7491: membership of ubuntu=belgium is currently an issue. Mark vdb is currently the only one who can accept subscription
225 2009-03-25 22:02:33 <mongolito404> I contact him on this point to see if I can transfer ownership of the team to somebody else
226 2009-03-25 22:02:53 <jean7491> no acceptation since november 2008 (20 waiting)
227 2009-03-25 22:03:11 <JanC> he's very busy currently
228 2009-03-25 22:03:14 <mongolito404> jean7491: Yep, I saw this
229 2009-03-25 22:03:22 <JanC> I can try to contact him too
230 2009-03-25 22:03:46 <JanC> mongolito404: did you contact him already?
231 2009-03-25 22:03:52 <mongolito404> yes I did
232 2009-03-25 22:04:14 <JanC> okay, if he doesn't answer fast enough, I can phone him
233 2009-03-25 22:04:54 <JanC> good point to tell that jean7491
234 2009-03-25 22:05:22 <pvandewyngaerde> jean7491: do you have pictures of the dipro booths ?
235 2009-03-25 22:05:31 <mongolito404> Should he transfer ownership to me or make me admin of the team, I'll announce it on the ML
236 2009-03-25 22:05:39 <mongolito404> And clear the queue
237 2009-03-25 22:05:48 <JanC> great
238 2009-03-25 22:06:58 <jean7491> yes, Pieter, 3-4 pictures, I can send it to you, if you wish
239 2009-03-25 22:08:25 <pvandewyngaerde> is there a report on the wiki where you can add them ?
240 2009-03-25 22:09:58 <mongolito404> For the future, do we want to allow ubuntu-be member to add comment and pictures to an events to tthe website ?
241 2009-03-25 22:10:44 <JanC> mongolito404: good point, sounds useful
242 2009-03-25 22:10:51 <jean7491> for pieter : for the moment, no, I don't know how to create page ad-hoc
243 2009-03-25 22:11:33 <JanC> jean7491: just enter a new URL on the wiki and it will ask if you want to create it
244 2009-03-25 22:11:50 <JanC> or make a link to it and then click the link
245 2009-03-25 22:12:22 <JanC> mongolito404: you mean by using comments, right?
246 2009-03-25 22:13:16 <JanC> is it possible to add pictures to comments?
247 2009-03-25 22:13:22 <mongolito404> JanC: probably, or by creating a new node linked to the node for the event
248 2009-03-25 22:14:04 <JanC> the later option more like a link to sort of a "news article"?
249 2009-03-25 22:14:11 <mongolito404> Yes
250 2009-03-25 22:14:37 <mongolito404> Something like an article for the event and an article for the report on the event
251 2009-03-25 22:17:54 <jean7491> i have to experiment with the wiki ! ... are we ready for next topic ? which one ?
252 2009-03-25 22:18:12 <JanC> how much time to people have for more topics?
253 2009-03-25 22:18:16 <JanC> do
254 2009-03-25 22:18:49 <mongolito404> what are these topics ?
255 2009-03-25 22:19:13 <t-Omicr0n> I don't have much time, have to get up at 6...
256 2009-03-25 22:19:26 <JanC> depends on what people want to get discussed *now* I guess
257 2009-03-25 22:19:48 <mongolito404> Has the use of the support point database been discussed ?
258 2009-03-25 22:20:32 <JanC> not yet, I was going to propose it as next topic if nobody else had something urgent ;)
259 2009-03-25 22:21:02 <jean7491> for me the priority is : i am concerned with the lack of planning for ubuntu-be future activities
260 2009-03-25 22:21:10 <JanC> what jean7491 proposed: finding volunteers for events isn't always easy, while we have a database of volunteers for other things (the famous "map"), can we somehow use this database for this
261 2009-03-25 22:22:08 <jean7491> before the use of the database, planning of events is my priority
262 2009-03-25 22:22:29 <JanC> jean7491: we can't plan with zero volunteers...
263 2009-03-25 22:23:32 <mongolito404> The current map system is not made as a mailing system.
264 2009-03-25 22:23:57 <jean7491> first look where we have to be present, and then look for volunteers
265 2009-03-25 22:24:11 <JanC> jean7491: there are also several events planned *outside* ubuntu-be which I want to bring more inside too
266 2009-03-25 22:24:15 * warddr heeft verlaten (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
267 2009-03-25 22:24:51 <mongolito404> The map could bee used to contact support point registered for demonstration or help with installation.
268 2009-03-25 22:25:19 <jean7491> i understand the concern of the use of the database, we can think about that later
269 2009-03-25 22:25:37 <mongolito404> There seems to be many Ubuntu related events organized with little or no knowledge on Ubuntu-be
270 2009-03-25 22:25:52 <mongolito404> s/on/in
271 2009-03-25 22:26:07 <JanC> mongolito404: exactly
272 2009-03-25 22:26:43 <jean7491> other inputs than dipro and release party in hasselt ?
273 2009-03-25 22:26:59 <mongolito404> we have to find a way to ease the transmission of imformation about these events through Ubuntu-be
274 2009-03-25 22:27:16 <JanC> yeah, that's why I want them on the site
275 2009-03-25 22:27:54 <JanC> it's an incentive for people to communicate more with ubuntu-be
276 2009-03-25 22:28:13 <mongolito404> I agree
277 2009-03-25 22:28:52 <JanC> jean7491: there is the linuxbabbel in Roeselare which does a lot of things with/for Ubuntu too
278 2009-03-25 22:29:51 <JanC> jean7491: and see the mail by Julien Willem on the list
279 2009-03-25 22:30:09 <mongolito404> jean7491: Sambrelug is also oranizing stuffs, see http://sambrelug.lybrafox.be/images/conferences.png
280 2009-03-25 22:30:30 * t-Omicr0n is off to bed. He'll be back Sunday evening for more...
281 2009-03-25 22:30:53 <JanC> t-Omicr0n: thanks for coming
282 2009-03-25 22:31:21 <t-Omicr0n> JanC: Thanks for having me !
283 2009-03-25 22:31:26 * t-Omicr0n (n=tom@64.145-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) heeft #ubuntu-be verlaten ("I'm out")
284 2009-03-25 22:32:25 <jean7491> linuxbabbel in lichtervelde ? the site linuxbabbel.be announces the next meeting on do. 26 februari !
285 2009-03-25 22:32:56 <JanC> jean7491: yes, it needs to be updated...
286 2009-03-25 22:34:00 <JanC> but there will be a meeting on April 23rd (Jaunty release)
287 2009-03-25 22:35:02 <JanC> see, bad communication everywhere ツ
288 2009-03-25 22:35:52 <jean7491> "but there will be a meeting on April 23rd (Jaunty release)" in linuxbabbel Lichtervelde ?
289 2009-03-25 22:36:11 <JanC> yes
290 2009-03-25 22:36:45 <JanC> I suppose there will be a talk about what's new in jaunty
291 2009-03-25 22:37:23 * warddr (n=warddr@Wikipedia/Warddr) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu-be
292 2009-03-25 22:37:27 <pvandewyngaerde> send a mail to *censored* if you want an invitation
293 2009-03-25 22:38:00 <warddr> connection was lost, can anyone send me the log of the meeting?
294 2009-03-25 22:38:06 <JanC> pvandewyngaerde: you just illustrated why I'm against public logs on IRC ;)
295 2009-03-25 22:39:06 <JanC> now I'll have to edit the log first to mask his mail-adres for spammers
296 2009-03-25 22:39:23 <JanC> warddr: no problem
297 2009-03-25 22:39:41 <pvandewyngaerde> oops, sorry totally forgot
298 2009-03-25 22:39:55 <warddr> I think you have my mail form the list, else i'll sent it private.
299 2009-03-25 22:40:19 <JanC> warddr: the log will be put on the wiki
300 2009-03-25 22:40:26 <warddr> ok great
301 2009-03-25 22:41:40 <JanC> anyway, let's stop here and discuss things further next Sunday
302 2009-03-25 22:41:53 <siegie> good idea
303 2009-03-25 22:41:55 <JanC> is that okay for everybody?
304 2009-03-25 22:42:14 <mongolito404> ok
305 2009-03-25 22:42:49 <pvandewyngaerde> ok
306 2009-03-25 22:42:53 <mongolito404> will somebody make a summary of the meeting on the ML (in additio to the full log)?
307 2009-03-25 22:43:07 <jean7491> ok, next events I know : 19/04/2009 Dipro fair Gent, 23/04/2009 Release Jaunty Linuxbabbel Lichtervelde, 25/04/2009 Relaese Jaunty « BitMappers » Hasselt, 24/05/2009 Dipro fair Antwerpen,
308 2009-03-25 22:43:13 <warddr> I have to go now
309 2009-03-25 22:43:31 <JanC> I'll post the logs on the wiki and try to make a summary tomorrow or Friday
310 2009-03-25 22:43:33 <jean7491> is there a hope for dipro mechelen ?
311 2009-03-25 22:43:46 * warddr heeft verlaten ("Ik ga weg")
312 2009-03-25 22:43:50 <jean7491> next we ?
313 2009-03-25 22:44:26 <mongolito404> jean7491: until the support for events on the website, the list of upcoming events can be added to the wiki
314 2009-03-25 22:44:49 <JanC> jean7491: unless I get a "yes we'll do it" from people around Mechelen before tomorrow noon, then no
315 2009-03-25 22:44:55 <mongolito404> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/#Fair booths & Events
316 2009-03-25 22:45:30 <JanC> (as I have to contact dipro to ask for a booth)
317 2009-03-25 22:48:50 * pvandewyngaerde heeft verlaten ("sleep")
318 2009-03-25 22:50:45 <mongolito404> i'll go to sleep too
319 2009-03-25 22:51:00 <mongolito404> bye
320 2009-03-25 22:51:11 <jean7491> nobody in the room from around Mechelen ? or with ideas about volunteers ?
321 2009-03-25 22:52:48 * mongolito404 heeft verlaten ("Leaving.")
322 2009-03-25 22:54:17 <JanC> jean7491: I think we just need to get a better "volunteer database" in the future
323 2009-03-25 22:56:01 <JanC> otherwise, if the people who live in/around Mechelen don't find volunteers, how should we from 100+ km away?
324 2009-03-25 22:56:32 <jean7491> likely we have to take initiatives earlier, not only in our area (W. Vl.) but everywhere !
325 2009-03-25 22:57:20 <JanC> well, I think local people should do that, but we might have to find the right local people
326 2009-03-25 22:58:26 <jean7491> and review the BelgianTeam/Responsibility on events areas
327 2009-03-25 22:58:49 <JanC> yeah, that page is really outdated
328 2009-03-25 23:00:57 <jean7491> so we have to start the dipro fair Gent from now !
329 2009-03-25 23:02:21 <JanC> actually, for Ghent there is Dieter Vanderfaeillie
330 2009-03-25 23:02:33 <JanC> he organised it last time IIRC
331 2009-03-25 23:03:12 <JanC> and there were 2 other people from the Ghent area, plus me & Pieter
332 2009-03-25 23:03:39 <jean7491> in the wiki, I am alone, till now !
333 2009-03-25 23:04:16 <JanC> that's because people forget to change the wiki if they don't get a reminder ;)
334 2009-03-25 23:05:54 <jean7491> ok, are their other events than dipro where we can reach a large public with an ubuntu booth ? likely locally known ...
335 2009-03-25 23:07:06 <JanC> sure
336 2009-03-25 23:07:57 <JanC> I've been thinking about 1 actually, because I know it very well
337 2009-03-25 23:08:18 <JanC> which is the "Hobbyfestival" in Koekelare
338 2009-03-25 23:11:00 <jean7491> yes, ... likely possible in other locations ... it is an idea to follow for future events !
339 2009-03-25 23:11:03 <JanC> it's organized by the Gezinsbond, and my mother is the secretary of the local chapter of teh Gezinsbond, so I've been a volunteer there before ;)
340 2009-03-25 23:11:40 <JanC> it's in October, I would have to ask my mother for the exact date
341 2009-03-25 23:13:20 <jean7491> and perhaps if she knows anything about such an event elsewhere (through Gezinsbond) !
342 2009-03-25 23:14:34 <jean7491> and it is an idea to look for in oostende
343 2009-03-25 23:14:43 <JanC> we can't do too many events either, especially if we don't find more volunteers
344 2009-03-25 23:15:54 <jean7491> of course, but better a large shopping list where we can pick events as we found volunteers !
345 2009-03-25 23:16:21 <JanC> yeah, a list of potential events to participate sounds good
346 2009-03-25 23:16:59 <JanC> but for something like the Hobbyfestival we need to know in time
347 2009-03-25 23:17:13 <JanC> (months before it's "sold out" already)
348 2009-03-25 23:17:19 * DarkEra (n=darkera@unaffiliated/darkera) heeft #ubuntu-be verlaten ("Konversation terminated!")
349 2009-03-25 23:19:10 <jean7491> we need of planning (annual if possible) and make choices months before, and at the same time build a reserve of volunteers we can ask for help
350 2009-03-25 23:19:11 * zaphod_ heeft verlaten ("Ik ga weg")
351 2009-03-25 23:20:04 <jean7491> ;-) I stop for today, bye ;-)
352 2009-03-25 23:20:38 * jean7491 (n=jm@79.132.234.60) heeft #ubuntu-be verlaten
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