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   2 (21:02:49) Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-05-20 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
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   4 (21:03:30) jean7491: who is here for the meeting ?
   5 (21:03:38) wamukota: I am in
   6 (21:03:43) nightrid3r: <---
   7 (21:05:05) jean7491: JanC ?
   8 (21:06:38) pep: me too
   9 (21:08:42) jean7491: mimor ? JanC ?
  10 (21:09:16) pep: let's wait 5 minutes until 21h15, or is anybody in a hurry?
  11 (21:09:37) wamukota: k for me
  12 (21:09:45) jean7491: ok
  13 (21:12:21) jean7491: Remember agenda today 1. Update preparation booth at Dipro Antwerpen 2. Other events 3. Review of promotion material 4.Update Cleaning – Update Wiki and website 
  14 (21:13:41) Carroarmato0 a quitté le salon (quit: "Sto andando via")
  15 (21:16:59) blackskad [n=blackska@78-22-227-45.access.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
  16 (21:17:48) jean7491: Let's start : topic 1. Update preparation booth at Dipro Antwerpen
  17 (21:18:58) pep: I think I haven't been in contact with any of you that are present before... I am Pierre Vorhagen, student from Liège.
  18 (21:19:14) wamukota: Welcome Pierre
  19 (21:19:21) pep: I had time so I thought I'd pop in
  20 (21:19:35) wamukota: Jean, Is there anything you still need for Sunday?
  21 (21:19:49) jean7491: welcpme pierre, for now, the preparation is ok, manning, material, no problem as i know 
  22 (21:20:34) wamukota: Nice to hear that all is ready
  23 (21:20:38) nightrid3r: i'm bringing a sitecom wifi repeater, we can try to connect to wireless antwerpen
  24 (21:21:25) jean7491: ok nightridd3r, last coordination between participants on irc tomorrow at 21 h.
  25 (21:21:33) nightrid3r: i'll also bring 2 linksys WRT54GL for bridging
  26 (21:22:55) jean7491: if we can start at 9 h. with the preparation of the booth, it should be ready at 10 h.
  27 (21:23:13) jean7491: for the beginning of the fair
  28 (21:23:14) nightrid3r: sure 1 hours should be enough
  29 (21:24:16) jean7491: nightridd3r - anything else for the booth ?
  30 (21:24:54) nightrid3r: dunno, haven't had mucht time to follow the preparations
  31 (21:25:33) jean7491: in fact see the wiki, it is updated manning and material
  32 (21:25:44) nightrid3r: ok i'll check
  33 (21:26:06) pep: if one of you has an eeePC or some other supported netbook, might be a good idea to present the NBR... it's quite an eye-catcher :)
  34 (21:27:05) jean7491: for now no eeepc, nor netbook on the list
  35 (21:28:03) wamukota: jean, i'm off. As I am not feeling to well, I need some sleep
  36 (21:28:19) wamukota: cu all
  37 (21:28:25) wamukota a quitté le salon (quit: "Ik ga weg")
  38 (21:28:31) jean7491: nightridd3r - we'll see tomorrow evening if other things to discuss
  39 (21:28:31) nightrid3r: cu l8er
  40 (21:28:39) nightrid3r: ok
  41 (21:29:19) jean7491: I suggest we start with topic 2. Other events 
  42 (21:30:01) jean7491: as far i know, nothing in june, juli and august, ...
  43 (21:30:25) jean7491: 2 dipro fairs in ghent and antwerpen in september
  44 (21:30:26) pep: well.. we talked about the possibility of attending the lug bbq
  45 (21:30:38) nightrid3r: mmmmm bbq
  46 (21:31:08) pep: interlug bbq on the 22d august
  47 (21:31:18) pep: this is to get closer ties with LUGs
  48 (21:31:26) jean7491: i did n't find info about this bbq on internet
  49 (21:31:41) jean7491: looking i lilit.be
  50 (21:31:56) pep: http://lilit.be/wiki/index.php?page=BbqInterLug2009
  51 (21:32:09) pep: nothing is ready yet, it's merely a date
  52 (21:32:31) pep: but it's the most important event concerning LUGs afaik
  53 (21:33:23) jean7491: we certainly can promote it, but only a date is not much !
  54 (21:34:06) jean7491: i hape we receive more info next months !
  55 (21:34:10) pep: I'm not talking about promoting it yet, but considering that an ubuntu-be "delegation" goes there might be a good idea
  56 (21:34:28) jean7491: certainly
  57 (21:35:40) jean7491: i'll add it in the wiki - future events and later in the calendar on the website
  58 (21:36:48) pep: sure, I just mention it so we look into it a little later, see who's interested...
  59 (21:37:54) nightrid3r: <----
  60 (21:38:28) pep: if it doesn't interfer with my shedule I will be interested too
  61 (21:38:49) jean7491: nothing else for other events ? 
  62 (21:38:50) pep: but it's too soon to decide anything yet, but it's worth to be noted =)
  63 (21:40:39) jean7491: anything else ? other events organized by other lug's or clubs ?
  64 (21:40:56) nightrid3r: not that i know off
  65 (21:41:37) jean7491: ok, topic 3. Review of promotion material 
  66 (21:42:34) pep: for that matter, I'd like to get your attention on the spreadubuntu platform that is still in development
  67 (21:42:47) pep: http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
  68 (21:43:45) pep: it's far from finished, but I think it would be a good idea to submit our promotional material there, this would help in improving it, but also assures enables easy sharing, translation, etc... of the material..
  69 (21:44:41) jean7491: i know spreadubuntu and was looking for posters there , 
  70 (21:45:41) jean7491: we are now working on an improved poster free your pc dutch and french
  71 (21:46:19) pep: if we append an "Ubuntu-be - *" prefis to all the material it will be easily identifiable in the future
  72 (21:46:23) pep: prefix*
  73 (21:46:28) jean7491: when it is done, for sure we can submit our product
  74 (21:46:41) jean7491: or products 
  75 (21:47:40) jean7491: for the poster free your pc, i had reaction on the dutch version, but none for the french one
  76 (21:48:17) ***JanC drops into the meeting
  77 (21:48:26) jean7491: we were reviewing the flyers ... several design are proposed 
  78 (21:48:40) pep: hi JanC
  79 (21:48:46) JanC: sorry, I had a headache and fell asleep :-/
  80 (21:49:05) pep: mhh.. I think I saw that one.. If I am right I think it was quite crowded and with a lot of text... but then that was probably wanted.
  81 (21:49:11) jean7491: JanC we already worked on the 2 first topics
  82 (21:51:00) JanC: yep, I'm reading the backlog
  83 (21:51:06) jean7491: in fact 3 (or4) designs, 1 (or2) dutch and frnch in the wiki, 2 in the mailing list (only dutch for the moment)
  84 (21:51:10) nightrid3r: how come with the number of ubuntero's we have there alway's seem to be like 3,5 people attending the meetings?
  85 (21:51:56) jean7491: a good question ! and there are 20 persons in the room ...
  86 (21:52:16) JanC: most people aren't really active ;)
  87 (21:52:16) yanu: i'm here in silince ;)
  88 (21:52:34) nightrid3r: maybe we should have this meetings in the weekend
  89 (21:52:58) pep: I don't think that would change anything
  90 (21:52:59) JanC: nightrid3r: we did, once, and there was less people than during the week ;)
  91 (21:53:09) nightrid3r: hmmmm
  92 (21:53:09) jean7491: we already tried, but without success
  93 (21:53:31) JanC: some people are just always in the channel anyway
  94 (21:54:19) nightrid3r: i'm like that too, i catch up in the morning
  95 (21:54:30) JanC: right
  96 (21:54:31) pep: I hate repeating myself, but I think the language is for something :-)
  97 (21:54:44) pep: but that's not on the agenda ;)
  98 (21:55:12) JanC: pep: I know several people who are in the channel currently, and for those language isn't the problem really
  99 (21:55:39) pep: ah yeah, it's not the only problem, I'm talking about general ubuntu-be activity
 100 (21:55:45) pep: we talked about this before
 101 (21:55:52) jean7491: coming back to the flyers, there are different concepts about the content of the flyer, more or less expanded
 102 (21:56:43) jean7491: more or less text and information ...
 103 (21:57:16) JanC: pep: if people want to help, language shouldn't be a problem, but maybe the problem is to get thta message across
 104 (21:57:36) pep: maybe, indeed...
 105 (21:58:50) jean7491: and back to the flyers, for antwerpen we'll use the versions ed2 and ed3 existing in the wiki .........
 106 (21:59:27) nightrid3r: i'ts very very short for antwerp but what about "Ubuntu, its all about choice" with the upcomming ellections :)
 107 (21:59:57) JanC: hehe, make a voting flyer? ツ
 108 (22:00:17) pep: Vote for freedom! Vote Ubuntu! :)
 109 (22:00:18) nightrid3r: Stem Ubuntu !
 110 (22:01:15) JanC: might make a nice flyer header, but would make the flyers useless for next fairs though
 111 (22:01:36) nightrid3r: we could make like an old vote form with ubuntu ontop as the party and te benifits as the members, can be used evry time there is an election
 112 (22:01:53) JanC: well, seems like poeple are talking about federal elections later this year, but whatever :-/
 113 (22:03:02) JanC: I'm not sure everybody will like the link to elections
 114 (22:03:27) nightrid3r: i'm pretty sure someone will not like it
 115 (22:04:02) JanC: and we should be prepared to answer political if we use it
 116 (22:04:11) JanC: political questions
 117 (22:04:46) jean7491: for the moment, no change to the flyers/posters, we will have later enough time to think about improvements
 118 (22:04:48) nightrid3r: lets not go there :(
 119 (22:05:24) JanC: nightrid3r: answering political questions is good, but we don't havetime to prepare for that
 120 (22:06:20) nightrid3r: ubuntu-be should stay at least 100M away from politiks and religion at any time
 121 (22:07:38) jean7491: perhaps with another experience in antwerpen, we can develop new ideas about promotion material, wait and see ... 
 122 (22:07:50) JanC: nightrid3r: there is nothing wrong with politics; we just don't want to get caught in party politics
 123 (22:08:08) nightrid3r: yup, thats why
 124 (22:08:23) c0p3rn1c a quitté le salon (quit: Client Quit)
 125 (22:08:24) JanC: jean7491: right
 126 (22:09:01) jean7491: next topic ? 4.Update Cleaning – Update Wiki and website
 127 (22:10:12) jean7491: if nothing else about promotion material ?
 128 (22:13:23) jean7491: website : sofar i can see bug reports are worked on ... 
 129 (22:14:38) jean7491: pages event-team is still oudated (bug report is introduced)
 130 (22:15:42) jean7491: other remarks for the website ?
 131 (22:16:13) JanC: jean7491: I think pep wants to help with German translations after his finals are over
 132 (22:16:44) JanC: which means starting end of June or early July, I guess
 133 (22:16:47) nightrid3r: a "meet the ubuntero's" page would be nice
 134 (22:16:50) pep: yeah
 135 (22:16:52) pep: sure
 136 (22:17:01) pep: get back to it :$
 137 (22:17:33) JanC: pep: we don't expect you to do much now, studies go first ツ
 138 (22:17:54) nightrid3r: with list of confirmed events we will attend
 139 (22:18:28) JanC: nightrid3r: that would be part of an "agenda"
 140 (22:19:04) nightrid3r: the page i talk about is geared towards visitors
 141 (22:19:11) jean7491: pep, later when you have time, you can add a german version in the bug report #364128 i wrote in dutch, french and english.
 142 (22:19:58) pep: yeah I'll get to that some time later, will do though, I should be around more often in the future
 143 (22:20:26) jean7491: thanks :)
 144 (22:20:27) JanC: first make sure you succeed in your final exams ツ
 145 (22:22:06) jean7491: nightrid3r - an agenda is planned for the website, what do you expect ?
 146 (22:22:17) jean7491: else ?
 147 (22:23:12) nightrid3r: agenda is nice but we should keep visitor and ubuntero stuff separated
 148 (22:23:29) JanC: nightrid3r: why?
 149 (22:23:49) JanC: or what do you mean?
 150 (22:24:17) nightrid3r: to much technical stuff could scare newbie's
 151 (22:24:43) JanC: we should be clear what a particular "event" on the calendar is about
 152 (22:25:07) nightrid3r: thats also a sollution
 153 (22:25:39) JanC: and most events won't be "too technical" really
 154 (22:25:56) JanC: except something like a "website sprint"
 155 (22:26:22) JanC: *maybe* (non-technical peopel could help with that too!)
 156 (22:26:27) nightrid3r: i know but visitors might get the impression that its all geek stuff and we have to avoid that
 157 (22:26:53) JanC: that just means we need to have enough non-geeky stuff on the calendar ;)
 158 (22:27:30) nightrid3r: or separate it and put a "geek stuff here" link at the bottom
 159 (22:28:04) JanC: no, I don't like that, most events are fine for both geeks & non-geeks
 160 (22:28:53) nightrid3r: it's all ok for me als long as visitors can make a distinction between the type of events
 161 (22:31:58) jean7491: about the wiki ?
 162 (22:33:25) nightrid3r: wiki is going to take a torough vacuming cleaning
 163 (22:34:00) Vigo a quitté le salon (quit: "Quitte")
 164 (22:35:48) jean7491: JanC - did you have progress in the updating of thepage BelgianTeam/Responsibility (confirmation of existing names ) ? 
 165 (22:38:42) JanC: jean7491: right, I have to do some more work on that :-/
 166 (22:41:00) jean7491: for me nothing else in the wiki, other remarks about updating the wiki ?
 167 (22:48:12) jean7491: Suggestion of topic for a future meeting : relation with the lug's and computer clubs ? link via ubunteros members of these groups ?
 168 (22:48:55) nightrid3r: ok
 169 (22:48:58) jean7491: other suggestions ?
 170 (22:50:10) jean7491: topic 1 will be the report dipro antwerpen, 2. ? ...
 171 (22:50:45) nightrid3r: wifi @ dipro event's
 172 (22:52:26) jean7491: nightrid3r : we already can discuss it in a'pen between us, and see what in the future ?
 173 (22:52:31) JanC: will there be wifi in A'pen?
 174 (22:52:46) nightrid3r: i'll try to links
 175 (22:53:08) JanC: it really depends on the location
 176 (22:53:30) JanC: Dipro doesn't guarantee
 177 (22:54:36) nightrid3r: the link from sportpaleis is only 200M away from the entrance
 178 (22:55:51) nightrid3r: i'll bring my gear and see what we can do
 179 (22:56:29) jean7491: JanC - you will certainly hear the result later !
 180 (22:58:27) JanC: okay, good luck with the meeting ツ
 181 (22:58:38) JanC: with the fair, I mean
 182 (22:58:41) nightrid3r: for those interested, there's allot of nice gear for long distance wifi in the shop of wireless antwerpen
 183 (22:59:34) jean7491: you will have to explain me about that on sunday !
 184 (22:59:46) nightrid3r: damn :D
 185 (23:00:13) jean7491: next meeting same day and same hour ? i'll add in the report the question about a better day for the meeting ?
 186 (23:00:27) nightrid3r: ok
 187 (23:00:44) nightrid3r: or setup a poll for a meeting day
 188 (23:00:45) JanC: jean7491: if people think they know a better meeting time, they can propose
 189 (23:01:12) JanC: then we can see if it's really better (poll or whatever)
 190 (23:01:21) nightrid3r: ok
 191 (23:01:32) jean7491: ok :)