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   1 IRC meeting on 03/06/2009
   2 (21:01:31) jean7491: first who is here for the meeting ? janC?
   3 (21:01:42) Wamukota: i'm here
   4 (21:01:44) JanC: I'm here
   5 (21:02:18) mimor: I'm here
   6 (21:04:21) jean7491: Vigo ?
   7 (21:05:27) Vigo: Hi, didn't know there was a meeting, just having a look at the agenda :)
   8 (21:05:50) jean7491: here the agenda 1. Relation with other LUG's and computer clubs
   9 (21:05:50) jean7491: 2. Other events 
  10 (21:05:50) jean7491: 3. Promotion material 
  11 (21:05:50) jean7491: 4. Next meeting ?
  12 (21:06:02) stani: I'm half present (working on other things)
  13 (21:06:46) mollymasta: i'm here for a look ^^
  14 (21:07:03) mimor: :)
  15 (21:07:12) jean7491: last week, we already spoke about it :  with better contacts with other groups we could improve actively our promotion actions,  for example we could cooperate to organize common booth in some occasions  
  16 (21:08:09) jean7491:  no reaction on this topic after the report of last meeting,     mail to cedric janssens (for french speaking part)  has been posted, no answer yet    
  17 (21:08:52) Wamukota: I posted a mail on Seniorennet Linux mailgroup, but got not a single response.
  18 (21:09:09) jean7491: the first question : who has contact with these lugs and computer clubs and is ready to be interface for contacts? we just had an answer in mechelen (hcc)
  19 (21:10:10) annelise [i=4e1ddc90@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1809f78d9a158d28] a rejoint le salon.
  20 (21:10:43) jean7491: possibility of mail in the mailing list, but ... 
  21 (21:11:01) Wamukota: I have no contact hatsoever with computer clubs here in Brugge, so it is a bit difficult for me to go over there and start talking about ubuntu-be
  22 (21:11:18) Wamukota: if you are not familiar with the club and its members
  23 (21:11:23) mimor: I don't have contact with computer clubs or Lug's, but I already tried promoting Ubuntu-be on the Ugent's group Zeus
  24 (21:11:34) annelise a quitté le salon (quit: Client Quit)
  25 (21:11:59) mollymasta: idem don't now any club
  26 (21:12:24) jean7491: at least you have contact with zeus (lug? in u-gent)
  27 (21:13:52) mimor: Zeus is a student club from the University Ghent
  28 (21:13:55) Wamukota: is trying to do a demo at schools, by contacting the Informatics-teacher of a school not another way of promoting open source
  29 (21:14:36) mimor: Wamukota, that's an option... but the ones aware of the power of ubuntu already teach it
  30 (21:14:41) Wamukota: if you have a group of 16-18 year old pupils as audience, they will be interested for sure
  31 (21:14:43) mimor: the others are lower grade teachers
  32 (21:15:06) jean7491: i will try later a mail in mailing list, we will see ,   but looking in the calendar of next months there  are 3 priorities ...
  33 (21:15:10) mimor: an audience of 16-18 tends computer classes to play line-rider :(
  34 (21:15:31) Wamukota: kine-rider? wat's that?
  35 (21:15:40) jean7491: 1. lilit.be for the bbq in august
  36 (21:15:41) mimor: some stupid game ><
  37 (21:15:44) mimor: but nvm
  38 (21:15:56) mimor: I won't be joining that...
  39 (21:16:02) jean7491: 2. hasselt dipro in september
  40 (21:16:13) mimor: (it's a little bit too far, and I still have to plan my holliday)
  41 (21:16:33) jean7491: 3. charleroi dipro in october
  42 (21:16:35) mimor: Perhaps... if there are not enough volunteers from that area, I'll join
  43 (21:16:43) mimor: Charleroi... same
  44 (21:16:52) mimor: but I need a ride :D
  45 (21:18:45) jean7491: for the bbq, it is more a way to improve relation with lilit.be,    for dipro fairs, we need local support to organise a booth
  46 (21:19:38) jean7491: Vigo, perhaps i already ask it, do you have contact with lilit ?
  47 (21:20:47) Vigo: sorry but I have no contact with any lug or ubuntu clubs
  48 (21:21:30) Wamukota: is there a list of all the lugs in Belgium, and if so, who is going to contact them?
  49 (21:21:40) Wamukota: I think one person must be responsible for that
  50 (21:22:06) Wamukota: if we  have a point of contact in each lug, coordination will be much simpler
  51 (21:22:33) jean7491: there are lists of lug's, but outdated ...
  52 (21:23:09) jean7491: and 2 in charge of contacts, but ...
  53 (21:23:57) jean7491: the problem is more in the french speaking part of be ...
  54 (21:25:22) Wamukota: you mean that are not enough ubuntu users from Walonie in our team?
  55 (21:26:24) jean7491: indeed and less concentrated, but there are more lugs...
  56 (21:26:24) Wamukota: but even then, the few that we have can do something
  57 (21:27:12) Wamukota: then we must contact those lugs, and work from within the lugs
  58 (21:27:44) jean7491: it's why i started with this problem !
  59 (21:27:59) Wamukota: are Jan and Cedric willing to start contactingthem?
  60 (21:28:18) Wamukota: if not, someby else must be found to do it
  61 (21:29:01) Wamukota: hence my question about the list of lugs
  62 (21:33:00) Wamukota: I am willing to contact them and pass all the information I receive on the maillist if that can be of any help
  63 (21:34:13) Wamukota: then we could setup a list of priorities
  64 (21:34:22) mimor: yup
  65 (21:35:07) Wamukota: if you agree with this, I'll do it.
  66 (21:35:19) Wamukota: I must just have the correct 'message' to pass to them
  67 (21:36:22) mimor: I guess jean7491 is the best in writing french texts
  68 (21:36:59) Wamukota: don't worry, french is my mother tongue, i can do both
  69 (21:37:04) Wamukota: just no german LOL
  70 (21:37:13) mimor: ok
  71 (21:37:14) mimor: :)
  72 (21:37:57) jean7491: message is first contact, then exchange of info about what we do and what they do ...
  73 (21:38:22) Wamukota: jean7491, will we both setup the text?
  74 (21:38:31) jean7491: and later cooperation, if ...
  75 (21:38:33) mimor: use pastebin ;)
  76 (21:38:45) mimor: then I can try to add something too
  77 (21:38:52) mimor: I'm practicing my french btw :D
  78 (21:39:40) jean7491: i don't know the use of pastebin, but we can work on the text
  79 (21:40:27) mimor: If it's in pastebin we can all re-read/re-vise it & add sugestions
  80 (21:40:30) mimor: or use the wiki page
  81 (21:40:39) JanC: or use gobby  ;)
  82 (21:40:47) mimor: never heard of gobby
  83 (21:40:56) ***mimor is checking gobby
  84 (21:41:05) Wamukota: we must not let 50 people change the simple 10 lines of text...are we never have a message sent out
  85 (21:42:10) mimor: true
  86 (21:43:01) Wamukota: it is just like jean7491 said, welcome, who are we and why do we want to work together with them
  87 (21:43:46) Wamukota: if we have some extra people to assist us with dipro and other fairs that would be nice
  88 (21:44:15) Wamukota: once we have a list of lugs willing to help us, we can move on
  89 (21:44:25) jean7491: we can start with 4 Wamukota JanC mimor and me to elaborate text for contacts
  90 (21:44:30) mimor: So to conclude, Wamukota end jean7491 will write a text to get in touch with the lugs
  91 (21:44:46) jean7491: yes
  92 (21:44:52) Wamukota: indeed
  93 (21:44:52) mimor: and JanC and Me will revise it ;)
  94 (21:44:58) mimor: (I feel like a teacher)
  95 (21:44:59) mimor: :D
  96 (21:45:06) Wamukota: super. that's it
  97 (21:45:08) jean7491: :-D
  98 (21:45:10) ***mimor feels evil for some reason
  99 (21:45:34) mollymasta a quitté le salon (quit: )
 100 (21:46:07) Wamukota: off-topic : i must walk my dog now brb
 101 (21:46:14) mimor: :D
 102 (21:46:15) mimor: ok
 103 (21:46:19) mimor: have fun :p
 104 (21:46:30) jean7491: and about priorities for the next months, (and looking to active lugs), we can focuse on liege-lilit (bbq), charleroi (dipro) and bxlug (next release party or other events)    
 105 (21:46:52) mimor: I'll do the next release-party for ghent
 106 (21:47:06) mimor: if there are people wanting to help me with it... they're welcome
 107 (21:47:10) mimor: just send me a mail
 108 (21:47:19) jean7491: ok enough for this topic, next events ... 
 109 (21:47:19) mimor: ubuntu@morraye.be should work by now
 110 (21:48:44) jean7491: about release party 9.10 in november : indymedia organise something in the first days, then 8/11 dipro ghent, and later 29/11 dipro antwerpen  
 111 (21:49:08) jean7491: release party should be between dipro ghent and a'pen
 112 (21:49:11) stani a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
 113 (21:49:18) mimor: k
 114 (21:49:37) mimor: same way to determine the date by creating a doodle?
 115 (21:50:32) jean7491: we have to think about !? 
 116 (21:51:26) jean7491: and perhaps start with possibilities of infrastructures
 117 (21:51:54) stani [n=stani@h147195.upc-h.chello.nl] a rejoint le salon.
 118 (21:52:29) mimor: 21 nov release party ghent?
 119 (21:52:44) mimor: Same place as previous party
 120 (21:52:50) mimor: guess that's enough
 121 (21:53:14) jean7491: i am not sure !
 122 (21:54:08) jean7491: it's better to have a choice between several possibilities ...
 123 (21:54:22) mimor: dates or locations?
 124 (21:55:21) jean7491: locations, with + and - arguments according the extend of the public
 125 (21:55:47) jean7491: and what we are planning to do ...
 126 (21:57:09) jean7491: we can exhange ideas about it later, outside of this meeting ...
 127 (21:57:23) mimor: k :)
 128 (21:57:24) jean7491: and come back in meeting later
 129 (21:58:13) nightrid3r a quitté le salon (quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
 130 (21:58:27) jean7491: about other events :  program of dipro fairs september to december is posted in the wiki names of volunteers for the booths can be added in the wiki   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs  
 131 (21:58:44) jean7491: and names are already in !
 132 (22:00:26) jean7491: about events, we already spoke about the events-team ...
 133 (22:00:55) jean7491: but we should consider what are the missions of this team ?
 134 (22:01:46) Wamukota: promote open source,
 135 (22:01:53) mimor: keep track of upkomming events and help organising them?
 136 (22:02:00) jean7491: a first thing is looking for opportunities to develop the promotion of ubuntu,
 137 (22:02:46) jean7491: then establishing a calendar of future events and publish it in wiki/website
 138 (22:03:25) jean7491: 3. taking initiative to launch the organisation of activities/events 
 139 (22:03:57) Wamukota: right, but this is all 'around' the event, what during an event ?
 140 (22:04:04) mimor: primary part is indeed the maintainance of the Meeging and events page on the wiki
 141 (22:04:25) Wamukota: or is that not for the event-team
 142 (22:04:35) jean7491: and helping organisators to organize events
 143 (22:04:38) Wamukota: and more for the booth-team?
 144 (22:05:08) mimor: they should also should also work together with the promotion-team, to promote events ;)
 145 (22:05:24) mimor: they can't be on the booth-team
 146 (22:05:34) jean7491: i see the first impulse coming from events-team, ...
 147 (22:05:35) mimor: booth-team varies from location to location...
 148 (22:05:56) Wamukota: so we have an event-team (who ?) a promo-team (who?) and booth-teams
 149 (22:06:02) Wamukota: quite complex
 150 (22:06:09) mimor: Would it be of some use if there was some kind of work-flow and task description of existing groups?
 151 (22:06:48) Wamukota: well i think you will always see the same names appear, as in any organization
 152 (22:07:02) jean7491: and later a core-team or booth-team working on activity/event 
 153 (22:07:17) Wamukota: we are not such a large group that we can easily distribute tasks
 154 (22:08:37) jean7491: main problem is to launch an intiative for an event, ... 
 155 (22:09:43) Wamukota: what kind of events do we have? 2 types : twice a year a release party type of event, and then the dipro fair type of event
 156 (22:09:53) Wamukota: for each a scenario must be written out
 157 (22:10:11) jean7491: then when we found a response of volunteers, other people can go ahead with organisation of the event, 
 158 (22:10:16) Wamukota: then we must see what is needed for each scenario
 159 (22:10:35) Wamukota: pepole, hardware, software...
 160 (22:10:50) jean7491: for dipro, see wiki, all is in !
 161 (22:11:07) Wamukota: correct
 162 (22:11:09) jean7491: for release party, it is to do !    
 163 (22:11:58) Wamukota: this is a task for those who have done more than one release party
 164 (22:12:08) mimor: Is it ok for you if I take the position as Release-party chief of organiser like rank?
 165 (22:12:08) Wamukota: they can write the requirements down
 166 (22:12:16) mimor: grrr
 167 (22:12:21) mimor: I've done only one :(
 168 (22:12:32) Wamukota: no props
 169 (22:12:56) mimor: I know, I'm quite new to the community
 170 (22:13:02) mimor: and quite new to Linux too
 171 (22:13:07) jean7491: release parties : 3x small release party, 1x large for lts version ...
 172 (22:13:12) Wamukota: i am too, i've not done a R party yet LOL
 173 (22:13:16) mimor: but I've learned quite some things from my first release party
 174 (22:13:20) mimor: and I'd like to share them
 175 (22:13:43) Wamukota: fine with me. as long as it becomes available to all in the wiki
 176 (22:13:55) mimor: So I'll try to write down some "workflow" for organising the release party
 177 (22:14:18) Wamukota: nice.
 178 (22:14:19) mimor: It's in my tasklist due to next week wednesday 21H
 179 (22:14:41) mimor: but don't shoot me if it isn't 100% as you're used in professional environements :)
 180 (22:14:41) jean7491: and have a look in reports of previous release parties (be and nl)
 181 (22:14:43) Wamukota: well, no need to hurry. We still have 5 months
 182 (22:14:56) mimor: But I don't have 5 months
 183 (22:15:05) mimor: it's all bussy bussy bussy right now :(
 184 (22:16:12) Wamukota: jean7491, another topic?
 185 (22:16:39) jean7491: ok, we see echanges on release party  next week ! the next topic ? promotion material  !
 186 (22:17:37) Wamukota: is there anything specific we need
 187 (22:18:17) jean7491: last week we spoke about the proposal to paint an ubuntu banner (1 m x 0.5 m.) on textile (indra - at home in stekene) - we have 1 volunteer to help ...
 188 (22:18:29) Vigo a quitté le salon (quit: "Quitte")
 189 (22:19:31) jean7491: let's hope other volunteers can help indra to paint the banner (and for better direct contacts with him) ...
 190 (22:20:07) jean7491: stekene is not to far from ghent area !
 191 (22:20:19) Wamukota: just for a check : HW is no problem, presentation ok, flyers ok, CD's ???
 192 (22:21:26) mimor: I'd like to help, but my car is out of business :(
 193 (22:21:33) mimor: yes, it still is
 194 (22:21:50) jean7491: cd's 9.04 are still in stock by JanC,     i try to help indra with his proposal
 195 (22:22:49) JanC: Indymedia might have CDs in stock too
 196 (22:23:09) Wamukota: we all know that Windows 7 will be released in october. Maybe a newspaper interview of Clickx interview around that period would be needed
 197 (22:23:22) JanC: for those closer to BXL
 198 (22:23:25) Wamukota: just to counteract the overwhelming MS propaganda
 199 (22:24:42) Wamukota: do we invite the press on the release pary?
 200 (22:25:18) mimor: we might
 201 (22:25:24) mimor: that's something we can keep in mind
 202 (22:25:35) mimor: In any case... I will ;)
 203 (22:26:03) Wamukota: does somebody know of a company using ubuntu desktop + server? Could they then not sponsor us
 204 (22:26:38) mimor: we got the beamer from krimson last time
 205 (22:28:47) jean7491: it is an idea to think about : press in october to promote ubuntu, we need more proposals  
 206 (22:29:52) jean7491: the other idea of sponsor, to discuss with JanC, taking in account the past of ubuntu-be
 207 (22:29:53) Wamukota: put the question on the mailling list. We are only 3 or 4 here tonight
 208 (22:31:24) jean7491: for today i'd like to help indra, mimor, is there someone else in ghent who could help to paint the banner ?
 209 (22:32:53) jean7491: with liese (volunteer) after 22/06
 210 (22:33:21) mimor: perhaps: Pieter Iserbyt
 211 (22:33:50) mimor: I'll ask him if I encounter him somewhere around my working-space
 212 (22:33:51) mimor: :D
 213 (22:34:01) mimor: (he works in the same building as me)
 214 (22:34:16) mimor: but some googling should bring up his gmail adress
 215 (22:35:24) mimor: other remarks?
 216 (22:35:30) mimor: Other topics?
 217 (22:35:34) mimor: next meeting?
 218 (22:35:40) jean7491: wait ...
 219 (22:35:43) mimor: k
 220 (22:36:17) jean7491: support for the posters : improvised support is not nice to see! suggestions? JanC something new ?
 221 (22:37:32) JanC: no, haven't been to my parents last weekend
 222 (22:37:57) jean7491: or Gh0sty ?
 223 (22:38:15) mimor: guess he isn't around
 224 (22:38:31) mimor: otherwise he would've appologise for being late ;)
 225 (22:38:53) jean7491: ok, ;-) then we wait for ideas  ;-)
 226 (22:38:58) mimor: :)
 227 (22:39:29) mimor: JanC: thx for the tip on learning Python instead of java!
 228 (22:39:34) jean7491: for use in fairs (booth) and other parties, we need material to clearly identify the people in charge of the activity :  a badge for the belgian loco team with ubuntu lanyards and t-shirts, 
 229 (22:41:00) jean7491: i suggest a pool of 10-20 badges (without name) we can dispatch according to the need
 230 (22:41:04) mimor: how about setting up some sort of support shop? wher people can donate some money & gain a CD, sticker, T-shirt when they add some amount of donation?
 231 (22:41:41) Wamukota: but we are not a VZW / ASBL so the question about money and making money is a trivial one
 232 (22:41:59) mimor: they can already just donate something
 233 (22:42:12) Wamukota: who collects the money then?
 234 (22:42:45) mimor: so if we 'reward' them when they do - acording to the amount of money donated - it would give us some more movement space
 235 (22:42:58) mimor: dunno... who's the money-keeper?
 236 (22:43:02) mimor: guess jean7491 knows
 237 (22:43:17) JanC: Wamukota: we have a bank account, and 2 people have access to it
 238 (22:43:28) Wamukota: ok
 239 (22:43:42) jean7491: see wiki-responsibilities
 240 (22:43:58) mimor: ok, let that be a point for next time
 241 (22:44:06) mimor: (I have to go get some more nicotine)
 242 (22:44:17) mimor: I ran out an hour ago :(
 243 (22:44:19) Wamukota: :)
 244 (22:44:30) jean7491: wait, it is good for your health
 245 (22:44:44) mimor: but not for the things around me :)
 246 (22:45:31) jean7491: don't worry ! :P think first ! your health !
 247 (22:45:34) mimor: let's finish the question of jean7491 about the badges/shirts
 248 (22:46:06) mimor: I guess it would be nice if we'd all weare the same black outfit with the logo on it
 249 (22:46:15) mimor: but I wonder who's gonna sponsor that one ><
 250 (22:46:41) jean7491: ok, we see next week !
 251 (22:46:53) mimor: k
 252 (22:47:07) jean7491: let's close, next meeting ?
 253 (22:47:10) mimor: next meeting 10 june 21 h.