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   2 (13:44:48) #ubuntu-be: Le sujet de #ubuntu-be est : http://ubuntu-be.org | get support at #ubuntu-nl, #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu | IRC meeting on Wednesday 2009-11-04 at 21h (UTC+2), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings for agenda and more information
   3 (21:00:38) jean7491: Hi to all, who is here for the meeting ?
   4 (21:01:25) LarsB: I wanna listen :)
   5 (21:02:27) jean7491: hello LarsB :)
   6 (21:02:35) LarsB: Hi jean7491 :)
   7 (21:06:15) |mantas| [n=ubuntu@ip-81-11-224-15.dsl.scarlet.be] a rejoint le salon.
   8 (21:08:46) JanC: o/
   9 (21:09:10) JanC: I will have to pick up my parents later (around 22h probably) though
  10 (21:09:15) LarsB: oi JanC :)
  11 (21:09:21) jean7491: hello JanC, ok
  12 (21:10:46) LarsB: How can i register myself in the ubuntu-be team on launchpad?
  13 (21:15:54) jean7491: LarsB: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-be
  14 (21:16:00) JanC: normally there is a button for that?
  15 (21:16:20) LarsB: Thank you :)
  16 (21:16:32) ***selckin laughs at languages
  17 (21:16:42) LarsB: request is awaiting approval :p
  18 (21:17:08) jean7491: LarsB: you spoke about limburghall, are from genk area? 
  19 (21:17:17) Carroarmato0: kheb mezelf ook toegevoegd
  20 (21:17:18) LarsB: yes
  21 (21:17:32) LarsB: From As, about 5 minutes away from Genk
  22 (21:17:43) jean7491: interested to participate with ubuntu-be in the dipro fair on 06/12? we are looking for volunteers!
  23 (21:17:54) LarsB: yeah sure :)
  24 (21:18:24) jean7491: ok, send me a pm with your email
  25 (21:18:25) JanC: there should also be somebody with fair experience though
  26 (21:18:56) JanC: maybe soem of the people from Hasselt?
  27 (21:19:21) jean7491: i likely have other names, but to be confirmed
  28 (21:20:57) LarsB: Is there a reason we are talking English? :p
  29 (21:22:22) JanC: people in be speak nl, fr or de as their native language, but most speak also en
  30 (21:22:37) LarsB: ah k :)
  31 (21:23:23) jean7491: this irc meeting will be short !
  32 (21:23:51) JanC: yep, IRC meeting for Gent is tomorrow, so we don't have to discuss that
  33 (21:24:00) jean7491: topic 1. past and future events 
  34 (21:24:00) jean7491: dipro oostmalle 25/10 - report is added in the wiki
  35 (21:24:31) jean7491: dipro fair in ghent 08/11 - IRC coordination tomorrow 05/11 at 21.00 h. with kenneth
  36 (21:25:11) jean7491: next planned event : release party in ghent 21/11
  37 (21:25:51) jean7491: without volunteers to organize it, we have to cancel the release party! any comment ?
  38 (21:27:03) LarsB: What do you do on a release party? Show 9.10 and give free cd's or?
  39 (21:27:43) JanC: whatever the organiser organises ;)
  40 (21:28:30) JanC: but if we want to do a large one with presentations etc., it needs to be planned early enough...
  41 (21:30:35) jean7491: can we first decide what about the rp planned on 21/11: we have possible sponsors, but no organization team : imho it is time to cancel it !
  42 (21:31:29) JanC: I would have canceled last week already...
  43 (21:32:00) jean7491: if no other comment, it is now cancelled
  44 (21:33:03) jean7491: and looking for the future, we could start thinking about a release party for 10
  45 (21:33:16) jean7491: 10.04
  46 (21:33:28) JanC: yep
  47 (21:33:33) LarsB: Yes :)
  48 (21:33:40) jean7491: as 10.04 is lts
  49 (21:33:56) LarsB: Will it still be in Ghent?
  50 (21:35:34) jean7491: no, it has to be decided where by an organization team we should constitute with volunteers
  51 (21:36:46) jean7491: to continue with events in november : dipro fair antwerp on 29/11
  52 (21:37:46) jean7491: preparation is on track ... i solved the problem to move material from ostend to antwerp
  53 (21:38:29) JanC: good
  54 (21:38:58) jean7491: next week we will add in the future events the dipro fairs (december) in genk and mechelen
  55 (21:39:48) jean7491: next topic : 2. promotion material - event boxes and other ideas
  56 (21:40:18) JanC: as said before, 400 official CDs arrived
  57 (21:40:40) LarsB: Sweet :)
  58 (21:40:49) LarsB: I can't get even 1 :p
  59 (21:41:16) jean7491: nice, :)
  60 (21:41:22) JanC: I have been thinking (just an idea for now) about having ubuntu-be CDs or DVDs pressed for 10.04
  61 (21:41:35) JanC: but we would need sponsors for that ;)
  62 (21:41:45) LarsB: how you mean "pressed"?
  63 (21:42:19) JanC: that's how official CDs are made ;)
  64 (21:42:27) JanC: no CD-Rs
  65 (21:42:49) LarsB: But then without the casings? Or let them get pressed to?
  66 (21:42:52) JanC: I'd be happy to make a customised CD/DVD .iso (like I did for last LTS)
  67 (21:43:18) LarsB: customised iso? What did you edit?
  68 (21:43:25) JanC: putting them in hard paper sleeve
  69 (21:43:50) JanC: include Dutch translations for everything
  70 (21:44:10) jean7491: and frnch and german?
  71 (21:44:21) jean7491: french and german?
  72 (21:44:29) guydup [n=guydup@d51530769.static.telenet.be] a rejoint le salon.
  73 (21:44:32) JanC: those are already complete IIRC, but yes
  74 (21:44:36) LarsB: I can help with the dutch part, but don't know how to make an custom iso
  75 (21:44:52) JanC: if I need to customise more, I'd probably need a DVD
  76 (21:45:19) JanC: it's just adding/removing packages fro mthe default install ;)
  77 (21:45:59) jean7491: hello guydup :)
  78 (21:46:33) guydup: hello
  79 (21:47:31) LarsB: brb
  80 (21:48:32) jean7491: can we speak now about proposed meeting Digipolis on Openbaar Computer Ruimtes in ghent ?
  81 (21:49:43) jean7491: digipolis ghent sent me an invitation to participate to a meeting about ocr in ghent ...
  82 (21:50:54) jean7491: with the possibility to present social and free software : is there someone in ghent interested to participate to this meeting ?
  83 (21:52:11) guydup: i do not if i will be invited as commercial business, but i did offer them a free multiseat test machine
  84 (21:53:31) jean7491: in their agenda, i see "Multidesk" : is it multiseat ?
  85 (21:53:47) guydup: do not know
  86 (21:54:30) JanC: probably just written it wrong...
  87 (21:55:22) jean7491: non speaking about business, i think digipolis is a good contact we should improve in ghent!
  88 (21:55:31) guydup: can be
  89 (21:56:24) JanC: well, that person inside Digipolis, otherwise they are all Microsoft AFAIK ☺
  90 (21:57:07) jean7491: but we first need a more active team in ghent
  91 (21:57:24) guydup: what is the meaning of the meeting?
  92 (21:58:32) jean7491: i just read the mail from digipolis on ocr meeting, i don't know more
  93 (21:58:59) JanC: in Ghent? I think they need to convince all those little non-profits to move to 1 common ICT organisation
  94 (21:59:12) LarsB: AFAIK?
  95 (21:59:38) JanC: LarsB: As Far As I Know
  96 (21:59:47) LarsB: ah ok :)
  97 (22:00:18) JanC: well, some are from the OCMW, others are from VZWs
  98 (22:02:21) jean7491: firstly we need to be present, despite other factors!
  99 (22:02:34) guydup: oh, i see the mail wass cc to info@multiseat.be, that is the competition.Ok.
 100 (22:02:54) jean7491: ;-)
 101 (22:03:41) Enissay [n=Enissay@unaffiliated/enissay] a rejoint le salon.
 102 (22:03:51) jean7491: the topic could be discussed during the dipro ghent, if possible
 103 (22:04:40) JanC: guydup: maybe you should mail her, as you talked to her before
 104 (22:05:27) JanC: I guess there is a lot of confusion when people have both of them in their addressbook
 105 (22:06:08) jean7491: coming back to the agenda of the meeting - topic 2. promotion material - event boxes and other ideas
 106 (22:06:23) jean7491: about event boxes, we still need 2 lcd screens (1 for antwerp, 1 for ghent)
 107 (22:06:52) jean7491: and with the arrival of karmic koala, the promotion material will be updated in the wiki.
 108 (22:07:30) LarsB: Event boxes are boxes that are packed for fairs?
 109 (22:08:19) jean7491: yes, for now 1 in ghent and a 2d one next week in antwerp
 110 (22:09:08) LarsB: whats in them? Computers too? Or just promotional products?
 111 (22:09:51) jean7491: both + what you need for a booth : for dipro hasselt in september, i brought material from ostend!
 112 (22:10:26) guydup: maybe,will send her mail,
 113 (22:12:06) jean7491: guydup: about this meeting, i am first fooking for someone from ghent to take initiative! wait and see! still hoping!
 114 (22:13:11) LarsB: you have enough people for ghent?
 115 (22:14:18) JanC: LarsB: I think so
 116 (22:14:24) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2009-11-08 probably yes
 117 (22:14:36) JanC: Gh0sty: how's the mexican flu?
 118 (22:15:00) guydup: it's not the first time someone sends a mail to the competitor's mail adress.That was his goal with getting this domain
 119 (22:15:01) LarsB: he got the swineflu? xD
 120 (22:15:04) JanC: (or: will you be at the fair in ghent?)
 121 (22:15:20) Gh0sty: ik vrees dervoor
 122 (22:15:25) Gh0sty: ik zal wel eens passeren als koper
 123 (22:15:39) Gh0sty: en mss wa blijven plakken maar kan niet heel den dag der zijn :(
 124 (22:15:51) JanC: 's morgens wel?
 125 (22:16:23) JanC: tot 10-13h is het drukste vaak
 126 (22:16:31) siegie [n=quassel@unaffiliated/siegie] a rejoint le salon.
 127 (22:16:39) JanC: anyway, I have to go pick up my parents
 128 (22:16:56) JanC: will read the backlog when I'm back ☺
 129 (22:16:57) jean7491: ok jan, bye
 130 (22:17:10) jean7491: with the arrival of karmic koala, the promotion material will be updated in the wiki.
 131 (22:17:24) LarsB: Can I have 1 cd btw?
 132 (22:18:36) jean7491: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs - see last paragraph and feel free to comment the products 
 133 (22:19:29) jean7491: LarsB : did you ask to shipit?
 134 (22:19:42) LarsB: yes, can't get one
 135 (22:20:02) LarsB: because they are bussy or something, or the high demand
 136 (22:22:29) jean7491: first you need a launchpad registration, then ask it, it can be long, but just wait! for original cd. otherwise download it and burn it 
 137 (22:22:56) LarsB: Where can you ask it on launchpad? Or is that shipit?
 138 (22:23:34) jean7491: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
 139 (22:24:14) LarsB: Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, an ...
 140 (22:24:34) jean7491: yes, but just ask ...
 141 (22:24:42) s3v [n=s3v@unaffiliated/s3v] a rejoint le salon.
 142 (22:24:46) LarsB: where can you ask?
 143 (22:25:51) jean7491: below the shipit page there is a form to be filled in
 144 (22:26:22) LarsB: not here :s
 145 (22:30:35) t00r a quitté le salon (quit: Remote closed the connection)
 146 (22:31:48) Gh0sty: nee omgekeerd eerder laat dan vroeg ... :/
 147 (22:32:42) JanC: jean7491: we'll need other ways to get CDs I fear...
 148 (22:32:43) Carroarmato0: iemand die ervaring heeft met Netwerk Manager ---> Bluetooth ---> Gsm ----> Mobile Vikings ?
 149 (22:33:07) bbartek a quitté le salon (quit: "Ik ga weg")
 150 (22:33:08) LarsB: JanC, how do you mean?
 151 (22:34:06) JanC: we can ask for CDs as a locoteam, not individuals anymore, and I'm not sure if and how many extra we can get (and for what occasion)
 152 (22:34:32) JanC: well, individuals can ask once I think, so if you asked in the past...
 153 (22:34:47) JanC: Carroarmato0: try #ubuntu-nl
 154 (22:35:09) Carroarmato0: JanC, thx
 155 (22:35:34) Carroarmato0: ow
 156 (22:35:46) Carroarmato0: JanC, Mobile Vikings is a Belgian provider :)
 157 (22:35:57) Carroarmato0: not sure they'll be able to help that much :)
 158 (22:36:23) JanC: it's the hardware & software that matters, not the provider
 159 (22:36:37) JanC: plus, there are lot's of Belgians there
 160 (22:37:03) Carroarmato0: thx I'll try
 161 (22:37:04) JanC: plus, we're in a meeting now ;)
 162 (22:37:37) jean7491: Are there other questions for the meeting ?
 163 (22:37:54) JanC: LarsB: if you do the Genk meeting, we'll try to get CDs to Genk though
 164 (22:38:13) LarsB: ok :)
 165 (22:38:30) LarsB: Well I hope there is an other volenteer then xD
 166 (22:38:48) LarsB: Cause alone is kinda ... alone
 167 (22:38:55) JanC: preferably at least 3 volunteers
 168 (22:39:08) JanC: I don't know how big that event hall is?
 169 (22:39:15) LarsB: I'ts not that big
 170 (22:39:32) LarsB: depends on what hall they use, there is a big and a small one
 171 (22:40:56) guydup a quitté le salon (quit: "Java user signed off")
 172 (22:42:06) JanC: multiple volunteers is needed anyway because you don't want to leave your hardware etc. behind when you need to pee or something
 173 (22:42:57) jean7491: i'll try next week to contact people around hasselt and more, i am optimistic about other volunteers (at least a team of 4)
 174 (22:43:51) LarsB: that would be nice :)
 175 (22:44:11) jean7491: LarsB, i will inform you about progress, ...
 176 (22:44:18) LarsB: ok, thx :)
 177 (22:44:29) LarsB: Going to buy me a ubuntu t-shirt then xD
 178 (22:44:57) LarsB: https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=541
 179 (22:44:59) LarsB: awesome xD
 180 (22:45:23) jean7491: with likely a problem to move promo-material (and hardware?) to genk!
 181 (22:46:17) jean7491: from antwerp to genk? or ostend/brugge/ghent to genk?
 182 (22:46:57) LarsB: I can drive to Antwerp
 183 (22:47:05) LarsB: to pick it up
 184 (22:47:15) LarsB: I c you can buy the cd's now in the ubuntu shop
 185 (22:47:50) JanC: you can buy them for years already
 186 (22:48:09) LarsB: i thought only the dvd's
 187 (22:48:56) JanC: DVDs were on Amazon, not sure they still sell them
 188 (22:49:24) jean7491: to close the official part of the meeting : next meeting ? proposed on 11/11/2009 at 21 h. 
 189 (22:52:12) jean7491: JanC : about the cd's: we have +/- 8 to 10 events till end of april: so approx. 40 by event?
 190 (22:53:15) JanC: only 250 of them are Ubuntu, also 75 of Kubuntu & Server each
 191 (22:54:21) jean7491: you wrote about 400 cd's?
 192 (22:55:22) LarsB: 250+75+75
 193 (22:55:50) jean7491: :-D
 194 (22:57:08) LarsB: I can buy 2 20packs for genk
 195 (22:59:36) jean7491: JanC material for antwerp will leave ostend friday evening: are you perhaps coming before to ostend to bring me cd's for a'pen and genk?
 196 (23:04:18) LarsB: jean7491: What kind of pc's do those boxes contain?
 197 (23:07:12) JanC: jean7491: how is it going to Antwerp?
 198 (23:08:09) jean7491: with family coming from a'pen on visit 1 day
 199 (23:09:05) JanC: hm, they can also pick it up at my place or I can come to a motorway exit by the time they pass Bruges?
 200 (23:09:58) JanC: maybe not ask them to pick it up at my place in case they don't find it ;)
 201 (23:10:25) jean7491: i can not send the 4 persons in brugge, and i don't know when they leave in the evening
 202 (23:12:30) jean7491: perhaps through alain coming to ostend?
 203 (23:13:48) jean7491: if he comes friday with the cd's, i can meet him ...
 204 (23:14:38) jean7491: in this case you have to bring him the cd's on thursday evening
 205 (23:16:34) jean7491: JanC ? is it possible ?
 206 (23:22:57) jean7491: JanC ?
 207 (23:23:31) JanC: jean7491: that would work
 208 (23:24:37) JanC: hm, how many should I take?
 209 (23:26:14) jean7491: ok, please send a mail to alain to fix it in brugge - i think 25/event 1 a'pen 2009, 1 a'pen 2010, 1genk 2009 = 75 
 210 (23:26:49) LarsB: I think that is enough :) If we need more we can always burn at the fair
 211 (23:27:04) JanC: jean7491: eh, A'pen 2010 is a larger more expensive fair?
 212 (23:27:29) jean7491: i think dipro fair, not hobby dagen
 213 (23:28:31) JanC: we have 350 euros for a booth? ;)
 214 (23:28:31) LarsB: does the booth cost 350 euro to rent? Or is that the budget?
 215 (23:28:32) JanC: that's for a booth at the Hobby & Microcomputerdagen (2 days)
 216 (23:28:51) LarsB: I wanna be there xD
 217 (23:28:52) JanC: for Genk it will be only 38 euro
 218 (23:29:10) JanC: which you should be able to cover mostly by gifts ;)
 219 (23:29:27) LarsB: Who pays that? The LoCo or the vulonteers?
 220 (23:29:55) JanC: jean7491: "Antwerpen (Hobby & Computerdagen), 20/02/2010 - 21/02/2010" is 295 euro ex. BTW for a booth
 221 (23:30:18) jean7491: JanC :not Hobby days, but i see dipro fair was on may 24th
 222 (23:30:39) JanC: hm, new dates aren't known yet?
 223 (23:30:52) jean7491: so if same calendar only 2 events !
 224 (23:31:08) jean7491: = 50 cd's
 225 (23:31:21) JanC: well, May = Lucid CDs ;)
 226 (23:31:52) jean7491: yes, only a'pen and genk 2009 = 50 de's
 227 (23:32:00) jean7491: cd's
 228 (23:32:08) JanC: they will all be gone after A'pen ;)
 229 (23:32:22) JanC: hm, what about Mechelen?
 230 (23:33:12) jean7491: no, the stock 50 in a'pen will be in 2 parts, 1 (25) reserved for genk
 231 (23:33:49) jean7491: mechelen, we see later (next week)
 232 (23:35:16) jean7491: i have to stop, i'll send more info to larsb tomorrow (irc after the coordination or email) ... 
 233 (23:35:36) LarsB: ok :)
 234 (23:35:45) jean7491: JanC: contact alain about the cd's
 235 (23:36:32) JanC: jean7491: I was thinking A'pen <-> Mechelen is not far
 236 (23:36:35) alexis_ [n=alexis@ip-213-49-245-248.dsl.scarlet.be] a rejoint le salon.
 237 (23:37:18) jean7491: then add 25 (jurgen is on the list in a'pen)
 238 (23:37:28) alexis_ a quitté le salon
 239 (23:39:04) jean7491: ok for 75 ?
 240 (23:39:59) jean7491: JanC: ok for 75 ?
 241 (23:41:49) jean7491: have a good night :)
 242 (23:41:58) LarsB: good night :)
 243 (23:42:13) JanC: sorry, peopel need me in 3 places at the same time :-/
 244 (23:42:41) JanC: jean7491: jurgen will do the Mechelen fair?
 245 (23:43:06) jean7491: no idea? but i have to leave !
 246 (23:43:53) jean7491: bye