10March07

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Sunday, March 7th, 2010, 7:00pm (1900) PST

Original Agenda

  1. SCaLE and Ubucon recap

  2. Lucid Global Jam (Weekend of March 26-28)

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19:10:16 < Flannel> Alright, lets get started.  Welcome everyone to tonight's meeting.
19:10:28 < Flannel> Our agenda is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/10March07
19:10:52 < Flannel> and it currently consists of recaps of Ubucon and SCaLE, and then planning for the upcoming global jam
19:11:20 < Flannel> Before we begin with that, we've got announcements.
19:11:50 < Flannel> Anyone have any announcements?
19:12:16 < Torikun1> 10.04 rocks! that is all =)
19:12:40 < Jamezq12323> I like the new theme, after you move the buttons back to the right :)
19:12:41 < Flannel> Lucid is looking pretty solid, and with it, comes new artwork/theme/branding
19:13:18 < Torikun1> yes
19:13:28 < Flannel> Details on the new branding are still a bit sparse, but
19:13:34 < MarkDude> March 27th we are having an event at Sxabys in Walnut Creek
19:13:50 < MarkDude> 3-7pm I'll post details to ML
19:14:20 < Flannel> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1991
19:14:56 < rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand and http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308 are also nice summaries :)
19:15:01 < Flannel> That's a post about it, not much has materialized except we're getting a new font, and orange is the community color and purple is canonical color.
19:15:48 < Flannel> MarkDude: Who is having the event?
19:16:20 < MarkDude> Gidget Kitchen - We are showing some Linux  vidoes
19:16:30 < MarkDude> & other stuff under the CC
19:16:37 < Flannel> MarkDude: Alright.
19:16:48 < Flannel> Anyone else have other announcements?
19:17:04 < MarkDude> Courtney was going to announce - she could not make it. Thx Flannel
19:17:06 < rww> Oh! I do!
19:17:30 < Flannel> rww: such enthusiasm :)
19:17:41 < rww> Yasumoto's membership meeting is on the 11th. You should invade it with nice things ;P
19:18:02 < Flannel> Oh.  That reminds me.
19:18:08 < rww> ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas has the details )
19:18:19 < Flannel> Everyone congratulate rww on becoming an Ubuntu Member!
19:18:28 < akk> Congratulations rww! Yaaay!
19:18:34 < MarkDude> Im doing the same also Chris & Courtney maybe too
19:18:34 < Jamezq12323> Congratz.
19:18:40 < jbermudes> rww: congrats!
19:18:40 < sidneymccoy> Congratulations rww
19:18:49 < Torikun1> congrats!
19:18:52 < MarkDude> rww is official +1
19:19:16 < rww> thanks everyone :)
19:19:28 < Flannel> With that, I think we'll go ahead and start on our agenda.
19:19:47 < dragon> congratulations rww!
19:19:59 < Flannel> Two weeks ago we had SCaLE and our Ubucon, I guess we'll focus on the Ubucon first.
19:20:27 < Flannel> anyone who was there want to mention anything? good/bad/can-do-better?
19:20:48 < nhaines> Ubucon was a huge success.
19:20:51 < MarkDude> Scale was great
19:21:00 < MarkDude> Ubucon was super
19:21:03 < rww> Ubucon was excellent. We had a good range of topics, there were way more people than expected; I think it went really well :)
19:21:08 < akk> They were both terrific.
19:21:18 < nhaines> We had a day planned with talks on various subjects.  It was standing-room-only.
19:21:26 < rww> As far as improvements... we should figuring out lightning talk software ahead of time next time ;P
19:21:50 < jbermudes> rww: like a giant clock?
19:21:57 < rww> nhaines: Did we get a count of how many people were there? I don't remember how we were planning on doing that.
19:21:59 < Flannel> My estimates have us giving out 150Ubuntu CDs, 70 Kubuntu CDs, and 35 Server CDs
19:22:18 < nhaines> rww: I can get a headcount of the busiest talk in a moment.
19:22:25 < MarkDude> My talk was under the time
19:22:28  * MarkDude bows
19:22:40 < rww> jbermudes: Yeah, or one of the various websites that would do it. Either would be better than my hand and sheets of paper I tore out of nhaines's signin notepad ;P
19:23:07 < MarkDude> rww- it worked for me. And its hard to limit my time
19:23:16 < nhaines> rww: it went well.  :)
19:23:35 < rww> (oh, I also blogged about SCaLE and Ubucon a couple of days ago at http://blog.rww.name/3030.html , btw)
19:23:39 < nhaines> We had a lot of good feedback about Ubucon all weekend.
19:23:47 < MarkDude> Some of that info should be linked to the Ubucin page
19:24:40 < nhaines> All in all, we had good audience participation.
19:24:44 < rww> nhaines: Were we going to get data from the SCaLE people too?
19:25:03 < nhaines> Canonical sent us a ton of swag to give out, and we made gift bags for each speaker to award.
19:25:55 < nhaines> In between talks I quizzed the audience on Ubuntu trivia, the audience engaged with each speaker, and all in all everyone seemed really happy to be there.
19:26:03 < nhaines> That's all I've got.  :)
19:26:23 < ankur> hi my name is ankur i am a student at USC...
19:26:31 < Flannel> Howdy ankur
19:26:33 < ankur> this is my first conference 4 ubuntu
19:26:48 < ankur> im good...how r rest f u doin tonite...
19:26:54 < MarkDude> Hello ankur welcome
19:27:17 < Jamezq12323> Same for me. I'm James, still in highschool but but to san jose city for some classes.
19:27:21 < nhaines> I'm counting at least 45 people in the room, and it's at full capacity.  We may have topped just over 50.
19:27:34 < rww> nhaines: wow. awesome :)
19:27:51 < Flannel> Anyone have anything else to add about Ubucon before we move on to SCaLE?
19:27:57 < Flannel> Howdy Jamezq12323, welcome :)
19:28:04 < akgraner> nhaines, thank you all for the awesome job you did
19:28:16 < Jamezq12323> ty :)
19:28:29 < dragon> ankur, Jamezq12323: Welcome aboard
19:28:30 < nhaines> akgraner: thank you, I think a lot of people pulled together for this.
19:28:34 < akk> Great job on picking speakers -- the talks were really interesting and good (and kept dragging me away from WIOS)
19:28:55 < ankur> thanks jamez..
19:29:05 < akgraner> I can't say enough for how welcome the CA team always makes other LoCo teams feel welcome
19:29:10 < jbermudes>  so is this going to be a regular thing at SCaLE now?
19:29:31 < nhaines> akgraner: we're always happy to collaborate--we're really all part of one big community.
19:30:05 < nhaines> jbermudes: I would love for it to be a regular thing and I hope to talk to the SCaLE guys since they just had their first meeting to plan SCaLE9X tonight.
19:30:19 < Flannel> jbermudes: That depends on whether we want to or not ;)
19:30:41 < akgraner> nhaines, will you all need a breakdown of cost so you know what you are looking at for sponsors next year? - or do you want to see what the SCaLE folks say?
19:31:13 < nhaines> akgraner: I'd like a cost breakdown, because we may decide to hold something even if SCaLE doesn't have room.  And if they do, we'll be ready then. :)
19:31:50 < akgraner> nhaines, I'll get it to you this week :-)
19:31:51 < MarkDude> T-shirt donations *could* help offset costs, just an suggestion
19:32:04 < akk> There was an Ubucon in mountain view some 3 years ago, at Google. It was really fun too.
19:32:10 < ankur> hey SCALE is it a monthly event?
19:32:17 < Flannel> ankur: No, annually
19:32:35 < akk> (that one wasn't associated with a conference, just a standalone 1-day event)
19:33:28 < nhaines> Last announcement that may be tangentally related to Ubucon/community stuff: I'm considering starting an Ubuntu Hour in Long Beach or Los Angeles.
19:33:34 < dragon> akk: wish I knew about that one at that time
19:33:41 < Flannel> That same weekend we also hosted a booth at SCaLE,
19:33:48 < nhaines> So if anyone's interested, email me (nhaines AT ubuntu DOT com) or check the mailing list.
19:34:04 < jbermudes> nhaines: is traffic too bad to head back home at 5? hehe
19:34:10 < dragon> nhaines: how frequent would this be?
19:34:29 < nhaines> jbermudes: I work in Irvine.  ;)  dragon: probabably once or twice a month.
19:34:42 < nhaines> Okay, as I said, after the meeting.
19:34:49 < nhaines> Now, on to SCaLE8X itself.
19:35:10 < nhaines> We were booth 65, which was in the far corner of the expo floor.
19:35:21 < nhaines> Despite this, we had overwheling, crushing traffic on Saturday.
19:36:07 < nhaines> We gave away approximately 7 hundred thousand Ubuntu CDs.  I believe Flannel has more refined numbers.
19:36:08 < rww> crushingly awesome :)
19:36:27 < Flannel> seven-hundred-thousand is a bit much.  Let me type up the numbers
19:36:36 < jbermudes> really? it felt more like a couple kajillion-bajillion
19:37:01 < nhaines> Okay, while we wait for that, Canonical sent several members of the Ubuntu Kernel Team to SCaLE to do hardware testing for Ubuntu lucid.
19:37:03 < dragon> nhaines: 7 hundred thousand? that's it?
19:37:04 < MarkDude> Scale was very popuylar in general - other Distros ran out of CDs also
19:37:46 < Flannel> This is just total for the two days (not including Ubucon): 355 Ubuntu CDs, 110 Kubuntu, 130 Server, 160 Ubuntu Pins, 115 Ubuntu Pens, 230 Sticker Sheets
19:37:48 < nhaines> I know that in at least three instances when someone came up to me and said "I have this hardware that hasn't worked, will it be fixed in the next version?" I said "Let me walk you to the kernel team and introduce you.  You can check."
19:37:49 < MarkDude> Karsten clarified that via flickr
19:37:55 < akgraner> nhaines, again the cross-promotion you all did telling folks about ubuntu-women, the kernel team doing the hardware testing, and sending people to the Ubuntu User Magazine areas was AWESOME!  I heard nothing but accolades about the booth and everyone in it.
19:38:31 < Flannel> Most of the stuff was given away on Saturday, and then we gave away the remainder on Sunday (Saturday was significantly busier)
19:38:58 < MarkDude> Jeremey & the kernel team answered some qustions on the spot
19:39:01 < nhaines> We've always had a booth policy of being inclusive and informative.  As akgraner mentioned ther were a lot of Ubuntu teams around and plenty of interest to share.
19:39:29 < akk> That kernel testing table was really awesome. I wish I'd known about it beforehand, so I knew to bring my problematic machine.
19:39:42 < nhaines> So it was fun to be able to introduce people to experts in the things they were interested in.
19:39:58 < Flannel> With all the awesomeness aside, did anyone see/notice/hear about anythings that we might be able to improve upon next year?
19:40:01 < nhaines> The Kernel Team was also around outside of the Ubucon room and very popular as I seem to remember.
19:40:23 < rww> In the future, we need to make sure we have ISOs for everything ahead of time, I think.
19:40:23 < akk> Very popular -- they almost never had an open slot, all weekend.
19:40:46 < rww> I said I was going to do that and forgot, so that's totally my fault. But yeah.
19:41:06 < Flannel> We also need to make sure we have flyers/business cards/whatever to hand out with various tidbits and URLs on them as well
19:41:21 < Flannel> We printed some for Sunday (and handed out 20), but they arrived far too late in the game
19:41:42 < nhaines> Yes, I think we should have a couple "Ubuntu tours" planned out for people who want to know what Ubuntu's about, for our demo systems.
19:42:02 < MarkDude> Flannel, do you have my 8.04 edition CD ?
19:42:05 < Flannel> nhaines: tours being walkthrough of stuff on the big screen or whatnot?
19:42:26 < nhaines> Flannel: yup.
19:42:39 < Flannel> MarkDude: I have no idea, did you have one there?  I can go look for it after the meeting.
19:43:11 < rww> One thing that I think would be nice for next time would be putting Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu in a VM on one of the display computers, so we can switch between and compare them easily.
19:43:22 < dragon> I'd say have some QR codes with some URLs handy next year. Smartphones are gaining popularity rapidly.
19:43:31 < rww> I've seen youtube videos of people doing that and switching between them with Compiz, and it looked really useful.
19:43:48 < Flannel> dragon: Sounds good
19:43:50 < nhaines> rww: that's a good idea.
19:44:03 < nhaines> dragon: I love that idea, and that's really easy.
19:44:04 < akk> That is a good idea, the u/x/k comparison thing.
19:44:11 < rww> (possibly also Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, the Netbook editions, etc.)
19:44:16 < Flannel> lubuntu
19:44:23 < rww> We have so many flavours now that we'd run out of machines if we had on on each :)
19:44:33 < Torikun1> and satanic edition =)
19:44:48 < rww> Torikun1: well, I'm thinking approved varients ;P
19:45:14 < dragon> and I've observed that geeks love to scan QR codes only for the sake of scanning them.
19:45:43 < dragon> I've also been thinking about a California edition of Lucid.
19:46:06 < Torikun1> what is going to be special about the CA edition dragon?
19:46:19 < nhaines> dragon: let's discuss that after the meeting, where you can talk about it more in-depth.  :)
19:46:34 < nhaines> Does anyone else have other feedback or thoughts about SCaLE?
19:46:43 < dragon> Torikun1: we could start with a sunny-beach-wallpaper, and see where our imagination takes us.
19:46:46 < dragon> nhaines: roger that
19:46:53 < rww> Nope. I think the booth side of things went really well, I can't think of much I'd improve :)
19:47:03 < jbermudes> we need ubuntu candy!
19:47:07 < Flannel> ah yes.
19:47:13 < Flannel> jbermudes: Have you looked into that yet?
19:47:22 < jbermudes> no, it's not february yet :-p
19:47:26 < Flannel> haha
19:47:27 < Torikun1> Sees Candy: Ubuntu Edition
19:47:29 < jbermudes> I'll look into it for next meeting
19:47:37 < Torikun1> Open Chocolate
19:47:42 < nhaines> hahaha, jbermudes.  :)
19:47:48 < Flannel> jbermudes: It'd be really neat if we could find someone to make it
19:47:48 < rww> You can apparently get customized M&Ms. We could get them in Ubuntu colors :)
19:47:54 < Jamezq12323> hah
19:47:57 < nhaines> I guess we'll need orange candy now.
19:48:00 < Jamezq12323> you mean purple now?
19:48:00 < rww> Red, Orange, and Yellow, or Purple and Orange, depending on who you ask ;P
19:48:01 < Torikun1> rww: customized m&m's are way expensive
19:48:04 < Flannel> rww: I'm thinking more of a hard candy in the ubuntu shape/colors
19:48:09 < MarkDude> rww- chocolate is already brown
19:48:13 < rww> Torikun1: ah, okay. I hadn't looked at the prices.
19:48:25 < akk> Chocolate would be more popular than hard candy. :)
19:48:47 < jbermudes> although seeing how many kids we had taking stickers, their parents probably wouldnt like the idea of a booth giving away that much candy, haha
19:48:55 < Torikun1> lol
19:48:59 < Jamezq12323> yea haha
19:49:01 < Flannel> jbermudes: I think that was the same kids taking stickers over and over, actually.
19:49:02 < MarkDude> I could custom make a candy mold- I am a 3rd generation candle maker- its a similar mold
19:49:05 < Torikun1> FOR HALLOWEEN, GIVE AWAY UBUNTU CANDY AND CD;S!
19:49:11 < Jamezq12323> stickers last longer anyway
19:49:32 < rww> Did anyone have any thoughts about quantities of Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu vs. Server CDs?
19:49:45 < Flannel> rww: What sorts of thoughts?
19:49:47 < nhaines> I thought the interest in Kubuntu CDs was surprising but awesome.
19:49:52 < dragon> Halloween isn't even close. Am I missing something?
19:49:59 < MarkDude> We lacked any netbook quantity
19:50:00 < Flannel> We ran out of Kubuntu, then server, then Ubuntu
19:50:11 < jbermudes> to balance it out, i guess we'll have to give away ubuntu FLOSS to go with the candy... *rimshot*
19:50:15 < Torikun1> any mass ubuntu deployments coming up?
19:50:18 < Jamezq12323> lol
19:50:21 < Flannel> Server was because we weren't rationing it at all on Saturday, since we didn't think we needed to.
19:50:33 < rww> Flannel: Well, there's been some discussion about it on loco-contacts (as you know), but as far as I know the ratios at SCaLE were fine. Was wondering if anyone thought different.
19:50:49 < Flannel> rww: Yeah, I'm going to reply once I get my email back up
19:51:03 < MarkDude> Why did debian take some CDs?
19:51:11 < akk> jbermudes: Heh, I'm amazed no one's done that yet.
19:51:28 < Flannel> MarkDude: Hmm?
19:51:45 < dragon> MarkDude: to deplete our stock?
19:52:02 < MarkDude> Thats what I was told
19:52:14 < akgraner> more ubuntu pics
19:52:42 < nhaines> Oh, I know.  A few other booths came to the Ubuntu booth for technical support while setting up.
19:52:44 < rww> MarkDude: The netbook remix images 1) don't fit on CDs, they're meant for USB sticks 2) would be useless on CD for most netbooks, since they don't have CD drives.
19:52:44 < Flannel> MarkDude: We gave CDs to the KDE and GNOME booths, but not very many
19:53:20 < rww> I made several peoples' USB sticks into netbook remix LiveUSBs at their request, though :)
19:53:26 < akgraner> like pick a time and tell everyone who comes by the booth that at 3pm you will take a group pic or something
19:53:26 < akgraner> and have a massive show of Ubuntu Support by community members and attendees :-)
19:53:34 < nhaines> I was at two booths giving support, and they were very friendly and very appreciative, so that was kinda nice.
19:53:35 < Torikun1> rww: got a good guide for that?
19:54:04 < Torikun1> making a liveUSB
19:54:08 < rww> Torikun1: making LiveUSB images? It's simple. System -> Administration -> USB Startup Disk Creator, point it at the USB stick and ISO file, click the button and you're done.
19:54:23 < Torikun1> ok, I will try that one again, had issues before.
19:54:27 < dragon> akgraner: I'd say couple that photo idea with an hourly raffle..
19:54:34 < rww> Torikun1: the version in Lucid is better than the one in Jaunty
19:54:38 < rww> Torikun1: more reliable, that is
19:54:40 < MarkDude> That would have been cool if I knew when the timing for the photo was. I 'll pretend I was kept in the dark about that by accident <joke>
19:55:19 < jbermudes> also, for anyone stuck on anther OS or need to make one for a different distro, try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
19:55:29 < nhaines> Yes, we didn't get a group pic this year and that was fail.  :(
19:55:33 < jbermudes> it's also smart enough to go download the iso if you dont have it
19:56:06 < MarkDude> jbermudes, it will do nemerous versions & distros
19:56:16 < rww> MarkDude: as far as I know, we didn't do a group photo. We said it would be a good idea above.
19:56:50 < MarkDude> Come on rww- I literally included <joke> in that statement
19:57:14 < Jamezq12323> haha
19:57:23 < nhaines> Okay, well, I think we've about covered the awesomeness that was Ubucon and SCaLE, and I think we're looking forward to doing SCaLE again next year.  :)
19:57:24 < MarkDude> :)
19:57:24 < dragon> Torrents are the preferred way of downloading Ubuntu images.
19:57:40 < Flannel> Anyone have any other comments about SCaLE?
19:58:11 < jbermudes> congrats to yasumoto for wearing so many hats that weekend
19:58:14 < ankur> yeah i would love to contribute in whichever way possible...
19:58:30 < ankur> it was a real eyeopener for me the meeting today...
19:59:03 < Flannel> ankur: We won't have a SCaLE until next Feb, but you're welcome to help out then!  Our next topic is about something sooner though
19:59:09 < nhaines> ankur: stick around--there's plenty of opportunity.  :)
19:59:27 < Flannel> So, our next topic is Lucid's Global Jam.
19:59:36 < Jamezq12323> :)
19:59:54 < Flannel> There's a number of new faces here tonight, so I'll take a moment and describe what a global jam is before we jump into discussion.
20:01:02 < Flannel> A Global Jam is a time where we get together to work on Ubuntu as a team.  Generally, we have a lesson beforehand, so you don't need any prior knowledge to participate.
20:02:22 < Flannel> As an example, if we do a bug jam we'll be doing bug triage, which is a significant portion of fixing bugs.  We'll first sit down and walk through how to triage with examples, and then split off and do work as a 'classroom', so if you have questions you can get them answered immediately/in-person, etc.
20:02:57 < Flannel> It's a way for us to all learn how to contribute in ways we've always wanted to, but have never gotten around to learning how.
20:02:59 < ankur> sure
20:03:12 < Flannel> questions on that part?
20:04:23 < Flannel> So, a Global Jam is when teams from all over the world get together to do Jams, whether they're bug jams, testing jams, upgrade jams, documentation jams, whatever.
20:05:22 < nhaines> It's fun to get together in a room with others to work on Ubuntu stuff, even if some people are doing documentation, some are testing, and some are triaging.
20:05:34 < dragon> does that include Traffic Jam?
20:05:45 < Flannel> dragon: Only in California :)
20:05:48 < rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam has more info on this year's jam and on what they are in general, btw
20:05:54 < dragon> awesome!
20:06:03 < rww> (this year's == the global Ubuntu community's overall plans, not our specific ones)
20:06:38 < Flannel> Actually, Global Jams happen every six months or so (about a month before release seems to be the timeframe)
20:07:15 < Flannel> This next one is the weekend of March 26-28 (we'll pick a day that weekend)
20:07:29 < akk> A month before release? Isn't that too late to get any but the most critical bugs looked at?
20:08:12 < nhaines> It's when the betas are available, so it's the perfect time for lots of polish work.
20:08:22 < Flannel> akk: We don't set the schedule, so it must not be.  This particular one comes right after Beta 1 and before Beta 2
20:08:39 < akk> Weird. They always tell me it's too late when I file bugs that late.
20:08:42 < Flannel> Actually, Beta 1 will be a surge of testers (and filed bugs)
20:09:53 < MarkDude> Anyone in the Bay Area know the Russian or Tagalog , we should be able to translate some
20:10:43 < Flannel> As far as planning is concerned, we'll be discussing and picking topics over the next week or two on the ML
20:11:39 < Flannel> Does anyone have questions or topics or anything right now?
20:12:10 < akk> Any idea yet where these will be?
20:12:30 < Torikun1> MarkDude: maybe if they get money
20:12:37 < nhaines> Southern California Jams tend to be at Chapman University.
20:13:02 < Flannel> akk: No idea yet.  Like nhaines said, we tend to have one at Chapman
20:13:07 < rww> Flannel: topics for bug jams? I've been thinking it'd be nice to have an introduction to how to do user support on the forums/IRC/etc
20:13:20 < MarkDude> Torikun1, nope- no proprietaryness
20:13:32 < rww> "Intro to Triaging" seems to be the canonical Topic For Jams example, would be nice to have "Intro to Supporting"
20:13:48 < Flannel> rww: Sounds interesting, yeah.
20:14:06 < akk> "Intro to Fixing"? :)
20:14:09 < nhaines> rww: I like.  :)
20:14:41 < Flannel> Anyway, if no one has questions about the jam at this time (feel free to ask whenever), I think that about wraps up that topic.
20:14:47 < Flannel> Anyone else have anything else for the meeting?
20:14:57 < Torikun1> May the source be with you
20:15:06 < Jamezq12323> so where will the jams be?
20:15:41 < rww> Flannel: Do we want to get a handle on the when/where stuff now, or at the next meeting?
20:15:55 < rww> or ML would work too, I guess
20:15:59 < Flannel> rww: ML would probably be better
20:16:00 < nhaines> ML should be the place.
20:16:03 < therabi> Is there anything planned for the San Diego area?
20:16:10 < rww> alright
20:16:10 < Flannel> Jamezq12323: The one near you will likely be Chapman, in Orange
20:16:19 < Jamezq12323> `what is ML?
20:16:26 < MarkDude> Mailing list
20:16:33 < Jamezq12323> ahh
20:16:34 < Flannel> Jamezq12323: Mailing List, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
20:17:19 < Flannel> therabi: We tend to head up to Orange, since it's just a little drive
20:17:50 < therabi> Flannel: Thanks.
20:18:01 < Flannel> therabi: Can possibly carpool and stuff, of course.
20:18:09 < Flannel> Any other questions?
20:18:57 < Flannel> Alright, thank you all for coming.
20:19:04 < Flannel> Remember to set your clocks ahead next weekend!
20:19:05 < Flannel> Our next meeting is in two weeks, at 7pm Pacific *Daylight* time, on March 21.