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 1. Ubuntu Global Jams -- [[LaunchpadHome:david.wonderly]] <<DateTime(2011-08-28T15:38:42-0800)>>
 2. Your agenda item here
 1. Moving team meeting information to [[http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california|Loco.Ubuntu.com]] -- [[LaunchpadHome:david.wonderly]] <<DateTime(2011-08-28T15:45:06-0800)>>
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[02:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[02:02] * DarkwingDuck kicks his server out the door
[02:02] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11August28
[02:02] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: you should probably chair since these are your items :)
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> Well, before I added them today, there was no items :)
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, Moving meeting information over to loco.ubuntu
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> IIRC the Community Council along with Ubuntu at large likes using the loco.ubuntu for information.
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> As far as I can tell, it seems like a nice little tool and if people actually go to the page and click "Attend" we can have a count of who is here and who isn't
[02:04] <MarkDude> Like a like or +1 button?
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> I thought there was...
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> Looking at the meeting I have setup for the 11th.
[02:05] <pleia2> we did a trial of this (and still used the wiki too) a few meetings ago: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/120/detail/
[02:05] <pleia2> unfortunately for our past two meetings the loco directory has been completely down due to server problems, so I'm not entirely confident we want to rely upon it exclusively yet :\
[02:06] * DarkwingDuck nods
[02:06] <pleia2> they claim it's fixed, but I'd rather see prolonged evidence of this
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> I'll set it up for the next few meetings and see how it goes.
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone have any issues/problems with this?
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Who is here anyway?
[02:06] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: there is a way to add an agenda item, but not mark yourself as attending
[02:07] <aaditya> o/
[02:07] <MarkDude> \o
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Yes, I say that... Must add a +1 attended button.
[02:07] <eps> "Bother," said Pooh.
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> say/saw
[02:07] <aaditya> Ubuntu's table was the shiniest at the Picnic!
[02:07] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: submit a bug? :)
[02:07] <pleia2> thanks aaditya :)
[02:07] <aaditya> Wait, are we past announcements?
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Or, write the module and submit it :D
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Have not gotten there.
[02:08] <MarkDude> Ubuntu *did* have the nicest looking table
[02:08] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: yeah, you do that
[02:08] <MarkDude> It most certainly rocked
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Why is server installing -generic-pae and not -server???????
[02:08] <pleia2> I like the idea of trying to use the loco directory for meetings, alongside the wiki for a couple months
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Sorry
[02:08] <pleia2> see how it goes
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, I have setup for the 11th then.
[02:09] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: should probably set yourself as chair though, that's solano stroll day and that's until 6PM
[02:09] <eps> I think it's too much trouble / making extra work for little to no benefit / confusing for attendees
[02:09] <pleia2> not sure jdeslip and I will be home in time
[02:09] <pleia2> eps: the wiki is easier?
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/196/detail/
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> When/if the wiki is working
[02:09] <pleia2> eps: a lot of people can't even log into the wiki :(
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> I like loco. because of the tracking value. :D
[02:10] * DarkwingDuck is a sucker for stats and tracking
[02:10] <eps> The wiki is a "must run" service. The loco directory is not.
[02:10] <pleia2> "must run"?
[02:10] <DarkwingDuck> ...
[02:10] * DarkwingDuck is confused.
[02:10] <eps> Ubuntu's reputation depends on the wiki working. Nobody cares about the poor little locos.
[02:11] <pleia2> eps: they are run by the same server admins and are both very valuable resources, the wiki is down more often than the loco directory
[02:11] <pleia2> I mean, now that the wiki has been upgraded it has improved, but it was really horrible stability wise for almost a year
[02:11] <pleia2> so I don't really understand how you can say "Ubuntu's reputation depends on it" - it didn't this year :)
[02:12] <eps> The wiki is the public face of Ubuntu. loco is the other end of the beast.
[02:12] <DarkwingDuck> I still get massive errors trying to save to the wiki
[02:12] <DarkwingDuck> but, I digress...
[02:12] <pleia2> a lot of people have trouble with wiki syntax too, loco directory you just click "add agenda item" and don't need to worry about formatting or edit conflicts
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Anything else on the l.u.c?
[02:13] <eps> Did it ever occur to you that some people consider tracking a negative?
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> How?
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Tracking our events, meetings and everything is key to understanding out exposure
[02:13] <pleia2> eps: we have to have our meetings be public
[02:13] <pleia2> they are tracked already, that is not changing
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> It's just the work put into the tracking :)
[02:14] <pleia2> yeah, work done by me
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I should start doing more along that line Lys sorry :.
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> :/
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> *Lyz
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> dang, I can't type tonight.
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, next item...
[02:15] <DarkwingDuck> I am please to be hosting a Global Jam here in San Diego
[02:15] <pleia2> woohoo san diego
[02:15] <DarkwingDuck> It will be in the evening of the 3rd.
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1198/detail/
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> IT will be at Cafe Libertalia
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> We will be doing Upgrading and Testing at the Jam.
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> Assuming that I can get my server back online...
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> We will have a local mirror so we don't gunk up the bandwidth.
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> We will also have something online.
[02:17] <pleia2> cool
[02:18] <DarkwingDuck> So, we get a Jam. :)
[02:18] <DarkwingDuck> Any questions/comments?
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, Announcements?
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> aaditya, Did you have something?
[02:19] <pleia2> the linux picnic was awesome!
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Woot!
[02:19] <pleia2> I uploaded photos of our table to our flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca/sets/72157627534061734/
[02:20] <pleia2> and blogged about it here: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4949
[02:20] <MarkDude> Generations henceforth shall speak of the glorious picnic
[02:20] <pleia2> fedora had a table this year too :) they had streamers and balloons and OLPCs
[02:20] <pleia2> fedora: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6087641260/
[02:21] <MarkDude> Well fedora was more trying to buy folks love
[02:21] <pleia2> people do love those little green laptops
[02:21] <MarkDude> Ubuntu had genuine awesomeness at the table
[02:21] <aaditya> DarkwingDuck: just the picnic, that's all!
[02:21] <MarkDude> I liked the animals
[02:21] <pleia2> :)
[02:21] <pleia2> Solano Stroll is coming up on September 11th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/SolanoStroll2011
[02:21] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, another note...
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome!
[02:22] <pleia2> jdeslip and I have started getting our "need stuff" lists together
[02:22] <pleia2> oops, one error on that page, fixing
[02:22] <pleia2> proper loco directory link is http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1208/detail/
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> San Diego, starting the 20th will be holding b-monthly Ubuntu Hours.
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> *bi-monthly
[02:23] <MarkDude> Oh, let it be noted I got those streamers from the Win7 party from along time ago. Nothing like taking sumthin' from the machine- to change the machine
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> Twice a month rather
[02:23] <pleia2> cool
[02:24] <eps> How many cookies does that recipe yield?
[02:24] <pleia2> eps: "These recipes made about two dozen Android cookies, I doubled the recipe to get the four dozen I brought to the picnic."
[02:25] <pleia2> any other announcements?
[02:25] <DarkwingDuck> Any comments/concerns?
[02:25] <pleia2> oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek is coming up Sept 5-9
[02:26] <pleia2> that's over in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, and for those Kubuntu/KDE users out there...
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'll be hosting a Bug Jam and a Doc Jam online
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'll announce those on the ML
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> When I hash out the timing.
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway, if there is nothing else...
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> Thank you all for attending.
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> #endmeeting
}}}

Sunday, August 28th, 2011, 7:00pm (1900) PT

Agenda

  1. Moving team meeting information to Loco.Ubuntu.com -- david.wonderly 2011-08-28 23:45:06

  2. Ubuntu Global Jams -- david.wonderly 2011-08-28 23:38:42

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   1 [02:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
   2 [02:02]  * DarkwingDuck kicks his server out the door
   3 [02:02] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11August28
   4 [02:02] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: you should probably chair since these are your items :)
   5 [02:03] <DarkwingDuck> Well, before I added them today, there was no items :)
   6 [02:03] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, Moving meeting information over to loco.ubuntu
   7 [02:03] <DarkwingDuck> IIRC the Community Council along with Ubuntu at large likes using the loco.ubuntu for information.
   8 [02:04] <DarkwingDuck> As far as I can tell, it seems like a nice little tool and if people actually go to the page and click "Attend" we can have a count of who is here and who isn't
   9 [02:04] <MarkDude> Like a like or +1 button?
  10 [02:05] <DarkwingDuck> I thought there was...
  11 [02:05] <DarkwingDuck> Looking at the meeting I have setup for the 11th.
  12 [02:05] <pleia2> we did a trial of this (and still used the wiki too) a few meetings ago: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/120/detail/
  13 [02:05] <pleia2> unfortunately for our past two meetings the loco directory has been completely down due to server problems, so I'm not entirely confident we want to rely upon it exclusively yet :\
  14 [02:06]  * DarkwingDuck nods
  15 [02:06] <pleia2> they claim it's fixed, but I'd rather see prolonged evidence of this
  16 [02:06] <DarkwingDuck> I'll set it up for the next few meetings and see how it goes.
  17 [02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone have any issues/problems with this?
  18 [02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Who is here anyway?
  19 [02:06] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: there is a way to add an agenda item, but not mark yourself as attending
  20 [02:07] <aaditya> o/
  21 [02:07] <MarkDude> \o
  22 [02:07] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Yes, I say that... Must add a +1 attended button.
  23 [02:07] <eps> "Bother," said Pooh.
  24 [02:07] <DarkwingDuck> say/saw
  25 [02:07] <aaditya> Ubuntu's table was the shiniest at the Picnic!
  26 [02:07] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: submit a bug? :)
  27 [02:07] <pleia2> thanks aaditya :)
  28 [02:07] <aaditya> Wait, are we past announcements?
  29 [02:07] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Or, write the module and submit it :D
  30 [02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Have not gotten there.
  31 [02:08] <MarkDude> Ubuntu *did* have the nicest looking table
  32 [02:08] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: yeah, you do that
  33 [02:08] <MarkDude> It most certainly rocked
  34 [02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Why is server installing -generic-pae and not -server???????
  35 [02:08] <pleia2> I like the idea of trying to use the loco directory for meetings, alongside the wiki for a couple months
  36 [02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Sorry
  37 [02:08] <pleia2> see how it goes
  38 [02:09] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, I have setup for the 11th then.
  39 [02:09] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: should probably set yourself as chair though, that's solano stroll day and that's until 6PM
  40 [02:09] <eps> I think it's too much trouble / making extra work for little to no benefit / confusing for attendees
  41 [02:09] <pleia2> not sure jdeslip and I will be home in time
  42 [02:09] <pleia2> eps: the wiki is easier?
  43 [02:09] <DarkwingDuck> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/196/detail/
  44 [02:09] <DarkwingDuck> When/if the wiki is working
  45 [02:09] <pleia2> eps: a lot of people can't even log into the wiki :(
  46 [02:09] <DarkwingDuck> I like loco. because of the tracking value. :D
  47 [02:10]  * DarkwingDuck is a sucker for stats and tracking
  48 [02:10] <eps> The wiki is a "must run" service. The loco directory is not.
  49 [02:10] <pleia2> "must run"?
  50 [02:10] <DarkwingDuck> ...
  51 [02:10]  * DarkwingDuck is confused.
  52 [02:10] <eps> Ubuntu's reputation depends on the wiki working. Nobody cares about the poor little locos.
  53 [02:11] <pleia2> eps: they are run by the same server admins and are both very valuable resources, the wiki is down more often than the loco directory
  54 [02:11] <pleia2> I mean, now that the wiki has been upgraded it has improved, but it was really horrible stability wise for almost a year
  55 [02:11] <pleia2> so I don't really understand how you can say "Ubuntu's reputation depends on it" - it didn't this year :)
  56 [02:12] <eps> The wiki is the public face of Ubuntu. loco is the other end of the beast.
  57 [02:12] <DarkwingDuck> I still get massive errors trying to save to the wiki
  58 [02:12] <DarkwingDuck> but, I digress...
  59 [02:12] <pleia2> a lot of people have trouble with wiki syntax too, loco directory you just click "add agenda item" and don't need to worry about formatting or edit conflicts
  60 [02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Anything else on the l.u.c?
  61 [02:13] <eps> Did it ever occur to you that some people consider tracking a negative?
  62 [02:13] <DarkwingDuck> How?
  63 [02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Tracking our events, meetings and everything is key to understanding out exposure
  64 [02:13] <pleia2> eps: we have to have our meetings be public
  65 [02:13] <pleia2> they are tracked already, that is not changing
  66 [02:14] <DarkwingDuck> It's just the work put into the tracking :)
  67 [02:14] <pleia2> yeah, work done by me
  68 [02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I should start doing more along that line Lys sorry :.
  69 [02:14] <DarkwingDuck> :/
  70 [02:14] <DarkwingDuck> *Lyz
  71 [02:14] <DarkwingDuck> dang, I can't type tonight.
  72 [02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, next item...
  73 [02:15] <DarkwingDuck> I am please to be hosting a Global Jam here in San Diego
  74 [02:15] <pleia2> woohoo san diego
  75 [02:15] <DarkwingDuck> It will be in the evening of the 3rd.
  76 [02:16] <DarkwingDuck> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1198/detail/
  77 [02:16] <DarkwingDuck> IT will be at Cafe Libertalia
  78 [02:16] <DarkwingDuck> We will be doing Upgrading and Testing at the Jam.
  79 [02:17] <DarkwingDuck> Assuming that I can get my server back online...
  80 [02:17] <DarkwingDuck> We will have a local mirror so we don't gunk up the bandwidth.
  81 [02:17] <DarkwingDuck> We will also have something online.
  82 [02:17] <pleia2> cool
  83 [02:18] <DarkwingDuck> So, we get a Jam. :)
  84 [02:18] <DarkwingDuck> Any questions/comments?
  85 [02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, Announcements?
  86 [02:19] <DarkwingDuck> aaditya, Did you have something?
  87 [02:19] <pleia2> the linux picnic was awesome!
  88 [02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Woot!
  89 [02:19] <pleia2> I uploaded photos of our table to our flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca/sets/72157627534061734/
  90 [02:20] <pleia2> and blogged about it here: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4949
  91 [02:20] <MarkDude> Generations henceforth shall speak of the glorious picnic
  92 [02:20] <pleia2> fedora had a table this year too :) they had streamers and balloons and OLPCs
  93 [02:20] <pleia2> fedora: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6087641260/
  94 [02:21] <MarkDude> Well fedora was more trying to buy folks love
  95 [02:21] <pleia2> people do love those little green laptops
  96 [02:21] <MarkDude> Ubuntu had genuine awesomeness at the table
  97 [02:21] <aaditya> DarkwingDuck: just the picnic, that's all!
  98 [02:21] <MarkDude> I liked the animals
  99 [02:21] <pleia2> :)
 100 [02:21] <pleia2> Solano Stroll is coming up on September 11th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/SolanoStroll2011
 101 [02:21] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, another note...
 102 [02:22] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome!
 103 [02:22] <pleia2> jdeslip and I have started getting our "need stuff" lists together
 104 [02:22] <pleia2> oops, one error on that page, fixing
 105 [02:22] <pleia2> proper loco directory link is http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1208/detail/
 106 [02:22] <DarkwingDuck> San Diego, starting the 20th will be holding b-monthly Ubuntu Hours.
 107 [02:23] <DarkwingDuck> *bi-monthly
 108 [02:23] <MarkDude> Oh, let it be noted I got those streamers from the Win7 party from along time ago. Nothing like taking sumthin' from the machine- to change the machine
 109 [02:23] <DarkwingDuck> Twice a month rather
 110 [02:23] <pleia2> cool
 111 [02:24] <eps> How many cookies does that recipe yield?
 112 [02:24] <pleia2> eps: "These recipes made about two dozen Android cookies, I doubled the recipe to get the four dozen I brought to the picnic."
 113 [02:25] <pleia2> any other announcements?
 114 [02:25] <DarkwingDuck> Any comments/concerns?
 115 [02:25] <pleia2> oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek is coming up Sept 5-9
 116 [02:26] <pleia2> that's over in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
 117 [02:26] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, and for those Kubuntu/KDE users out there...
 118 [02:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'll be hosting a Bug Jam and a Doc Jam online
 119 [02:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'll announce those on the ML
 120 [02:27] <DarkwingDuck> When I hash out the timing.
 121 [02:27] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway, if there is nothing else...
 122 [02:27] <DarkwingDuck> Thank you all for attending.
 123 [02:27] <DarkwingDuck> #endmeeting

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