== Sunday, March 10th, 2013, 7:00pm (1900) PT ==

=== Agenda ===

 1. SCaLE11x summary

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[02:01] <pleia2> ok, who all is here for the meeting? :)
[02:01] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13March10
[02:01] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13March10 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:01] <pleia2> agenda ^^
[02:01]  * eps waves
[02:02] <pleia2> #topic SCaLE11x summary
[02:02] <grantbow> o/
[02:02] <grantbow> scale was well done!
[02:03] <pleia2> so first we had Ubucon on Friday, Richard Gaskin did a great job with that
[02:03] <pleia2> then the booth!
[02:04] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/8507370683/in/set-72157632856093439
[02:04] <darthrobot> Title: [IMG_0169 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]
[02:05] <pleia2> it looked nice, I didn't help with anything but setup ;)
[02:06] <pleia2> eps: any comments, as a volunteer?
[02:06] <eps> We needed more DVDs to hand out.
[02:07]  * pleia2 nods
[02:07] <pleia2> that should be organized earlier next year, sending a last minute note to the list to see if anyone could burn them was not optimal
[02:07]  * grantbow nods
[02:08] <bkerensa> On the DVD front I want to mention LoCo's might have more resources soon.... mhall119's is proposing some more resources including DVD's/Swag and Funds for LoCo's
[02:08] <pleia2> bkerensa: that would be great :)
[02:09] <pleia2> we did get 150 DVDs specifically for this conferences, but it really isn't enough for a 2k person conference
[02:09] <bkerensa> nope
[02:09] <grantbow> what's a good ratio?
[02:09] <pleia2> we've typically given out 300-400 at scale
[02:09] <eps> We kind of got blindsided by the "best swag" contest -- apparently they only decided to do it about three days before.
[02:09] <grantbow> and it's getting bigger
[02:09] <pleia2> so 1 disk per 5 attendees?
[02:10] <bkerensa> I believe they are thinking of follow Mozilla Reps ratio for swag.... So if you had 2k people they would try and reach at least 50% of attendees with resources
[02:10] <pleia2> eps: as a not-company, it will always be hard for us to compete there
[02:10] <bkerensa> so 1000 CD's
[02:10] <pleia2> bkerensa: yeah, that would be much better
[02:11] <grantbow> a USB copy station might help too
[02:11] <bkerensa> this is of course all subject to Jono's +1 -> Rick Spencer (??) -> Jane?
[02:11] <grantbow> a la... what's that software name again?
[02:11] <eps> Of the half dozen or so other direct competitors, only Fedora was in our league.
[02:12] <eps> We did OK.
[02:13] <eps> Remember 'Buntu Stand? :-)
[02:13] <pleia2> :)
[02:14] <eps> I like the idea of create on demand, because that would let us provide Kubuntu, etc. if people want it.
[02:14] <pleia2> yeah, that would be nice
[02:14] <grantbow> buntu stand!
[02:15] <grantbow> I was looking but can't find the branch right now
[02:15] <grantbow> https://launchpad.net/buntustand
[02:15] <grantbow> there
[02:15] <darthrobot> Title: ['Buntu Stand in Launchpad]
[02:15] <grantbow> I was doing something similar with Toaster for the olpcsf.org with XO-1's
[02:16] <grantbow> similar in a broad sense
[02:16] <grantbow> give stuff to people with self-serve machines
[02:16] <grantbow> buntu stand was mostly for burning CDs in a distributed way as I recall
[02:17] <grantbow> for the XOs I was trying to do bootable usb sticks but ran into security issues during implementation
[02:17] <grantbow> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Toaster
[02:17] <darthrobot> [403] Title: [Error reading title]
[02:17]  * pleia2 gives darthrobot a cookie
[02:18] <pleia2> grantbow: is that where the project stans now?
[02:18] <pleia2> stands
[02:18] <pleia2> now that I'm better at python it may be something I'm intersted in
[02:18] <grantbow> it should be easier to give away free software using free software
[02:18] <grantbow> stalled
[02:18] <pleia2> (I don't have an XO, but I'm sure there are plenty floating around for borrowing :))
[02:19] <grantbow> join the email list and I'll write a summary there soon
[02:19] <grantbow> it's kind of off-topic
[02:19] <grantbow> will buntu stand work with DVDs?
[02:20] <pleia2> presumably with the right hardware it would be fine
[02:21] <tedski> aren't usb sticks more usable these days?
[02:21] <tedski> oh, and, hi :)
[02:21] <pleia2> tedski: unfortunately we don't have the budget to give everyone usb sticks
[02:21] <grantbow> I think so, especially with grub2. http://rww.name/articles/grub2iso/
[02:21] <darthrobot> Title: [Booting ISOs from GRUB 2]
[02:21] <grantbow> hi tedski
[02:21] <tedski> i'd think a touch screen kiosk where they could insert their own usb stick
[02:22] <grantbow> sounds good, want to help? :-)
[02:22] <tedski> i'm brainstorming right now
[02:22] <pleia2> our budget is $0, plus what volunteers can provide :)
[02:22] <tedski> :)
[02:22] <eps> CD/DVD media are inexpensive enough to give away
[02:22] <tedski> what's the need-by date?
[02:22] <tedski> i don't even know what event we're talking about
[02:22] <pleia2> 2014
[02:22] <grantbow> scale12x?
[02:22] <pleia2> yeah
[02:23] <pleia2> in los angeles
[02:23] <eps> Or release parties, or the Linux Picnic (if there is one).
[02:24] <pleia2> I haven't heard anything from linux picnic folks, usually they need to book by now
[02:24] <pleia2> I fear it's dead again
[02:24] <grantbow> we were talking about scale11x which just finished
[02:24] <eps> Or Software Freedom Day.
[02:24] <pleia2> yeah, it would be nice to have it for all these things, so i guess there isn't really a need-by date
[02:24] <grantbow> the idea for toaster was born during an SFD
[02:24] <pleia2> :)
[02:25] <pleia2> alright, well I think we pretty much covered scale11x then
[02:25] <tedski> so, i guess the happy medium is to have the kiosk offer to dd to your flash drive or spit out a free cd
[02:25] <eps> The point being that the effort would be worth the time investment.
[02:25] <grantbow> SFD is Sept 21st. http://softwarefreedomday.org/
[02:25] <darthrobot> Title: [Software Freedom Day - SFD Home]
[02:26] <pleia2> tedski: yeah, that would be nice, it would probably be driven by a laptop though
[02:26] <pleia2> so kind of poor mans kiosk (since we're poor :))
[02:26] <grantbow> grub2 booting allows for multiple images on a single flash drive but is more complicated
[02:26] <grantbow> and doesn't always work on some hardware
[02:26] <pleia2> yeah
[02:26] <tedski> pleia2: i was just thinking it'd be a good re-use of my old netbook with a usb burner and a laser cut case
[02:26] <grantbow> or a tablet
[02:27] <pleia2> tedski: yeah, totally!
[02:27] <eps> Reliability is important.
[02:27] <pleia2> grantbow: with usb and dvd?
[02:27] <tedski> so, we're still in the budget
[02:27] <grantbow> usb unless you have a usb dvd to burn with
[02:27] <pleia2> I thought about tablet because it's touchable, but not sure how to burn a dvd from them (or plug in a usb stick)
[02:27] <pleia2> since they lack ports for such things
[02:28] <grantbow> true
[02:28] <grantbow> so laptop it is
[02:28] <pleia2> can someone take an action item to continue this discussion on list? (and tedski - are you on the mailing list? :))
[02:28] <eps> Would a PXE boot server be useful?
[02:29] <tedski> i am not on the mailing list... let me remedy that
[02:29] <grantbow> shiva plug maybe
[02:29] <tedski> but, i will definitely donate the aspire one
[02:29] <tedski> and possibly a touchscreen for it
[02:29] <grantbow> we are getting closer to the "in-a-box" proposals for install servers and/or LUG servers I've discussed with Rick in the past
[02:30] <grantbow> and that we've discussed for partimus.org a little
[02:30] <pleia2> so a little bird told me that buntustand can support having a front end, so a tablet could presumably be used as that, the back end would be the laptop you plug stuff into
[02:30] <grantbow> nice
[02:30] <pleia2> this is sounding pretty spiffy, I'm excited :)
[02:31] <tedski> time to make dinner
[02:31]  * tedski &
[02:31]  * grantbow waves
[02:31] <pleia2> #action pleia2 to bring buntustand discussion to list
[02:31] <darthrobot> ACTION: pleia2 to bring buntustand discussion to list
[02:31] <pleia2> so, thanks to everyone who helped at scale11x :)
[02:32] <grantbow> +1
[02:32] <pleia2> I'm glad I didn't have to do much ;)
[02:32] <pleia2> I was quite sick that weekend
[02:32] <eps> Special thanks to nhaines
[02:33] <grantbow> +1 - great phone demos
[02:33] <pleia2> oh yes, he sacrificed his phone for the weekend!
[02:33] <pleia2> people really loved being able to see it, with all the buzz that had been around over it
[02:35] <pleia2> #topic other business
[02:35] <pleia2> so, we use posterous for cross-posting to twitter, identica and facebook page
[02:36] <pleia2> 1. it's been unreliable lately - I sent 2 posts recently and totally didn't pay attention to the fact that they didn't actually post :(
[02:36] <pleia2> 2. it's going away april 30th anyway
[02:36] <pleia2> any social media gurus have recommendations?
[02:36] <pleia2> the facebook page thing may be impossible, posterous is the only service If ound that could cross-post to pages (personal accounts are easy)
[02:37] <bkerensa> WordPress can cross post
[02:37] <pleia2> to facebook pages too?
[02:37] <bkerensa> yes
[02:37] <pleia2> sweet
[02:37] <pleia2> it may be good to have an us-controlled version of this anyway
[02:37] <bkerensa> It should be in the Jetpack plugin "Socialize" or something they call it
[02:38] <pleia2> ok cool, I'll give you a nudge later this week if I have questions
[02:38] <pleia2> thank you!
[02:38] <bkerensa> k
[02:38] <pleia2> #action pleia2 to look into WP plugin for social media crossposting
[02:38] <darthrobot> ACTION: pleia2 to look into WP plugin for social media crossposting
[02:39] <pleia2> SF Ubuntu Hour coming up on Wednesday
[02:40] <pleia2> I'm not running the debian dinner, but it's just a BART ride away at 7:30: http://bad.debian.net/list/2013-March/003537.html
[02:40] <darthrobot> Title: [ANNOUNCEMENT: B.A.D. Meeting For March 2013]
[02:40] <pleia2> so I'll probably go to that, anyone is welcome to tag along (or just go to that ;))
[02:41] <grantbow> because every Ubuntu user is a Debian user ;-)
[02:41] <pleia2> hooray for Debian!
[02:41] <pleia2> anyone else have anything before we wrap up?
[02:42] <grantbow> who attended the UDS last week?
[02:42] <grantbow> first online one
[02:42]  * eps did
[02:44] <eps> Much as I wasn't thrilled by the 6 a.m. start time, it was way better than Budapest.
[02:45] <grantbow> anyone else have anything before we wrap up?
[02:45] <pleia2> hopefully the UDS in May-ish will be better attended since we can plan accordingly
[02:45] <pleia2> (of course I'll be out of the country)
[02:46] <pleia2> ok, thanks everyone for coming :)
[02:46] <grantbow> pleia2: thanks for chairing
[02:47] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:47] <darthrobot> Meeting 
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